Topic: If you present the truth are you a shit stirring noob? Some DT1 says yes? (Read 617 times)

Why afraid to answer my question?

Did you say you experienced brain death resulting in what you estimate to be 10% less of your normal functioning prior ?

Yes or No?

Can you tell the truth?

The OG presenting PM or evidence where you admit or allude to other undesirable traits is not relevant at this stage whilst you are waiting, as I have explained 2x already. We will wait and see on that. Like i said I doubt that even you would be foolish enough to keep taking this up if there were any real truth there. It's not exactly something people will forgive and forget with. If you said it being sarcastic or there was a misunderstanding I have no idea.

The evidence for the brain death is already available for viewing by any person on the forum.

This point is related to the title but you've gone further than suchmoron in giving a negative trust where suchmoron claims he is not being negative by claiming presenting the truth is simply shit stirring which he says is a neutral comment.

Of course both of you are simply trying to punish and discourage people from telling the truth. Which is not what the trust system is intended for at all.

On top of this you and suchmoron are using the trust system to prevent legitimate warnings based on irrefutable independently verifiable evidence that demonstrate scamming aka lying and deception for financial gain. You both support scammers and are protecting them.

This you both don't even attempt to deny in any credible form of discussion and just run away or clearly ignore the questions asked of you.

You're perhaps not as bad as some since although I hear youre are a broke bum like the others ( although having been here before most )you don't seem driven by greed like them. Sadly you seem to be a lonely old fool that thinks having some pals on the internet is more important than being honest and doing the right thing. That is a big error.  Those types of people will stab you in the back as soon if it were ever financially advantageous for them to do so. Get a life and wake up.

I see you refuse to acknowledge that your trust abuse based upon an independently verifiable lie or mistake on your part is undeniable.
He is? Or he has? If its he is then the point stands. Even if he does not come through...whoops I lost the record. No provable lie. Not remotely as robust as the clear case against your trust abuse.

Anyway it is undeniable the trust system is fatally flawed and is now simply a protection racket than enables DT1 scumbags to scam with impunity and prevent legitimate warnings. Along with a host of other grossly negative problems.

Once I realized the forum had shrunk to having an average of 200 members online at one time it is now clear it is not as important as I had originally thought. Very sad to see.
As always not one person can attempt to present any credible defense for the trust system that does not immediately crumble once subjected to mild scrutiny.

So because you can lie as a basis for a red tag you just want to hand out, then I should be concerned if OG had allegedly said something about you that he has not as yet provided any proof of?

Your lie is there. It is independently verifiable. You said you suffered brain death with what you estimated 10% reduced function.
You then say that I am lying for saying you suffered brain death ..as a basis for a tag.


Like many of the red tags you give out they are bogus and dangerous.
You also block flags against undeniable scammers.
I do not trust you since along with that you seem to be very friendly and praise 2 proven scammers.
1 of which you have previously admitted you were scared to tag because they would tag you back and ruin your account.

How you ever hope to prove you did not or never did admit to OG you are a pedo is impossible.
You could argue he needs to produce evidence or it is an unsubstantiated claim. That is entirely different. Even that does not prove he is lying that you admitted it to him.

I can't say either way what you have told OG previously.  However since you can't remember telling the entire board who cared to read you suffered brain death and 10% reduced function then...

Why would you even bring this up again? I have seen others mention you in that light on here but have not seen any proof of that myself.
I doubt you would keep going one about such a thing if there was some truth in it.
However you are a trust abusing scammer supporter and enabler so that is primary focus with you scumbag.

Anyway you can't say you can tell independently verifiable lies as a basis for red trust just because you claim others have done so to you.

You're having this fantasy on 20 x other threads stop dragging my threads off topic.

You're still avoiding the fact you are trust abusing my account.

Did you say you suffered brain death resulting in a what you estimate to be a reduced function by around 10%

Yes or no?

Since you are terrified to answer , can't stay on topic and clearly have serious memory issues or are a lying scumbag then why should anyone listen to you? Same as all the other DT scammer protectors and broke down bums abusing peoples trust for telling inconvenient truths about you.

Have another drink and enjoy your weekend alone watching tv.

Posting the truth results in red tags and flags here currently. No small wonder this forum is a shadow of what it was previously.

How terrible you should be requested to shun a confirmed scammer and a confirmed imbecile who is also an auction scammer who both collaborated together to attempt a serious extortion.
That reminds me actually there is one thread that really has gone unappreciated for far too long.
It is interesting that theymos would allow such a concentration of putrid filth to infest DT and pervert it to protect scammers and punish whistle blowers.

