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g1974ak

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Quote from: OneandOnly22 on July 26, 2015, 04:35:04 PM

Im in US and have paypal, anyone available?

I suggest virwox. I used to many times this service and it is very credible. Maybe the fees are a little high but you go for sure that you will have your bitcoins and you will not lost your money. In these times no one know with who have to do so it is important that be sure when you do exchange.

deadley

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Quote from: sylpalma on July 27, 2015, 10:23:26 AM

Do not trade with the bad guy. Is Selling bitcoins stollen from another user. User is a scammer. I can proove

Post details in scam accustion section.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

sylpalma

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Do not trade with the bad guy. Is Selling bitcoins stollen from another user. User is a scammer. I can proove

Quickseller

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Quote from: u9y42 on July 27, 2015, 01:38:57 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on July 26, 2015, 11:11:14 PM

An escrow can be plenty of help in these kinds of trades. The escrow would make sure that both sides hold up their terms of the trade for as long as the bitcoin is being held. If that means that no chargeback claim is filed/received within 48 hours, then as long as no chargeback claim is filed/received within 48 hours then the buyer would get his coins.

What escrow would primarily protect against is one person outright scamming the other person by simply disappearing after receiving money from the other person.

Also, even though PayPal can be charged back up to 180 day after the fact, I would presume that a large percentage of the chargebacks/disputes are filed within a short time period after the transaction occurs.

Somehow, that doesn't seem very reassuring - at least if you're the one selling the BTC, and taking the Paypal payment. I mean, what is there to stop the buyer from charging back after the 48, or however many, hours all parties agreed to, if he is intent on scamming? His lack of patience? Tongue

Paypal is still reversible in the end, and Bitcoin is not. And even if your assumption is correct and a large percentage of chargebacks/disputes occur within a relatively short time period after the transaction occurs, does that somehow improve the seller's chances in the process, as far as Paypal is concerned?

There is nothing to stop the person selling PayPal from charging back after the Bitcoin is released to him. Escrow would however force him to at least send PayPal to him prior to receiving the Bitcoin. It will only protect you from a subset of the PayPal related scams.

You really should not be accepting PayPal as payment for Bitcoin, but if you do you should use escrow.

cryptosun

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Quote from: btctxns on July 27, 2015, 02:15:18 AM

Quote from: cryptosun on July 27, 2015, 01:55:37 AM

we should do these transfers with those whom we trust or via some security measures

Ok, well we definitely know you have no trust here.

That only leaves the "security measures" you speak of. Again, we'd love to know what you mean by that.

My dear friend if i am a newbie here it doesn't matter and it doesn't define that i am not trusted

,and i am claiming either here to trust me or not , I Just gave a thought here about my experiance ,as i have been dealing with many people usualy on skype or fb .

I use to take Several measures , Like i use to talk to the person whom i am dealing with.
Next thing i do is verify his name with his paypal account via screenshot and source of his paypal and payments he have made , and also his location.
and also i dont take creditcard payments coz they can be easily reversed even if they are friend n family payment which cant be disputed.

these are the serious measures i use to take Cheesy

and will prefer that everyone should take.

btctxns

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Quote from: cryptosun on July 27, 2015, 01:55:37 AM

we should do these transfers with those whom we trust or via some security measures

Ok, well we definitely know you have no trust here.

That only leaves the "security measures" you speak of. Again, we'd love to know what you mean by that.

cryptosun

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Quote from: u9y42 on July 27, 2015, 01:38:57 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on July 26, 2015, 11:11:14 PM

An escrow can be plenty of help in these kinds of trades. The escrow would make sure that both sides hold up their terms of the trade for as long as the bitcoin is being held. If that means that no chargeback claim is filed/received within 48 hours, then as long as no chargeback claim is filed/received within 48 hours then the buyer would get his coins.

What escrow would primarily protect against is one person outright scamming the other person by simply disappearing after receiving money from the other person.

Also, even though PayPal can be charged back up to 180 day after the fact, I would presume that a large percentage of the chargebacks/disputes are filed within a short time period after the transaction occurs.

Somehow, that doesn't seem very reassuring - at least if you're the one selling the BTC, and taking the Paypal payment. I mean, what is there to stop the buyer from charging back after the 48, or however many, hours all parties agreed to, if he is intent on scamming? His lack of patience? Tongue

Paypal is still reversible in the end, and Bitcoin is not. And even if your assumption is correct and a large percentage of chargebacks/disputes occur within a relatively short time period after the transaction occurs, does that somehow improve the seller's chances in the process, as far as Paypal is concerned?

