Topic: I'm out of touch lately - any good hobby-miners for my in-laws (110v USA) (Read 272 times)

... read above ... 9TH quiet, standard miner.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57493367

I disagree with you on this one. I've been messing with newpacs, raspberry pi's new pacs and stuff. the apollo btc is a lot simpler than anything else on the market for a bitcoin miner. a lot of people [myself included] want no part with a loud hot miner in their house. there are comparable altcoin miners that are a bit more profitable but i don't really want to mine shitcoins, or use a GPU. i appreciate that they are making something like this instead of focusing on altcoin miners imo. they got real efficiency gains out of the S9 chips, down to ~60W per TH. The only other way to get 1TH/s+ in a residential without a ton of noise/heat is the gekkoscience rigs but you def have to be more technical to get it running properly. I am more technical than your average person but even i kinda struggled with it. it doesn't really run right on windows 10 without using the command line imo. i was running into a bunch of weird glitches.

i have an S9 collecting dust because the APW PSU and the device in general is just more "mentally intimidating" to set up.

any limitations im running into are just the limitations of me not really knowing linux/ubuntu (not really sure what the difference is tbh). pretty much just have no idea how to link bitcoin core to the block chain folder cause i was always a heavy windows user.

the entire processed was plug and play. you pretty much just plug everything in and if you already have a pool account somewhere, you enter the stratum URL, username and press enter and start. i was mining within 4 minutes of opening the device w/ accurate reporting on the pool.

i have not run into any issues, it's been hashing at 2.5 TH/s with no restarts or anything really. No fans coming off or being loud. It runs very cool. It's a great device IMO. had it hashing for 10+ days and it was super stable. I had it running at 3.6 TH/s overclocked for like 5 days no issues either. I just restarted them to change the modes and measure efficiency.

not trying to dismiss your points but cause im not sure how "locked down" it really is but it could just be a way for em to protect the RD they did while recouping costs. i doubt its malicious.

And they specifically say it's a bitcoin node, not a miner, the miner is an addition.

Though they also certainly seem to have some issues that require some people to take action on the miner and be able to handle more than your average non-tech person can handle.

Probably due to the fact that they hacked up a 'new' miner for it for some unknown reason, even though they used an open source one before.
Not sure why they wanted to hide what's going on inside the miner.
And the system depends on not having the machine update itself properly.

i.e. just be wary of handing a non-technical person one of these as a miner.

The issue with Apollos seem to be sourcing it.

Just checked it out, thank you for that! i think I will stick w/ the Apollos & perhaps sell my S9. Seems like the S9 pulls 80W-85W per TH even at the lowest settings. The Apollo BTC's on Eco pull like ~60W per TH (but you obviously only get 2).

That's only 10W per TH away from something like a Whatsminer M32 @ 68 TH (~3400W or 50W per TH). T17's seem to get 55W per TH.

Kind of wild when you look at it thru that perspective. I'm a lot more impressed w/ the Apollo after doing a bit more research on it.

if you use an atx psu and set to 5th it is as quiet as the apollo at turbo

the youtube link above shows how loud it is.

Lots of great info in this thread.  I've opted to wait for batch 3 Apollos.

Hopefully I can get my hand on a few of them!

How loud is it compared to the Apollo BTC? Turbo or whichever mode. just curious how the noise compares. Quietness is very important to me. People are flipping these Apollo's for so much I was thinking of selling my standard units and ordering a modded one from you or modding one myself. Actually have an S9 just laying around cause I've been to lazy to play with it.

Move it to my computer room and point it out the wire screen door to get rid of a lot of the heat generated.
That starts around the middle of spring until it gets cooler in autumn.
(yes I've been doing this for a number of years - before the A851 had the LowPower setting, I used a slower A741)

Last summer I only had to turn it off about 3 times during the whole summer when the room got over 40C
Though, that was to avoid the servers getting too hot, and I ran the air-con in the room with all doors closed.
Having a miner generate heat in there at the same time was obviously not 'optimal' on those 'air-con' days

Thanks for the tips.  What do you do in the summer months?

its an old thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-to-do-with-all-the-old-s-9s-5160194



old you tube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-tLR6sEVQs&t=89s


I do have them on hand

As for s9's dying vs Avalon 841

the modded gear won't die unless you run it loud and hot.

most all the gear around dies from maxing hash rate out.


