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December 05, 2024, 04:26:38 PM
#49

If you join this forum and spend years on it, I am confident that you will see the bright side of bitcoin, which is truly legit and trusted. You will not see anyone talking negatively about bitcoin currency because everyone believes in it and trusts it, and we are profiting from it as the price rises and we reach our target. If people are still talking issues about bitcoin right now. I don't think that person will have a future in cryptocurrency.
Because in the end when we are in the forum, it is certain that we are in a scope where most of the goals are the same as making bitcoin one of the assets whether it will be used as an object of trade, investment or currency (means of payment) everything still leads to that. So it is very natural that in the forum only a small percentage of people will consider bitcoin as one of the things that has a negative impact on them.

But in any case for now even though the goal is still the same in the end all must stay on the path they personally believe in because being in this scope even though the goal is the same but don't let us fully trust others because no one can really be trusted when it comes to something profitable so focus and keep going according to personal beliefs it becomes an important thing to realize in the end.



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December 05, 2024, 03:59:34 PM
#48
I'm more concerned how the government comes to the market and dump Bitcoin they seized from people and claim they are criminals, why not hold it for future perspective, I guess they are juts hungry taxation criminals hiding in the government umbrella. Look at Germany for instance thag was selling Bitcoin back when it was around $56k, had it been they have hold it to now, they will confidently liquidate it here 2 times the value they sold earlier.

What if there is regulation, we don't want it obviously but on a second thought, what if there is regulation for the ecosystem that protects the holder and the officials that seize Bitcoin, there should be a enforcement law that forbid them from doing the things they do in the Bitcoin market.

Google is another topic, you see Google and Mark Zuckerberg, there days are number but it's just a matter of time, even this shall pass and advertising will be handle with care.
I do not think that you can make governments hold the coins they have, thats not going to work and they will only do that if they want to, not based on when you want, but based on when they want. Governments can seize money based on the legality of it, first they seize it until the decision is made, they can't touch it during that process, and whoever they took it from, goes against a judge and when they are found guilty, the money is cashed out and paid towards whoever  the criminal stole from, and that works so far.

I understand that waiting would have made it bigger, but at the same time government doesn't have the responsibility to do that, if the people who got paid wants to, they could just buy it from that money and do whatever they want with it. At the end of the day, germany did whats best for german government, they didn't had any responsibility aside from just catching the criminals and paying the victims and they did that, rest is not their problem.
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December 05, 2024, 01:26:37 PM
#47
Spot on. That's it. If at this point we still have members of this forum who do not believe in the process. Then it only means that they are either trolling or will never believe in the process. We cannot equally override the unspoken opinions. Bitcoin is not all good. As it is said that anything that have advantage also posses some level of disadvantages, and bitcoin is not in isolation of such assertion. Maybe it was his wish to also outline or flash on those gray sides while we always discuss the positive side of the technology.

And those that did not care in the process most of them are just scared and they have the mindset of not tempering with there money they will prefer to leave the money there without any form of investment because they will be like they don't trust the investment and what I know is that even if this is a forum to encourage people to invest people will still not invest that is one thing about people and you can not force them to invest.  And some maybe what they have heard about bitcoin they are not ready to risk anything, they should be left that way if they are forced then they might end up blaming so it is better for them to make a decision them Self if they really want to invest.
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December 05, 2024, 01:07:18 PM
#46
- Saxony: They sold criminal seized coin on the open market and we hope they learned a lesson. All public coin should have democratic policy about sales of criminal seized coin. This should apply to all countries including China.

- Paywall media: If you google 'bitcoin news', the top hits are media sites with bad news headlines that you can't read without a subscription.

There are many more to list. Please add. ~~~~

I'm more concerned how the government comes to the market and dump Bitcoin they seized from people and claim they are criminals, why not hold it for future perspective, I guess they are juts hungry taxation criminals hiding in the government umbrella. Look at Germany for instance thag was selling Bitcoin back when it was around $56k, had it been they have hold it to now, they will confidently liquidate it here 2 times the value they sold earlier.

What if there is regulation, we don't want it obviously but on a second thought, what if there is regulation for the ecosystem that protects the holder and the officials that seize Bitcoin, there should be a enforcement law that forbid them from doing the things they do in the Bitcoin market.

Google is another topic, you see Google and Mark Zuckerberg, there days are number but it's just a matter of time, even this shall pass and advertising will be handle with care.
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December 05, 2024, 02:59:16 AM
#45
If you join this forum and spend years on it, I am confident that you will see the bright side of bitcoin, which is truly legit and trusted. You will not see anyone talking negatively about bitcoin currency because everyone believes in it and trusts it, and we are profiting from it as the price rises and we reach our target. If people are still talking issues about bitcoin right now. I don't think that person will have a future in cryptocurrency.

Spot on. That's it. If at this point we still have members of this forum who do not believe in the process. Then it only means that they are either trolling or will never believe in the process. We cannot equally override the unspoken opinions. Bitcoin is not all good. As it is said that anything that have advantage also posses some level of disadvantages, and bitcoin is not in isolation of such assertion. Maybe it was his wish to also outline or flash on those gray sides while we always discuss the positive side of the technology.

