Topic: If you were to create your own society, small or big, what would it look like? (Read 303 times)

I would like to know if a public servant who lives off my taxes is using stock options issued by Pfizer as curtains.

There is a really really simple solution to your concerns:  There is no law making someone have to be a public servant.  If they want privacy, pick a different occupation.  Pick it from the get-go too because anyone who has the cycle-time through the revolving door should be 25 years or so.  Best to pick public service as a career path early and stay with it.

And best to bid on contracts which are a LONG way from public use consumption because the long tenticles of the surveillance apparatus developed (highly) to keep the plebs under control, and in broad use against us right now, will crawl right up your ass in a hurry and be difficult to dis-lodge if you get to close.

For starters not seeking membership at any of the criminal organization existing in the world like Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC)
This is now over 11 years old and is another enlightenment moment, also explains somewhat why sick Billy wants to be a farmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsJt1uoAXN4
Everything is fine and tanty, carry on

taliban are just angry ex-homeowners with guns. angry because they lost everything by western invasion.
they have no tactical skills or training..

if you want security. anyone can hold a gun.. but try someone that knows kung-fu or kickboxing. and has tactical experience.
EG if a paparazzi was shot by a angry ex-homeowner with a vendetta. just because they were stalking you,.. well, because you hired him expect alot of legal pain in the form of lawsuits and criminal charges.
however hire a guy that can restrain and put a guy to the ground without a shot fired. alls fair, self defense.

that said.
small communities might seem good from the outside. but have you ever tried to live in these elite 'gated' communities.
they think they are the law. .. cant have lawn grass over 2 inches long. cant water sprinkler the lawn during the day. cant have music or parties after 8pm.
muslim gated communities demand women cover their skin and make other overly-obedient laws for control of woman

small communities end up knowing too much about their neighbours and find any small reason to snitch on a neighbour

having a wider community dilutes the cesspool of snitching and rule making and instead tries to limit how many laws exist because the community is more broader and not all rules can fit all the community. so there are less rules by default.

EG not everyone can afford a gardener. so in a wider community of poor and elite. there are no elitist rules
EG in a small elitist community. standards and rules are higher to fend off letting the poor in.
EG in a small poor community. rules are made to fend off elitist 'takeover' of hard earned property.

the issue with society is not that laws are too wide or too tight. its that laws need to actually be reasonable and actually have an effect on the purpose for the rules.

EG car speeding laws. instead of making it a law that a car driver will be fined $1000 for speeding over 100mph. make it a rule that no public road worthy car can actually reach 100mph, using using speed limiter devices. and another rule that the fine is more then $1000 for damaging, tampering, removing the limiter.

that way the rules actually do stop people insanely speeding to cause an accident where they are fined after the damage is already done. and actually prevents speeding to prevent damage being done in the first place

its about having laws that fit the purpose of the activity that should not be acceptable

A cool picture of this inner my head is all I can imagine.
Since violence is what people don't like hate and respect, I'd want to use the Taliban's as my securities.
If not the Taliban's almost agressive as they're.

i think her name is Karen. every town has one. i think they clone them in a test-tubes and impregnate them into feminists

I would make sure it has a gayborhood, every place needs one.
https://rumble.com/vrvfmo-when-you-accidentally-walk-through-the-wrong-gayborhood.html

Well, one can argue that'd be artificial selection, as anybody capable of believing a single word that comes out of that guy's mouth is a serious candidate for the Darwin Award. But, yeah, I get your point and agree with it.
In December 2004, Gary Webb, reporter who uncovered a conspiracy by the CIA to smuggle cocaine into the US, "committed suicide" by shooting himself twice in the head, and nobody thought much about it. There was even a documentary  film in 2014 ("Kill The Messenger") about the whole thing.
Clinton categorically said he "did not have sex with that woman!" and we all know how that ended, don't we?
Obama said "he wasn't aware" of what happened at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, and everybody chose to believe him. Not ONE of the torturers on either site is in prison.
Bush almost bankrupted the country by re-entering "Daddy's War" under false pretenses, and nothing happened.
Yet Eliot Spitzer (incidentally after raising a stink about what would become the 2008 crisis) had a party with some hookers, and they hung him by the balls.

Yeah, politics are a dirty game...

partially agree with this..
however its the accounts of spending that should be made public for the public funded 'servants/contractors'. this does not mean everything they do in life should be made public. EG no laws prohibiting public servants from using window curtains. i know some people want to know what public servants genitals look like or how many hip thrusts it takes for a public servant to ejaculate. but this is not anything to do with the use of public funds

no one should have their personal lives made public..

the thing i find completely sad about modern democracy in politics.. a public servant can be made/forced to resign over petty things like cheating on a spouse or making an inappropriate joke. but if that same public servant lied about something political or caused harm to citizens by using his role to make something jokable/harmful as official policy. he is not made to leave office.

