Topic: ILLUMINATI DOES EXIST? (Read 1311 times)

Well, intelectually speaking, that conversation devolved quickly.

Yes they do exist

I personally believe these people don't exist

I don't believe in illuminati but there can be a certain bunch of people who rule the world:))or at least who rule some countries and share the world with other conspiracy groups)

ILLUMINATI in my opinion it is a high level intelligence program, which puts religion as a benchmark

Yes i believe they exist, but i don't have  time to join or whatever, They are not righteous, why should i?

By the way many interesting things about them in the books written about them and movies were,but they exist,and from the shadows secretly in control of many things and processes,it is no secret to many that oakie secret organizations and arrange on a world scale events

If you believe the Dajjal is a one-eyed creature and allied with the Illuminati, it means unknowingly you have been consumed Anti-American, Anti-Jewish propaganda, including Anti-Freemasons. in this world many hate them for their inappropriate, conflicting, and disparaging political policies, such as US policy in the Middle East and Palestine. this is not to say that the US and the Jews (in this case Zionists) are the truth, but there is indeed a group of people who are Anti against them and formulate one-eyed Dajjal propaganda as part of hostility towards the US and Jews. This is an intelligence war. whereas, Islam in many Hadith never mention Dajjal the Eye-One, but Dajjal the Blind Side.

Whereas in Christianity biased with conspiracy theories, the Anti-Christ is not only symbolized by one-sided or one-sided blindness. anti-Christ and the devil is symbolized by the symbol 666, the Inverted Cross, the Reverse Pentagram, the Baphomet Goat, the Snake or the Dragon, even the Anti-Christ is symbolized also as an ordinary human figure. Many versions. for example, as depicted in Luca Signorelli's painting in 1501, there appears a two-edged Antichrist, in the form of an ordinary human being, being whispered by ibn

Illuminati want to destroy the current world system and build their own belief system, including destroying the concept of family. This is a widely distributed theory, and often this theory begins to enter homophobic and sexist areas. therefore the complete separation is strongly supported by the Illuminati, in order that we humans always fight with each other. Others claim that feminist movement is part of this 'chaos', but I disagree. I support the equality for women. I believe that the Illuminati want women to have a role in their future world of dreams and this means women must be able to channel the goddess spirits and want to be used for magical things ...but certainly not many women are members of the Illuminati because their freedom is severely constrained by these group's ideals

The question is one of the things I've been studying recently.

Something of that name was organized by Adam Weishaupt in the later parts of the 1700's.  Interestingly, Thomas Jefferson himself is reported to have been involved to a degree which may help explain his amazing understandings of money and power.

A little history necessary to understand 'the Illuminati':

Moses and a few score of elders went to the mountain.  Moses climbed the mountain and got the goods from God.  The others of his entourage got a more expansive 'oral' version of the goods.  A few hundred years after Jesus beat the 'money-changers' they wrote the 'oral Torah' down on paper since it was becoming more and more bloated and twisted.  This is the 'Talmud' which Jewish Rabbis study (and it's one of the most fucked up pieces of garbage ever written IMHO.)

Some stoners who were generally Rabbinical dreamed up Kabbalah (aka, 'Jewish Mysticism'.)  This became the basis for an amazing amount of stuff.  I personally grew up in the 'hippy' culture of the 1970's.  As I study this stuff I see a direct correlation.  The alchemy and much other stuff of legend is also obviously related.

In the 1600's a Kabbalist named Sabbatai Zevi came along and a very large fraction of the worlds Jews considered him to be their long awaited Messiah.  He was forced by the Sultan to convert to Islam and his movement shrunk and went underground.  He was a 'right is wrong/wrong is right' duelist sort of creeper.

In the 1700's a guy named Jacob Frank branded himself the Messiah and incarnation of Zevi (also spelled Tzvi.)  Frank was much more of a creeper in this dualistic way.  The basic idea is to be as shitty as possible since it will induce God to come back to earth and take care of business.  You know the stories about orgies and ritual satanic abuse?  Ya, it's like that.