Yeah, those who learned about BTC properly would never think in that direction - after all, the forum is to get the knowledge needed in so many spheres of crypto.
Better yet just keep believing and be on the bright side.
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December 05, 2024, 01:30:48 AM
#44
If you join this forum and spend years on it, I am confident that you will see the bright side of bitcoin, which is truly legit and trusted. You will not see anyone talking negatively about bitcoin currency because everyone believes in it and trusts it, and we are profiting from it as the price rises and we reach our target. If people are still talking issues about bitcoin right now. I don't think that person will have a future in cryptocurrency.
Spot on. That's it. If at this point we still have members of this forum who do not believe in the process. Then it only means that they are either trolling or will never believe in the process. We cannot equally override the unspoken opinions. Bitcoin is not all good. As it is said that anything that have advantage also posses some level of disadvantages, and bitcoin is not in isolation of such assertion. Maybe it was his wish to also outline or flash on those gray sides while we always discuss the positive side of the technology.
Honestly, there are not a lot of people who do see this as a bad thing neither, they are mostly checking this out as a good thing and I believe that we are going to get a good result eventually, we just need to spend a bit more time towards checking if bitcoin could be promoted in a way that makes more sense. Do not say it's a way to get rich, say it's the best investment, do not say it can make you 10x return in a year, say it could be a great addition to retirement fund.

These type of additions will make sure that people will realize bitcoin is a good asset to hold, not some get rich quick scheme, and all the negative talk about bitcoin comes from people who do not understand what we are dealing with, that's the issue.
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December 04, 2024, 09:26:54 PM
#43
Spot on. That's it. If at this point we still have members of this forum who do not believe in the process. Then it only means that they are either trolling or will never believe in the process. We cannot equally override the unspoken opinions. Bitcoin is not all good. As it is said that anything that have advantage also posses some level of disadvantages, and bitcoin is not in isolation of such assertion. Maybe it was his wish to also outline or flash on those gray sides while we always discuss the positive side of the technology.

The other hand they never knew the purpose of this forum and maybe they also don't understand what bitcoin.talk is.
When talking about advantages and disadvantages it doesn't mean that the process is bad but rather the way of getting involved in it using the wrong way.
Now there are many changes that have taken place and even people who are involved in this industry using the right way have gained a lot of financial benefits in their life. So there is no reason to say that bitcoin is a bad choice, rather such people do not know about bitcoin.
Trolling does seem more boring to discuss with them because whatever they say is completely baseless and they even defend their ego.
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December 04, 2024, 01:14:18 PM
#42
If you join this forum and spend years on it, I am confident that you will see the bright side of bitcoin, which is truly legit and trusted. You will not see anyone talking negatively about bitcoin currency because everyone believes in it and trusts it, and we are profiting from it as the price rises and we reach our target. If people are still talking issues about bitcoin right now. I don't think that person will have a future in cryptocurrency.

Spot on. That's it. If at this point we still have members of this forum who do not believe in the process. Then it only means that they are either trolling or will never believe in the process. We cannot equally override the unspoken opinions. Bitcoin is not all good. As it is said that anything that have advantage also posses some level of disadvantages, and bitcoin is not in isolation of such assertion. Maybe it was his wish to also outline or flash on those gray sides while we always discuss the positive side of the technology.
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December 04, 2024, 10:16:33 AM
#41
Bitcoin is definitely true and mature, we will definitely fight for Bitcoin, it is the safest digital currency of the present time. Where we can feel peace by investing and it is possible to gain huge benefits, there is no doubt that others will present it in the same way as we present it.
Because Bitcoin is spread all over the world based on its own merits, those who are very worried about investing in Bitcoin are the bedbugs of this society.
If anyone criticizes it, we will definitely prove to them that Bitcoin is the best investment and is known as the safest and truest asset of this time, because you will be surprised when you look at the growth rate of Bitcoin. Only those who are stupid, they are afraid of taking risks, and only stupid people will say that Bitcoin is bad.

We should not quarrel or argue because someone is expressing something negative about bitcoin, because you already know the truth about bitcoin, which is real and trustworthy. So if somebody is arguing about it, you should just let him alone and comment negatively about bitcoin. All of these people are talking needless things about it, and I'm sure they know the truth, but they don't have the money to invest in it, so they'll search for another option to keep some people interested in bitcoin. But I usually advise folks who are hearing awful things about bitcoin that if they genuinely want to stay invested in crypto, they should study thoroughly and see first before you can judge someone is lying or not.

