This is the result of the voting
Can you gamble without the adrenaline and the dopamine
Yes - 4 (25%)
No - 9 (56.3%)
Sometimes - 3 (18.8%)
Total Voters: 16
And I thought the majority would vote no. Well, maybe because every gambler is different with each other; some play for money, some play for fun, some play just to play, whatever the reason you are playing, the main goal should be to play within our means and play with money that you can afford to lose
With or without dopamine and adrenaline, you gotta keep yourself safe.
Topic: If Gambling Cannot Excite You How Do You Play It? (Read 461 times)
I think it is still possible to gamble at any casino whether online or offline even without the so-called dopamine or adrenaline rush, because there are some who just play for fun
and no other reason.
Then there are others to pass the time or to relieve the stress problems they are facing. It can also depend on the reason of the gamblers. Maybe there are some gamblers who apply it when they are in a good mood to gamble and they are very positive that they will win a big amount, right?
and no other reason.
Then there are others to pass the time or to relieve the stress problems they are facing. It can also depend on the reason of the gamblers. Maybe there are some gamblers who apply it when they are in a good mood to gamble and they are very positive that they will win a big amount, right?
The topic should interest me. It is either big tournaments like world cup and champions league, or it is politics. I don’t like to bet on luck based games because all them are basically dice games wearing a different color dress.
But betting on your favorite team or politician creates some heat and it sometimes raises my adrenaline levels when I get in debates but not always because later on I learned to ignore what other people think. It is all under my control nowadays.
So the answer is not a straight yes or no. It is in a gray area.
But betting on your favorite team or politician creates some heat and it sometimes raises my adrenaline levels when I get in debates but not always because later on I learned to ignore what other people think. It is all under my control nowadays.
So the answer is not a straight yes or no. It is in a gray area.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Hmm i dont know freen i also had same question : If Gambling Cannot Excite You How Do You Play It?
I mean when you gambling i believe there is always dopamine or atleast fear to lose you cant do gamble emotion less in my opinion.
When you win or lose it is easy that adrenaline filled up your body quickly, i used to play dice and my heart sometime beat fast when i hit win streak
The op @memehunter in the said thread only made a postulation about two different gambling dichotomy based on the supposed perceived results he thinks can be achieved in the different direction, which made sense to me after reading it.
Gamblers that expresses both the feeling of adrenaline, dopamine and research/skill development while gambling are those gamblers that doesn't take the activity as anything more orbless of an income source but are just cool with whatever results that surface while they tend to gamble responsibly. I don't know about addicted gamblers as I haven't been there!
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Emphatic YES! It's weigh much possible to gamble without the release of the dopamine and the adrenaline. This isn't anything to debate on because those that called themselves professional gamblers or that mean real business with gambling (as a means of income) can relate to this perfectly. They can calmly subdue any form of excitement and lend serious concentration to the business of the day only to express excitement feeling (adrenaline or dopamine) when all is over and ending in their favour. I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Gamblers that expresses both the feeling of adrenaline, dopamine and research/skill development while gambling are those gamblers that doesn't take the activity as anything more orbless of an income source but are just cool with whatever results that surface while they tend to gamble responsibly. I don't know about addicted gamblers as I haven't been there!
I created this thread because of this discussion.
Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.
This thread is not to make this discussion bad, not my intention, brothers and sisters
OP created this chart; I'll only post the part of the chart in question. OP did not present a study or an article to back up the chart he created since he mentioned that it was just a potential.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
no matter how smart we might tend to be, we can not deny the fact that we don't gamble without dopamine and adrenaline. this are the things that excites us in gambling but we can apply with wisdom to not get addicted to it. not getting addicted is just a matter of being self discipline. all we just need is to be smart and skillful making research and working with past result a results and summing them up and getting a more reliable outcome. but though it is not that easy to win despite the fact that we work with skill, gambling still remains a game of luck. Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.
This thread is not to make this discussion bad, not my intention, brothers and sisters
OP created this chart; I'll only post the part of the chart in question. OP did not present a study or an article to back up the chart he created since he mentioned that it was just a potential.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
So when you feel you become more excited, you should get away from gambling before that feeling makes you stay longer and you will difficult to stop playing gambling.
Well thats make sense having self control is a good discipline. However theres no such reason if theres no excitement in playing gambling right? Thats why some played due to the potential chance to win and that goes with excitement. Its impossible for someone not to exhibit an enormous feeling towards the game either its a winning moment or a losing streak. 
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Hmm no? I mean I can start gambling without feeling anything but the rush of winning (mostly losing really) money just gets your engine cranking imo to the point that even if you don't want to, you WILL get your emotions hyped up. Doesn't matter if its winning or losing, as long as it's gambling it's going to get your engine revving up all of a sudden. What the OP who posted the chart mostly meant was an overall view of sorts? I mean you don't really decide what you do for your entire life when you're all revved up by dopamine the day before, so kind of two different things. Especially agree in crash lol. Just can't stop the hype there!
