The key to success in trading is to be patient. Yes, when we have bought a coin and until today the price is not maximal or even minus, I think we should be patient, and always remember everything has a time, I think the bull run in this year will be a bit late, but it's certain that the time we hope will come too. And see now all the markets are green, BTC or altcoin, when it's good to play our techniques and predictions, you should hold your altcoin that you already have.
Well, if he asks for advice on the best altcoin, I think he can see the top coins in Coinmarketcap. however, currently having bitcoin or altcoin is quite beneficial. if in the future altcoin does not rise, then it could be a dead-end for the holder. because of this, I suggest holding coins that have great potential, especially coins that are above 10 coin marketcap.
Topic: If Altcoins Won't Moon Can't I Just Short the Hell Outta Them??? (Read 693 times)
January 17, 2020, 08:08:40 AM
The key to success in trading is to be patient. Yes, when we have bought a coin and until today the price is not maximal or even minus, I think we should be patient, and always remember everything has a time, I think the bull run in this year will be a bit late, but it's certain that the time we hope will come too. And see now all the markets are green, BTC or altcoin, when it's good to play our techniques and predictions, you should hold your altcoin that you already have.
Well, if he asks for advice on the best altcoin, I think he can see the top coins in Coinmarketcap. however, currently having bitcoin or altcoin is quite beneficial. if in the future altcoin does not rise, then it could be a dead-end for the holder. because of this, I suggest holding coins that have great potential, especially coins that are above 10 coin marketcap. January 16, 2020, 07:36:21 AM
Short is one of strategy to get profit. I think, it is good if you can do that
You have to understand risk management well before doing short trading. Bcz it is very risky
If you dont have good money management, you will possible to lose all of your money
You have to understand risk management well before doing short trading. Bcz it is very risky
If you dont have good money management, you will possible to lose all of your money
January 16, 2020, 07:21:18 AM
The fastest way to loose your money is to short in a changing market sentiment, where you end up basically betting against the market.
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January 16, 2020, 05:59:31 AM
You can short lots of altcoin at Gate exchange, you have try this exchange and they have fast withdraw/deposit system. But i guess that short altcoin at this point might be dangerous because altcoin been push into the dip for too long and its can pop anytime.
January 15, 2020, 08:54:53 AM
It looks more like new altcoin season is getting more nearer, why don't you just hold on or sell some of your altcoins for bitcoin? The way i see things now i thing altcoins will be back very soon, what you need more now is patience
January 15, 2020, 07:44:52 AM
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Any ideas guys?
Any ideas guys?
It is up to you. No matter what your decision is, we won't be affected but I wanted to say one thing. Are you good even though you are selling your altcoin at a loss? If yes then go on, but if you are half-hearted then give it another year or wait for Bitcoin to finish its rally. Then probably by that time altcoin season will occur.
I guess I will just sit on a stash of alts until they gain new all-time highs, otherwise, this would have been a total waste of time. And mind you I did research them and thought they'd be credible and perhaps contribute substantially to the crypto space.
January 15, 2020, 03:41:07 AM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
I have not yet went through any such platform which allows you to short a number of altcoins. I am using Binance Leverage trading platform but even it only allows us to short few coin. You can try shorting them on exchanges where you see you could make profits. It is better to perform short term trading even in the bearish markets so that we could at least earn few bucks rather than waiting for the coin to pump.Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
I am performing short term trades for few coins which are on the bearish side and they are giving me profits but I need to keep watching the price graphs continuously and find smaller gaps to quickly buy and less. All my hopes are on the bull markets which should really arrive soon.
January 15, 2020, 01:39:17 AM
OP wait for a months, i think for altcoins, not all altcoins only bigger one maybe still worth to wait. And the others, don't waste your time, when you see it is profit, or when you lose, as long you can get your capital back, then out from that coin. For me now i change only to big coins in coinmarketcap and hold it.
