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Technically soccer is a type of sport and it's not a gamble because the bets in soccer are different and not part of soccer.
Football is fundamentally different from gambling and this is something for sure.
As for why gambling is banned, in fact they are not really banned and only a few countries do have a ban.
that's because there are those that contradict the religion, norms and regulations of the government of a country itself.
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Morally speaking some countries could feel the obligation to protect their citizens against the risk of gambling addictions. Even though only a very small percentage of gamblers actually become addicted it still presents a risk. Against this is the potential earnings for the government from taxes on gambling. I would argue that most countries allow gambling as it's a good tax income for the state. Then there are religious countries where gambling with money is not allowed. If the majority of a country following a religion that banned gambling it's nearly impossible for politicians to allow it. But even the strictest ban on gambling can't fully stop it. There will always be people trying get around it and create a blackmarket. For me football and betting belongs together, even if it's just a few bets among friends.
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OP better lock this thread because he is out of reason
I think you guys misunderstood the purpose of this thread which is for discussion purposes, am not trying to make a judgement on the subject matter of trying to prove a point rather am pointing out the abnormality in the system.
Football is a widely celebrated sports game that requires the physical involvement of the players but the other aspect is winning 🏅 and this is subject to so many rules just like gambling games within the same environment I will always say there is only a tin line between football & gambling.
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Doesn't make any sense at all, I mean the two are not even connected. Football is a sport, gambling is not, they only make sports as a way to earn more money by betting in sports, while gambling is gambling, it is a general term that consist a lot of games, not sports, if you know what I mean.

Gambling is any form of actions that needs a bet in order to double up your money or win money in return. Each government has their own reason why they are not making everything legal about gambling.

Exactly, football and gambling are totally different from each other it's just the way people are making fun of the game is what gives the illusion that the two are connected. Let's say if football game is just a game and no betting mechanics involve this will not be called as gambling after all, football is a sport  While, a gambling is a gambling it is in a sense where when we heard gambling it's all about taking risks and hoping for a luck to win the game.
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Doesn't make any sense at all, I mean the two are not even connected. Football is a sport, gambling is not, they only make sports as a way to earn more money by betting in sports, while gambling is gambling, it is a general term that consist a lot of games, not sports, if you know what I mean.

Gambling is any form of actions that needs a bet in order to double up your money or win money in return. Each government has their own reason why they are not making everything legal about gambling.
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Football being legal has nothing to do with betting on football being illegal. Professional athletes for example aren't allowed to bet on the leagues or maybe even on the sports they play. Because the possibility for misuse and illegal practices is too big.

Playing football every day is not an addiction that can hurt you or those close to you. Gambling is.
Being good at football earns you money. Being bad at gambling causes financial turmoil to you and your family. 
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Sports can actually go on without gambling, and likewise, gambling will go on without sports. So football which is a sport is not the problem, but the gambling attribute itself which may result to problems hence why some governments still prohibit gambling.
I agree with that bold. Both sports and gambling can work by themselves, without any relation as in sports, we know many sports that people like to watch. While in gambling, people also have so many types of gambling games they can play. When the government prohibits gambling, they will not prohibit sports because people like to watch and play each other.

People bet on sports because they want to make money and to do this, they have many sports betting that uses fiat or crypto to accommodate people to gamble.
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When you play in a casino, for example slot games, nothing is up to you except how much money you wager. It is the computer that decides whether you win or not. When it comes to betting on football, you are betting because of your knowledge of the teams. Of course there is always a random element and luck, but what you bet is entirely up to you.
But have you read the OP? it is the question of legality and not about which to play so your post is not relevant to the OP's question .

Yes, I read the question that this thread concerns. In my explanation, I mentioned the difference between playing in a casino and betting on sports events. In my opinion, it is because of the difference that I described that the governments of some countries make football betting legal and gambling in the casino illegal.

(I added this hint in the quoted post especially for you, so that you have no doubts what I wrote about)

Could you name at least one country where such a law exists, namely sports betting (football betting) is legal but casino gambling is illegal? Personally, I have never heard of such a case.
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...football is the highest gambling around the world
This is a very ambiguous statement OP, firstly who did the statistics? and how has football which is a sport/competition become the highest gambling. Gambling is a broad term OP, there are many ways people gamble and many sports/competitions people gamble on. Have you considered countries OP where football is not popular and they have other sports? Don't people still gamble?
Sports can actually go on without gambling, and likewise, gambling will go on without sports. So football which is a sport is not the problem, but the gambling attribute itself which may result to problems hence why some governments still prohibit gambling.

