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Topic: I'm trying to figure out where my KIN is? (Read 148 times)

jr. member
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May 12, 2018, 07:50:53 AM
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Well I still haven't found it.  But I have been busy too.  Not really a lot of time to look.

I have pretty much resolved in my mind that the screen shots of the ether address and secret key to the address where the KIN are... live on the fried m.2 drive.  I clearly remember not wanting to leave them on EtherDelta and creating another ether wallet.  I also clearly remember when I went to save the screen shots of the ether address and secret keys not wanting to hunt down my jump drive and saving them to the desktop planning to move them later.  Whether the data on my m.2 drive survived the jolt of electricity that fried the controller chip and melted the plastic label affixed to the top of the drive is beyond me.  The m.2 drives label that states the model number, serial number, size of drive etc. is all bubbled up.  It was a thin plastic label and clearly melted during the frying session.  There is a recovery service in Ohio that I have talked to that says in many cases they can recover the data off the memory chips on the drive.  I may send it to them at some point.  I think the initial assessment is something like $129.  It might not be a bad gamble.  After spending that amount they can tell me whether there is any data that can be salvaged or not.  That's like the bench fee just to assess the situation.  If they can recover the data then that would be a secondary charge which I don't recall what it was.  Maybe 2 or 3 years from now when KIN is actually worth something it will motivate me to have it checked out?  But then a part of me says I need to do it now before KIN forks into some other universe where I won't be able to access them off the address they currently reside on.  I know they are on an ether address though.  And surely that won't be going away anytime soon?  I did read about where KIN is adding the Stellar Lumens network to their coin but not dropping the Ether support.  How long that will last though is anybodys guess.

Anyway, I will post if I decide to pursue the data recovery route.

The Digital Man

jr. member
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There was a similar situation, the money is also gone, do not use more and do not trade on Etherdelta, and all advise, choose another exchange better.
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A couple months ago I decided I wanted to buy some KIN.  I went to EtherDelta.  Never had used the exchange before but managed to create an account which was essentially an ether address and the private key for it.  I captured that information and saved it.  Sent ether to it.  Managed to figure out how to buy the KIN and I know the contract was executed successfully (Or at least I am pretty certain it was).  Because when I was done I was able to view the new ether address (apparently the one associated with the contract... Not the one my account was set up under in Ether Delta).  And using some sort of masking mechanism on the address I was able to see my KIN tokens that I had just bought.  All seemed O.K. so I sent the left over ether back to my main ether wallet and being tired I went to bed.  I've been busy since then and I figured the KIN token wasn't on any kind of metoric rise in this bear market so I hadn't bothered to think much about it.  But recently I have been trying to get a bit more organized with my crypto currencies and I've been moving most of them off the exchanges and into my hardware wallets.

So I decided to move my KIN into my Trezor.  I am having some trouble understanding where it is.  When I go to EtherDelta it is not there.  But that doesn't totally surprise me because it was my understanding that after buying the tokens they actually resided out on the ether block chain and were  not really associated with Ether Delta.  Am I correct in this assumption?  Or am I wrong?

What worries me a little is that I don't recall saving the contract address when I bought them?  Maybe I did.  And if so I am sure I will find it at some point but right now all I seem to have is the original ether address for my EtherDelta account.

I guess my question is this.  If a normal savvy crypto person bought KIN on EtherDelta exactly what would the normal steps be?  And how would they go about securing their KIN into a hardware wallet?

I feel confident the KIN is safely sitting out there on the block chain.  I'm just trying to figure out how to go about finding it?

If I sound like a complete idiot feel free to laugh.  At least I didn't hand over my private keys to the "fake EtherDelta Rep" on the chat when I asked about it.

I'm not really worried just yet.  But I would like to track them down and get them into a safe wallet where I know where they are.

Thanks in advance for any insight anyone cares to offer me.

Yosef

I bought KIN off of ether delta as well.  Trying to have us help you find out what you did with it is kind of like you losing money in your home and explaining to us where you last put it and then us trying to help you figure out where you left it as a number of things could have happened to it.  That said let me give it a shot.  I can tell you what I did with mine.  I added my wallet as you did, then I purchased some with ETH and then I withdrew it to my wallet and it was received in my either wallet (IM token where it sits now).  The question that I am asking myself is why? I look and the total supply is 10 trillion.  The question is how many did you purchase and what is the current value of it? Because if we are talking $20 or $30 it may cost more time to look for it than to go purchase more.  Anyway I hope you find it.
jr. member
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If you bought your KIN from Etherdelta and did not withdraw it from there, then your KIN must be lying in Etherdelta because when you buy a token from Etherdelta it gets transferred to Etherdelta and then afterwards you can withdraw it with some GAS. So, you should just import your wallet(wallet with which you purchased KIN) into Etherdelta, go to KIN section on ETHERDELTA and you'll see your tokens lying there, withdraw it into your wallet with the "withdraw" option (but you'll need some eth in that wallet for gas) and then send it wherever you want.