Holding some of the major coins is always good for the sake of our future but what about our present? We do need to find some source to make us land up in profits even in our present situation and in such situation those coins might be useful if you have deep knowledge about how to trade them.Holding most of the higher position coins might be useful but only for long term. It is better if we try to short them for short term so that we can gain some profit. And also I agree with you that we might sell our coins who are on a descending graph and also if their volume decreases. We should immediately sell those coins even if they are at the price we bought them because chances of such coins having a dump in the market is larger which might not at all give us benefits.
January 14, 2020, 04:51:07 PM
If you think that what you hold right now is not worth it for you, you can sell it right now, but you don't have to be sad if you see the coin that you held before start to increase. We can only suggest you hold for more because you already do that from a few years ago, and that will not be a problem if you hold for longer. I am sure in the end, and you will see your profit will come to you, and you will have a chance to recover your losses. But that is up to you, and we cannot force you to follow our suggestion.
He's not talking about selling. He's talking about shorting.
I personally think that shorting is a very dumb idea right now, unless you genuine think that the markets will somehow stay put for a long while under $9k (in which case, you can get interest payments from the long position holders on platforms such as Deribit and Bitmex), or it will decrease significantly from this current level (unlikely).
Plus, your leveraged positions can go south very easily since every loss is magnified. In this volatile market I'd recommend against it.
January 14, 2020, 04:11:18 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Holding altcoins has to do with a lot of patience. In fact, ever since I started crypto, holding has never worked for me. All my alts end up bleeding to death. I began to realise that these alts have their own season. And only the patient enjoys this season.
January 14, 2020, 10:56:14 AM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
It is up to you. No matter what your decision is, we won't be affected but I wanted to say one thing. Are you good even though you are selling your altcoin at a loss? If yes then go on, but if you are half-hearted then give it another year or wait for Bitcoin to finish its rally. Then probably by that time altcoin season will occur.
January 14, 2020, 10:51:32 AM
You have been holding altcoin long since the bear market started and you have not cut a loss. And now the altcoin price has bottomed out and your mind wants to give up all because of your depression. Try to hold them for a few more months, The market is going up and certainly this year altcoins will be pumped. I'm not sure the price will go as high as 2017 but at least it will be many times higher than it is now. Be patient and wait a while longer
January 14, 2020, 10:02:39 AM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
It seems that you have already get into the limit of your patience into holding your assets for a long time around. Well, I cannot blame you for having a mindset like that because it seems that you have already a hard time on keep on holding into your assets. We all have different views into the different behavior the market is showing us so we also do have different approach on how we will handle the situation. Well, if you have already decided on what to do with you assets, still the decision will be up into you since you have the right to do such. But if you will just be sorting out those unworthy coins, those that are not good for long term holding from those that have potential and leaving them for good, it will be a good move so sell out your undervalued or unworthy coins to use the to purchase more potential Altcoins. When it comes to leverage, I haven't been into such because holding still takes effect on me. It just take some time and patience and I have strong belief into my assets so I do not worry because for me good things come in perfect time.
January 14, 2020, 06:51:01 AM
OP wait for a months, i think for altcoins, not all altcoins only bigger one maybe still worth to wait. And the others, don't waste your time, when you see it is profit, or when you lose, as long you can get your capital back, then out from that coin. For me now i change only to big coins in coinmarketcap and hold it.
Holding some of the major coins is always good for the sake of our future but what about our present? We do need to find some source to make us land up in profits even in our present situation and in such situation those coins might be useful if you have deep knowledge about how to trade them.Holding most of the higher position coins might be useful but only for long term. It is better if we try to short them for short term so that we can gain some profit. And also I agree with you that we might sell our coins who are on a descending graph and also if their volume decreases. We should immediately sell those coins even if they are at the price we bought them because chances of such coins having a dump in the market is larger which might not at all give us benefits.
January 14, 2020, 05:52:28 AM
If you think that what you hold right now is not worth it for you, you can sell it right now, but you don't have to be sad if you see the coin that you held before start to increase. We can only suggest you hold for more because you already do that from a few years ago, and that will not be a problem if you hold for longer. I am sure in the end, and you will see your profit will come to you, and you will have a chance to recover your losses. But that is up to you, and we cannot force you to follow our suggestion.