OP better lock this thread because he is out of reason for trying to connect gambling to football which is pure sports, in a country where betting is illegal you can play football as long as there is no betting involved but when you put betting on it you can be charged, likewise, on guessing game you can guess who will win a particular fight but put money or create a platform for this and you will go to prison if football is the highest gambling that's because it is played in a country where gambling is legal.
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...football is the highest gambling around the world
This is a very ambiguous statement OP, firstly who did the statistics? and how has football which is a sport/competition become the highest gambling. Gambling is a broad term OP, there are many ways people gamble and many sports/competitions people gamble on. Have you considered countries OP where football is not popular and they have other sports? Don't people still gamble?
Sports can actually go on without gambling, and likewise, gambling will go on without sports. So football which is a sport is not the problem, but the gambling attribute itself which may result to problems hence why some governments still prohibit gambling.
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In the same way, because it was a sporting event, the NBA does not consider it illegal; this was done to encourage young people to participate in sports rather than engage in illegal activities such as drug use. This is also a form of physical exercise that is beneficial to our health. When it comes to gambling, it is prohibited in other countries because it involves money and has the potential to lead to addiction in the player. There are also countries that are extremely religious, which is why they are prohibited.
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When you play in a casino, for example slot games, nothing is up to you except how much money you wager. It is the computer that decides whether you win or not. When it comes to betting on football, you are betting because of your knowledge of the teams. Of course there is always a random element and luck, but what you bet is entirely up to you.
But have you read the OP? it is the question of legality and not about which to play so your post is not relevant to the OP's question .
You are comparing sports with gambling? How are they both even related? Gambling depends on pure luck. You have no control over the outcome. On other hand, football is not a game of chance, and depends on pure skill. More skilled teams have higher chance of winning the prize money. If you are talking about sports betting, then the title of your thread is misleading. If all sorts of gambling is banned in a country, then betting on sports games (soccer, football, NBA and all other sports) is also illegal. Those who do it, do it illegally.
actually it is the legality mate that he is talking here,  so Yeah sports betting is much appreciated in many countries while banning in others .
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You are comparing sports with gambling? How are they both even related? Gambling depends on pure luck. You have no control over the outcome. On other hand, football is not a game of chance, and depends on pure skill. More skilled teams have higher chance of winning the prize money. If you are talking about sports betting, then the title of your thread is misleading. If all sorts of gambling is banned in a country, then betting on sports games (soccer, football, NBA and all other sports) is also illegal. Those who do it, do it illegally.
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Agreed, gambling and sports are different industries. Here sports industry have the ability to move on its own. The gambling industry is much dependent over the sports industry, but for the same OP have misunderstood that gambling need to be legal when the sports is legal.

As said governments have different policies which portrays why gambling is illegal in the country. Also there were more sports/games are illegal in different countries. For example cockfights, there are countries and people yet conduct those games and gamble over it.
Sports gambling is dependent on sports, but not gambling necessarily. I mean we have casinos out there that have their own gambling games such as slots, dice, blackjack, etc., so it isn't necessarily bound to sports. So even if just, for example, a country banned sports for some dumb reason, gambling could still thrive and vice versa. The two don't need to be allowed for both of them to thrive, they're two separate industries after all. If we were to actually specify it to sports gambling though, then yea, OP has it the other way around, sports gambling was just a byproduct of sports themselves imo, without sports, there wouldn't be sports betting.
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The reason why football is not prohibited is because it's not gambling but a sports. Each country have their own rules and reason why gambling is allowed or not allowed. I'm sure you know that the gambling and sports are different from each other though you may think that footbal is gambling since you can bet when the football have odds that you can base the bet like what team will win and more.
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I take my country for instance gambling is prohibited by law but again football betting is allowed and is even advertised on national television stations.
How about you take a deeper look at your country's gambling laws? There are different rules per jurisdiction. Some allow land based casinos to operate since it's regulated but prohibits online gambling. Some allow all except sports betting.

Yes, exactly. I don't believe there is a country that prohibits gambling but permits football betting specifically. The OP must have got something wrong, so it would be best for him to do more thorough research on what is allowed and what is not in his country.
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Well in my own opinion --let us respect other country's points of view when it comes to gambling, if they will prohibit this then that is with them.
If they will allow sports and gambling were not, because sports are totally different from gambling, gamblers, and bettors who watched the sports can do gambling without even knowing the sports athletes. So everything that has an odds to bet, gambling is allowed.
There are countries where gambling is not allowed and for sure they are taking care of their people not to turn into gambling addicts and full of debts.
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This is the more reason we try to differentiate between gambling and sports games and try to find a partway between the two, it's either gambling is detached from sport or there should be no featuring of physical sports games on bookmakers.
There is a clear difference between the two. It's just you trying hard to associate sports competition with gambling.
Sports competition can exist without people gambling on it.
Bookies can add sports betting if there are no laws against it.

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I take my country for instance gambling is prohibited by law but again football betting is allowed and is even advertised on national television stations.
How about you take a deeper look at your country's gambling laws? There are different rules per jurisdiction. Some allow land based casinos to operate since it's regulated but prohibits online gambling. Some allow all except sports betting.
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When it comes to sport betting, it has to do with knowledge and experience, and just playing in a casino is pure luck.
Addiction to gambling leads to the fact that most of the time people lose all their savings and get into debts, which creates more and more problems and often ends in tragic way. This is a very big difference, and I think that's why governments want to protect society by making gambling illegal. Betting on football is more up to you, not just the casino.
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Every government that regulates gambling can allow betting on some events, they don't want casinos in their country but they can allow football or boxing or even horse racing betting, it's up to the government what kind of gambling they would like to regulate but about your thread football is a sport it was not created for people to gamble, gambling operators just use football for people to gamble.
Agreed, the OP seems to have it backwards, it gives me the impression he thinks that sports exist just for people to gamble, when it is the other way around, people enjoy sports on their own and there are a few that like to spice things up a little bit by also gambling on their favorite sport.