I guess so if you can reduce your intension of gambling and just want to fills your free time. You come to casino not because you want to wins but you just want too. You don't have a reason why you come to casino and only want to play some gambling games and just go home. It is normal if when you gambling, you still feels the dopamine and adrenaline because our feeling and emotion can change anytime. So when you feel you become more excited, you should get away from gambling before that feeling makes you stay longer and you will difficult to stop playing gambling.
You are making a point here, of one gambles at the initial start of a game without any feelings or so and without any thoughts on their mind it is alright but at a point When it becomes obvious that they start to have a thought of the winning and winning or vice versa, they should take a break from gambling that moment so they do not get carried away and find it difficult to stop playing because of the excitement they have started to develop as a result of the game they are or have been playing on the casino. So reducing intentions of gambling would help save one the stress of wanting to gamble more as a result of the results they get be it a positive or a negative result depending as the case may be.
I guess so if you can reduce your intension of gambling and just want to fills your free time. You come to casino not because you want to wins but you just want too. You don't have a reason why you come to casino and only want to play some gambling games and just go home. It is normal if when you gambling, you still feels the dopamine and adrenaline because our feeling and emotion can change anytime. So when you feel you become more excited, you should get away from gambling before that feeling makes you stay longer and you will difficult to stop playing gambling.
People take gambling into a different forms of it, others would like to seek fun and entertainment so they play whatever they want and if they win they win if they lose its okay but sometimes emotions make them carried away and this time revenge with the casino is one of the common they would like to take their money back again and said just to get back their losses but ended up they lose more what they have, in playing gambling you can use your skills or your emotions but doing in a conscious way, you'd rather choose to leave once you lose already self control is a must you don't need to waste all of your money in just a single day or single mistake there's another day. I do with the +EV reason I choose playing sports bet because I know I'm good with it and also make a risk to the team i know i can trust still its a sports game anything can happen but with the lessen risk than taking slot games. Once I won settled the event and make next day play.
Whatever your approach to gambling, the most important thing is to keep your pocket and your mind safe.
That is why I want to remind all gamblers to be responsible enough and think twice before making decisions. Always remember that gambling won’t make us rich, nor will it give us a stable income. Yes, we might win now and then, but it has never been said that this is a way to a better life. It is better to know our position rather than expecting too much.
I created this thread because of this discussion.
Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.
This thread is not to make this discussion bad, not my intention, brothers and sisters
OP created this chart; I'll only post the part of the chart in question. OP did not present a study or an article to back up the chart he created since he mentioned that it was just a potential.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.
This thread is not to make this discussion bad, not my intention, brothers and sisters
OP created this chart; I'll only post the part of the chart in question. OP did not present a study or an article to back up the chart he created since he mentioned that it was just a potential.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Apparently no you can not gamble without them because whenever someone is gambling there mindset is always set to that particular gamble whether for fun or for profit and this mindset is the collection of some organ, system etc or if not all... of the body and sometimes when playing this crash your mind and some parts of your body will be under pressure and sometimes the heart will be beating so fast and if someone mistakenly used what he or she can not afford to lose he or she will be so sad and in regret and sometimes this can cause depression and sometimes makes us transfer aggression which is not good so it is advisable to use what one can afford to let go in case of something like this.
It is possible, but I think it is difficult to consider it an enjoyable hobby. We all play precisely for the reward factor and the dopamine, otherwise there would be no point in playing just for the sake of playing. It would be like a person without feelings, empty and as a consequence, would soon abandon gambling... dopamine and emotion are the fuel for betting, it is not possible to continue playing without them.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
For me, no, if you play and not getting excited and there are no rush, then it's better to stop it. I think it's critical before you play, because there are days that you are really eager to play and believed in yourself that you are luck and could potentially win big. So that' where the dopamine and adrenaline enter, before at the start of the game and it will remain throughout after.
But at the start you don't feel nothing, then it's not gambling per se. I mean how can you enjoy and have some fun if you don't have that kind emotions?
I haven't experience it though, want I gone through is that after that adrenaline rush, I'm feeling down with no energy. Specially if I played in land base casinos, when I go home, I feel very hungry and down at the same time, as if I was in a low blood.
People have different reasons for engaging in gambling and their reasons determines the levels of dopamine. A person that gambles for the thrill of it, to have fun and experience the excitement of staking their money is not desperate to win. There are people who gamble as a means to get rich quick, these category of gamblers don't engage in it to increase their dopamine, infact they don't care about gambling to have fun. People who enjoy gambling as a recreation to enjoy themselves are mainly those that don't engage in it to get rich. I know people who gamble everyday, not because they see gambling as fun but because they're desperate to win.
