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Topic: If capitalism is so great why are angolos so broke, and have low birth rates? (Read 145 times)

legendary
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Birthrates are not indicative of the success of capitalism nor is individual income, or collective income for that matter, a good indicator. Median income can be skewed one way or another and doesn't necessarily account for inflation of a country's currency at face value. Life expectancy, standard of living, and poverty rate are all good indicators of whether capitalistic is working within a free market and the U.S and Britain both exceed all of these metrics.

The U.S. continues to have the largest economy with the largest private sectors introducing new innovation into various markets which is another metric to measure. Current median household income in the U.S. is around 60k USD which isn't much but the U.S has an overwhelmingly high standard of living which reached its peak in 2017, a decade high. Low birthrates just means there are more virgins around  Roll Eyes

I kind of disagree here.

A birthrate lower then 2.1 will decreases the population and if we dont reverse that we will die out in the long term.

A good economic system should not only increase the standard of life, but also increase or stabilize the amount of population.

But "we" never die out! Why not? Because each person dies for himself/herself. Other people might die at the same time - or real close to the same time. But people don't die together. Each person only experiences death for himself.

Since people usually live to less than 100 years, and since people only die for themselves, there is no "we." If the whole race of humans dies out, who cares? Everybody is going to die anyway. And once you're dead, the rest of the people that are still alive don't matter to you any longer in any way. So, really, the rest of the people barely matter to you even while you are alive. They only matter to you regarding YOUR ease and comfort of living.

What is your comfort and ease of living? Fresh air to breathe, Enough good food to eat. Fresh, clean water to drink. Sufficient clean clothing. Roof overhead that doesn't leak. Friends. Peace. Salvation for Heaven.

When capitalism increases in a person's life so that he has more than this^^, it starts to take away from his comfort. It might even take away from his salvation. And salvation loss means comfort loss for eternity.

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legendary
Activity: 2464
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Birthrates are not indicative of the success of capitalism nor is individual income, or collective income for that matter, a good indicator. Median income can be skewed one way or another and doesn't necessarily account for inflation of a country's currency at face value. Life expectancy, standard of living, and poverty rate are all good indicators of whether capitalistic is working within a free market and the U.S and Britain both exceed all of these metrics.

The U.S. continues to have the largest economy with the largest private sectors introducing new innovation into various markets which is another metric to measure. Current median household income in the U.S. is around 60k USD which isn't much but the U.S has an overwhelmingly high standard of living which reached its peak in 2017, a decade high. Low birthrates just means there are more virgins around  Roll Eyes

I kind of disagree here.

A birthrate lower then 2.1 will decreases the population and if we dont reverse that we will die out in the long term.

A good economic system should not only increase the standard of life, but also increase or stabilize the amount of population.
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
have low birth rates,
People in third world countries (poor) = no job.
No job = more time for sex.
More time for sex = higher birth rates.

People in first world countries like americans & brits = more jobs.
More jobs = less time for sex, more time for career.
Less time for sex, more time for career = lower birth rates.

and depend on labour from abroad.
What type of job/s are you referring to here?

this prooves again, being the good guy only punishes you, better have also high birth rates and zerg the others too.

Zergs are going to turn the entire world into a shithole as their own homeland is.
If that's good, I don't know what's bad.
sr. member
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That depends on the economy of one country most of Americans and Britz owns multi million dollar companies and has good paying job because their in the first world with lots of opportunities and their currency's value is way higher compared from the third world countries that has less job opportunities resulting in poverty and overpopulation.
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
have low birth rates,
People in third world countries (poor) = no job.
No job = more time for sex.
More time for sex = higher birth rates.

People in first world countries like americans & brits = more jobs.
More jobs = less time for sex, more time for career.
Less time for sex, more time for career = lower birth rates.

and depend on labour from abroad.
What type of job/s are you referring to here?

this prooves again, being the good guy only punishes you, better have also high birth rates and zerg the others too.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1150
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have low birth rates,
People in third world countries (poor) = no job.
No job = more time for sex.
More time for sex = higher birth rates.

People in first world countries like americans & brits = more jobs.
More jobs = less time for sex, more time for career.
Less time for sex, more time for career = lower birth rates.

and depend on labour from abroad.
What type of job/s are you referring to here?
legendary
Activity: 2828
Merit: 1515
Birthrates are not indicative of the success of capitalism nor is individual income, or collective income for that matter, a good indicator. Median income can be skewed one way or another and doesn't necessarily account for inflation of a country's currency at face value. Life expectancy, standard of living, and poverty rate are all good indicators of whether capitalistic is working within a free market and the U.S and Britain both exceed all of these metrics.

The U.S. continues to have the largest economy with the largest private sectors introducing new innovation into various markets which is another metric to measure. Current median household income in the U.S. is around 60k USD which isn't much but the U.S has an overwhelmingly high standard of living which reached its peak in 2017, a decade high. Low birthrates just means there are more virgins around  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
People traditionally have lots of children in poor countries because children help work the fields, the house etc.
When countries increase their prosperity the first generation that has the ease of living experiences a baby boom and the next generation has less than 2 children per household because children are no longer helpful but a liability in financial terms.

We can see this happening in China today.
They had the 1 child policy which didn't work all that well but sort of did.
Today, the Chinese have less children than they did during the 1 child policy (first generation of the increased prosperity). They want to increase their birthrate but it's not working because the natality naturally declined with the increased prosperity.

Rich countries have fewer children.

Their ratio of male to female got totaly skewed by the 1 child policy (females were usually killed in favour of a male child).

Thus a whole generation of chinese males wont be able to find a wife and get kids.

Industrialisation plays a big part too and it can be seen in every single industry nation with exception of the usa (though this is because of the big numbers of immigrants from poor nations who still get a lot of kids before being fully integrated).



legendary
Activity: 3906
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People in poor countries often have to work harder to make a living. When they get home, they might be exhausted from strenuous work, but this leads them to want to relax. Especially if they don't have alchol around, they do what is available... the wife. More kids.

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legendary
Activity: 2198
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Freedom&Honor
People traditionally have lots of children in poor countries because children help work the fields, the house etc.
When countries increase their prosperity the first generation that has the ease of living experiences a baby boom and the next generation has less than 2 children per household because children are no longer helpful but a liability in financial terms.

We can see this happening in China today.
They had the 1 child policy which didn't work all that well but sort of did.
Today, the Chinese have less children than they did during the 1 child policy (first generation of the increased prosperity). They want to increase their birthrate but it's not working because the natality naturally declined with the increased prosperity.

Rich countries have fewer children.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Lots of Americans and Brits have lots of money.

Low birth rates exists because the people want to spend more time enjoying their money.

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sr. member
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if capitalism is so great why are americans and brits always so broke have low birth rates, and depend on labour from abroad.
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