And since governments make the laws they can decide if they ban gambling completely, if they allow some gambling games while banning another forms of gambling or if they allow almost all forms of gambling, it is up to them and while I would prefer that most governments were progressive on that topic at the end of the day we need to follow whatever regulations we have in our country, fortunately for me I live in a country in which gambling is allowed so I do not have to hide my preferences at all, as it happens to some other members that live in other countries.


the OP needs to revisit his post and maybe differentiate gambling vs sports. because he only provided the definition of gambling but he forgot to post the definition of sports. so maybe, he will understand that sports itself is a stand-alone industry
so yes, sports can exist even without gambling. and since every country has their own stance towards gambling activities, they can impose whatever they deem necessary - according to their religion, culture etc.
it is not the case that if the sports is legal then gambling on the sports will be legal as well.
Agreed, gambling and sports are different industries. Here sports industry have the ability to move on its own. The gambling industry is much dependent over the sports industry, but for the same OP have misunderstood that gambling need to be legal when the sports is legal.

As said governments have different policies which portrays why gambling is illegal in the country. Also there were more sports/games are illegal in different countries. For example cockfights, there are countries and people yet conduct those games and gamble over it.
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Every government that regulates gambling can allow betting on some events, they don't want casinos in their country but they can allow football or boxing or even horse racing betting, it's up to the government what kind of gambling they would like to regulate but about your thread football is a sport it was not created for people to gamble, gambling operators just use football for people to gamble.
Agreed, the OP seems to have it backwards, it gives me the impression he thinks that sports exist just for people to gamble, when it is the other way around, people enjoy sports on their own and there are a few that like to spice things up a little bit by also gambling on their favorite sport.

And since governments make the laws they can decide if they ban gambling completely, if they allow some gambling games while banning another forms of gambling or if they allow almost all forms of gambling, it is up to them and while I would prefer that most governments were progressive on that topic at the end of the day we need to follow whatever regulations we have in our country, fortunately for me I live in a country in which gambling is allowed so I do not have to hide my preferences at all, as it happens to some other members that live in other countries.


the OP needs to revisit his post and maybe differentiate gambling vs sports. because he only provided the definition of gambling but he forgot to post the definition of sports. so maybe, he will understand that sports itself is a stand-alone industry
so yes, sports can exist even without gambling. and since every country has their own stance towards gambling activities, they can impose whatever they deem necessary - according to their religion, culture etc.
it is not the case that if the sports is legal then gambling on the sports will be legal as well.
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Every government that regulates gambling can allow betting on some events, they don't want casinos in their country but they can allow football or boxing or even horse racing betting, it's up to the government what kind of gambling they would like to regulate but about your thread football is a sport it was not created for people to gamble, gambling operators just use football for people to gamble.
Agreed, the OP seems to have it backwards, it gives me the impression he thinks that sports exist just for people to gamble, when it is the other way around, people enjoy sports on their own and there are a few that like to spice things up a little bit by also gambling on their favorite sport.

And since governments make the laws they can decide if they ban gambling completely, if they allow some gambling games while banning another forms of gambling or if they allow almost all forms of gambling, it is up to them and while I would prefer that most governments were progressive on that topic at the end of the day we need to follow whatever regulations we have in our country, fortunately for me I live in a country in which gambling is allowed so I do not have to hide my preferences at all, as it happens to some other members that live in other countries.

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That just sets the boundary and difference of it.

It's entirely different and we're just used to the type of gambling with sports and we always see bookmakers and that's probably why when it comes to sports, the first thing that comes to our minds is all about gambling.

Because for a long time, it's always associated with it but not just because there's a sport, it's always connected to it, it's not like that.
This is the more reason we try to differentiate between gambling and sports games and try to find a partway between the two, it's either gambling is detached from sport or there should be no featuring of physical sports games on bookmakers. I take my country for instance gambling is prohibited by law but again football betting is allowed and is even advertised on national television stations.

Every government that regulates gambling can allow betting on some events, they don't want casinos in their country but they can allow football or boxing or even horse racing betting, it's up to the government what kind of gambling they would like to regulate but about your thread football is a sport it was not created for people to gamble, gambling operators just use football for people to gamble.
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it's all gambling because the teams are playing for the price.
So can we say, a group singing contest (choir/orchestra) a gambling too since these people are singing for the price? So do a dance competition? Come on! You're out of context I think and the way you see it is somehow wrong. Take it as a competition on talent and skills and not just it's always plain gambling insight.