The Rothchild fam was almost certainly 'Frankist' and almost certainly remain so to this day.  They were getting their start at owning the money supply of nations in the 1770 timeframe.  Weishaupt was associated with Catholicism which was at war with the protestant reformers.  Seems that Weishaupt, Rothschild, and Frank sort of teamed up and figured out a way to symbiotically achieve their various goals.  Being 'underground' was of keen interest to all parties, and 'secret societies' were all the rage due to the policies of the Roman Catholic church.

Looks to me as though from the get-go Weishaupt's idea was to make Freemasonry a vehicle for his team's goals.  Prior to that Masonry existed but mostly as sort of a trade union.  I believe that when one achieves a certain 'degree' in that organization one is let in to the 'secret' that you are the Illuminati and what that means.  (What it means is basically Kabbalah.)  It's a progressive mechanism which serves as a broadly cast net and a filter.

So, yes, the 'Illuminati' exists and one (of multiple) ways of being in it is progressing up the ladder in Freemasonry.  The U.S. doesn't have much industry left, but 30 or 40 years ago, if you worked in the local mill and wanted to be a manager, you pretty much needed to be in the local Masonic lodge.  This gives a lot of lot of working material for an underground organization.

I suspect that another way of getting into 'the Illuminati' is by having the right parents and getting into the right 'program' at the right ivy league school.  e.g., Yale, Harvard, etc.  There are also probably a military route, a church route, etc.

I'm thankful every day that I never had an opportunity to get 'tracked' into any of these when I was younger because I may (or may not) have been stupid enough to experiment with it.

No, a secret group that controls the world and that famous people own their fame with, and seem I guess to have secret power does not exist. It's ridiculous.

It does exist. However, being among would be someone's greatest regret.

Yes I believe that they exist.
Nope. I'm not going to because I do not want to be bad guy going around killing people for money.
Yes, it is possible. They are controlling it. We are just pawns in their hands.

Whether the Illuminati exist or not doesn't really matter, the truth is that there are all sorts of secretive groups trying to manipulate economies, governments, etc. Call them Freemasons, Scientologists, lobbyists or whatever you want, they are real and powerful, but not as much as some would have you believe.

Would I join them?

Only if it afforded me the opportunity to destroy them from the inside.

Viva la revolucion!

I think the illuminati exist, they move in a systematic and hidden way. In fact most of them are of the world's most influential people. I have absolutely no intention of joining the illuminati, instead I would oppose it if forced to come along.

 

 Actually  I don't really care about this !

The truth meaning of Illuminati is used out of context. In college history , it is taught Illuminati was originated in the Bavaria society in Germany back in the Renaissance days. Now is used in synonymous to Freemason, Rosicrucian or secret society. The term come from illumination, meaning wisdom or knowledgeable. If I am giving opportunity any day, I will join and get knowledge and wisdom to advance society.

I believe that the illuminati existed to this day, if I was not invited to join the Illuminati then I would refuse it, because I am already happy with my life right now.

i believe Illuminati does exist. They have a church and doing some ritual for the demons, and there are some celebrities and athlete are members of the Illuminati. They exchange their soul for the fame here in our world.

For me its really exist though there secret groups who created satanic groups to worship demons , even if ill die i will not accept there offer to join their club i believe in god and he is the only one i worship .

Illuminati does exist. They even have a church here in our country who is known for being religious. I can't imagine it happening to other countries who are not into religion. They have this church with a cross that was upside down. It's creepy. We don't even know if the person next to us is illuminati.  We can only be cautious but not too much. It's not like they will just kill someone out of the blue.

If "Illuminati" would exist, you can bet that you wont be here to talk about them...

How can you trust the social media, it's a selection information which means maybe that's not truth. They can edit everything and provide to us. But in my opinion, Illuminati is just a fiction .

I think the illuminati actually exist  but still hidden and only certain people who know the details and generally people who have great influence in the world community to realize the goals of their organization. I'm not very interested in being part of the organization even if it is in the lowest level or even the highest position.

According to the social media , yes they do exist ..but for me ti see is ti believed as long as I don't in counter a person. Who was a member of that illuminate I can't believed it ..