If you join this forum and spend years on it, I am confident that you will see the bright side of bitcoin, which is truly legit and trusted. You will not see anyone talking negatively about bitcoin currency because everyone believes in it and trusts it, and we are profiting from it as the price rises and we reach our target. If people are still talking issues about bitcoin right now. I don't think that person will have a future in cryptocurrency.
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December 04, 2024, 09:08:20 AM
#40
Bitcoin will always be the winner. Don't mind the bad news about bitcoin, it will always be number one. Even from a few years ago, many people tried to bring bitcoin down and said that bitcoin will fall or even disappear, but the truth is no. Bitcoin has already beaten the silver marketcap, and it will probably keep up with gold sooner or later, and i believe it will even beat it. So, don't listen to any fud about bitcoin, it's pointless, because fundamentally bitcoin is unbeatable, and i believe and agreed regarding the narrative which says that Bitcoin is gold version 2.0.

The position of bitcoin can not be taken and it as been writing from day one that nothing can change the position of bitcoin as the king and been the first I doubt if anyone will trust any other coin the way they will trust bitcoin, and that is why no matter how bad that news is, it might affect the price of bitcoin at that particular time but for sure it will still bounce back, why because it is normal for every stock to experience what bitcoin is experiencing sometimes, you will always see negative news about bitcoin and I don't know why a lot of people are trying to bring it down, what they should have know is that even the government have tried but it did not work so it shows that bitcoin is immune to all this.

And I love how the initiative was futuristic and it did actually work and that is why some times you wonder if satoshi seen the future, because everything is going as planned, the fact that the price will come very low and then go up given other investors the opportunity to invest, and I don't think fud is now a problem to bitcoin, and in no time bitcoin might even replace gold is now as if the era of gold is gradually coming to an end because it's heavy and many more except for the digital gold.
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December 04, 2024, 09:04:47 AM
#39
In the crypto world, bitcoin is like gold which is the basic asset for other coins. In fact, many giant companies in the world use bitcoin as their company's basic asset. The long history of bitcoin proves that bitcoin is increasingly trusted and more and more large companies are adopting bitcoin as their basic asset.

As long as there is no other currency system that can beat what bitcoin offers, bitcoin and crypto will continue to grow. I still remember a few years ago when the price of bitcoin, many people panicked and content creators who did not understand and tended to corner bitcoin. As a result, they lost the opportunity to make money. Negative news will continue to exist against bitcoin almost every year there is news that corners bitcoin but in reality bitcoin remains strong and even continues to grow.
Yes, if we study the history of Bitcoin, we will know about the real success of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is becoming increasingly strong as "digital gold", because currently many big companies are investing and holding huge amounts of money in Bitcoin, such as MSTR, BlackRock, MARA, Tesla, and many more big companies are holding Bitcoin.
Those who did not understand the true future potential of Bitcoin, and did not believe in Bitcoin and stayed away from Bitcoin, have missed a life-changing opportunity.
There will always be negative news and confusion, but those who believe in Bitcoin, hold it fearlessly with a long-term view, they are going to achieve great success in the future.
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December 04, 2024, 08:54:46 AM
#38
I don't believe giving them so much relevance is the way to go. I don't see any reason for bashing them and reporting their articles. Everybody is allowed to have his own opinions. I have opinions that are against some things that other people favour, that's life. Everybody cannot be for something.
What I think we can do is just keep buying and educating people who are interested and ask you about it. Don't keep your bitcoin in centralised exchanges. Keep your bitcoin in a non-custodial wallet instead.

We didn't fight for bitcoin when it was below 1k when most of the world labelled it a Ponzi scheme, so why should you fight for it now that it's approaching 100k and showing people how wrong they were wrong about it?
Bitcoin is organic. It doesn't need people to create traffic or market it to survive.

When they even talk about fighting for Bitcoin whom exactly are we going to fight because there are fight that should be disregarded because is a waste of time and truly Bitcoin is that kind, an assets that depends on people to fight for is a weak assets because it means that without that it cannot survive but fortunately Bitcoin is not a weak assets because is the kind of assets that grow to the extent that those who were fighting against it come back to accept the growth, however no matter any wrong cook up stories or articles published by someone about Bitcoin it doesn't change anything and there is no need to attack the person because if such thing will affect Bitcoin it would have done that long ago, so actually the only thing I see to be important is buying Bitcoin. However if there is any side that should talk about fight is other cryptocurrency that are struggling for growth but not Bitcoin.
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December 04, 2024, 07:48:34 AM
#37
In the crypto world, bitcoin is like gold which is the basic asset for other coins. In fact, many giant companies in the world use bitcoin as their company's basic asset. The long history of bitcoin proves that bitcoin is increasingly trusted and more and more large companies are adopting bitcoin as their basic asset.

As long as there is no other currency system that can beat what bitcoin offers, bitcoin and crypto will continue to grow. I still remember a few years ago when the price of bitcoin, many people panicked and content creators who did not understand and tended to corner bitcoin. As a result, they lost the opportunity to make money. Negative news will continue to exist against bitcoin almost every year there is news that corners bitcoin but in reality bitcoin remains strong and even continues to grow.
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December 04, 2024, 07:03:52 AM
#36
Honestly I agree, Peter can't do much, he has been talking against it for years and he always failed, makes no sense to go against him at all, he is useless and worthless in a bitcoin topic. Gary is true, he is gone, and to be fair the rest is just right wing media feed from a twitter troll and nothing more.