If you find the Avalon a841 and clock to 6th it would be quiet.
If A841's break and they do.
 MY partner was going to go to South America to repair several hundred that the pmu died and he ended up not going since no one stocks pmu's





I will most likely sell off all my remaining s9's

As for price on the s9 mods  pm me we can talk.

This is the best bet - Canaan Avalon A8 - rather than the S9.

Way more reliable, and uses original firmware, you don't have to work out how to hack in an after market firmware that can also charge you 2%

Getting an old, working, not overclocked and due to die soon, S9 is a crapshoot.

I run an A851 a couple of meters behind me (it's winter now) 24/7 as a heater - it's low pitch quiet enough 9TH/s

Thanks Philip.  Can you link your specific thread on these miners that you sell?  Looking at your post history, I can't find it easily.

If you are usa based I can build you a modded s9.

uses an apw3++ psu which will work on 120 volts.

Runs braiins firmware

you can set it to 3,4,5,6,7,8,9 th

higher the louder.

You can control the fan speed as low as 1800 as high as 5200

5th setting is pretty quiet. pulls about 400 watts

I could ship it by tuesday.

I have a thread 🧵 in hardware.


here is a modded s9 with braiins near top speed.

volts set to 8.85
freq set to 625
fan set to 80% about 5120 rpm note  max chip temp is 85C

does 9 th.
it should pull close to 850 watts
it should work on 120 volt power
uses Bitmain apw3++ psu
only 1 fan to save on watts
this is a loud setting

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Same rig lower settings

volts set  to 8.15
freq set   to 325
fan set to 18%  about 2300 rpm please  note max chip temp is under 78c

does 4.7 th
it should pull close to 400 watts
it will work on 120 volts
uses Bitmain apw3++ psu
only 1 fan to save watts
this is fairly quiet setting.

For introduction these are pretty good.
For changing speed these are super good.

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You can't go over the 9th safely but you can drop lower the the 4.8 th I show for the low setting.

Freq can set to 200 and volts to 7.9   the low I did was at freq 325 and volts at 8.15

Those Apollo miners look great, but seemingly, like most great BTC hardware, difficult to source.

+1 for the Apollo BTC. If you just wanna mine, the standard unit has no node and is a bit cheaper.

Terminus R606 Pod miner is great if you can find one for a reasonable price. GekkoScience USB Hubs + Newpacs are great too if you want to start smaller.

If you want it to be profitable, I would say you might have some luck w/ a Antminer S9. I've heard you can downclock it to 6TH/s and 500W-600W of power using the new Braiins OS thing. Perhaps with a server PSU you might be able to get away with 110V but I haven't tested it out yet to test for noise and heat.

Thanks a lot for this.  This seems quite ideal, particularly as it appears to bundle in a Bitcoin full-node!

If living in an area that gets cold during the winter an Avalon A841 works great as a space heater. Throttled down to 9THs and fan limited to 40% it's nice and quiet while pulling about 750w.

Of course there is also Sidehacks R606 which has threads here as well.

The FutureBit Apollo (which you can see threads for here) is probably the newest hobby SHA-256 miner toy. Runs 2-3TH/s at ~200watts.

I have dabbled in mining with Whatsminers in my personal storage room, but now my extended family is catching the bug.  I do not think their homes are appropriate for rigging up 220v lines or any serious mining, so I'm wondering if there are modest setups out there that can be run on 110v, and not render a room 100 degrees or otherwise unusable.

Any opinions on this?

No alt-coin mining, only interest in SHA-256.