For me? Illuminati is just a group containing high profile people all over the world. These people have the power to control over anything in the world. I would not join them, In fact I would never join any organization just because of my profile. For me, it is just a waste of time bragging about what I have achieved to other people and taking advantage of other people for my sake. It is possible that they have leaders from different parts of the earth to be affiliated with them. Not all though, so I wouldn't say they control our world, only specific places that they are already in.

I do believe in Illuminati.
They are controling the media, the politicans, the military and all other powerful institutions.


I also believe that chemtrails are poising us. They got a cardgame from somewhere around 19XX where they predict 9/11 and much more very precise.

Illuminati does exist but i won’t waste my time by joining them because all they do is distract everyone from all the bad things their leaders are doing. It will really be the one that will control the world after every believers of God is saved.

I believe in a world order and all these "secrets" sociaties having a roll in it. There's just too much stuff happening in the background of the world that will never be revealed to the public which makes room for lots of conspiracies.

I believe that Illuminati exists. Even if they will kill me, I won't offer my life nor myself to join them because I believe that after life and heaven do exist. I don't want to suffer after life. The world belongs to Satan.

If Ill be giving a chance to join in Illuminati I wont join cause its like you sell your soul to Luciper . You will Enjoy while your still in this world but suffer after death .

for me i don't believe in illuminati because for me illuminati is just a conspiracy, so we have different opinion or idea about illuminati.

"Illuminati" is just a stupid label to trivialize the high spheres of power - which actually exist but they are not so stupid to call themselves "illuminati".

i have read some blogs about Illuminati and find it interesting.,tho they are considered anti christ but actually they arent., to they are lions who are free.,they were not sheeps that needed a Shepard just to eat and be eatenafter sometimes.

yes, they do exist, even already widely spread almost all over the world, their role is quite large in some countries and influence the political conditions of the countries they are headed.
I do not want to join them even though they are strong enough to affect the state of the world.

yes
DIyanamo is example of member of Illuminati...

valar morghulis
what are u talking about? which illuminati? i rather belive in aliens or god 

Illuminati does exist, there are some people who losses faith to God because of depression and having so many problems everyday. They are the people who are sensitive and becomes violent in religious. If i were given a chance to join them, definitely no!, we must live with a faith on our God who created the world and live peacefully. We must spread the love to each other and must do cooperation with everyone for success. Maybe they control the world now because some of the famous leaders are members of illuminati, it is very possible and very frightful because they might destroy our world because of power.

Yes, i believe...

check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhFtrS3jmos

A lot of issues are coming out everyday about Illuminati and how they're influencing well-know personalities like politicians, tv stars and even government. I think they are true because there will be no issue if it's not existing. I think Illuminati has been present since the old days. A lot of conspiracy theories connected illuminati with the deaths of presidents and other known personality because they want to share the truth to people.

This organization really exists. I've read a lot of articles about their organization and they've been existing a long time ago. I think they're group manipulates almost everything in the worlds. And, if ever you will join them, you really need to follow what they want you to do. A lot of know personality even admitted it.

I think it does, a lot of people believes that illuminati controls almost everything in the world including politicians, government, popularity, tv icons, banks, as in everything just name it. If I were given a chance to join them I wouldn't accept it because who knows what price are you going to pay in exchange of what you want.

I don't know whether Illuminati organization is true or false, are there any real proves besides rumors? I recently read a post about top Illuminati members in Nigeria ( https://www.naij.com/1082355-12-famous-illuminati-members-nigeria.html ), never suspected the organization exists all over the world.

There is a latest allegedly news about Justin Bieber who cancel all his tour around the world. He said that the current music industries are being managed by the pedophiles(which I can already considered as part of the Illuminati group). The boy said that he is task to rape the girl(less than 18 years old) and then the company said that if you able to do it you became part of our company which gives you fame and money.

Sure it exists, and it is ruling the world.
Everything is happening now is programmed, revolutions, wars, hanger, problems ...
I have a very interesting book talking about details, but I forgot his name, I will share it with you as soon as possible.

Vigilant Citizen regularly analyzes occult symbolism from pop media. It's not hard to reveal if you're not a degenerate to begin with. TPTB really thrives in corrupting the youth with garbage fashion, idols and "music".