People always produce dopamine when they experience something pleasant, not as a result. Therefore, those who become addicted to gambling want to get as much dopamine as possible, and the process of the game itself is important to them, no matter how the game ends. Any activity that brings pleasure to a person will be supplemented by the release of dopamine, and therefore we call it either a hobby or a passion. However, those who place bets from time to time do not necessarily experience a sense of satisfaction. The game does not always end with the desired result, but to have a desire to gamble more often, it is necessary to have an example of winning. The feeling or understanding of victory becomes memorable, something that you want to repeat very frequently.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
How does it feel to play without excitement? Is it possible to have sex without desire or arousal? Gambling is not a job, or some kind of routine activity. By the way, a lot of things in a person's life depend on luck, even a person's fate can change by chance. So gambling is a concentrate of chance, luck or bad luck, in a way it is a simplified model of fate. Playing them without excitement is the same as living without desire, like a person in a catatonic stupor.
However, this is purely my subjective opinion. I do not exclude that there are non-gambling "gamblers-accountants" who treat gambling in a completely different way.
I guess I can't gamble if I don't get dopamine and adrenaline. A good example of such a game is gambling on a demo account. Since there are no risks and rewards the game stops being interesting after 10 minutes. Frankly, I do not understand those who can play gambling on a demo account. The only option in my opinion gambling without money is with gambling with friends. In such a game as money is a reputation. Perhaps because of this game allows you to get adrenaline and dopamine, but of course not in such quantity as when gambling for money.
Dopamine just creates a kind of reflection in the brain of the temporary feeling of gambling, where if you win a gambling bet, dopamine will create a feeling of pleasure in the brain in a physiological process, and it will be temporary. Even if defeated again, dopamine will create a kind of sad feeling in the brain and that too will be temporary. Dopamine will signal your gambling feelings to the brain only for a short period of time but it will not have any lasting effects on your brain.
It turns out that a player can simply entertain himself with gambling if he is bored. I use gambling for this purpose and do not have any illusions about huge winnings, although of course I will be happy if I am lucky. I just realized that we should never be upset when we lose, because losing is part of the process and the game, I learned to perceive it as a natural thing. Perhaps if most players understood this, they would not try to win back their last money to the last penny.However, we are just only humans and it is just normal reaction to get excited if there is money involved in the process. It is like innate nature of wanting to achieve something to gain some type of reward from what you are doing. So it is understandable that we will release dopamine and adrenaline, win or lose. Unless, you have no emotions at all, which we are not as we are not robots.
So far, voting results show 8 for no and 2 for yes. Checking online for articles about the topic, yes, you can play without an adrenaline rush if you are a conservative gambler based on AI as shown by Google search
And dopamine will always be part of your gambling experience because of the excitement produced by dopamine
https://www.responsiblegambling.org/for-the-public/about-gambling/the-science-behind-gambling/
Whatever your approach to gambling, the most important thing is to keep your pocket and your mind safe.
And dopamine will always be part of your gambling experience because of the excitement produced by dopamine
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When you gamble, your brain releases dopamine, the feel-good neurotransmitter that makes you feel excited. You’d expect to only feel excited when you win, but your body produces this neurological response even when you lose.
https://www.responsiblegambling.org/for-the-public/about-gambling/the-science-behind-gambling/
Whatever your approach to gambling, the most important thing is to keep your pocket and your mind safe.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
It's possible when your thoughts are focused in another matters, so you don't feel the excitement for gambling. Your body is there, your fingers are clicking the roll button, but your emotions are attached to something else. It's like when someone is talking to you, but you aren't listening at all, because you are worried about another subject in your mind. You aren't enjoying the moment, so there isn't dopamine and adrenaline going on there. Maybe there are people who try to control their excitement and push it down. Or maybe they don’t really feel any at all. If someone is gambling for profit I would assume they aren’t playing for excitement. Personally, I can’t do it. It’s natural to feel excited when you think you are about to win and you get even more excited when you do indeed win at the end.
Thats not human at all if ever theres someone like that. Everyone cant supress such emotions especially if we are talking about gambling. I remember that I got a friend he is so addict on playing gambling games on app and he is spending half of his monthly salary already for a day just to play. I asked him if his not nervous to lose, of course he is he said but he is becoming immune to some of his losses. 
For casino games, it will actually be really difficult to gamble on such games without an adrenaline rush or a dopamine pump. But whe5it has to do with the usual games, such as the sports games, you can actually gamble on them without having all of that running through you, you just have to take your time.e and make calculated decisions and not impulsive ones but with casino it's hard not to at any point make impulsive decisions and moves.
I guess it depends on the situation since there are times that we just really need to pump up and need to heat up playing then everything will fall according to what we like to do.