I understand you may feel what you feel and I understand you may think you have a decent belief and "proof" in your mind that it's true, all of them, but they are not and there are reasons to these things and it doesn't really matter because bitcoin is 95k and nearly going to 100k and that means we are doing fine. So OP might be wrong about all the tin foil hat ideas that he has, but at the end we are going to be fine and doing fine so far.
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December 03, 2024, 09:52:38 PM
#35
If you care about Bitcoin, I would say never use centralized exchange anymore.

Why stop to use centralized exchange?
It's because many risks from centralized exchanges.
Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts.

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because when you send your coins to the exchange, the exchange can access your coins, which is kill the decentralization.
I care more about safety of my bitcoin and by using centralized exchanges, I have to deposit my bitcoin to my account on centralized exchanges, that deposit destroy my control on my bitcoin. I will have to depend on a centralized exchange, to approve my withdrawal for me, to access my bitcoin again after their withdrawal processing and the corresponding transaction is confirmed by Bitcoin miners. Before that confirmation, my bitcoins belong to that centralized exchange.

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When you want to trade your coins for other currency, the transaction happened by off-chain, this mean you didn't contribute to the network.
It is about on chain transactions and on chain transaction fees to Bitcoin miners.

Some more contribution to decentralization of Bitcoin network is running either a Bitcoin full node or prune node to help verifying Bitcoin blocks.
What does a node do?
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December 03, 2024, 09:23:37 PM
#34
This board should have the will to fight and win for the value of bitcoin. We need to use the powers we have to defeat the evils that want to keep it down. I will list a few of the bad actors, and methods of combat.

In fact, we have seen many crimes in this world occur and people will try to link one event to another, even bitcoin is associated with more violent crimes by haters and they will only spread negative issues to bring down bitcoin.
But what happens is the opposite because bitcoin has already gained a place and all the negative accusations they try to say are completely baseless.
Bitcoin is not influenced by one person in its journey and bitcoin will remain a winner as long as people believe in freedom as a step towards better financial ability.

We can ignore the negative things that people try to accuse Bitcoin of because in reality everyone will think the same about its use and utilization because negative news will continue to emerge even before Bitcoin develops as it is now.
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December 03, 2024, 06:49:36 PM
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If you want to care about Bitcoin, you must pay attention to a few things. You should be very careful about the security of the wallet you choose to hold your Bitcoins in particular. You must be aware that no one can gain access to your wallet. Also you must be careful when using centralized exchanges or you can never think of your bitcoins as safe for you. Central exchanges can take access to your bitcoin at any time, so if you want to hold it for a long time, you must focus on choosing a wallet rather than an exchange.
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December 03, 2024, 06:23:10 PM
#32
How will anyone call for a fight on behalf of something that is already winning the suckers and the haters. Bitcoin doesn't require a fight or attacks from it's adopters towards the gang of pessimists on bitcoin. I do believe that the best way to fight if it's anything necessary of a fight it's by hodling our bitcoin's and planning on accumulating more rather than thinking of selling as price goes close to 100k. Because selling off of our bitcoin's is what the haters always want of us than hodling because the more we hodl the more bitcoin continue to gain more institutional ground spreading wide attracting new investors through it growing value.
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December 03, 2024, 06:04:21 PM
#31
Bitcoin is for everyone , those that kept criticizing and stuff is their loss . Many still doubt bitcoin potential till now and we can't do anything about because is their personal choice to be in the shadow.

They will keep criticizing and waiting for bitcoin to drop to 0$ while bitcoin is busy creating new ATHs and gaining more adoption, just focus on building and securing a  position in bitcoin by having some nice  amount of portions of bitcoin and hold for long as bitcoin continues with it's breakthroughs.

There's no need to convince anyone to go into this market. Whether they will join or not, doesn't matter. As this market will continue to thrive without them. Even large economy like China can't topple the existence of crypto market. If you are in the position whether you want to defend this currency or not, think about it - you don't need to defend this market. Just let them realize what's their missing out. And time will be the factor in this situation.

Bitcoin will always be the winner. Don't mind the bad news about bitcoin, it will always be number one. Even from a few years ago, many people tried to bring bitcoin down and said that bitcoin will fall or even disappear, but the truth is no. Bitcoin has already beaten the silver marketcap, and it will probably keep up with gold sooner or later, and i believe it will even beat it. So, don't listen to any fud about bitcoin, it's pointless, because fundamentally bitcoin is unbeatable, and i believe and agreed regarding the narrative which says that Bitcoin is gold version 2.0.

Fud or not, it depends on you how you will take advantage of this market. If you are already here, it means, this market got your interest. And for sure, you've done a lot of searches as well. Now, it is on you how you will attack this market to get the profits that you want.
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December 03, 2024, 04:16:57 PM
#30
Bitcoin is not for everyone and not limited to the saboteurs criticizing the valuabilities of bitcoin.so let them be as Speculations about bitcoin is a free to say.
Perhaps there had been a lot of anti bitcoiners who had in time make a U-turn to embrace bitcoin even after much critics. Indeed Donald Trump of toddy contributing to this great level bitcoin is an obvious example.