O.K. so I went to EtherDelta and chose "Import an Account".  I put in my public and private key for the Ether Address that I KNOW I SET MY ETHERDELTA ACCOUNT UP WITH.  I have the screen shot and it was saved as EtherDelta account.  I know putting a private key into a website is not the best practice but I did it.  It shows me an empty account.  Which to be honest does not surprise me because I seem to remember withdrawing the KIN to a different Ether address maybe using MyEtherWallet?  I clearly remember having to use some of the left over ether on EtherDelta for gas.  And I remember sending the final remaining amount of Ether back to my Coinbase wallet. I have found 2 Meta Mask seeds (Screen shots of like 12 words) and I have put both of them into the Meta Mask fox thing and it brings up addresses but they are empty.  I'm guessing I haven't found the address yet where I moved the KIN to.

I appreciate the replies.  I'm pretty sure based on what everyone has said and the fact that my EtherDelta account is empty that I moved them off EtherDelta before going to bed.  I seem to remember not wanting to leave them on the exchange since it was so difficult to use and I worried that stuff wouldn't be safe on it.

While I have been pretty good about saving screen shots of all my seeds, private keys, etc. I have not always been good about making sure they got saved to my Jump Drive.  Sometimes I would be lazy and just save them to my desktop for the moment and later move them to one of my Jump Drives that I keep for my crypto.  I say this because recently I upgraded some things on my computer and somehow accidentally fried the mother board taking my M.2 drive with it.  I have since replaced both and I'm back up and running but my backup of my system drive was not super current.  Mainly because I don't normally save data on my system drive.  So I'm thinking it is remotely possible that the address I need was on my system drive on the desktop and I no longer have access to that unless I try to recover the fried M.2 drive through a data recovery service.  I'm just not sure that would be worth the cost.  Especially since I'm not even certain that the information would be there even if I did get the drive recovered.  And there is nothing on the drive that I need unless of course this missing address happened to be there.  I had a good backup of the drive.  Just not a current one.  The backup being for my OS and installed software.

If I don't find anymore ether addresses to check out I may just chalk this one up to a learning experience.  I think it was about 0.6 or 0.7 ETH involved.  Probably $800 - $1000 at the time.  I think I ended up with over a million KIN if I remember correctly.

Thanks again to everyone who replied.  I'll post back here if I actually do find the correct address and actually recover the coins.

full member
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Quite a strange situation, I think that you probably need to contact the support team, I do not even know how to help you any more, maybe the representatives of the project will be able to help, try asking them how this could happen.
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Friend, I want to help you, but I did not understand your situation a little. After you bought KIN, did you take it from the EtherDelta contract to your wallet? You can check your EtherDelta balance with deltabalances.github.io , I hope I helped.
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If you bought your KIN from Etherdelta and did not withdraw it from there, then your KIN must be lying in Etherdelta because when you buy a token from Etherdelta it gets transferred to Etherdelta and then afterwards you can withdraw it with some GAS. So, you should just import your wallet(wallet with which you purchased KIN) into Etherdelta, go to KIN section on ETHERDELTA and you'll see your tokens lying there, withdraw it into your wallet with the "withdraw" option (but you'll need some eth in that wallet for gas) and then send it wherever you want.
jr. member
Activity: 45
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A couple months ago I decided I wanted to buy some KIN.  I went to EtherDelta.  Never had used the exchange before but managed to create an account which was essentially an ether address and the private key for it.  I captured that information and saved it.  Sent ether to it.  Managed to figure out how to buy the KIN and I know the contract was executed successfully (Or at least I am pretty certain it was).  Because when I was done I was able to view the new ether address (apparently the one associated with the contract... Not the one my account was set up under in Ether Delta).  And using some sort of masking mechanism on the address I was able to see my KIN tokens that I had just bought.  All seemed O.K. so I sent the left over ether back to my main ether wallet and being tired I went to bed.  I've been busy since then and I figured the KIN token wasn't on any kind of metoric rise in this bear market so I hadn't bothered to think much about it.  But recently I have been trying to get a bit more organized with my crypto currencies and I've been moving most of them off the exchanges and into my hardware wallets.

So I decided to move my KIN into my Trezor.  I am having some trouble understanding where it is.  When I go to EtherDelta it is not there.  But that doesn't totally surprise me because it was my understanding that after buying the tokens they actually resided out on the ether block chain and were  not really associated with Ether Delta.  Am I correct in this assumption?  Or am I wrong?

What worries me a little is that I don't recall saving the contract address when I bought them?  Maybe I did.  And if so I am sure I will find it at some point but right now all I seem to have is the original ether address for my EtherDelta account.

I guess my question is this.  If a normal savvy crypto person bought KIN on EtherDelta exactly what would the normal steps be?  And how would they go about securing their KIN into a hardware wallet?

I feel confident the KIN is safely sitting out there on the block chain.  I'm just trying to figure out how to go about finding it?

If I sound like a complete idiot feel free to laugh.  At least I didn't hand over my private keys to the "fake EtherDelta Rep" on the chat when I asked about it.

I'm not really worried just yet.  But I would like to track them down and get them into a safe wallet where I know where they are.

Thanks in advance for any insight anyone cares to offer me.

Yosef
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