But not every time like this since I agree to other people said no to it since its really crazy feeling to gamble when you are out of shape since the heavy feeling might bring bad luck that's why its not advisable sometimes to gamble if you don't feel to do it. So much better we gamble only if we feel excited and have certain guts to gamble so that we can focus on what we do and can think about other things that provably beneficial to us.
Definitely YES! if you try to bet in a professional style you can't have such emotions like happy/unhappy after an outcome.
well, of course if you win you are happy, but this should not change your gambling behaviour. thats all.
I often call this method of gambling "financial gambling style" were you don't care about your team or what'else but only on profit and achieve advantages.
But those who are gambling (most of them) can not control their gambling behavior if they could control their gambling behavior then they would not be losers in the name of recovering from loss too fast. Those who try to recover the lost funds too fast become more and more losers. well, of course if you win you are happy, but this should not change your gambling behaviour. thats all.
I often call this method of gambling "financial gambling style" were you don't care about your team or what'else but only on profit and achieve advantages.
For casino games, it will actually be really difficult to gamble on such games without an adrenaline rush or a dopamine pump. But whe5it has to do with the usual games, such as the sports games, you can actually gamble on them without having all of that running through you, you just have to take your time.e and make calculated decisions and not impulsive ones but with casino it's hard not to at any point make impulsive decisions and moves.
I created this thread because of this discussion.
Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.
This thread is not to make this discussion bad, not my intention, brothers and sisters
OP created this chart; I'll only post the part of the chart in question. OP did not present a study or an article to back up the chart he created since he mentioned that it was just a potential.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.
This thread is not to make this discussion bad, not my intention, brothers and sisters
OP created this chart; I'll only post the part of the chart in question. OP did not present a study or an article to back up the chart he created since he mentioned that it was just a potential.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Everybody has their own will to do gambling, using substances like those you mentioned could trigger emotional changes; well of course that will cause excitement when playing. However, if there's no presence of those dopamine and adrenaline chemicals we still can experience the excitement by means of playing that game that could give us fun experience as well as monetary benefits. Somehow, winning experience is the essential thing that will ultimately provide the best gambling experience same with other players.
Gambling usually depends on a professional person increasing such action, there can be no emotion in it like a person losing money or winning after the results are revealed. A regular gambler does not change his behavior if he loses, whereas if a gambler is thinking about money, he will not think about anything else.
Because there are profits and losses in gambling, the outcome of gambling can be determined at any time, so there is no possibility for the gambler to panic.
Because there are profits and losses in gambling, the outcome of gambling can be determined at any time, so there is no possibility for the gambler to panic.
Those substance in our body might not be present and we can still be able to gamble. That's actually the reality on it but that adds excitement to us whenever we gamble so that becomes part of the process. But even without it, I am sure that we can gamble still so it depends on how do you check yourselves out when you gamble and whenever you're excited to do it. Even with experts, probably they'd say that it's very likely that even those things aren't present if it's just about doing an activity like gambling.
Can you share the complete image of the flow chart? I’m interested to try his system if this will work when I follow step by step procedure. 
the thread is linked mate you can check it thereQuote
Thinking about losing your money alone can raise your adrenaline.
when someone is in danger or scared they might feel a spike of adrenaline and could make decisions that are risky and dangerous just to chase some losses or prevent losses 
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
Gambling without any form of excitement may actually be you forcing yourself to gamble, and there are many gamblers these days that are forcing themselves to gamble because they gamble at times without any form of excitement at times when they don't feel like it. Any gambler who is gambling at a time when they think that they should not be gambling because there's no excitement but can't control themselves is already exhibiting signs of addiction, which can be characterized by a lack of self-control. 
Maybe there are people who try to control their excitement and push it down. Or maybe they don’t really feel any at all. If someone is gambling for profit I would assume they aren’t playing for excitement. Personally, I can’t do it. It’s natural to feel excited when you think you are about to win and you get even more excited when you do indeed win at the end.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Well I don't think it's possible to gamble without dopamine and also serotonin has alot effects in triggering your happy state,usually when one gambles they expect to enjoy the moment to the fullest but aside the excitement derived if they can generate funds from they strive to do better so it ain't possible to gamble without your hormones especially dopamine. And one thing you ought to bear in mind in taking your time when you decide to play.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
This is the life of a gambler. I don’t think there is something we can change.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
if you can’t feel excited while playing you must be a robot then but i think what op probably is referring to is how we handle the adrenaline and dopamine or rather how we let it affect us adrenaline should not be used to make decisions when gambling because you are most likely to lose big money I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Dopamine just creates a kind of reflection in the brain of the temporary feeling of gambling, where if you win a gambling bet, dopamine will create a feeling of pleasure in the brain in a physiological process, and it will be temporary. Even if defeated again, dopamine will create a kind of sad feeling in the brain and that too will be temporary. Dopamine will signal your gambling feelings to the brain only for a short period of time but it will not have any lasting effects on your brain.