Bitcoin is for everyone , those that kept criticizing and stuff is their loss . Many still doubt bitcoin potential till now and we can't do anything about because is their personal choice to be in the shadow.

They will keep criticizing and waiting for bitcoin to drop to 0$ while bitcoin is busy creating new ATHs and gaining more adoption, just focus on building and securing a  position in bitcoin by having some nice  amount of portions of bitcoin and hold for long as bitcoin continues with it's breakthroughs.
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December 03, 2024, 03:54:43 PM
#29
No need to worry about how people are criticizing bitcoin, because it shows that those are bitcoin haters and fail to accept the fact that bitcoin is the new digital asset that can transform their whole life if only they can accept the fact and invest. Turn deaf ears to whatever they are saying, because it's not new and bitcoin have being proving them wrong since the beginning and had also put them to shame. Teach your friends, family and relatives about the basics of bitcoin and if they're interested to invest, you show them how to do it, as your own contribution to the bitcoin community.
We really don't need to worry about those critics. Bitcoin history can't be narrated completely without adding them in the picture; they all have a role, which the player is pushing Bitcoin to the level that it's at today. They run free promotions and create indirect awareness for Bitcoin while trying to criticise it in public.
 
Bitcoin has passed that level where hate speech does affect it again, but yet people will still keep on talking against it, either because they are too ashamed to embrace the fact that they were wrong all this while or it could be because they are among those who don't like seeing good things flourish.
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December 03, 2024, 02:09:05 PM
#28
This board should have the will to fight and win for the value of bitcoin. We need to use the powers we have to defeat the evils that want to keep it down. I will list a few of the bad actors, and methods of combat.

- Peter Schiff: He makes profits on gold and fears that bitcoin will force him to sell his house and turn his daughters into prostitutes. He slams bitcoin but no other crypto because of his fear of the 'king coin'. Any media that quotes this desperate fool should be slammed hard. Comment on the articles that they are posting fake news by 'the desperate fool'.

- Gary Gensler: to be resolved Jan 20

- Dems and the DoJ: On Monday, July 29, 2024. The US government moved 29,800 of its total hoard of 230,000 coin. The FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) in the market caused the price to crash $3,000. This was two days after the Trump speech in Nashville. The speech and the hype up to it, had the price up to $70,000ish from the Mt Gox and Saxony crashes. I reported this to the FBI as either election fraud or market manipulation. They think I have a tin foil hat.

- Saxony: They sold criminal seized coin on the open market and we hope they learned a lesson. All public coin should have democratic policy about sales of criminal seized coin. This should apply to all countries including China.

- Paywall media: If you google 'bitcoin news', the top hits are media sites with bad news headlines that you can't read without a subscription.

There are many more to list. Please add. ~~~~
Don't care for Peter Schiff and If I am not wrong most of the members here also don't care for him because he can't do any harm to BTC so those who are not investing in BTC and following him are making their own decision as noone is allowed to force others to invest in BTC it's their choice.

Gary is retiring good news, I am happy along with many projects, I just can't beleive one thing that they aplogized CZ and asked him to reinsate him as CEO agian, I mean even that can possible.

The crash and the selling from Germany or by MT Gox was planned already I am not sure about Saxony, but Mt Gox has already shared a year ago that they will start their distribution in the October of 2024. So can't say if it's manipulation.

Speaking of media I don't think we should depend on one media source because even the big ones can make wrong moves for example last time in January when it was the hype of ETF approval Cointelegraph author published false news and the whole market moves up as it was total manipulatoin and disaster at the same time many benefited but later they just made an apologize which was not enough obviously for those who made huge loss.

Point is people should not read news from one or two sites they should at least have 5 to 10 source of news totally unique not the ones copyng and pasting each other's news. TG and Twitter are the best sources for the news.
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December 03, 2024, 11:37:35 AM
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No need to worry about how people are criticizing bitcoin, because it shows that those are bitcoin haters and fail to accept the fact that bitcoin is the new digital asset that can transform their whole life if only they can accept the fact and invest. Turn deaf ears to whatever they are saying, because it's not new and bitcoin have being proving them wrong since the beginning and had also put them to shame. Teach your friends, family and relatives about the basics of bitcoin and if they're interested to invest, you show them how to do it, as your own contribution to the bitcoin community.
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December 03, 2024, 11:11:24 AM
#26
Peter Schiff is harmless imo. He might be a clown but he is only expressing his opinions. Why would you make an enemy of him? There will always some people who'll hate bitcoin with or without any reason. Schiff is not a government worker, he has no power at all.

You are right with the others as far as I see though. The dems and Gary will be taken care of soon. Legacy media too hopefully. CNN deserves to be in the trash can.