EG trump was not put on trial for telling people to drink bleach or eat lightbulbs..(affects and harms general public)
yet other politicians lost their positions for having extra marital affairs(nothing to do with general public)

make a comment about jewish people where no jews are physically harmed . resignable offence
make a comment about wanting to bomb another country(N.korea/middle east) because of their religion/culture. no action

I think in my own world, liberal democracy would have been practiced. And will be no bride price but they must be approval by the parents.

'Open'.  FULL transparency.  Society is what it looks like, and it looks like what it is.

 - People who make the choice to live off other people's 'taxes' either as 'public servants' or contractors have VERY limited privacy.  The systems developed for tracking the plebs can be turned around and re-purposed.

 - People who make their own living by supplying what other people want voluntarily have vastly more privacy protections than they enjoy in most current societies.

2000 years ago there were many civil wars. italy pretty much created the romans to fight against the many religions in neighbouring lands(egypt, africa, europe, middle east). the emperors and their scholars(later named priests and bishops) began making new laws. that lawbook became 'christian bible' by telling a different camp fire story about how the middle easts laws should be taught in story form at camp fires.

before christianity. rome was a republic, with a senate and a leader..  and even they had laws about what people should wear, though most of the laws were word of mouth not written scripture.
but when finally written down, even in christianity. they had female dress code too


christianity had 2 factions. the 'god fearing' and the 'peaceful god' groups. the god fearing were the extremists that would punish shave womens hair if they didnt cover it. it took hundreds of years to calm those extremists. many civil wars. and lots of fighting.

so christianity has had its extremists too. even today in modern times there are still sexist idiots using the bible to popularise that men are better then woman, thinking a christian womans place is in the kitchen

Sharia law is the most authoritarian form of religious governance. Protecting women by beating them if they disobey their spouse, or forcing them to wear head garments, sounds very democratic. Unsurprisingly, every Islamic theocracy there's been has turned into a hell hole.

For starters no politician, they are nothing but parasites making a good living form others hard work.
It is nothing but crazy paying somebody who then tells you what you can and can not do. There is no law but creator laws and thats it.

I will prefer small Society because it will be easy to handle and control, you can easily set law. I will prefer Sharia law because it give comfort to everyone in the society and no one is Above the Law, Muslim Christian Jewish etc. Anyone who live in a society where there is Sharia law, and they will be safe from any harm. Women will be respected, children will be discipline, marketplace will be conducted well, transaction will move smoothly no corruption, no harassment etc.
Note: Sharia law cover all aspect of life from the beginning to the end.

I like this question and your ideas.
I'm American  and  grew up watching Star Trek so the ideal and example of equality and respect for differences was something I took for granted (and mistook for truth).
The idea of non-conquering exploration, science as a way of life, merit of skill and experience combined with the individual as being part of a larger "whole"...
because no matter how remote you are the choices of the rest of the world (and universe) affects you.
For now we can only strive to rise to those ideals.

My imaginary society would be structured like Star Trek Discovery but in a time without need for political structure (or wars to fight) and love for or non belief in God would never be used as weapon against each other.


In reality, if we little people held our governments accountable to us and created laws slanting towards people instead corporate interests: collectively, we might thrive more quickly
but here we are in the age our ancestors will look back on and... wonder why we didn't do better or with the forgiveness of knowing we simply hadn't evolved past our egos yet
and did the best we could with the mental capacity we were working with? ;-)

the way the big guys do it. they break the area into regions and have a representative for each region that control the region.. the question then becomes. does this representative represent the communities wishes. or the leaders wishes.

the corruption is when the representatives represent the leader not the populous, to over control the community to the point of corruption. or when the representatives represent the populous too lax that they look away from law breaking and despirado's

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so its not a matter of how big a community is. but about its representation/leader.. is the representation too controlling or too lax

I will rather create a small society that can be controllable by me because there is no point in having a large community that you cannot control.
Leading a large number of people is always very difficult,and hard to do,therefore a small society of reasonable people is accepted by me.

Corruption in the society today is not coming from a small society,because a small society has rules and guildlines that people live under,but a large society is full of law breakers and despirado's.So a small society is much preferable by me.

If I should  create my own society it will be the society of small one so that I'll be able to regulate the society to my own taste. It will be a society of good conduct and everyone will exhibit good lifestyle.

careful what you wish for NRA will translate that to be:
'we love guns so show us your compassion and let us shoot where we please'


equal rights for all man..
                ..for all man..
                         ..man..
i think your missing something

Awesome, love this!

Contracts.
Marriage contracts, Business contracts like garbage collection times..., security contracts (or co-operations in countryside) ........

Welcome                                                       I you not for me i am not for you

If I should create my own society it will be a society full of love and compassion for one another. I will make sure there won't be discrimination of any factor because this is one of the challenge the real society is facing.

It will be a society of equal rights for  all man, and who ever breaks a law we serve it's consequences no matter the status. Lastly it will  be a society of peace. But unfortunately a society can't be like that, life is made up of good and bad people,  so the society can't be good without bad. So don't think the society can be 100% good.

ok you first. bye.

meanwhile the "over population" is not a natural land mass available problem. its a capitalist land ownership advert to sell at a premium. if a city sckyscaper owner says "overpopulation" what they really mean is :
'my property can be partitioned in half so i can sell it as 2x mini apartments for more money"

Just wondering. Are you Bill Gates?     