It turns out that a player can simply entertain himself with gambling if he is bored. I use gambling for this purpose and do not have any illusions about huge winnings, although of course I will be happy if I am lucky. I just realized that we should never be upset when we lose, because losing is part of the process and the game, I learned to perceive it as a natural thing. Perhaps if most players understood this, they would not try to win back their last money to the last penny.However, we are just only humans and it is just normal reaction to get excited if there is money involved in the process. It is like innate nature of wanting to achieve something to gain some type of reward from what you are doing. So it is understandable that we will release dopamine and adrenaline, win or lose. Unless, you have no emotions at all, which we are not as we are not robots.
Dopamine just creates a kind of reflection in the brain of the temporary feeling of gambling, where if you win a gambling bet, dopamine will create a feeling of pleasure in the brain in a physiological process, and it will be temporary. Even if defeated again, dopamine will create a kind of sad feeling in the brain and that too will be temporary. Dopamine will signal your gambling feelings to the brain only for a short period of time but it will not have any lasting effects on your brain.
It turns out that a player can simply entertain himself with gambling if he is bored. I use gambling for this purpose and do not have any illusions about huge winnings, although of course I will be happy if I am lucky. I just realized that we should never be upset when we lose, because losing is part of the process and the game, I learned to perceive it as a natural thing. Perhaps if most players understood this, they would not try to win back their last money to the last penny.Gambling for fun is what ought to be but it is somehow turned into gambling for profit by some gamblers one thing I think we should know is that in games played, there must be a loser and a winner and the outcome ought to be accepted the way it is for fairness. These are the more reasons we should gamble for fun because we never can tell who will win or who will lose a game, but there must definitely be an end result from the event. Gambling is for fun and if winning, it should be seen as a plus or benefit added to the steps taken to play the game. It is all for fun and this is the reasons why we are advised to gamble for fun and with funds we can afford to lose.
Can you share the complete image of the flow chart? I’m interested to try his system if this will work when I follow step by step procedure.
Here is the link to the topic - Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.Quote
Anyway Dopamine and Adrenaline is always there whenever I’m gambling since that’s what I feel when I’m winning or losing big time. Not feeling anything while gambling means your mind is occupied by other things or simply you don’t want to gamble.
I agree. I will only be a robot that don't have this dopamine and adrenaline rush. A person has experienced a sad event like the death of a parent and rushes to gamble will not be feeling an excitement what he is looking for at that time is something to make him forget about the experience which is not easy to suppress.Those who take up gambling as a source of income do not feel excited by it. It is work to them and nobody gets excited about working.
Dopamine just creates a kind of reflection in the brain of the temporary feeling of gambling, where if you win a gambling bet, dopamine will create a feeling of pleasure in the brain in a physiological process, and it will be temporary. Even if defeated again, dopamine will create a kind of sad feeling in the brain and that too will be temporary. Dopamine will signal your gambling feelings to the brain only for a short period of time but it will not have any lasting effects on your brain.
It turns out that a player can simply entertain himself with gambling if he is bored. I use gambling for this purpose and do not have any illusions about huge winnings, although of course I will be happy if I am lucky. I just realized that we should never be upset when we lose, because losing is part of the process and the game, I learned to perceive it as a natural thing. Perhaps if most players understood this, they would not try to win back their last money to the last penny. 
If gambling isn't exciting you then you need to stop, entertainment is why we gamble, if money is all you want then you are on your own, I gamble only when i feel the need to do so, if I want to make money I can trade or just mine crypto, there are many other ways, but gambling is not a source of income to me, choose your choice.
Before you judge me, just know that I have learn a lot from gambling, I've learnt that I don't need to rely on gambling as my source of income, I just need to do it when I miss gambling, I like games like roulette and slots but I don't gamble unless I really feel like gambling, yes I do need money to gamble and there is a part of me that want to at least earn back what I lost too but gambling is too risky.
Before you judge me, just know that I have learn a lot from gambling, I've learnt that I don't need to rely on gambling as my source of income, I just need to do it when I miss gambling, I like games like roulette and slots but I don't gamble unless I really feel like gambling, yes I do need money to gamble and there is a part of me that want to at least earn back what I lost too but gambling is too risky.
Dopamine just creates a kind of reflection in the brain of the temporary feeling of gambling, where if you win a gambling bet, dopamine will create a feeling of pleasure in the brain in a physiological process, and it will be temporary. Even if defeated again, dopamine will create a kind of sad feeling in the brain and that too will be temporary. Dopamine will signal your gambling feelings to the brain only for a short period of time but it will not have any lasting effects on your brain.