January 14, 2020, 05:46:02 AM
Everyone will feel sorry after seeing the value of their assets drop dramatically, but I personally will continue to hold the coins that I bought in 2018 ago, Because I'm sure the Altcoin season will definitely come soon after this year's Halving is over.
Same thing people said in 2018, and in 2019,,, but just because it has been a long wait does not mean the time for a bull run will come closer. If you think about it, altcoin season is not an altcoin season but a one-time altcoin boom. If it comes again anyway, there is no way alts will 1000x like the did in 2017!
January 14, 2020, 02:27:00 AM
If you look for centralized, then there are many options here
Major big exchanges have that feature, Binance, Bitmex, Bitfinex, etc
For decentralized one, I never know it. Even I ever read that smart contract cant do leverage.
I read here : https://cointelegraph.com/explained/dex-explained/amp
Major big exchanges have that feature, Binance, Bitmex, Bitfinex, etc
For decentralized one, I never know it. Even I ever read that smart contract cant do leverage.
I read here : https://cointelegraph.com/explained/dex-explained/amp
January 14, 2020, 01:41:33 AM
OP wait for a months, i think for altcoins, not all altcoins only bigger one maybe still worth to wait. And the others, don't waste your time, when you see it is profit, or when you lose, as long you can get your capital back, then out from that coin. For me now i change only to big coins in coinmarketcap and hold it.
Months are nothing for holding, he need to wait for years and only then to come up with this statement. Few months in business
world are too short for big changes that most of us here expect.
I wouldn't sell now, from June until now Bitcoin dropped, like all other coins, most of them had their top price in June, for 2019 I mean.
Prices will go have higher top in 2020 than in 2019, I believe that, we need to wait for the middle of this year before we make any
decisions for shorting and selling.
January 14, 2020, 01:04:31 AM
The key to success in trading is to be patient. Yes, when we have bought a coin and until today the price is not maximal or even minus, I think we should be patient, and always remember everything has a time, I think the bull run in this year will be a bit late, but it's certain that the time we hope will come too. And see now all the markets are green, BTC or altcoin, when it's good to play our techniques and predictions, you should hold your altcoin that you already have.
Well, if he asks for advice on the best altcoin, I think he can see the top coins in Coinmarketcap. however, currently having bitcoin or altcoin is quite beneficial. if in the future altcoin does not rise, then it could be a dead-end for the holder. because of this, I suggest holding coins that have great potential, especially coins that are above 10 coin marketcap. January 14, 2020, 12:37:13 AM
OP wait for a months, i think for altcoins, not all altcoins only bigger one maybe still worth to wait. And the others, don't waste your time, when you see it is profit, or when you lose, as long you can get your capital back, then out from that coin. For me now i change only to big coins in coinmarketcap and hold it.
January 14, 2020, 12:06:24 AM
I don't know any website like you need, butaybe if you search more you can find one, but make sure is a legit one and not a scam so you lose all coins, i also hold the altcoins i have but still not have any sign that will grow and i will hold for more who know, if i sell now i will how really low amount for all of them.
January 14, 2020, 12:01:47 AM
First of all there is a small number of alt coins that you can short. They usually are in the top 25 or so in the coinmarketcap list. You can't short those small cap coins which are sittin at -99.99% losses from the ATH peak of Q1 2018.
Also you need to be careful shorting. There was an individual that decided to short DASH at around $100 early 2017. The price was basically around $5 the year prior and it had major resistance at $15 that it broke, so he figured it might go to $150 or $200 or $250 max before heading back to $15. And basically he ended up emptying his entire Poloniex account due to the margin call, he got liquidated at like $1000 or so, it was a small leverage short.
So becareful shorting altcoins.
Also you need to be careful shorting. There was an individual that decided to short DASH at around $100 early 2017. The price was basically around $5 the year prior and it had major resistance at $15 that it broke, so he figured it might go to $150 or $200 or $250 max before heading back to $15. And basically he ended up emptying his entire Poloniex account due to the margin call, he got liquidated at like $1000 or so, it was a small leverage short.