It is easy.

1. Restrict reproduction, maintain less than 50M population on Earth.
2. Protect the environment, violators and all their living relatives would be executed.
3. Institute free-market capitalism, with a democratically elected, one global government.
4. Make science education a priority.
5. Make people with low IQ or genetic defects sterile so that they cannot reproduce.
6. Eliminate violent crimes by executing violators and all their living genetic relatives.
7. Stratify society based on IQ and skill/merit.

Over time, you will have a less violent, more educated, more intelligent society that will be able to survive
indefinitely.

If I create my society
I'll choose the small one
 why? Cause it's hard to manage the big one.
I'll start a small society because it became a big one in the end.
It looks like a Paradise

Yeah sure I guess you could do that. I’m mainly focusing on reality and real life societies where people could actually create something that would be livable for a society of humans , whether it’s here or 1000 light years away. If you know the physics of planets/conditions in Alpha-Centauri go ahead and let everyone know. Even if you don’t feel free to make a post too, as it will have some basis in reality still even if there’s some non-fiction mixed in as well.   

If you were to create your own society, small or big, what would it look like?


From Alpha-Centauri? Without a telescope?

Mine would be just me in a very remote, deserted, tropical island, with a lifetime supply of cheeses and coca-cola. 

If you were to create your own society, small or big, what would it look like? Feel free to post just a few main points or go in depth on what it would look like/how it would function. Desert terrain, multiple different types of terrain, large building, only wood buildings, gender norms, car/boat/auto regulations, curfews or policing? I’d like to hear some of your ideas on this!

Here’s how a society I created might look…

1) No gender norms, so cooking, cleaning, household duties as far as being gender stereotyped, or being a “house wife” would be out the window. If someone mentioned a gear head, there’s an equal chance it could be a man or a women.

2) All organic forms of farming. All the products added to natural foods and engineering better foods is damaging to the human body and making us evolve in a weird way. Think of 2000 years from now if we keep eating GMOs, using growth hormones, and eating processed foods, how are systems will look compared to if all we ate was organic foods. I’m sure humans are going to be more plastic than biological at that point sooner or later if we continue down the track of the foods we eat now.

3) No clothing norms. Guys can wear skirts and do girl things without being ridiculed or looked at as weird. Obviously most girl things are that for a reason because if guys did that same stuff it would be awkward and strange as hell. But having clothing norms really puts boundaries on the progression of society as it limits intellectual curiosity and exploration in many ways. Limiting ideations like intellectual curiosity, the ability to expand on something with the mind, or the process of furthering one’s knowledge/understanding based on societal norms is a sad biproduct of todays world and it doesn’t look like it will change anytime soon. In fact any hinderance on intellectual progression for humans doesn’t really make sense to me, so long as we are talking about legal and ethical topics and not having classes on how to murder people in their sleep or steal money from stores without them knowing. How to build pipe bombs and get them through airport security or anything like that wouldn’t make any sense at all. I’m sure if their were no clothing norms, society as an entire world would be a lot more progressed, less violence in the world, more structured and useful learning in colleges and educational classrooms, as well as more creative and constructive production of goods and services around the world too.

4) Skill based living instead of networking/connections/who you know types of set ups and “scratch your back I’ll scratch yours” types of work environments . The only way you can get to a specific field or work up to a title is if you are skilled enough and beat out the other competition. As in you have your title because you are the best in that field and there is nobody above you that is better than you in your field, anyone else in your field who is less skilled than you has a lower and less distinguished title than you. This means that anyone in positions they currently shouldn’t be at would have to go and find something else they could work towards and make a living off of, or drop down in the pay scale and worker status and live a different type of life. There are too many people in positions that they shouldn’t be in today because there was a lack of competition in their hiring process, and it shows in the work they do and how society functions around those people. A society purely based on skill based living would be faster, more productive, and knowledgeable in a way that wouldn’t put a strain on anyone to work harder than they needed to. There would be more time for people to enjoy life instead of working and grinding in offices, buildings, and small enclosures trying to make a living. It would honestly be the way to live as you are going off you as a person and not something you are portraying or acting like.

5) 24/7 businesses run through night time are common place. Restaurants, stores, fitness centers, banks, accounting businesses, food trucks, all would be common place to run through night into the AM and morning. People think being healthy is going to bed at night and waking up in the morning, eating breakfast, and going through a full and productive day. But if you want to be super healthy, like to the point where you’re not worried about your health at all, you should be able to go through nights partying, working, watching TV, cooking, driving, working out, then being able to stay up late like this and not have it affect your schedule shouldn’t be much of s problem. As far as continuously staying up late into the night I’m not sure health wise would be good as everyone needs a proper amount of sun/daylight per day for proper functioning, but in a society with more 24/7 businesses running their would be a large enough group of people to keep them running successfully and without any problems.