For sport betting I must say not everyone but to get excited rather they bet due to their income to receive from the game, if you watch vividly or correctly you will know that there are some people who bet on games that they don't watch and you know betting on game you are watching shows that you are having the fun or being excited. But when you are not watching the game you only stake the bet it shows that you are not having fun rather gambling to make profit and this increases your dopamine and adrenaline because there are so much financial values attached to it.
Individual bettors chose what they want whether to either watch already placed bet match and I believe this individuals has a reason for what they do, I understand that there are some people that doesn't withstand pressure of losing or there bet not coming as they placed it, this set of persons are strictly after there returns as they play it but forgetting that as a bettor it's required of you to add a bit fun to your gambling activities in other not not get pissed when the unexpected happens, though I must be sincere I was doing this before but later I realize that I can't deprive myself the happiness that comes with watching match even though my bet is involved. I think why this so called adrenaline and dopamine which is anxiety hormone rise is because some bettors misolace priority when betting, they focus too much on the possible returns from their bet but failing to understand that as a bettor you must engage in activity that excite you in other to lesen your anxiety level if you have already placed bet.
I don’t know how anyone would play and lose or win without feeling anything; even if you try hard to hide it or convince yourself that you didn’t feel anything from the game you just won, deep down you know that there’s a little excitement there.
By the way, if this is out into consideration then doesn’t it defeats the whole idea of “gambling for fun”? I don’t see how one would gamble for fun without being able to showcase his dopamine or adrenaline rush; when they win or lose a game.
For me, the best thing about gambling is the excitement that comes from playing and winning or losing or anticipating that a prediction comes out well; if a time ever comes where I’d need to no longer gamble and feel this thrills then I don’t think it will be a good time to continue gambling since all I’ll be doing then is just chasing profits.
By the way, if this is out into consideration then doesn’t it defeats the whole idea of “gambling for fun”? I don’t see how one would gamble for fun without being able to showcase his dopamine or adrenaline rush; when they win or lose a game.
For me, the best thing about gambling is the excitement that comes from playing and winning or losing or anticipating that a prediction comes out well; if a time ever comes where I’d need to no longer gamble and feel this thrills then I don’t think it will be a good time to continue gambling since all I’ll be doing then is just chasing profits.
You have to separate gambling for fun/thrill and gambling for profit. I would leave all table games and slots out of the equation and just concentrate on sports as I would no longer be seeking the thrill of the huge win, just the pure aspect of profit. If you plan on trying to be sportsbetter for a living (it can be done, just very hard), then you cannot be taking shots on slots and praying. Only concentrate on making your profit for the day.
I don't think it can be made possible to eliminate dopamine and adrenaline from gambling experience. What can be done is to minimize it, not to have much affect on us when gambling. Developing a strategy like taking regular breaks to counter the rise of dopamine and adrenaline will do a lot of better when the emotions of dopamine and adrenaline comes up because it is always like an urge that can't be easily controlled if a strategy is not put in place by setting a limit to gambling
Definitely YES! if you try to bet in a professional style you can't have such emotions like happy/unhappy after an outcome.
well, of course if you win you are happy, but this should not change your gambling behaviour. thats all.
I often call this method of gambling "financial gambling style" were you don't care about your team or what'else but only on profit and achieve advantages.
well, of course if you win you are happy, but this should not change your gambling behaviour. thats all.
I often call this method of gambling "financial gambling style" were you don't care about your team or what'else but only on profit and achieve advantages.
You're right most people are gambling just for profit making, well talking about "team" you know if I happens to be a gambler let's take for instance I'm a manchester united fan. Let's say we're having a match with bigger team like liverpool, considering the current performance of manchester united I guess you know how poor it is. did you expect me to predict manchester united to win liverpool regardless to their poor performance? LoL, I guess the answer is No because the possibility of manchester united to win liverpool is 0% reason been that liverpool is among the toughest team in premier league this season. However, is obvious that gambling is just part of fun and entertainment that's by supporting our favorite team but not when money is involved knowing fully well that your team is not in a good performance doing that for me is just like waste of money.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Players can develop awareness of their physiological and emotional responses and by recognizing emotion and excitement, they can learn to control them and make more rational decisions.
Experienced players often develop a more calculated approach, where emotion is managed and decision-making is based on probabilities and strategy... people at this level can actually play without the need for emotion.
Choosing games with less volatility and risk can reduce the intensity of dopamine and adrenaline responses. Try to choose games that require skill and strategy, rather than relying purely on luck. This will give you a more controlled experience and you may develop a different taste for games.
But speaking for myself... I'm an occasional player who always seeks entertainment, so I always play for the thrill and I agree with you that this wouldn't work for me either.