If you ask any questions about things DT1 members want to remain hidden they immediately try to shit you down using the trust system.
The fact that option is open to them is a catastrophic and total failure from a trust system.
That's ignoring the other huge gaping holes and exploits.

The truth is my only agenda, and yes you and I have had run ins because you are a liar. I get you are the main beneficiary of this DT circlejerk and spamfest that theymos is for some reason letting outweigh any actual contributions to Bitcoin, but it’s only a matter of time before either this community starts acting right or becomes so irrelevant that nobody is left. You think paying spammers makes you a positive member here...

Don’t let me stop you from making more false claims about me. I have been donating funds to this community and several others for nearly a decade, protected tens of millions of dollars for users here, and sell precious metals for below spot price on occasion. Clearly I’m the one we should be hating on as not being a contributing member of good here. This is why DT is a joke.

Why is it that every time you speak out about a group of people in DT you make claims like "they do everything they can to hurt anyone who refuses to go along with their agenda" when this is literally what you yourself do? I have, and have posted, screenshots of you telling me that unless I stop being friends with the likes of TMAN & Lauda you would send messages to my Signature Campaign clients and try to get me fired? As a matter of fact you even did message one of them.. Quite interesting. But hey how about you insult me now and disregard what I just said, deflect > attack > win

It is sad that DT has been infiltrated by a group of window lickers who do everything they can to hurt anyone who refuses to go along with their agenda. It has completely destroyed the DT system and damaged the credibility of this site. With no sign of theymos stepping in to actually combat the issue, I fear this site will continue it’s spiral into irrelevance.

Okay I understand now the pharmacist remark. Misunderstanding

I hope to achieve the answer to the question.

If you ask a question that is entirely grounded in indisputable truth that any member can verify then should you be punished via the trust system as a shit stirring noob ?

I mean surly a DT1 telling lies about requesting his friends (who he says he has given money to) to reject flags for his sponsor is not appropriate to remain on DT1. The fact he for a long period has been friends with and there is documented evidence of him colluding with other documented liars and scammers on DT1.
It appears DT1 will attack any person that whistle blows or mentions other DT1 proven dishonest and dangerous behaviors.
This is clearly a flaw in the trust system that needs to be fixed.
There needs to be measures in place where members can not be punished for presenting truths that are independently  verifiable.  
That is where theymos needs to act ..
When since does a trust system serve scammers and liars to punish whistleblowers?

Probably because of your nick, Laudanum is a medicine which was popular in 19th century but as it cause more harm than good it is somehow restricted^[1].

May I ask you what exactly do you want to accomplish with this topic?

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[1]Oh, the irony...

We missed you cryptohunter, not really!
I was expecting more from you and something New or anything New that you would complaining.
But again with DT and same bla bla things, it's getting boring CH.

And another Alt Account from you goes straight on the ignore list.

If new indisputable evidence of DT1 lying and manipulating the trust system to encourage collusion and support their sponsor they shill.for is the same old shit then you are leaning in the correct direction.
Your opinion will be vital since by your own insistence your opinions are not based on reason.
The only saving grace is that you are not spamming some gambling sig all over the board.

There used to be, but we all collectively decided that we'd had enough of this drama and retired into our respective holes. In fact, I'm only coming out of mine to see if this is an exciting new drama or just the same tired old shit again (I'm leaning toward the latter).

Ah, same old suchmoron.
Refuses to explain and then runs away and hides when you start to hammer out the details of it's claims.
Not one for details or getting specific suchmoon. Had to learn the hard way though.

Try reading before posting maybe. I literally said in the post you quoted that it's shit. It was fixed with a tilde and no stirring by noobs is required. So thank you for your service but nobody needs it except your little farm. Well, a rather large farm by now, what is it - 10th account or thereabouts?

Crap, forgot to put the moran on ignore.

Touchy touchy.

It seems suchmoon does not want to accept that indisputable evidence of lying by a DT1 is not shit.
Also why are you trying to avoid explaining this post?



Is that shit too? Can you explain?
We mustn't worry about peoples opinions of us personally. The greater good of the forum is what is important.
So you deny lfcbitcoin was telling lies? Contrary to the proof presented? I see, it's just shit.  
Like you deny you are Croatian?

Come on suchmoon enough speculation I only deal with Independently verifiable truths. . I don't want your imbecile mind to crack and you get all "caustic" and start "self debunking" almost instantly.

We've been getting on great recently didnt you know? Perhaps you didnt.

This guy is not a noob, and I'd bet the house on it if I owned a house.  

