Topic: Ignorantic criticisms is tantamount to regression to achievements. (Read 230 times)

Talking about smokers, the WORLD HEALTH ORGANISATION(WHO) has warned that smoker are liable to die young, this is because smoking has a tendency of destroying your lungs and kidney, so our parents where right in cautioning us about the danger's of smoking, so for the fact that you've developed the interest to smoke doesn't change the facts on ground. However for those naysayers that started castigating about bitcoin in those early years where having the fear of the unknown, maybe because the Bitcoin was just new in the market hence the unnecessary apprehension. However over the years, bitcoin has continued to prove them wrong, but this cannot be said to be the same with cigarette 🚬 smoking, as it has over the years shown that it has no health benefits unlike bitcoin that has grown in value economically.

OP since the context of this thread relates to social life, it would have suited better in the politics and society section. That not withstanding, everyone has the right to live whichever life they want to live so far you don't act based on influence of what you do or what you engage in. Smoking is not bad but it should be controlled so that you don't become a chain smoker and cause a lot of environmental hazard to the society and people around you. The reason why most people see smokers as people who have bad energy and bad influence is basically because most of those who commit crimes and other social hazards are addicted smokers and they literally use smoking as a kind of morale booster for them to be able to carry out any operation they want to without fear of any kind. You can be a smoker and still valuable to the society but the truth is just that the society views smokers as those with negative and bad influence and it is difficult to change that narrative.

Come on, guys! Give him a break.  He probably knows that smoking kills, and what he meant by "healthy smoker" is that he smokes and is currently healthy, which doesn't mean that he doesn't know the side effects of smoking.

@OP, even though I agree and understand what you are trying to explain here, I can't help but agree with others about the smoking example being completely irrelevant in this situation. The reason why our parents and elders tell us that smokers are a bad influence and we shouldn't be friends with them or stay in such environments is because they know it's a bad thing, and they don't want us to become smokers when we grow up since it's injurious to our health.

Anyway, getting to the main point of discussion. It's indeed ignorance if someone creates a perspective about something only by hearing what others have to say about it instead of doing their own research and finding clear and correct information about that thing. If I'm married, and someone comes to me and tells me that my wife is cheating on me without showing me concrete proof that cannot be false, I shouldn't react compulsively immediately until I do my own research and find the actual truth.

It is amazing how wrong information and bad stereotypes can affect how we think and make decisions. Your story about smoking and bitcoin is great example. You used to think smokers were bad people and bitcoin was scam but then you learned more and realized that was not true. It is great that you did not judge without knowing facts and that you are telling people to ask questions and learn and take smart risks. Even famous people like Kevin O'Leary and Ray Dalio changed their minds about bitcoin after learning more. Your story shows that we should be open minded and think critically and be willing to learn and adapt.

OP it is laughable when you said you're a healthy smoker but if I may ask does such terms exist in real life? If it does, I don't think most tobacco companies will find it necessary to write on the product that smokers and liable to die young, I want you to understand that before those companies write things like as I mentioned, they would've considered things and also know that a smoker might consider taking something in other to avoid the health problems thats associated with smoking but the thing is the content of the tobacco you take as smoke never changes, so no matter the pills you take as a smoker to prevent the health effect of smoking, just know that as time goes by your body system will be adapting to those drugs thereby making it inefficient and as so doing it may not work again in your body system and you know wrhat that means to your health generally. Have you also forgotten that cigarette contains, tar, carbon monoxide and nicotine, I come to understand that smokers concentrate on only nicotine as the content of this cigarette may be because of the few benefit it has but forgetting that it's also responsible for smoking addiction.

People with the basic knowledge of medical or biological science understands what carbon monoxide means, this is a very dangerous gas that can suffocate an individual within a few second, very harsh, tar is also another dangerous substance though it's used in making dyes and other things too but its a cancinogen, that's why smokers usually have lungs cancer, throat cancer, bladder cancer and many more so buddy I know that no one can decide for anyone on what to do but the thing is there's nothing like a healthy smoker anywhere, it is just a matter of time the result of the health problems of smoking will start surfacing, so let's be guilded on this to alleast maintain a good health.