Can you gamble without the adrenaline and the dopamine
As far as I know, Adrenaline and Dopamine are more of a hormonal nature, where both will be produced by the brain when carrying out activities, especially if someone engages in gambling activities, if I'm not mistaken both will occur automatically in the soul of every individual.I think that I personally can't gamble without Adrenaline and Dopamine.The reason: Adrenaline will occur on its own when you are stressed or afraid of losing in the gambling arena. When that happens, adrenaline maintains balance so that we don't become frustrated and so on when we lose at gambling and lose money.
While Dopamine, it will happen automatically when you win and are happy, happy when the bet wins and so on.
So if we talk about these two characteristics, they will occur automatically in individuals, of course these two factors apply in gambling.
I created this thread because of this discussion.
Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.
This thread is not to make this discussion bad, not my intention, brothers and sisters
OP created this chart; I'll only post the part of the chart in question. OP did not present a study or an article to back up the chart he created since he mentioned that it was just a potential.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Whoever you are as long as you're a gambler, there are certain things that will supposedly be the driving force that attracts you to gambling especially for those that permutate lots of football games, hence your done with your permutations the adrenaline and dopamine sends a strong signal to your brain, signalling that your likely to be in possession of significant amount of money if you eventually win your bet. so it's not possible to gamble without adrenaline and dopamine because they help control how we feel about any action. Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.
This thread is not to make this discussion bad, not my intention, brothers and sisters
OP created this chart; I'll only post the part of the chart in question. OP did not present a study or an article to back up the chart he created since he mentioned that it was just a potential.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
There will always be that emotional thing that we will feel in every game that we play because we are risking our money while playing it.
I have been playing 10 different slot games constantly and I don't go out of those games until now I still feel the excitement while playing them although I don't enjoy it when I am losing. There are times I will get bored with one game and so I will switch to the other one out of the 10 and I will feel that excitement again. We cannot take out that feeling and even if we are repeatedly playing those games, there will still be different kinds of emotions that we will feel while we are at it. The same goes when I am betting on sports while watching them, I still cheer for the team that I bet for.
I have been playing 10 different slot games constantly and I don't go out of those games until now I still feel the excitement while playing them although I don't enjoy it when I am losing. There are times I will get bored with one game and so I will switch to the other one out of the 10 and I will feel that excitement again. We cannot take out that feeling and even if we are repeatedly playing those games, there will still be different kinds of emotions that we will feel while we are at it. The same goes when I am betting on sports while watching them, I still cheer for the team that I bet for.
For a person where money is not a question, he would be gambling confidently as long as he doesn't gamble in a rush with large amounts he will still make good decisions. Yes. he can accept the loss for today and let the bad luck pass for the next day will be another gambling day.
You will see high rollers play on a poker table, not sweating as they wager more than 100k. But for small capital gamblers, it will be a pressure.
I always expect to have these two and am looking forward to getting excited whenever I play on casinos or any form of betting platform, and I mostly felt these two on horse racing; the majority of players feel they are alive when they are playing because of the rush of adrenaline, and they feel good when they win.
This is the reason why gambling is addictive: the mind always remembers and is attached to something that will excite them.
This is the reason why gambling is addictive: the mind always remembers and is attached to something that will excite them.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I feel like this can only happen if you treat gambling with indifference, I mean, like you treat it to pass the time or so just you have something to do and don't care whether you win or lose. I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
despite treating gambling as entertainment and a way to unwind I still do get the rush when I win especially if you are not expecting it. Definitely YES! if you try to bet in a professional style you can't have such emotions like happy/unhappy after an outcome.
well, of course if you win you are happy, but this should not change your gambling behaviour. thats all.
I often call this method of gambling "financial gambling style" were you don't care about your team or what'else but only on profit and achieve advantages.
Right, it's actually possible if you bet more strategically, meaning you have to adapt a proper gambler's mindset and approach. If you sees gambling as more of an entertainment rather than a source of income, then you will expect fixed outcome so that limits yourself from feeling intense dopamine or adrenaline rush as it lessen emotional arousal. well, of course if you win you are happy, but this should not change your gambling behaviour. thats all.
I often call this method of gambling "financial gambling style" were you don't care about your team or what'else but only on profit and achieve advantages.
But if you are a gambler who focus more on your emotions, definitely you will feel both dopamine and adrenaline rush which is for me a natural part of gambling experience.
It's possible to gamble without having dopamine rush, I think it all depends on your state of mind and how disciplined you are. Getting to that point where you start having dopamine rush means that you lack discipline and also out of control. It's very easy to get this effect from crash games Because they are very addictive, you can also be addicted to other games but this game in particular can lure you into making some financial mistakes. I remember when I was also playing this game, I was always on it even when I was losing, this is the dopamine effect it has on the brain. Bet on sports and stake moderately that's the best way to stay disciplined.