So becareful shorting altcoins.
January 13, 2020, 09:03:30 PM
holding for a long time is not good, especially when that particular coin price is decreasing.. you'll just disappoint your self, and ask why you didn't sell it.. last time
Holding Alt especially if not in top 10,will be hard to maintain. Been regretting not selling my altcoins before hoping that they will still have chance to increase, apparently they are not. We will be needing a plenty of time to realize that it will be hard for them to bring them back in that amount knowing bitcoin is not pumping. So when there is already a chance to earn from those alts better sell them already. January 13, 2020, 08:54:27 PM
The key to success in trading is to be patient. Yes, when we have bought a coin and until today the price is not maximal or even minus, I think we should be patient, and always remember everything has a time, I think the bull run in this year will be a bit late, but it's certain that the time we hope will come too. And see now all the markets are green, BTC or altcoin, when it's good to play our techniques and predictions, you should hold your altcoin that you already have.
January 13, 2020, 07:53:43 PM
holding for a long time is not good, especially when that particular coin price is decreasing.. you'll just disappoint your self, and ask why you didn't sell it.. last time
That all depends on when you started holding and how long you define long term as. I would be happy if I would have held Bitcoin all of last year and picked up that 100% profit. However, I would have been disappointed if I held all year the year before. If you define long term as 3-5 years, you could easily make good money even if you got in at a bad time.
January 13, 2020, 02:44:41 PM
holding for a long time is not good, especially when that particular coin price is decreasing.. you'll just disappoint your self, and ask why you didn't sell it.. last time
January 10, 2020, 01:23:02 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
i don't know much about leverage trading but are you willing to switch to margin trading because it will open more options for you out there, websites like binance, poloniex. becareful doing leverage trading or margin trading because you don't what will happen, the coins price might just rise out of nowhere. Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
January 10, 2020, 12:41:14 PM
i dont know if its a good idea to start betting against the market at this point man
look at the charts..
it may go down a little but probably wont fall another 90%
it other hand a lot of space to grow
if you longed until now and going to short the bottom, it will be painful
look at the charts..
it may go down a little but probably wont fall another 90%
it other hand a lot of space to grow
if you longed until now and going to short the bottom, it will be painful
January 10, 2020, 12:21:11 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Most coins are all nothing but shit so yes they will indefinitely fall. Exchanges and trading houses know this, that's why you cant short every coin because no one wants to take the side of a guaranteed loser. Ballsy shorting this market right now, it's been in a downward trend for 2 years now, you missed the real money on the way down why would you put yourself at risk for basically pennies on the dollar at this point.
Oh well, you are right about missing the peak-shorting-moments, and it's almost not worth much right now, seeing how the market may have started on a seemingly bullish trend. But I'm quite afraid that it may be a trap. Market may still dip further, and if not the joke's one me.
Yeah the risk outweighs the possible gain at this point.you can easily long some of these alts because there is more upside than downside at this point. Most alts are 98% or so off their high. That tells me we are at the bottom "end", can it go lower yeah but at some point people wont even bother opening their wallets let alone sell at these prices. Good luck to you man
January 10, 2020, 08:05:59 AM
Actually, you made a right decision doing aome short trades at margin trading. While market's situation lately were at bear, we only have three choices;
1. keep holding your coins until pump will occur
2. Buy more cheap coins while these were at low cost
3. Do some margin trading altcoin/usd pairs or it's up to you. Leverage trading is appropriate on these situation.
1. keep holding your coins until pump will occur
2. Buy more cheap coins while these were at low cost
3. Do some margin trading altcoin/usd pairs or it's up to you. Leverage trading is appropriate on these situation.
January 09, 2020, 05:56:13 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Most coins are all nothing but shit so yes they will indefinitely fall. Exchanges and trading houses know this, that's why you cant short every coin because no one wants to take the side of a guaranteed loser. Ballsy shorting this market right now, it's been in a downward trend for 2 years now, you missed the real money on the way down why would you put yourself at risk for basically pennies on the dollar at this point.