Suchmoon is right about the shit-stirring part, however.  If for some reason OP is not an alt account of cryptohunter, I would suggest he read Meta and Reputation from about December 2018 on, which is when I started this thread as a plea for help from my fellow members during the time when the level of trolling in those sections was rampant.  I would also suggest that OP pay attention to the fact that jack shit was done about any of the complaints and Theymos remained silent throughout (for the most part).  

In other words, just stop this nonsense right now; it's not going to get you anywhere.

Seriously.  It also makes me wonder where Lauda has gone off to.  TMAN as well.

I have nothing to add to this topic, I just wanted to say that I didn't think you could get any worse at picking names for your alts.. At this point you might as well just stick to one name and end them with different numbers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Because it's shit and you're stirring it.


Neutral label on your shitnoob account is not punishment.


There is nothing for admins to investigate or for trolls to post pages of shit about. There is no positive outcome from any of these garbage threads you're starting with your new accounts. Good luck getting your 10 voting merits.


There's a tilde for that.


I don't think you will. You've already been told by theymos that he's not interested in your nonsense. And cobra probably doesn't know or care about your existence either.

That's your food for today. Make it last.

I seek clarity on why asking for explanation or discussion of confirmed facts that impact on the safety members  is shit stirring?
I want to know why you feel the need to punish members for discussing very important and pertinent facts which could lead to honest members being scammed.
You I note have stated lfcbitcoin deliberately attempted to misrepresent your discussion to a point you even have stated you felt the need to exclude him. Are you a shit starter or were you lying? Why object to my thread asking for deep investigation by admins and meta members and their opinions ?
This type of member is not suitable for DT1. After looking there due to a relationship from the betting site I use I will expect they must now remove this shill lcfbitcoin due to being a confirmed liar and also giving trust inclusion for favorable flagging support.
This is not an honest member.  Asking for action from cobra and theymos to investigate is not shit stirring.
Is scammer hunting shit stirring?  Who cares if I'm a noob or elder member if we discuss what any person can see themselves.
Your choice of words is clearly meant as a punishment for highlighting the truth and ask for some action here. This should be looked at. I will hear what cobra and theymos say after deeper investigation.
100btc is laughable most elder members who are only suitable for DT1 would have many more. That 100 batch can be kept as reserve  to ensure they are always without pressure to give in to temptation or pressure to be dishonest. Why do you need over 100 Dt1 this is madness removes sensible accountability and now any noob with no btc and only been here a few months with no trading history or any value to the account can be DT1. Crazy.

Why marlboroza saying i will be the pharmacist? I am not the pharmacist or if you mean taking drugs then nope.

You should have just named your new account presenting_the_truth, because its what you do best, according to you, anyway.





There are 31 instances of the use of "presenting the truth" on the forum, and your various accounts wrote 26 of them, lol. Are you sure you're going to "restore some modicum of sanity"? That isn't exactly your forte.

It's becoming boring to watch all these fake shit stirring noob accounts coming out of nowhere knowing everything posting in serious topics just to add more fuel to fire, post from your real account and no one will call you fake shit stirring noob.
According to the pharmacist, DT has to be someone who has account since 2012-2014. Vod, I am sorry but I have to tell you, you are 2011. noob DT police member.

"Noob" DT police.. love it!

It's not a negative, you dingleberry. It's a neutral. If you consider shit-stirring a positive character trait then there is no reason to be concerned. If you don't then perhaps you should stop creating new accounts to stir shit. Post from your 2012 account, sign a message with 100 BTC, enjoy the limelight.

I read this thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54870534
I bring a sensible question based on confirmed and established facts to meta.
A DT1 member is caught lying about requesting other members they have previously paid to influence flagging in a way they desire to support their sponsor.
That same DT1 member is also caught adding them to his trust inclusions if they support his flagging preferences for his sponsor.
Now another DT1 new member suchmoon ( who says lfcbitcoin lied or misrepresented their conversation)  has given me a negative trust comment  saying that means I am a shit stirring noob.
Is this how bitcointalk operates now and are these the kind of DT1 noob members  you have to police and protect honest members.
How can presenting the truth be grounds for a negative trust comment.
Why are DT1 members all sponsored by mixing and gambling sig trash.
Where are the elder financially independent members that are not needing to shill for this trash.
This is a clear conflict of interest.
Surely there are some elder members remaining with some skin in this game.
I would not trust any DT needing to whore their sig out.
Does cobra still own this forum ? What happens to it? This trust system is the design of scammer or charlatan.
I see OGnasty is now one of the bad guys according to noob DT police.
Thanks my dear friends I can't wait to work along with you all to restore some modicum of sanity to this once great board.