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I tried accessing the site but it seems its down now. Normally, websites that offer ponzi-schemes have various new domains that are scattered around the internet. They constantly change their domains in order to avoid being tracker down when you report them. Unfortunately, the only way to avoid these types of scams is to purely avoid them as much as possible. If you have any evidence or receipts of such scam, you may also post them under the Scam Accusation Board to alert all of the existing users about it so they could also avoid from visiting such site.

Scam Accusation Board: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

The website doesn't work at this point, at least not for me, but I can try again later.



But it is very likely that these scammers will return, maybe with a new domain name and website, but fake exchanges and investment platforms are an old and proven method of scam, and it won't go away so easily.

I reported to Cyber Police in Australia already. But if it a overseas one, is that mean nothing can do??? I reported everywhere I can found but their website is still working.

Since I have already answered a similar question in another topic, I will quote my answer here as well.


So, depending on where you live, it is best to contact an appropriate law enforcement agency that deals with internet crime in your country.
For instance, in the United States, the FBI maintains a website which gives general information about how to report criminal activity, as well as links to several "Internet Crime Complaint Centers" around the nation, in the United Kingdom, The National Cyber Security Centre maintains a website for reporting criminal activity on the Internet, etc.

They probably just switched to a new hosting provider, which means that it doesn't make sense to contact the hosting company since they'll just migrate to the new one, and it's unlikely they will leave their real contact information. These scammers are always looking for ways to remain anonymous.

By the way, I see that the website is still down from my end.

I did contact with Shanghai meicheng company, is this one the domain? The website shut down today afternoon and back to normal again at night time and they even have another new website......

It's a huge amount and why you didn't research well before sending this huge amount of money? After all it's a world of online and we can't trust blindly. Scammers are always try to scam with new methods and they try to hide their real identity. You contact with service provider of this domain. May be you can find some important footprint of scammer if you're able to provide proper evidence.

i did search for the transaction and i think it is a very professional team and doing this maybe 1 year, they have so many accounts transfer around

In light of the changes you made to your original post, I would like to add just a few more thoughts.

First of all, don't pay any more money to these scammers. A service that requires you to pay for withdrawals of your coins is a 100% scam. There is no tax requirement to release your withdrawal. It's just their way of getting as much money out of you as possible.

Second, just looking at their website is enough for me to conclude that this is a scam. Sorry to say that.
Their website doesn't contain any information about the company. And, they are definitely not "The World's Leading Digital Asset Trading Platform" - the domain is barely a month old.

So, do NOT "invest" your funds there, and if you have already deposited, accept your loss and let it be a lesson for you, or seek legal help if the amount invested is significant.

Yes, I did see lots my my transactions, what can I do now? Is that possible to trace? Or any party can help? I do contact binance but they said the previous address I transferred is not belongs to them so they can't help much. It looks like a lots of victims. I did emails to Domain registrar to block them but not sure if it works as it is the domain overseas in Shanghai and I'm not sure if it is the real one.

At first address: https://ethplorer.io/address/0x66da60ece375739e211eb103e0d1de1a17c4a2c0
There are 44 transactions. I am not sure is it your address and which transaction is between you and the scammer. Find one of the outgoing transactions from his address and follow where he moves this fund. On Etheruem network is much harder to hide or mixing tx's

I pulled this out for you in the spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M2TDYR0Ku2zxdLTh8uhRl0lp2Aoa0iMqND-gSQd3wSQ/edit?usp=sharing

What's that mean?
Most of the transaction with the first one, have maybe around 10times, and the second one only used once for 5000. The third one is the first time gave me and not transferred

I saw several transactions from these addresses. Can you confirm which transactions are in dispute?
Some of them have tags from the service where they belong. though it is a faint hope, perhaps the scammer was mistaken and used the deposit address from the exchange. then maybe you have a chance.

I would say mostly no. Just because most of the scammers will try to hide their tracks to the point it wouldn't be worth it to the one being scammed.  I mean, there are probably some scammers that are reckless and you could theoretically track them down, but I would imagine that those scammers are also ones that scam for spare change and are not worth the trouble. Maybe one day something could be implemented as a safety net...maybe.

In online, it's very possible to being scammed. Nost of the time we can't be able to track scammer's details because it's a ongoing process in internet. There's is no enough evidence of scammer.

You're talking about who.is and here, anyone can hide his real identity if he wants. Anyone can use fake details for scamming.

ICANN, I think you are known to this. Though it says fake details matter but it's possible to use fake information. For more check it out: https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/10473/providing-fake-info-during-domain-registration-does-it-matter

Sometimes. Because of KYC, crypto exchanges and some other online services have information on people's addresses, which are sometimes linked to their credit card information. If you've been a victim of cybercrime, you should contact your local police department and ask if they can track the wallet's address. However, in many cases, it's better to go to the professional crypto investigators. They are very experienced and could help you find out who is behind the crime.