In the aspect of Bitcoin, people will always castigate things normally but the way you relate this two things doesn't make sense to me, are you trying to say that people should test smoke before the can have something to say about it, Bitcoin is an investment smoking is not an investment for smokers rather an investment for the manufacturers and distributora so how does this relate, I appreciate the time you took in writing this stuff but I totally disagree with you on using smoke as a case study on your write up, though it's my opinion and I stand  to be corrected, am also open to learning more.

Yeah and today I'm a responsible and hardworking criminal now how does that sound in your ears?. There's nothing like a healthy smoker, some people might need smoking medically for whatever reasons but that doesn't make it healthy. There are others that their body have a strong immune to smoking and it does them no harm but most people are going to be affected from smoking either now or in the future so it isn't good neither is it healthy to smoke. It doesn't matter what you claim to be smoking and it's benefits to you, stop it today. Criticizing about smoking is different from when Bitcoin investors are being criticized but your message is heard loud and clear bjt don't ever say there's something healthy about smoking.

Without the mean of being biased on the context of this post, please let's not be centered at a point but also look other accompanied of it.
Hence the key point of the post states "don't Jump in conclusion of that you don't know", I also expect that after having your insight on the side of the smoking aspect, you should also turn out the other page at the mentioned of bitcoin.
So obvious how negative news flies while positive news dies within.
That's exactly how we had most of bitcoin unbelievers form the beginning as a cause of contamination of false news from the other anti bitcoiners to those like us formally who never knew anything about bitcoin but we adjoined to conclusion and blindly following the news that bitcoin was worthless to invest on and also a scam.
Tell what you know, consult and research on that which you don't know before concluding.
So smoking might actually be unhealthy but doesn't make the smokers bad people or criminal minded just as how we were told about them which was refered to as the false talk about bitcoin.

Everyone with how they justified things within them their means and like i know that is a wrong way of justification. And yes you are right!
Most people mislead their follows due to wrong interpretation, just as you said. Parents should openly say that smoking is wrong but not by saying those who smokes are wrong people, to me there are two compound words here were trying to make those who smoke as wrong people while entirely smoking is wrong to our health and affects our lungs (the smoker and smokes itself).

Hey op I don't think these two comparison fits together as I think smoking is extremely dangerous to our health than comparing it to how bitcoin is being criticised. We can used other thing but not in terms of smoking and even though you are not facing any health challenges now because your smoking level is not high were it would cause health issues to you doesn't mean you would start thinking that smoking is good.

Sincerely, smoking is extremely dangerous to our health and of course your parents were right about what they said to you concerning smokers; I can also reference to the cigarette packet were it's written that smokers are liable to die young. With this, we can also say that even the producers of cigarettes knows that it's dangerous to our hearts and overall health performance, and I wouldn't want to say that someone is proud of being a smoker which I know it's not something we should applause you for being a smoker.

Moved down to bitcoin investment; everyone has different view of how they sees bitcoin, to me I can say it's lack of knowledge and ignorant that made them not to know how important bitcoin is or how quickly the world is gradually change from what we usually knows to other phase of life, where the must focuses is now digitalization. Of course with time those who doesn't buy the ideas of bitcoin such as government and many other influencer has just suddenly became bitcoin friendly people, which these people are those who were against bitcoin but today we all celebrate and embracing bitcoin as of the most useful digital currency out there.

OP, I don't know if I understood you correctly, but the expression "healthy smoker" makes me laugh out loud . Tobacco, smoking, and other crap can't be a healthy thing. And it just takes time for you to understand that you are very wrong about smoking not being harmful. Although... I don't care; I'm not trying to convince anyone; it's your life.

Comparing Bitcoin to smoking is an even more stupid and incompatible thing. But people tend to reject what they don't understand. This has been proven. Even now, there are things that humanity doesn't believe in, doesn't believe because it can't explain what exists.

But as for Bitcoin, I understood one thing: it's like the wind that penetrates every crack. Where minds are closed, it is not yet a value, but those who open the windows breathe deeply.

Normally, It is always in the human nature to criticise things, especially things that are new, that are not well known. This human character also has its advantage and disadvantage. This attitude sometimes helps one to know things better about something. There are some people who don't really have doubts about so many things , and when they rush into it they come to know it is not really what they thought it was. For me I think if you believe in things to much you may end up getting into scam, it takes time to know something better and at this points it will be so hard to make mistakes.