You are right buddy

even escrow releases the funds , the person can still request a chargeback , but we should do these transfers with those whom we trust or via some security measures

u9y42

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Quote from: Quickseller on July 26, 2015, 11:11:14 PM

An escrow can be plenty of help in these kinds of trades. The escrow would make sure that both sides hold up their terms of the trade for as long as the bitcoin is being held. If that means that no chargeback claim is filed/received within 48 hours, then as long as no chargeback claim is filed/received within 48 hours then the buyer would get his coins.

What escrow would primarily protect against is one person outright scamming the other person by simply disappearing after receiving money from the other person.

Also, even though PayPal can be charged back up to 180 day after the fact, I would presume that a large percentage of the chargebacks/disputes are filed within a short time period after the transaction occurs.

Somehow, that doesn't seem very reassuring - at least if you're the one selling the BTC, and taking the Paypal payment. I mean, what is there to stop the buyer from charging back after the 48, or however many, hours all parties agreed to, if he is intent on scamming? His lack of patience? Tongue

Paypal is still reversible in the end, and Bitcoin is not. And even if your assumption is correct and a large percentage of chargebacks/disputes occur within a relatively short time period after the transaction occurs, does that somehow improve the seller's chances in the process, as far as Paypal is concerned?

cryptosun

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Quote from: Quickseller on July 26, 2015, 11:11:14 PM

Quote from: u9y42 on July 26, 2015, 10:23:18 PM

Quote from: DebitMe on July 26, 2015, 08:39:24 PM

Quote from: The Bad Guy on July 26, 2015, 08:37:33 PM

I can do this, I know how to protect yourself from chargebacks, so no problem, however I can't do the whole amount, but only a small part of it. Sent you a message, please check it fast.

Both buyer and seller should be using escrow for this. As it stands, two newbies are setting up a deal and both have potential to get scammed.

Either don't do this deal or use escrow, protect yourselves or you could lose everything, its very suspicious that this user wants to do the deal so fast.

It's not like an escrow can do much in this situation though (well, for the seller anyway) - transactions can be reversed within 180 days with Paypal, and it's not like the escrow is going to hold on to the BTC that long, in case there is a chargeback.

Also, I don't think there is such a thing as "protecting yourself from chargebacks" when Paypal is involved, The Bad Guy; but if there really is, feel free to share it with the community, to help prevent scams. Tongue

An escrow can be plenty of help in these kinds of trades. The escrow would make sure that both sides hold up their terms of the trade for as long as the bitcoin is being held. If that means that no chargeback claim is filed/received within 48 hours, then as long as no chargeback claim is filed/received within 48 hours then the buyer would get his coins.

What escrow would primarily protect against is one person outright scamming the other person by simply disappearing after receiving money from the other person.

Also, even though PayPal can be charged back up to 180 day after the fact, I would presume that a large percentage of the chargebacks/disputes are filed within a short time period after the transaction occurs.

yes you are right buddy , as per their policy anyone can file a dispute in 180 days now before it was 90 days , but there are some ways to prevent the chargebacks , I wont be sharing them here , the reason is with every good person there is allways some bad persons as well, who take advantages of these kind of tricks and use to scam others , I have been dealing with paypal---> BTC and viceversa and other ecurrencies since 2010

so i have a bit of experiance abt how to deal with scammers and also with good people

.

cryptosun

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Quote from: bitbaby on July 26, 2015, 10:39:03 PM

Quote from: The Bad Guy on July 26, 2015, 08:37:33 PM

I can do this, I know how to protect yourself from chargebacks, so no problem, however I can't do the whole amount, but only a small part of it. Sent you a message, please check it fast.

Mind sharing with the community how you protect yourself from charge backs so may be others can apply that too and trade safely using paypal? There are lots of request to buy bitcoins using paypal and if you can provide a solution to do it securely, it'd be great.

Secrets are secrets Wink

haha , But I would love to share some tips with you ,i have been dealing with many of my clients , who use paypal
and i take several measures before taking the payment

Hope it helps.