The whois registrar information on domains can be used to identify who has control of the domain. But a registry can be either a private or public registry. Even when it comes to the public registry, this registrar information is not always accurate and may not include personal information about the domain holder. Again, local law enforcement's cybercrime unit can assist you in collecting this information.

Possible but which is close to impossible, if your bitcoin wallet got hacked and scammer used to move the funds to centralized wallets or exchanges where they actually verified their identity. But its a long process and may take lot of time and legal support with enough funds to cover all the expenses.

WHO information could theoretically be fake, and there's no point basing your accusations on that. So, the best you can do is contact the domain registrar to get the scam website shut down. While your waiting for that, you should try to warn as many people as possible about the scam website. Finally, reporting to the police is a long shot, and without them actually being able to investigate i.e be in the same jurisdiction, it'll likely turn up fruitless. Though, always worth making an effort to at least report it, just don't expect anything to happen.  

Basically, as soon as you come across a scam you should be thinking about prevention rather than recovery, since in the majority of cases where the website is anonymously created, they'll be no way to hold the people who created it responsible.

Even if you went the lawyer route, you need to know who's the target before you do that. In the majority of the cases involved with Cryptocurrencies or even fiat, the paper trail so to speak is rather unsubstantial. Therefore, any authority that might have been interested in taking a closer look will soon give up to lack of evidence, and a lawyer will do the same.

Targeting the registrar for compensation from the scam would likely be a waste of time too, and probably wouldn't be taken on by the majority of lawyers. 

It's because there's a hard process for them if you're going to pursue tracing the scammers. The information for the registrar in whois sometimes isn't really the actual name and address of the domain owner. There's a certain division for the policy to trace these scammers but does their technology is enough in doing so? I don't think so unless your country is advanced and they're pursuant in cracking down the scammers and reports that they receive.

Realistically all you could do are accept your loss, warn other people and move on. While theoretically you could hire lawyer, it's likely you'll lose even more money and time.

it is very difficult to conclude what you are talking about and what kind of accounts, but as far as I can see from your history, you are scammed on bitz-global.com
Best what you can do is to contact their domain registrar and explain everything. they probably have some of the owner's data but this information will be provided only at the request of the competent authorities

The answer can be both they can be traced or cannot be traced anymore. it depends on how good the team who gonna trace them and it depends on the scammers on how good they are hiding. Just like the recent Twitter account hacks, they posted some BTC addresses where you can double your BTC but that's all fake created by scammers. Though their BTC or ETH address is tranparent, they cannot be traced because they know how exactly to hide from the authorities and until now they still out there waiting for the right chance to fool some people again.

Prevention is better than cure. It is better to let your coin remain to you than sending it to scammers and trying to recover it. The reason many scammers scammed successfully is because no investigation after the unlawful act. I remembered when I googled about 'if someone send gift card to a scammer'. It is very possible the scammer made some mistakes and be traceable but the victim may require to pay appropriate governmental bodies for the scammer to be known, the amount of money which can later be more than the actual money he or she was scammed.

Avoid online recovery service, they will scam you also


If you do not know the right governmental organization to report to, your lawyer can help you.

About bitcoin and many other coins, it is very possible for you not to be able to trace the person. The person can know how to be anonymous in a way he is using noncustododial wallet and Tor appropriately and later sell the coin via direct p2p or making use of decentralized exchanges with Tor. He can know a lot about how to hide himself in a way it will really be difficult for him to be known.

But if the person make use of exchange address, it is very possible for you to trace the coin if the address has been active and used for deposit and withdrawal. You can try this site to know the exchange the address belong too if it actually an exchange address:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/

But even if you report such case to an exchange customers services, they will request for an appropriate governmental body in your country, you will ha e to get to the exchange through it not directly. That means you will need to seek the appropriate governmental body about this in your country to help you out. Know that this will require money, so this will be recommended if you are scammed high amount of money.

There is still other risks. Some scammers are smart enough, they have fake KYC, they receive payment in a way you can not trace them and the likes.

Is the scammer in the same country as you are to start with? If so, did the police try to reach out to the domain provider? They're probably the ones who can help the most by providing IP addresses used to log in to the server or their site.

then anything i can do? i already report to police but seems they cant do anything

If you ask vague question, you will get vague answer. So you need to be more specific.


It depends on,
1. What information the account left behind.
2. Effort you're willing to track the account.


If the scammer send Bitcoin directly from user deposit address to custodial exchange, it is possible.


Whois detail on a domain could be either real, makeup/fake or even hidden using 3rd party service (such as http://whoisprivacycorp.com/).

I had a scam investment trading, the platform is taking
www.bitz-global.com
how to report this website is a scam?
i reported as many as i can, but i can see the website is still working.
It cant opened only half day 2 days ago and now back to normal again and looks like they got one more new website.