Well, those tests of talent and skills in the subject of competition, football is also a gamble in its entirety, as the team competes for the ultimate price in the game and also fans can bet on those football matches these bets make the most of the revenue the football bodies make.
I clearly understood your point on this but for the sake of comparison that is why I open this thread for discussion.
Well, it is a gamble but we can't deny the fact that it doesn't revolve around that notion. Clubs do fight for the prize money I know that but aren't these clubs earned as well on ticket sales, broadcasting, merchandise, sponsorships etc.?
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That just sets the boundary and difference of it.

It's entirely different and we're just used to the type of gambling with sports and we always see bookmakers and that's probably why when it comes to sports, the first thing that comes to our minds is all about gambling.

Because for a long time, it's always associated with it but not just because there's a sport, it's always connected to it, it's not like that.
This is the more reason we try to differentiate between gambling and sports games and try to find a partway between the two, it's either gambling is detached from sport or there should be no featuring of physical sports games on bookmakers. I take my country for instance gambling is prohibited by law but again football betting is allowed and is even advertised on national television stations.
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The answer is already there and given by many and there's the distinction between a sport and gambling. Football is a sport and in gambling, there can be any other activity that can be applied to it.

Plus, it also depends on the country that prohibits gambling. If they're a Muslim country then we can easily understand that it's about the belief and that's the same with other countries that prohibits it.

Correct, you can gamble on whatever including politics, economics, etc. The distance between football and gambling is equal to the distance between the Earth and Mars.
That just sets the boundary and difference of it.

It's entirely different and we're just used to the type of gambling with sports and we always see bookmakers and that's probably why when it comes to sports, the first thing that comes to our minds is all about gambling.

Because for a long time, it's always associated with it but not just because there's a sport, it's always connected to it, it's not like that.
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
What is gambling?

This makes more points clearer or am I missing something?



Sports is different with gambling and businessman are just exploiting the game because they know that this sports have many fans and they see a huge potential to earn millions because many fans want also to bet on their favorite team. And don't be surprise if government will ban its betting because we know in some parts of the world gambling is illegal and sports is not.
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The answer is already there and given by many and there's the distinction between a sport and gambling. Football is a sport and in gambling, there can be any other activity that can be applied to it.

Plus, it also depends on the country that prohibits gambling. If they're a Muslim country then we can easily understand that it's about the belief and that's the same with other countries that prohibits it.

Correct, you can gamble on whatever including politics, economics, etc. The distance between football and gambling is equal to the distance between the Earth and Mars.
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The answer is already there and given by many and there's the distinction between a sport and gambling. Football is a sport and in gambling, there can be any other activity that can be applied to it.

Plus, it also depends on the country that prohibits gambling. If they're a Muslim country then we can easily understand that it's about the belief and that's the same with other countries that prohibits it.
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When even you wager on the sports game result, we don't call it gambling but we call it Sports Betting. That is why it's not illegal. It's kind of in the middle which basically you are not gambling, you are just betting on the result of the game which even a kid who loves the sports cheer for the team they are rooting. And the kid gets very happy when the team he supports win! It ain't illegal.




Good explanation mate and indeed , it is not gambling when you sportbet . though in this nature of forum we have looking on both as the same , sports betting and gambling but in reality it is different .

so the gambling is illegal in one place but sports betting is allowable.

but why make this an issue when we can both benefit? because both is same idea , and that is to gamble our funds wishing to increase .
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This is easily one of the weirdest topics that I have stumbled across in the gambling section of this forum. The question that op is trying to ask here is downright silly and odd.

Simple answer: Football is a sport which is obviously legal anywhere while gambling is an activity that is considered legal/illegal depending on the country. There is no direct correlation between these two basically.
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But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
If you think of football as gambling then all sports will also be considered gambling and all athletes are gamblers  Wink.
Football is sports and not gambling but a competition to grab trophy and get prizes, and if you still say football as gambling then no football athlete becomes addicted by continuing to play and lose a lot of things due to playing football, whereas gambling can be addictive.
I mean you have to consider many factors before equating activities with other activities.
I think you guys are getting it all wrong when I said gambling encompasses all the components of the game both the players and the fans benefit from the dividends of all, why are they playing for the price which the team to win is uncertain unless in the case of match-fixing but on the other way round the outcome is not known for both the player and the fans who have placed a bet on the games.

We are one in our opinion that Football cannot be categorized as gambling if you think that it is then that's your opinion I will still hold  that in a country where gambling is illegal football can be played because there is no betting platform in that country it is a sport and it is a mean to strengthen the morals and bodies of players and supporters when two teams are battling for a win it's not gambling unless there is a bet.
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But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
If you think of football as gambling then all sports will also be considered gambling and all athletes are gamblers  Wink.
Football is sports and not gambling but a competition to grab trophy and get prizes, and if you still say football as gambling then no football athlete becomes addicted by continuing to play and lose a lot of things due to playing football, whereas gambling can be addictive.
I mean you have to consider many factors before equating activities with other activities.
I think you guys are getting it all wrong when I said gambling encompasses all the components of the game both the players and the fans benefit from the dividends of all, why are they playing for the price which the team to win is uncertain unless in the case of match-fixing but on the other way round the outcome is not known for both the player and the fans who have placed a bet on the games.
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
What is gambling?
According to Wikipedia:


Remember that in some countries Only the game is allowed but not the betting meaning if there is gambling happening on those part then it is Illegal and not allowed in front of the government .

so you are asking here about in countries that allows betting but not in those countries that has illegal stand in gambling.

so don't make it complicated because it is not .
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I think although Football is one of the most sports that is used for gambling, in fact, Football is not gambling, this is a sport, and gambling is not only football.
Football is literally a sport, one type of sport. Even there are some gambling and betting of footballs, they are not official and they are hidden enough moreover in the country. Even many people are involved in football gambling, it is actually considered a "hidden activity".
if a country legalizes gambling, it means all gambling activities. We know how many types of games of gambling.
It is not about the sport or whatever is used as gambling, it is about the gambling activities themselves. And every country has its own consideration why they forbid gambling and illegal. Because most of them will consider the pros and cons of gambling itself, and cons are commonly considered more impacted.
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Football is an activity for some people in the fields which is not using any money but uses a ball to play, even if there are football competitions and the winner get a trophy, that does not gamble.
The winning team can get the prizes while the losing team does not get anything and not lose anything except their power Grin
But gambling is an activity in one place and many people who come to that place use their money to win the other money.
If one person wins, he can get the money while others lose their money.
Besides that, gambling is related to religion in some countries, so they prohibit their people from gambling because they lose money and gambling can ruin their lives.
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Comparing football to gambling games like poker,dice,crash,slots,etc. is simply wrong.
Football is just a game,but betting on football games is gambling.
I guess that by "football" you mean betting on football.You should clarify your question.
It's all about government regulation.In many countries gambling games are forbidden,while sports betting is allowed(but heavily regulated).
I don't know why you are so focused on football only.Any event,in which the outcome cannot be predicted can be used for betting/gambling.It's not just football.I guess that you just hate football and that's why you come up with football as an example. Grin
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When even you wager on the sports game result, we don't call it gambling but we call it Sports Betting. That is why it's not illegal. It's kind of in the middle which basically you are not gambling, you are just betting on the result of the game which even a kid who loves the sports cheer for the team they are rooting. And the kid gets very happy when the team he supports win! It ain't illegal.



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After reading the title of the topic and the first post of OP, I somehow thought about what OP had in mind when he wrote that football is allowed in most countries of the world.  Does anyone know any countries where football is banned?  Are there really such?  
As for the ban on gambling, there are obviously such countries and the rulers in such countries either proceed from religious beliefs, or allegedly "take care of their people" so that no one loses big money.  But this is at least understandable, but why they can ban football - is it not clear?
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But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
If you think of football as gambling then all sports will also be considered gambling and all athletes are gamblers  Wink.
Football is sports and not gambling but a competition to grab throphy and get prizes, and if you still say football as gambling then no football athlete becomes addicted by continuing to play and lose a lot of things due to playing football, whereas gambling can be addictive.
I mean you have to consider many factors before equating activities with other activities.
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Sports and gambling are two different things so we couldn't compare them. Their effect and function are different as well so we can't question the legality of the said sports and the restrictions for gambling. Each country has their own law and that's also unquestionable. Football is a traditional sports while gambling has a huge scope since it has a different role.
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.



Football is not adopted by countries for gambling purposes they are adopted for people to strengthen their body and patriotism, these gambling platforms like casinos and bookies are just using football and similar sports for their business and they can use any sports not only football but on countries that do not allow betting football is treated as a sports and not as a gambling form you have a wrong thinking and comparison.
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I'm afraid you're making a wrong comparison here. Since apple is legal, oranges should also be made legal? Is that what you're saying?

Football is a sport. It doesn't have anything to do with gambling. If people place bets on football games and events, it doesn't have anything to do with the sport. It has everything to do with gamblers. If casinos and betting sites are sponsors of certain football tournaments and teams, it does not speak whatsoever of the sport itself. It simply speaks of teams' decision and tournament management and organizers.
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I mean, they're completely two different things? Gambling is well, an entertainment activity, mostly correlated with how closely it brings most people closer to addiction (which honestly, should be blamed on the user and not the activity in this scenario), and with its negative connotation, ofc it's rather reasonable why countries would ban it. Now, as for football, it's a sport that's really enjoyed by a lot of people, a competition between skilled men, who would hate it? It's not irony, it's common sense of the society (sadly) as of now.
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Well, those tests of talent and skills in the subject of competition, football is also a gamble in its entirety, as the team competes for the ultimate price in the game and also fans can bet on those football matches these bets make the most of the revenue the football bodies make.
I clearly understood your point on this but for the sake of comparison that is why I open this thread for discussion.
that does not make football gambling. the act of playing Football itself is not gambling and just because(and I am not really sure if it is even accurate) it makes most of its revenue from bets does not make it gambling. with your logic, all sports should be considered gambling since people can bet on the matches.
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This makes more points clearer or am I missing something?

Yes, you are missing the point that everything is obvious. Football is a sport, why it should be illegal?

Gambling covers all sports, casinos, and everything related to money wagering or a bet. It's banned because of its effect and at some point, playing against money is illegal in other religions.