In the end bitcoin will bury any of these cockroaches. No need to worry about it. Remember, Bitcoin doesn't need us, we need it.
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December 03, 2024, 11:01:24 AM
#25
Bitcoin will always be the winner. Don't mind the bad news about bitcoin, it will always be number one. Even from a few years ago, many people tried to bring bitcoin down and said that bitcoin will fall or even disappear, but the truth is no. Bitcoin has already beaten the silver marketcap, and it will probably keep up with gold sooner or later, and i believe it will even beat it. So, don't listen to any fud about bitcoin, it's pointless, because fundamentally bitcoin is unbeatable, and i believe and agreed regarding the narrative which says that Bitcoin is gold version 2.0.
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December 03, 2024, 09:55:07 AM
#24
That is a passive response. If you believe that bitcoin will win on its own merit, then you are correct. My point is that we can fight and win to put it on top faster.

Bitcoin already win, the fact that it's market cap is bigger than silver market cap should be enough to understand how It win.

There is not mucho to do about It, It already has enough promotion and enough money for the succes. Those Who know how to ride the wave will win too.
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December 03, 2024, 08:50:07 AM
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I don't believe giving them so much relevance is the way to go. I don't see any reason for bashing them and reporting their articles. Everybody is allowed to have his own opinions. I have opinions that are against some things that other people favour, that's life. Everybody cannot be for something.
People are allowed to have their own opinions but they shouldn’t form opinions based on non-factual information and biased views. Education is key and if someone asks me to help them understand bitcoin, I will gladly do so and if they end up still not liking bitcoin then I can accept it. But I don’t want to put so much effort. All information is available on the internet. We need to just guide them towards the right path.
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We didn't fight for bitcoin when it was below 1k when most of the world labelled it a Ponzi scheme, so why should you fight for it now that it's approaching 100k and showing people how wrong they were wrong about it?
Bitcoin is organic. It doesn't need people to create traffic or market it to survive.
It survived back then, it would keep surviving now. Not only surviving actually, bitcoin is thriving.
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December 03, 2024, 08:04:00 AM
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It seems some responses say 'We have a house, a job, and food; so we don't need to fight for anything better.' This is the same attitude that stopped slaves from fighting for power for hundreds of years. I am going to phone the FBI for a third time to report the US DoJ moving coin again on Dec 2/24. The price crashed close to $5,000 and may take weeks to recover. The July 29/24 crash didn't recover until the Trump pump. These moves should be controlled by a public bitcoin policy and not by a few with wallet access to profit from every crash they create. 1-800-CALL-FBI (225-5324). It is criminal, and they should investigate. Microsoft votes Dec 10/24 to buy bitcoin. The board recommends a no vote. Grayscale and other bitcoin ETF whales are the largest Microsoft shareholders. That will create a ripple in price. The AGM may have a live public stream to watch those antics.
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November 25, 2024, 01:48:02 PM
#21
I don't believe giving them so much relevance is the way to go. I don't see any reason for bashing them and reporting their articles. Everybody is allowed to have his own opinions. I have opinions that are against some things that other people favour, that's life. Everybody cannot be for something.
What I think we can do is just keep buying and educating people who are interested and ask you about it. Don't keep your bitcoin in centralised exchanges. Keep your bitcoin in a non-custodial wallet instead.

We didn't fight for bitcoin when it was below 1k when most of the world labelled it a Ponzi scheme, so why should you fight for it now that it's approaching 100k and showing people how wrong they were wrong about it?
Bitcoin is organic. It doesn't need people to create traffic or market it to survive.
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November 25, 2024, 04:01:30 AM
#20
If you care about Bitcoin, I would say never use centralized exchange anymore.

Why stop to use centralized exchange? because when you send your coins to the exchange, the exchange can access your coins, which is kill the decentralization. When you want to trade your coins for other currency, the transaction happened by off-chain, this mean you didn't contribute to the network.
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November 25, 2024, 01:53:37 AM
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This board should have the will to fight and win for the value of bitcoin. We need to use the powers we have to defeat the evils that want to keep it down. I will list a few of the bad actors, and methods of combat.

What "board" are you talking about? Bitcoin isn't a corporation. The FUD and hate around Bitcoin will never stop and we can't stop it by defending Bitcoin on social media. Personally I don't care about the opinions of Buffet, Jamie Dimon, Peter Schiff or any other Bitcoin hater.
Haters gonna hate even when the Bitcoin price hits 100K, 200K or 1 million. The BTC supporters acting like some weird religious cult and defending Bitcoin on social media seems like a desperate move to me(and it looks so cringe as well). Bitcoin is doing just fine and there's no need for us to "defend" it from all evil. Grin
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Baba God Noni
November 25, 2024, 01:53:32 AM
#18
No one needs to fight for bitcoin because bitcoin can protect itself and has being during that since creation after a lot of critics and run down on bitcoin. To the point that government thought that it is within their power to decide if bitcoin exist or not, but bitcoin proved them wrong and disappointed them.