Oh well, you are right about missing the peak-shorting-moments, and it's almost not worth much right now, seeing how the market may have started on a seemingly bullish trend. But I'm quite afraid that it may be a trap. Market may still dip further, and if not the joke's one me.
January 09, 2020, 04:50:13 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Most coins are all nothing but shit so yes they will indefinitely fall. Exchanges and trading houses know this, that's why you cant short every coin because no one wants to take the side of a guaranteed loser. Ballsy shorting this market right now, it's been in a downward trend for 2 years now, you missed the real money on the way down why would you put yourself at risk for basically pennies on the dollar at this point.
January 09, 2020, 04:44:14 PM
I don't know why altcoin price of movement not too similar such as bitcoin because seems every months it was dominated with downtrend and i think it's normal if you thinking hold altcoin seems not good options anymore and actually several days ago i was so glad when there was some of altcoins has been raise up such as Eth and i was expect more because seems the price can increase more than 4% in a day but seems all of it not according to my hopes because most of altcoin turn to bleeding since yesterday
I also think this is not what I expected anymore but there is a peculiarity from yesterday that this weekend seems to have an upside down surprise because I think this slow movement from some panic trends of traders will not stop to hope and contribute to market although small in trading be patient in take a chance 
January 09, 2020, 02:11:37 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
If you are saying about “holding for how many months” does it mean that in 2nd Quarter and 3rd quarter of 2019 you have keeping that currencies?but by those months Crypto had already pumped and if you purchase your currencies in 2018 or start of 2019 then surely in September 2019 you have a more than double profit?what made you keep on holding?greed?looking for hype like 2017? Try to be contented in our smaller profit than waiting for Bull but Traps is what you’ve gotUnfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
I would rather earn 3-5% than risking my investment for greediness .
Well shorting is danger yet profitable because of the psychology effect
Anyhow Fulcrum is really good
If you were looking for more options, binance offer the pairs too
Every profitable are risky so it is up to OP if he can still handle the situation?or lose the capital the decision is always the risk on this and not any other things. Anyhow Fulcrum is really good
If you were looking for more options, binance offer the pairs too
January 09, 2020, 01:16:03 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Just sell them all for a stablecoin, and buy back later. That's the easiest, and you can do it anywhere.
If there isn't a pair with a stablecoin for your particular alt, then sell it for BTC instead and then sell that for a stablecoin.
I would say though that it is a brave move to sell at this time, when evidence is mounting that the tide is starting to turn and things are starting to look more bullish than they have for a while.
January 09, 2020, 05:35:42 AM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
I found this on google: https://bbod.io/ Supporting more altcoin than others. But I have never used this exchange, and I have no idea about it. Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
January 09, 2020, 04:41:35 AM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Just sell them all for a stablecoin, and buy back later. That's the easiest, and you can do it anywhere.
If there isn't a pair with a stablecoin for your particular alt, then sell it for BTC instead and then sell that for a stablecoin.
I would say though that it is a brave move to sell at this time, when evidence is mounting that the tide is starting to turn and things are starting to look more bullish than they have for a while.
January 09, 2020, 04:24:03 AM
I don't know why altcoin price of movement not too similar such as bitcoin because seems every months it was dominated with downtrend and i think it's normal if you thinking hold altcoin seems not good options anymore and actually several days ago i was so glad when there was some of altcoins has been raise up such as Eth and i was expect more because seems the price can increase more than 4% in a day but seems all of it not according to my hopes because most of altcoin turn to bleeding since yesterday
January 09, 2020, 02:08:10 AM
Well shorting is danger yet profitable because of the psychology effect
Anyhow Fulcrum is really good
If you were looking for more options, binance offer the pairs too
Anyhow Fulcrum is really good
If you were looking for more options, binance offer the pairs too
January 08, 2020, 10:11:29 PM
Just wait for the altseason to start, there will be big profit to those who continue to hodl altcoins. Check your altcoins if they are for long term or not, all those for long term hodl them and the rest sell them while there is a chance.