I can't understand why there's a comparison about the legality between a sport and gambling.
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these are two completely different stuffs.
Gambling can lead to addiction that can be seriously dangerous for a player, as we have discussed a lot of time
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381018.0;topicseen
Football has not these bad effects...ok you can broke a leg, but generally has not a bad effect on your pshyco.

I am really curious to know in which country football is prohibited ....
Well it depends on the country because some countries, prohibit football and it citizens are not allowed to even watch football, despite this football is the most celebrated sports and this have given it priority over other gambling games.
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I'm not the only one who thinks that there is something wrong with the post, if all sports like football are gambling then all that we do in life is gambling and can turn into a betting event like a cooking show people will bet if the chef will satisfy the taster decision or a voting where people can bet who will vote for the next president, your point is vague you are just the only one with an imaginative mind and attach sports and gambling in the same category, gambling platform just uses sports on their platform for people to bet.

From what I understand is he didn't say sport is gambling but sports like football are the most popular gambling markets in the world and in some countries it is legal and some illegal I think that's the main question , some people have said that religious, cultural rules are one of the reasons why gambling is banned there is also a reason to avoid going bankrupt and it all makes sense.
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I'm not the only one who thinks that there is something wrong with the post, if all sports like football are gambling then all that we do in life is gambling and can turn into a betting event like a cooking show people will bet if the chef will satisfy the taster decision or a voting where people can bet who will vote for the next president, your point is vague you are just the only one with an imaginative mind and attach sports and gambling in the same category, gambling platform just uses sports on their platform for people to bet.
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
What is gambling?
According to Wikipedia:

This makes more points clearer or am I missing something?

As far as I know in some countries are 2 types of gambling, that are closely monitored and not closely monitored...

Sports betting is one of the oldest gambling in the world and it was done several hundred years ago, long before slots appeared. Besides that, sports have competitions, so gambling in them is not prohibited, except cheating such as match-fixing.
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
You are talking about two completely different topics, the fact that soccer is the most popular sport all over the world has nothing to do with gambling at all as they are two completely different activities, now answering your question about why gambling is illegal in some countries, in many cases this has to do with some kind of religious or moral code that politicians have which forbids gambling, they do so to try to protect those that could become addicted to gambling, not realizing they are not really protecting anyone as those people will get addicted anyway while they block an industry that could create a lot of jobs and bring revenue to the government in the form of taxes.
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...But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.

What baffles me is how you found irony in there. You must be a hardcore gambler that you view sports competition as an opportunity to bet. It' true that it's the most popular sport and probably the most bet on but Governments are not inclined to legalize something based on those criteria.

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gambling in some countries is not allowed because many lose and go bankrupt in betting ,the sport of football is a place to win titles and trophies ! why the government legalizes sports because it is the title that can bring a great name to a country ,so sport is not there for gambling and gambling is also not all inclusive of sports
^ That could be the point of view in most countries that prohibited gambling, when it comes to financial matters, governments are very allergic and they want to control it to their people. Probably the reason could be bankruptcy in most people if many of them involve gambling and if there is no limit, many people would suffer, many of them will commit a crime just to sustain gambling. Sports could be good for them without gambling but as for us, it is good to watch sports waiting for the result while gambling. So, very lucky for those countries that did not prohibit gambling activity in sports activities.
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The thread doesn't make sense. Football and gambling can't be tied together or it can't be considered to be the same. Football is a sports, people can watch it and enjoy supporting their own country team, club team or some other team of their choice. Here there is no money involved, so that it won't lead to any harm.

With gambling on the same football, some will win whereas some will end up losing. As money is involved, this could cause life risks, and financial risks. This at times even make the players corrupt and play for money. Why to ruin a sports and the people's money in the name of gambling. This is the prime reason why countries support games and doesn't support gambling on the same game.
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it's all gambling because the teams are playing for the price.
So can we say, a group singing contest (choir/orchestra) a gambling too since these people are singing for the price? So do a dance competition? Come on! You're out of context I think and the way you see it is somehow wrong. Take it as a competition on talent and skills and not just it's always plain gambling insight.

Well, those tests of talent and skills in the subject of competition, football is also a gamble in its entirety, as the team competes for the ultimate price in the game and also fans can bet on those football matches these bets make the most of the revenue the football bodies make.
I clearly understood your point on this but for the sake of comparison that is why I open this thread for discussion.
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it's all gambling because the teams are playing for the price.
So can we say, a group singing contest (choir/orchestra) a gambling too since these people are singing for the price? So do a dance competition? Come on! You're out of context I think and the way you see it is somehow wrong. Take it as a competition on talent and skills and not just it's always plain gambling in sight.
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I think the main factors might be due to its addictive effect and the terms of the major religion in those countries prohibit people to gamble which generally lead the government to apply similar terms to prevent the citizen from gambling activities, such as what happened in my country xD.
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gambling in some countries is not allowed because many lose and go bankrupt in betting ,the sport of football is a place to win titles and trophies ! why the government legalizes sports because it is the title that can bring a great name to a country ,so sport is not there for gambling and gambling is also not all inclusive of sports
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
What is gambling?
According to Wikipedia:
This makes more points clearer or am I missing something?