You don't expect everyone to accept Bitcoin so quick then when it was created, the delay of some people was to know it better first before they could accept it.

Yeah! When I was younger, I have always believed that smokers are liable to dead young, just the same way it was boldly written on it pack. But now I have come to understand that  with consistent intake, they will develop a severe health issues, so the intake should be minimized.
Lots of people have given up on their dreams and aspirations just because of some criticism about it, one lesson I have learnt is: go for whatever makes you happy as long as it does not cause harm to you, and people around you. Chase that dream because you never can tell the outcome until you have ventured in. Risk the Risky!

While I do not like tobacco, telling people that "smokers are bad people" in order to discourage them from smoking is blanket wrong. They should've told you guys that the act of smoking is bad because it destroys your lungs eventually.. This sounds to me that people were trying to overly display their morality by telling you that some other kind of people are bad.

You used a good illustration to explain your position. My society has taught us that those who use marijuana are criminals and that's how most people still see them. But I know many marijuana users who are morally sound than most non-users.

The summary of your writeup is that you shouldn't conclude about anything except you have investigated it. Before now the government and most law enforcement agents see crypto users as scammers. But with the spread of crypto awareness, they are gradually changing their views. That is why we don't speculate or assume a concept, verification is important.

Having many elderly smokers in your location is not a criterion that smoking is healthy. Have you considered investigating how many people are sick or have died due to smoking? There is nothing healthy about smoking.

Honestly it can be very wrong making a blind judgement over what we know nothing about but the truth remains that at every point in time people will tend to approach things differently, there are those that will be glad to be part of a development while there are those that will want to join later, and there are also those who will never join such development and it will remain that way, when bitcon came in to existence there are those who saw it as an opportunity of trying new thing while others where skeptical about it and today they  must have regret their actions. However, I must say that Bitcoin is now a light which everyone should see and live off from their darkness by embracing Bitcoin. It is never too late for those who has realized themselves because Bitcoin still a very long way to go.

My intention of involving smoking into this was to reference our daily lives activities with their false incites as same ignorantic measures that's also applied to the criticism of bitcoin adoption.
If you read me correctly, people tends to react easily to false rumours that's masterminded with negative threats just as said to my childhood that smokers are bad influencers with criminal minded.
The people who took this rumour personal as it goes viral had no ideal about smoke but because they're trying to be conscious so they don't fall it victims opts them to ignorantly believe that which they aren't sure of.
This was same applied on the viral speculations of bitcoin adoption which even those who has no single ideal about bitcoin also do speculates the wrong news even with their zero knowledge of it.
Talk more about the smoking, if I may ask, is smoking really an accomplice of criminal behaviors just as also criticized that bitcoin adoptors are doomed and losers as said my the anti bitcoiners which is the point of contact connecting smoking into this as a fact of people speculating unverified rumours.
Again, of course yes I'm live healthy. Moreover, in my locality, most liveth elderly ones are smokers just as my financial status was being elevated by my adoption of bitcoin for Investment. All negative rumours about smoking and adoption of bitcoin were all contrary at my venture and experience. Meanwhile I made it clear that my obsession here doesn't mean a negative incite.
I'm in all saying that people tends to ignorantly follows false and negative news while they are unknowledgeable towards the reality fact such as those bitcoin saboteurs as mentioned who later on make revert and denounced their wrong effects about bitcoin. I also had the smoking experience and didn't find any of those alleged negative characters but then, if smoking isn't good for your health then quit just as if you can't bear the risk of patient on investing in bitcoin, do also stay of but be it sure that it all depends on personal hygienic as your readiness to invest on bitcoin.

First of all, Smoking is bad based on science but if you chose to do it then it's your choice and you have to face the consequences but Parents told you the fact.

People criticize anything and everything even if they have no idea what it's about and that's how they just casually spread the rumour around the people thinking they are right which isn't but it's hard for anyone to convince until they are ready to learn from other side.

Bitcoin might be used by scammers so what, is Fiat never used by them? Which is the question you need to ask them to open their mind.

Actually the foundation was just the problem a lot of people have, people were meant to believe that certain things are bad but since out of fear and how young they are they follow those that condemn it but after a certain age they began to ask question why they were saying bad things about the thing since all they are seeing is something that meant no danger to anybody, so actually for those that were also made to believe that way on Bitcoin should ask themselves if what they are seeing now in Bitcoin was the same bad thing they were told before now, because even the smoking aspects I was told when I was small that if a person lifespan is 90 years they would only stayed for 60 years because of smoking but now to my understanding those things were false, so that's how some persons will also realized that the negativity that was told were false.