The "Secret Society" as some would call it does exist. If offered to be a member? Absolutely not! I will never renounce my faith over earthly powers. And yes, I believe they do control majority of the operations in each country. High ranking officers of the Illuminati are actually heads of nations..As for me, only Christ is Lord and head of my life...

What if Assassin's Creed was created by the Illuminati?

Of course, such an organization exists, because the richest people want to rule the world, but not as presidents. They hold secret meetings and give instructions to the presidents.

I believe illuminati does exist and they are one of the most influential/powerfull organization in the world because of some belief that mostly members are celebrity and politician. But if I may ask joining them, i'll answer it NO.

the organization relly exist. it was a group of high people and scientist that proving that god doesnt exist and everything unusual can explain by science.

It's  funny that a lot of topics about of Illuminati that you can find on youtube and othe social media sites and saying that they are a "secret' organization. There might be a powerful and evil organization out there and only influential or wealthy people knows about this.

personally,i believe an Organisation exist, but might not be named the Illuminati. Because what ever is secret can not be so known by majority of the world.

Yes, I do believe they exists although it's just a name for TPTB.

I wouldn't join them even if I was offered to; there's more to life than power and wealth.

If you do a little research, it's clear who they serve.

I think they do exist but their importance is exaggerated

Illuminati does not exist at all it is just a make up story of a man that I don't know and he tell it like a fairy tale and someone believes and spread the word from it and other people starting to believe also because if Illuminati does really exist so what? if it is for good then I am not against it but i don't believe on it.

All of the famous or rich celebrity,politicians and different personalities they said that they are Illuminati so it is just a stereotype for me.

I am uneasy to answer this question. Personally I am not acquainted with any Illuminate. Here if to see him before itself, then it was then possible that - to write that. And so, I disbelieve rather, what I believe.

I think they're not the only groups that exists, there are more.

I don't know about that lightbringer or the keystone .In that pyramid Illuminati wants always on top who will be the ruler of the world .If you know or heard , read about the World order that they want us to to follow it as they change the world would bring harm to all of us they want to kill many people .

you already sold your soul

edit: wouldnt it be mre interessting to talk about tha lightbringer? the keystone? the one the illuminati awaits for sitting on the top of the illuminati pyramid scheme?
anywasy i would not recomend to follow german illuminati look @vw and other german car manufacures if you follow the german wanna be illuminati

The illuminati is in the worship of those who have no religion, if any and in the offer I will not accept it, because I believe in my book and my religion. The world is not governed by the illuminati because someday it will end, nothing is everlasting in this world.

There are many conspiracy theories about Illuminati's, i dont know if it's even true or not but i guess with our corporate world it may be possible thst there are secret societies that is controlling the world like for example the Illuminati group that is composed by powerful families like the Rothschild, Rockefeller this is only the name of few there are actually 13 families that is called Illuminati but the Rothschild is the most powerful they control all the centralized banks and finance wars from both sides. Im not interested in this kind of groups i have a different goal in mind.

If you are trying to hide from Illuminati and buying some bitcoins then you are on the right way. I guess your next step will be discovery of deep web forums and other issues related to increased anonimity. Ofc if you wanna get out of controll

exist but i killed them in Assasins Creed

I think there are several secret groups that control important world's stuff and they are among us, so yes.

I really believe that they exist and secretly rule the world through presidents. I would not want to become one of them, because there is nothing good in managing people.

They are and in fact if i am not mistaken when you became the president of the united states you could be automatically a part of the group. I just do wonder if they are somehow related to mafia

Yes, they do.


No, never, not.


I won't sell my soul to the devil.


They actually doing it since before.

As I know, the Illuminati are used extensively to showcase a conspiracy organization that is believed to master and control events in the world through governments and corporations to establish the New World Order. I personally do not really believe in the illuminati. Nothing can ever make me believe the illuminati exists.

I believe that they exist, because many actions of politicians are devoid of any logic. I would also like to join them and rule the world, but this requires a lot of money.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ILLUMINATI DOES EXIST OR NOT?
IF YES, AND YOU WILL GIVEN A CHANCE TO JOIN THEM
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT IT AND WHY?
AND IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THEY ARE THE ONE CONTROLLING OUR WORLD?