You're missing everything and it is a garbage comparison. Football itself is a competition between two teams, often participating in a larger league, to determine through physical power and skillful teamwork who is the better side. Football is a sport, built around athleticism and it would still exist even if all gambling was magically removed from the world tomorrow. You're trying to insinuate that football requires sports betting, when it is exactly the other way around - sports betting can only exist because sports exist. Nobody who is sane is going to outlaw physical activities which help to keep people fit and healthy, but gambling arguably does little to benefit society.
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I don't see the connection between gambling and football either. You should see that as 2 independent objects. You can bet on football, but without gambling football is just its own element. We have here the terms sports and gambling, 2 completely different elements. Besides, football can also be american football but also football. Little confusing but most people think its soccer.

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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
Not totally legal because there are still countries where sports gambling is illegal and that includes football. Same goes to gambling. Gambling is compose of different games and sports. There are countries that bans gambling or only bans specific games and there is a reason for that, just do not ask and follow it although banning of gambling usually happens locally or offline.

On the other hand there are lesser restrictions when playing gambling online, you can visit different gambling sites to see if they allow your country or if they allow this type of game. There are also bypasses that you can use to be able to access them even if they already restricted you.
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Football being a game for all ages is the sports side of it which is good for recreational purposes but when you talk about competition and tournament where the team is playing for the price and fans are interested in the wining of the bets, that's the angle am looking at it from taking Fifa, UEFA Champions League, and other local and international football competitions, for example, it's all gambling because the teams are playing for the price.

You should differentiate between competing for prize and gambling for money.
If you consider such football competition as gambling because they are competing for trophy and prize (I would say reward), means that all competition where the participants are competing to each other = gambling.
Would you say Math Olympic, Talent competition such as X-factor, etc as a gambling too because they perform for the prize?
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would you mind elaborating when you said "the highest gambling around"? are you saying that because football is a gamble because of the uncertain outcome of who is gonna win? I am really confused as to why you are comparing Football(which is a sport) and gambling.
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The truth is, there aren't that many countries where sports betting is forbidden. From what I know, only about a dozen countries restrict sports betting to the fullest extent. These countries include: Afghanistan, Algeria, Cambodia, Cyprus, Indonesia, Cayman Islands, North Korea, Pakistan, Singapore, UAE, and Vatican City. There are various reasons why these countries have explicitly banned gambling activities by law. In some of them, it is considered sinful and forbidden due to religious reasons, whereas others have an implied morality to consider. A second reason countries choose to make sports betting illegal is because they cannot track all money transactions so they fear losing large amounts in tax revenue.
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Because football is sport just like other sport e.g. American football, boxing, basketball, tennis etc. Technically to play football doesn't need any money except buy a ball, why playing football should be prohibited? Does it harm anyone? I don't think so.

While gambling is betting, mostly it's prohibited due to religions and addictions. I can't say to much about religions, while addictions there're a lot people who got addicted become worst day by day since he want to recover his loss but ended rekt.

This is the important point the government has considered from various sides so decided to ban it , if indeed this activity is more profitable for gamblers
the government will not prohibit it but the fact is the opposite more loss than gain. in some areas the government provides a special place for gambling and most are casinos not sports betting.
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Well in general sports-bet have spread as something so trivial that there is a tendency to think that any game (football) is to go look for the odds and put the money. BUT in any event your solution is simple, if you can not bet then respect you country's laws.

There is no correlation between the laws that have to approve sports betting for the simple fact of being football a sport.
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Because football is sport just like other sport e.g. American football, boxing, basketball, tennis etc. Technically to play football doesn't need any money except buy a ball, why playing football should be prohibited? Does it harm anyone? I don't think so.

While gambling is betting, mostly it's prohibited due to religions and addictions. I can't say to much about religions, while addictions there're a lot people who got addicted become worst day by day since he want to recover his loss but ended rekt.
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Football is one of the popular sports among the other sports and many people know that. So the government and the organizers allow football to have a special for their audience because that can attract many football lovers to watch.

But I wonder why football is the highest gambling around the world. Is that because of the popularity? Or is that because many countries have a live show for the special events for football? But football is not gambling as the coach will manage strategy by placing the right player on his team so his chance to win will increase.
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The first thing we need to say is that football is a sport where they don't just bet on clubs. There are countries they represent to give the players a reputation as the pride of their country. Another difference is the nature of gambling itself, which means that games in casinos that do not belong to the category of sports are considered as individual interests and do not involve or act on behalf of institutions, companies and even certain countries.
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Football is not the most widely wagered on and gambled upon.In fact slot machines and lately dice are the most widely played games,sure football is the most wagered sport that people gamble on but not the highest wagered game of all of them.It has nothing to do with gambling,football is a normal sport that every body loves it (well most people in the world like it but not every one) and is cheered in stadiums.In fact today I will go to see my team in the cup in the country I live in now and enjoy the game without betting on my team.