One thing with media is that they are doing their work to spread whatever information people tell them to do and I will not blame them for that, because it's the same media that is passing bitcoin awareness to people more. Don't care about what people are saying bout bitcoin but care about how much bitcoin you can accumulate.
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November 25, 2024, 01:45:17 AM
#17
If we are going to be focusing our energy on all negative  sentiments that goes on around the world of Bitcoin, fear will get the better of us and then we might lose interest in it and worst case scenario is get depressed about it!!

On the bright side, why don't we talk about the positives about Bitcoin related news to absorb all the negatives, for example  incoming POTUS is Pro Bitcoin which is a big plus as we saw that after his win price rallied up over 25k and we are still bullish btw...

Btw people will always criticize a good cause,  so let's just put a blind eye on them.
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November 25, 2024, 12:33:50 AM
#16
Bitcoin is a very valuable digital currency so we must be careful with Bitcoin. Over the course of a few days we have seen the price of Bitcoin rise a lot and it is only a matter of time before the price of Bitcoin touches $100k. There are many investors who have been investing for a long period of time and have held the investment but this time they have made substantial profits.  Now, if his company had not cared about Bitcoin, they would not have made such huge profits this time.
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November 25, 2024, 12:32:17 AM
#15

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if you are bullish on an asset and intends projecting it to the people in the society, its best to do it without trying to get another person involved in it in a manner that makes it look like you see the individual as a threat to bitcoin. Gary Gensle, peter Schiff and whichever anti bitcoin personality we have out there are just to be seen as mere noise makers that are not fortunate enough to have invested in bitcoin and because of that wants to see bitcoin crash so as to boost their ego for their lack of believe in bitcoin. trying to go at that on the media to tarnish whatever post or opinion they share will be a waste of energy and instead, it's best to use such energy in projecting bitcoin and continue in investing in bitcoin so after slamming them, it would not be that we ourselves don't even have the slightest quantity of bitcoin we are holding.

bitcoin represents freedom and doesn't need you to go word for word against the anti bitcoinnier. the best way to show that you value bitcoin is to buy, hold and maybe share your investment journey with people which can in the process bring others into the bitcoin ecosystem. if you have done that, let the media gossipers continue in their gossip and watch how bitcoin continue getting bullish and giving them what to talk about.
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November 24, 2024, 09:18:50 PM
#14
trying to fight media wont change things..

if you think some media gossip can kill bitcoin then you already dont understand bitcoin enough to realise that bitcoin can continue no mater what chatter is said in media

for instance peter Schiff has no sway/power over bitcoin. heck he is a gold lover but doesnt have much say in his own industry. so no point wasting energy on his silly thoughts.

however core devs can change bitcoin, and their thoughts, actions and discussions can change the path of bitcoin
if you want to defend bitcoin you need to review and scrutinise the bitcoin devs
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Mia's Creative
November 24, 2024, 05:46:14 PM
#13
For me one way to keep decentralisation in full positive impact and power. In the crypto space is to clear out FOMO because of it's effects on the network. Most big firms and investors are actually focused solely on profits and what they could benefit from the network and not necessarily being an enthusiast or a core supporter of the network.  

Decentralisation has it's undisputed importance and advantages and also, so does it have a couple of disadvantages. Sudden moves like buying or selling huge amounts that big firms usually make are usually accompanied by sudden shift in price too but it's effect is more intense because of the FOMO of retail holders.
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November 24, 2024, 05:08:36 PM
#12
That is a passive response. If you believe that bitcoin will win on its own merit, then you are correct. My point is that we can fight and win to put it on top faster.
Our only enemy here is misinformation. That is what kills bitcoin and what makes other people look the opposite way of bitcoin. That is all that we have to fight. People who are spreading misinformation just so it validates their hatred and skepticism to bitcoin are the ones we should take care of. But people who genuinely just don’t want to invest and expressing it on public? There’s nothing we can do about that. We can’t force them to do anything.

As per “market manipulation”, I don’t think that was the case back then. Even if it was, I don’t really know what would be the consequences for that. There are entities with a lot of bitcoins and unfortunately they hold the power to move the market. Again, nothing we really can do.

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November 24, 2024, 05:04:28 PM
#11
Education really is the key. No matter how many so-called experts try to discredit Bitcoin or doubt its future, if you’re well-informed, you won’t panic. It’s nothing new, FUD has been around for years, but look at how far Bitcoin has come despite all that noise. FUD and FOMO are part of the game, and honestly, not everyone will profit from Bitcoin investing. Some will fail so others can succeed, it’s just how markets work.