This is one thing to remember. If the altcoins you are hodling are shitcoins then you should not even think of the possibility that they will moon. Dump them as early as possible. Waiting for them to moon is probably going to take you a lifetime. So make sure first that the altcoins you are hodling are those that will really rally by the time the bulls are coming.
January 08, 2020, 09:55:33 PM
Just wait for the altseason to start, there will be big profit to those who continue to hodl altcoins. Check your altcoins if they are for long term or not, all those for long term hodl them and the rest sell them while there is a chance.
January 08, 2020, 06:57:39 PM
Decision making is very important, if you’re holding do it with plan and strategies so you don’t hold forever and you can have the chance to get some profit. If there’s no altcoins season then you should be more active on short trading. The future can’t be sure, if there’s a chance to make money right now grab it and enjoy it so you wont regret that in the future.
January 08, 2020, 03:33:18 PM
I felt too emotional and should have taken profit when I longed ETH the other day, and now... I got liquidated - call it an amateur's bad luck, I still lost some dough. The true secret of the market is never to get greedy. Short when you can, long when you must and take profits in between.
January 08, 2020, 01:27:29 PM
It is an emotional thing, we don't like things going down and it seems it is wrong to short but what most people forget is that life is up and down and those that can take advantage of this would make the most of it. I could remember Rothchild how he made is money. But people need to understand the risk of using leverage also to short so as not to get burn
January 08, 2020, 12:57:14 PM
it should have been done just weeks when the bear market was just in the early stage. dump them all and do the trading on BTC/USD. dump the hell out of them since holding these altcoin will not earn you during the times of bear. you can forget looking for which platform to trade when it comes to BTC trading and its all just about the volume anymore.
January 08, 2020, 05:58:31 AM
Unfortunately there is no shorting of altcoins like bitcoin, normally that would have been very weird as well, everyone would have short altcoins because we have no emotional connection with most of them and only look at them as financial gains. Even bitcoin was used like that when first shorting came about and right now it is less than when it first started but still shorted a lot and people sell coins to make profits that way however altcoins are definitely going to bottom if shorting ever happens at all.
So, altcoins can't be shorted because in order to short something you have to have people who long it as well, people who think it won't go down, 99% of the people who have altcoins would sell their altcoins if they could make money that way.
So, altcoins can't be shorted because in order to short something you have to have people who long it as well, people who think it won't go down, 99% of the people who have altcoins would sell their altcoins if they could make money that way.
January 07, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Look for exchanges that offer leverage trading and you will find all the coins that you want to short. But before doing that you have to know that your decision is purely based on emotional outburst. In other words you are like a desperate person trying to waste everything because his expectations are not met. And do you know how this will end up? This will only drain your account of the last value it got. If you are this emotional you will not really thrive in this crypto world. Harden up your hand and don't fold.
January 07, 2020, 09:42:35 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Im not aware about that fulcrum.trade leverage platform.Im not considering any platforms aside from Bitmex itself.So im not aware if there were existing aside on what you had mentioned.
You aren't the only one who do thinks that hodling doesn't work yet majority would think the same way specially on hodling alts same as you do.
If you don't still need money nowadays then its better to hold those coins and forget for sometime.If you are that desperate on shorting those then
alts you do mention do have specific markets for you to be able to done it.
January 07, 2020, 09:36:34 PM
If you invest or risk in some few alts like eth,bch,xrp that really have potentials then you earn by now like me example you need to buy every drops because that more often happen here that market grow so better to choose really trusted and popular like you need to invest or risk every drops of that,Moreover i think your investment OP is in the past already so if you still hold that then it takes time to back
January 07, 2020, 09:23:41 PM
now is the time for everyone must have a strong mentality to survive
I think if you buy altcoin from the start you must be prepared with the risks, not every day everyone can win here.
my advice is to stay patient because maybe if you give up now you will feel disappointed the next day
I think if you buy altcoin from the start you must be prepared with the risks, not every day everyone can win here.
my advice is to stay patient because maybe if you give up now you will feel disappointed the next day
January 07, 2020, 09:20:58 PM
It's part of the life you need to take the risk and as saying "Patience is a virtue". You may need to wait for a long time to sell those altcoins but it would take time. And best solution for now is to sell a portion of your altcoins then buy back again if you think their is a potential that their price will increase in the future.