To be honest a lot of people still see smokers as the bad influence to the society this is because a lot of the criminals when they are caught sometimes they confessed to doing the evils they do as a result of what they smoke and some even commit crimes to get money to maintain the life style they live because they are addicted drug dealers and smokers of all kinds but that doesn't mean that all the smokers in the world are criminals. If you understand this you will also understand that parents often refer to smokers as evils to scare their children so that they don't identified with smokers so they don't get influenced by them.

Same thing I think happened to early bitcoin adopters and lovers they were misinformed and some of them were deceived to not taking advantage of the chances they had to acquire bitcoin at a very low price some people even forgot about their bitcoin investment as a result of the rumors of bitcoin being perceived as scam and evil.

Up till this very moment when the said bitcoin has gained a lot of popularity and massive adoption the media still misinform people and Thomas of this world are still relying on the wrong informations they spread on the social media platforms and in some cases some of the adopters of bitcoin has often been pushed to selling off their bitcoin as a result of fear and panic.

Now if you had the opportunity of witnessing a lot of scams that many people suffered as a result of investing in wrong crypto projects you will be afraid to trust some of the things about cryptocurrency then again this idea has been what has been affecting the mentality of most people because they are yet to understand the difference between bitcoin and every other cryptocurrency. I think for people like you and I who are fortunate enough to understand this and have taken the advantage to invest in Bitcoin it is our responsibility to also help some people to change their perception and their mentality so they will stop to see bitcoin like some sort of shitcoin.

How did smoking even get into the conversation? And you called yourself a "healthy smoker"?

Man, you’ve got the wrong idea about smoking as studies clearly show it’s bad for your health, so you can't blame why people wouldn’t agree if you think it’s harmless or even good for you.

Bitcoin on the other hand, is a completely different as it’s an investment with the potential to make you profitable in the long run (if you look at it that way). Actually, both carry risks... smoking is a health risk, while Bitcoin is a financial one. But with smoking, it’s all risk and no reward, so there’s zero potential for profit.

Do your own research and your own learning before making your conclusion and it's never good to totally depend on anyone and his or her opinion on anything. Make your critical thinking from your research, learning and listening, will reduce a lot of risk to be fooled by a single person.

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I'm bit obsessed here but doesn't mean negative incite. During my childhood parents and guidians told us that smokers are bad influencers with criminal minded, then when we sees smokers, we always remember the phrase "Smokers are bad people".
When I grew up to my adult age as a man, I adapted to smoking and I didn't portray any of those negative narratives as incited.
This is just how we were being convinced by the anti bitcoineers that bitcoin was a bad initiative targeted to scam people of whoever that adopts the use of bitcoin is doomed and a looser.
Then the uneducated masses got influenced with the sabotage of the critics on the financial system and has also imitated to spread the unverified (false) rumors that bitcoin is a scam without even having to study how the bitcoin industry works if genuine or not.
That same incite of smoking keep repeating itself by the saboteurs and our neighbors too ignorantly follows the trend in discriminating bitcoin they've no knowledge about.
A lot of us has been victim to this criticism but ont my acceptance to undertaking risks nomatter the threats, I discovered that all being said about bitcoin were lies so as some of us. Otherwise, most of us lately adopted the investment on bitcoin would had made it far than now.


Lesson: Don't judge what you're not sure about and if you're not learned about it, ask questions and if you're literally not convinced, take it a practical step with due processes.
It's true that until you're sure you can't be sure.
Today I'm a responsible and a healthy smoker also and a proudly profitable bitcoin investor of all being contrary to what I was earlier told.
Let's remember the CEO of JPMorgan Chase, Investor and television personality as Kevin O'Leary also The founder of Bridgewater Associates Ray Dalio etc.
These are proficient entrepreneurs and investors who allegedly disapproved bitcoin with criticisms of bitcoin being scam and worthless to invest on but today's they're the whales influencing the bitcoin market on highily price increases with their high purchase of bitcoins. They all regreted their pasts but wasn't late to revised and take new decisions and investing on it.