Countries which prohibit gambling,prohibit all kind of gambling and not only sport betting but they do not prohibit sports which is different and what you ask is not related to each other as you are wrongly supposing here.
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Both are totally two different things you are talking about. Football is a sport for entertainment while gambling is something else. These both doesn't depend on one to another. You can gamble with other sports if you don't gamble with football. Football will still be there if gamble isn?t. Therefore, I guess your point has no sense/point.
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Football is a game which big or small can play that doesn't have any effect. If gambling should be legal it will affect the young people coming up that is why gambling is restricted in many countries.  There can be a reason though.
Football being a game for all ages is the sports side of it which is good for recreational purposes but when you talk about competition and tournament where the team is playing for the price and fans are interested in the wining of the bets, that's the angle am looking at it from taking Fifa, UEFA Champions League, and other local and international football competitions, for example, it's all gambling because the teams are playing for the price.
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meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
The reason is simple (the basis of religious evidence that makes gambling prohibited), in some countries, although, followers of certain religions are football lovers in general, for example: football lovers in Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc.

That's why gambling in certain countries is prohibited, even the majority of the population/government in that country football is included in the legal of the country, even though gambling is prohibited, I bet they are also involved in gambling secretly, you will understand what I mean.

So, in this topic question, i think gambling and football should be separated, the problem is very much different, even though people really like soccer betting.
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I fail to see the link. Gambling is about staking money on a prediction, it can be anything and there are many countries and even religions or philosophical schools that would advise against such an activity. Playing a sport just for fun does not qualify as such at all, it is just a competition that can be played to prove and increase your skills and enjoy a peaceful time with others (not talking about professional).

To be honest, in those countries in which betting is not allowed, I would ask if investing in the stock exchange is allowed. You can use that as a gambling platform.
I also can't figure out how it will link football very much the in the same category of gambling, you can have football in a country where gambling is illegal, but you cannot gamble in a country where football is popular but gambling is illegal, or you can have both, football is a physical sport and government encourage them for their people to become healthy through sports, it became popular on gambling platform because of the two teams competing, and you can introduce betting in a spider game, I don't see the similarity, OP is very imaginative having it in the same category.  
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
What is gambling?
According to Wikipedia:
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This makes more points clearer or am I missing something?



I think it is related to the risks that each gambler is exposed to. If you are simply watching a football game, you don't have risks (we don't take into consideration the risks of the heart attack that you can have when your favorite team is losing:)). But if you are betting on a match, you are exposed to risks.
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I fail to see the link. Gambling is about staking money on a prediction, it can be anything and there are many countries and even religions or philosophical schools that would advise against such an activity. Playing a sport just for fun does not qualify as such at all, it is just a competition that can be played to prove and increase your skills and enjoy a peaceful time with others (not talking about professional).

To be honest, in those countries in which betting is not allowed, I would ask if investing in the stock exchange is allowed. You can use that as a gambling platform.
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Football is not a gambling but according to the description the winner is uncertain and it was a good opportunity to have a bet on it, I don't think it is prohibited but just strict after all gambling is one of the highest income of the government. What the government is to have a legal operating gambling service and some prohibits others since it is under their law or jurisdiction. 
I’ll also add that I can’t imagine that someone became a gamer, lost all family property, or even committed suicide from a passion for football.  Unfortunately for gamers who are born gambling is not such a rarity.  And many suffering relatives because of one such gamer.  This is where governments come in, which respectively prohibit or allow gambling. 
And in many countries there are completely different policies in relation to gambling and regulation of this type of profitable business. 
Well, football - what should be regulated here? 
Nothing but the violent behavior of football fans.  Smiley And even then this is the case of the police at the venue of the matches.
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Football is not a gambling but according to the description the winner is uncertain and it was a good opportunity to have a bet on it, I don't think it is prohibited but just strict after all gambling is one of the highest income of the government. What the government is to have a legal operating gambling service and some prohibits others since it is under their law or jurisdiction. 
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I have no idea why you can say that football is the highest gambling around while it is a type of sports. Is it because sports betting contains so many football markets? Imo football and gambling are two big different thing and we cant compare them in terms of its legality. Money and risk are indeed involved in football and any other sports but it cant be considered as gambling. I would say football these days is combination of sports and business instead of gambling.
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.

This makes more points clearer or am I missing something?

Plain common sense, football is a sport where team battles for excellent teamwork and perseverance, and fans attach their feelings to a team as a  sign of loyalty and fulfillment of human passion of sense of belonging, they just attach gambling to sports because it's part of human interest to bet as a show of confidence to the team they are supporting, football can exist without gambling if a country doesn't allow it.
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That is because football is one of the sports, while gambling is prohibited or allowed will depend on each country's laws. If your country allows gambling, people can bet on football but vice versa. It is related to the regulations from the country but we know that many countries have underground gambling bases which allow people to gamble on every sport they want. This activity is hidden from the government, regulators, or even police, but they will find it if they can dig in many places.

Gambling itself means you use the money to choose one thing that will become the winner. But sometimes, you can predict the score accurately and those who can predict with the right are the winner.
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
What is gambling?
According to Wikipedia:

This makes more points clearer or am I missing something?

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