And all of us are having the same problem and for now we need to take an action rather wait for the Moon.
And all of us are having the same problem and for now we need to take an action rather wait for the Moon.
January 07, 2020, 09:17:48 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
You could.
Deribit offers ETH futures and options, and I'm pretty sure Bitmex offers them as well. Those are the two with liquidity. There are smaller exchanges that offer more trading pairs and markets but don't necessarily have the liquidity to really facilitate the trades that you want to do.
But honestly, shorting right now is pretty dumb imo with the bull market on the horizon.
January 07, 2020, 06:45:28 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Patience is the most important aspect of trading, if you had the patience to hold these coins till now why not hold it for a couple of years and see how the market will respond and then take a decision on what you are going to the coins you are holding. Since you are planning to manipulate the market by shorting them i guess you are holding a huge amount of coins to make manipulate the market if not good luck dreaming 
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January 07, 2020, 05:59:30 PM
Hey look to the market again, everything is going green so before you miss this out and the plan that you already have of shorting them. See and how much you've gain if ever you have done what you are suppose to do. I don't know about that platform and probably you're one of the few that knows it here but again I say, go and look to the market now and check if the altcoins you are holding is also affected positively of the market pump lately.
January 07, 2020, 05:39:55 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Sadly i dont know of any platforms that allow MOST alts to be shorted and such, i suppose its just a liquidity thing?
usually you will only see the major coins available. Seems like a good oppertunity for a dedicated platform, hmmm...
Then again, the bullrun has just begun man, NOW you want out?
2020 imo is gonna be a good year for hodlers.. January 07, 2020, 08:52:48 AM
You can go margin on Binance easily. Just can use whatever coins you have as a collateral and borrow x3-5 in tokens you want. https://www.binance.vision/tutorials/binance-margin-trading-guide here is a guide for this with an example.
he is asking for decentralized exchange, binance is not a decentralized exchange.you can try to use this exchange https://ddex.io/, I never use it before though so I can not say much about it.
January 07, 2020, 03:56:20 AM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Honestly i don't know any decentralized version where you can short them. May i ask what's wrong with centralized platforms for doing this? Some of them don't even require kyc depending how much you are withdrawing in a month...
But really? Why do you think after like 2 years of bear run that now is the best time to short?
January 07, 2020, 03:47:53 AM
You can go margin on Binance easily. Just can use whatever coins you have as a collateral and borrow x3-5 in tokens you want. https://www.binance.vision/tutorials/binance-margin-trading-guide here is a guide for this with an example.
January 06, 2020, 06:33:07 PM
well well , leverage trading is not an option for me, its just make more worst for me.
i just choice to cut loss , rather than using a leverage trading, even for 4x , or the final choice , just go to dice table.
i just choice to cut loss , rather than using a leverage trading, even for 4x , or the final choice , just go to dice table.
January 06, 2020, 06:12:31 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Very brave move ... After such a long period of bear market trend can reverse at any moment ... Of course, it is possible that prices will continue to fall, but think better or wait for a change in trend and then play for increases ..
Don't you think? 
January 06, 2020, 05:57:52 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Trading was more like a gambling style these days, and it was so unfortunate that many people still got so fascinated with underlying hardships in growing their asset. I think it was all worthless to see those old coins not gaining a good price after two years of holding. This is very intense and disappointing to see after all the efforts and time wasted.
January 06, 2020, 05:22:58 PM
I waited for alt season for many months now and it seems that instead of a bull run, all I do is bleed. So, I'm thinking this hodling thing ain't working for me anymore, is there any decentralized platform that allows me to short all possible altcoins out there? It's time to bet against the market.
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
Unfortunately, for now, I'm only aware of the fulcrum.trade leveraging platform. It only allows me to short a few cryptos: Eth, WBTC, LINK, ZRX and KNC. Need another one with more options.
Any ideas guys?
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