Gambling does not excite me but I play it as I have clear objectives in mind, I set a predefined bankroll and I know what I want to achieve with it, for example I set an 100 dollar bankroll and play it all with 0.10 dollars bet in Play n Go medieval slot themes like Return of the Green Knight, while I don't fight for that max win of x40.000 multiplier I have an objective of going to the hit the sticky wilds in final level of x100 multiplier and to get a nice win, if I win I feel great but if I lose I don't feel bad because this was money played to achieve the results if possible. It is not a quest of if gambling excites me, for me it is more a quest of achieving something good out of it, rarely though I have achieved it, as gambling is designed against us.
Yes it's possible for that we need to understand the science behind the dopamine, I am not a scientist or something but I know something about it. When we gamble at first it surely create dopamine let's say you bet only 3 bets, it will get less exiting on the 3rd day and it gets lesser and lesser so you need to increase the number of bet like 4 and 5 to get the same excitement but at some point we can't feel the excitement rather guilty which is the stage of severe addiction and trust me no one should reach that point.
So the right way is to keep betting the 3 bets consistent which comes under the responsible gambling.
So the right way is to keep betting the 3 bets consistent which comes under the responsible gambling.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
there's always going to be some sort of emotional reaction that will compele one to consider gambling before even looking at the need to do any form of research which will give one the able to gamble effective.I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
As a matter of fact, research and analysis don't function alone independent of any form dopamine but only comes to action after there's a trigger to gamble. Even if you're a responsible, irresponsible or even an addicted gambler, the primary thing is always that the urge to gamble which is a product of an adrenaline power will always come and then you can now talk research or any other thing. This is also applicable to luck based gambling and every other form of gambling.
Gambling is an entertainment platform, and we are just humans to feel these emotions when we are excited about playing, so I don't think you can play without these two. Where the mind and emotions play, there will always be an adrenaline rush, and when we achieve our goals, there will always be dopamine; it is released when we feel good or rewarded at what we do.
For sport betting I must say not everyone but to get excited rather they bet due to their income to receive from the game, if you watch vividly or correctly you will know that there are some people who bet on games that they don't watch and you know betting on game you are watching shows that you are having the fun or being excited. But when you are not watching the game you only stake the bet it shows that you are not having fun rather gambling to make profit and this increases your dopamine and adrenaline because there are so much financial values attached to it.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Slightly I guess in every game which involves gambling money it surely got some thrill and excitement cause the output of losing and winning is at stake. Those you mentioned adrenaline always happened when we are in a state that excites us or give us some nervous so impossible not to have that unless you are a gambler that doesnt exhibit any form of emotions towards what you do. I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Can you share the complete image of the flow chart? I’m interested to try his system if this will work when I follow step by step procedure.
Anyway Dopamine and Adrenaline is always there whenever I’m gambling since that’s what I feel when I’m winning or losing big time. Not feeling anything while gambling means your mind is occupied by other things or simply you don’t want to gamble.
Thinking about losing your money alone can raise your adrenaline.
Anyway Dopamine and Adrenaline is always there whenever I’m gambling since that’s what I feel when I’m winning or losing big time. Not feeling anything while gambling means your mind is occupied by other things or simply you don’t want to gamble.
Thinking about losing your money alone can raise your adrenaline.
Dopamine, adrenaline, serotonin are all the hormones that make us feel good and they are all present in different measures when we engage in different activities. And in any activity that we perceive as pleasurable they can be found in high quantities. Therefore whether we want it to be present or not, as long as we perceive that activity to be pleasurable, then it excites us. Gambling is one of such activity. We know what a win will do, financially and otherwise. When they are in low supply is when the person experiences emotions of pain, loss, depression and the likes. There are however people who through self discipline has learned how to control the excitement it brings such that they don't become addicted. Yes, a lack of control of it leads to addiction because you begin to increase your frequency of gambling just to feel that excitment more and more.
Definitely YES! if you try to bet in a professional style you can't have such emotions like happy/unhappy after an outcome.
well, of course if you win you are happy, but this should not change your gambling behaviour. thats all.
I often call this method of gambling "financial gambling style" were you don't care about your team or what'else but only on profit and achieve advantages.
well, of course if you win you are happy, but this should not change your gambling behaviour. thats all.
I often call this method of gambling "financial gambling style" were you don't care about your team or what'else but only on profit and achieve advantages.
I created this thread because of this discussion.
Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.
This thread is not to make this discussion bad, not my intention, brothers and sisters
OP created this chart; I'll only post the part of the chart in question. OP did not present a study or an article to back up the chart he created since he mentioned that it was just a potential.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
Gambling's Impact: A Flowchart of Potential Outcomes.
This thread is not to make this discussion bad, not my intention, brothers and sisters
OP created this chart; I'll only post the part of the chart in question. OP did not present a study or an article to back up the chart he created since he mentioned that it was just a potential.
Hence my question: Is it possible to gamble without the dopamine and adrenaline?
I tried this on Crash and I cannot. The rush will always be there. How about you?
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