As for coins being moved or sold, with today’s larger trading volumes, it’s less likely to cause a massive crash. A small dip isn’t a crash, and Bitcoin’s market behaves differently from traditional stocks. What might seem massive to them is often just a regular fluctuation for Bitcoin.
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November 24, 2024, 05:03:56 PM
#10
Bitcoin is definitely true and mature, we will definitely fight for Bitcoin, it is the safest digital currency of the present time. Where we can feel peace by investing and it is possible to gain huge benefits, there is no doubt that others will present it in the same way as we present it.
Because Bitcoin is spread all over the world based on its own merits, those who are very worried about investing in Bitcoin are the bedbugs of this society.
If anyone criticizes it, we will definitely prove to them that Bitcoin is the best investment and is known as the safest and truest asset of this time, because you will be surprised when you look at the growth rate of Bitcoin. Only those who are stupid, they are afraid of taking risks, and only stupid people will say that Bitcoin is bad.
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November 24, 2024, 05:03:01 PM
#9
Bitcoin is not for everyone and not limited to the saboteurs criticizing the valuabilities of bitcoin.so let them be as Speculations about bitcoin is a free to say.
Perhaps there had been a lot of anti bitcoiners who had in time make a U-turn to embrace bitcoin even after much critics. Indeed Donald Trump of toddy contributing to this great level bitcoin is an obvious example.
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November 24, 2024, 04:23:28 PM
#8
grow some balls
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Thats funny coming from someone who was born today (as far as forum accounts go).  Cheesy

Youre a newbie who doesnt know shit about anything. We have veterans here who have been fighting for Bitcoin for over a decade. Where were you?
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November 24, 2024, 03:21:41 PM
#7
Here is a fine example of fake news:

https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-technical-analysis-btcs-short-term-correction-what-the-charts-reveal/

Published on a Sunday, no author byline, no timestamp. Just copy/paste from an AI question: "Please write me an article about the bitcoin price crashing."

All the responses so far, seem like those of gutless cowards in mom's basement. Bitcoin may do well without your help, but grow some balls and at least agree that all the help we can give it will make it prosper faster and stronger. ~~~~
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November 24, 2024, 03:00:07 PM
#6
So what? They have full control over what they do and we just need to do what we are supposed to do because no matter how much we oppose what they do at the end of the day, things like this will not change as there will always be pros and cons to everything that is done.

They reject bitcoin because they have a goal for their own benefit and we cannot intervene in their choice because it is their right.
Our job now is just to do what we should do, regardless of those who speak badly or oppose I personally don't really care about that because when we try to argue there will be no bright spot from that so why do we try to argue because when someone has started to hate something (in this case bitcoin) regardless of the data or facts we provide they will not want to accept it.
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November 24, 2024, 02:50:45 PM
#5
That is a passive response. If you believe that bitcoin will win on its own merit, then you are correct. My point is that we can fight and win to put it on top faster.

You can. Anyone can battle this thing however they want.  But if you feel compelled that you gotta speak out against some fool, then follow your gut.  We each pick our own way to scrap and  just cause Peter Schiff talks trash dont mean Ill give him the time of day. 

Bitcoin is fine without any one person.  Best way to stand behind it is use it, teach folks about it, give back what you can...

So yeah you wanna call out the BS from Peter Schiff, be my guest.  Just dont expect we all join the cause.
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November 24, 2024, 12:24:55 PM
#4
The best fight we have had so far as bitcoiners is to snub the negative words and thoughts we have had from those who don't visualize Bitcoin as a digital currency the same way we do, to ride on with our accumulation of Bitcoin cause the end will justify the means, as most of us are anticipating to be among the millions of people Bitcoin will make millionaires by 2025
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November 24, 2024, 12:16:41 PM
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That is a passive response. If you believe that bitcoin will win on its own merit, then you are correct. My point is that we can fight and win to put it on top faster.
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November 24, 2024, 11:59:59 AM
#2
Well , truth is even with all this evils as you have said , Bitcoin still stands strong!
I don't think we have anything to fight against, not everyone would like Bitcoin or wish for Bitcoin to become a success.
We just have to let Bitcoin speak for itself, which is actually happening RN .
Bitcoin just hit  97k who expected it so soon??  Imagine what is to come! In the coming years and this favourable administration.
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November 24, 2024, 11:45:37 AM
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This board should have the will to fight and win for the value of bitcoin. We need to use the powers we have to defeat the evils that want to keep it down. I will list a few of the bad actors, and methods of combat.

- Peter Schiff: He makes profits on gold and fears that bitcoin will force him to sell his house and turn his daughters into prostitutes. He slams bitcoin but no other crypto because of his fear of the 'king coin'. Any media that quotes this desperate fool should be slammed hard. Comment on the articles that they are posting fake news by 'the desperate fool'.

- Gary Gensler: to be resolved Jan 20

- Dems and the DoJ: On Monday, July 29, 2024. The US government moved 29,800 of its total hoard of 230,000 coin. The FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) in the market caused the price to crash $3,000. This was two days after the Trump speech in Nashville. The speech and the hype up to it, had the price up to $70,000ish from the Mt Gox and Saxony crashes. I reported this to the FBI as either election fraud or market manipulation. They think I have a tin foil hat.

- Saxony: They sold criminal seized coin on the open market and we hope they learned a lesson. All public coin should have democratic policy about sales of criminal seized coin. This should apply to all countries including China.

- Paywall media: If you google 'bitcoin news', the top hits are media sites with bad news headlines that you can't read without a subscription.


There are many more to list. Please add. ~~~~
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