Quickseller

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Quote from: u9y42 on July 26, 2015, 10:23:18 PM

Quote from: DebitMe on July 26, 2015, 08:39:24 PM

Quote from: The Bad Guy on July 26, 2015, 08:37:33 PM

I can do this, I know how to protect yourself from chargebacks, so no problem, however I can't do the whole amount, but only a small part of it. Sent you a message, please check it fast.

Both buyer and seller should be using escrow for this. As it stands, two newbies are setting up a deal and both have potential to get scammed.

Either don't do this deal or use escrow, protect yourselves or you could lose everything, its very suspicious that this user wants to do the deal so fast.

It's not like an escrow can do much in this situation though (well, for the seller anyway) - transactions can be reversed within 180 days with Paypal, and it's not like the escrow is going to hold on to the BTC that long, in case there is a chargeback.

Also, I don't think there is such a thing as "protecting yourself from chargebacks" when Paypal is involved, The Bad Guy; but if there really is, feel free to share it with the community, to help prevent scams. Tongue

An escrow can be plenty of help in these kinds of trades. The escrow would make sure that both sides hold up their terms of the trade for as long as the bitcoin is being held. If that means that no chargeback claim is filed/received within 48 hours, then as long as no chargeback claim is filed/received within 48 hours then the buyer would get his coins.

What escrow would primarily protect against is one person outright scamming the other person by simply disappearing after receiving money from the other person.

Also, even though PayPal can be charged back up to 180 day after the fact, I would presume that a large percentage of the chargebacks/disputes are filed within a short time period after the transaction occurs.

bitbaby

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Quote from: The Bad Guy on July 26, 2015, 08:37:33 PM

I can do this, I know how to protect yourself from chargebacks, so no problem, however I can't do the whole amount, but only a small part of it. Sent you a message, please check it fast.

Mind sharing with the community how you protect yourself from charge backs so may be others can apply that too and trade safely using paypal? There are lots of request to buy bitcoins using paypal and if you can provide a solution to do it securely, it'd be great.

u9y42

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Quote from: DebitMe on July 26, 2015, 08:39:24 PM

Quote from: The Bad Guy on July 26, 2015, 08:37:33 PM

I can do this, I know how to protect yourself from chargebacks, so no problem, however I can't do the whole amount, but only a small part of it. Sent you a message, please check it fast.

Both buyer and seller should be using escrow for this. As it stands, two newbies are setting up a deal and both have potential to get scammed.

Either don't do this deal or use escrow, protect yourselves or you could lose everything, its very suspicious that this user wants to do the deal so fast.

It's not like an escrow can do much in this situation though (well, for the seller anyway) - transactions can be reversed within 180 days with Paypal, and it's not like the escrow is going to hold on to the BTC that long, in case there is a chargeback.

Also, I don't think there is such a thing as "protecting yourself from chargebacks" when Paypal is involved, The Bad Guy; but if there really is, feel free to share it with the community, to help prevent scams. Tongue

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Quote from: realproject on July 26, 2015, 08:38:53 PM

Quote from: OneandOnly22 on July 26, 2015, 04:35:04 PM

Im in US and have paypal, anyone available?

what's rate you want??

They strike again. Be careful with these newly registered offering you bitcoin. They might just ran away with your paypal. Although it can be reversed, funds are more likely getting spent right away before you do the file.

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Quote from: The Bad Guy on July 26, 2015, 08:37:33 PM

I can do this, I know how to protect yourself from chargebacks, so no problem, however I can't do the whole amount, but only a small part of it. Sent you a message, please check it fast.

Both buyer and seller should be using escrow for this. As it stands, two newbies are setting up a deal and both have potential to get scammed.

Either don't do this deal or use escrow, protect yourselves or you could lose everything, its very suspicious that this user wants to do the deal so fast.

realproject

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Quote from: OneandOnly22 on July 26, 2015, 04:35:04 PM

Im in US and have paypal, anyone available?

what's rate you want??

The Bad Guy

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I can do this, I know how to protect yourself from chargebacks, so no problem, however I can't do the whole amount, but only a small part of it. Sent you a message, please check it fast.

bitcoinmar

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For you best way to buy bitcoin through paypal is virwox because no one going to take paypal here on this forum

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selling BTC for paypal is generally very risky because you can chargebacks so I doubt you'll find anyone that is willing to do trade with you. use something other than paypal that won't allow their users to reverse a transaction instead.

OneandOnly22

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Im in US and have paypal, anyone available?

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