Topic: Im waiting Crisis to buy finally land and Property or to build myself (Read 887 times)

I laughed after reading this like what’s wrong with working hard to acquire a property without seeking for war, this is strange and unhealthy for anyone. I don’t think war can affect the price of physical properties, at first I will advice you never buy any property in such environment because it might be yours next who knows in terms of destroying properties. Praying for war now shows how wicked a person is mostly when people die during the process and there’s nothing left rather humans also suffer from hardship and inflation, sorry to say i don’t think anyone will be able to hold their fiat at the moment talk more of buying properties.

When War happens then there will be only destruction. Thr point of view of OP is not correct and I agree with your statement. Because we saw the graph of market when World War 1 occur then we saw market went dump but we will change in the market after 3rd World War because Now every country is bad condition and they recently escaped from COVID-19 and if War occur then price of things will be high because align will supply food to their companions and they will not suppy the items to the other countries and at the end the price of things will be double. And being human being we should not expect War because War is not good for our Earth and Ir has impact of that after the century.

It sounds selfish to want a war to start and buy a house for yourself.
If there is a possible WW3 war, stop thinking about buying a house, maybe you won't be able to find bread, I would say research previous World Wars.
Instead of waiting for crises or wars to start to buy a house, it would be better to be in the flow and chase better opportunities.

Wow nice One I must say,but let me start by saying your post needs some corrections. Cause at the first instance I didn't get what you were actually saying but I had to re-read over again to understand the content inorder to err out my own view, but having digested the fact I think it makes no sense trying to say you're waiting for crisis to finally buy lands and properties at a cheaper rates, I must say your full of negativity and which is a turn down for me. Let's be realistic we hope for the best as we try to adapt to the economic and other sectors of the country but then saying such is a fact that you're in support of the downfall of the nation.

You should be careful not to fall into the trap of wasted opportunity cost. A recession has on average hit every 8 years and if you keep all of your money uninvested for a time period like that, two things are happening. First, the value of your money is eroded over time as central banks print additional money. Second, that money should be earning more money each year, which in turn feeds a compounding effect, if you're missing that - then your competitors during these bad times will likely still have a lot more spending power accumulated than you. Rich people know these cycles exist as well and will have deep pockets, with money in reserve.

None of us want war to happen because war will sacrifice many things, especially casualties and so on. However, if war does happen, we must also be able to take advantage of the post-war situation to seek profit or at least in the post-war situation to make land or property prices cheaper, and we can take advantage of opportunities like this.

Opportunities like this are not only utilized by individuals, countries that are not affected by the war will take advantage of opportunities to seek profit in the war to improve their economy. There are many strategic steps that can be taken in various ways to take advantage of these opportunities, namely by increasing export commodities, by managing natural resources well and improving the quality of products to be exported. Because by improving the quality of the product, the country will attract the interest of other countries to use its products. This will further improve the country's economy. Another example is during the pandemic a few years ago, the pandemic was indeed a disaster, but if we can take advantage of the opportunity then we can benefit from the disaster. Sometimes in a sad situation, if we are smart enough to find opportunities, sadness will be an advantage.

Very wrong way of thinking and just like been mentioned that there might really be those drops but its not something that you could really be able to tell that it is really that way too much in terms of value
but of course it will really be situational because there are instances that there might be some on sale properties might be in rush sale which it might be that a steal when it comes into its value but with these kind of situations or conditions are really that rarely happen so better not that expect. Also, i dont see real estate properties are that giving out that assurance that you could be able to make money because those properties that been sell out might not really be profitable at all. This is why you should really be that careful when it comes on making up some purchase and not really that easily make yourself believe that it could really be a steal or a good buy. Making up some research and analysis would really be that relevant.

Properties like rentals is something that i do make some consideration but it would really be that mostly be focusing into commercial spots rather than on going for condos or transients on which i could really say that this is something which is really that bit saturated in todays. Well, this is really just that my own personal point of view basing up into the observation that im really that seeing into the current ones
or simply this is really just that only here in our place. In general or overall then real estate business or investment is something that will really be worth but everything would really be still according into
other factors on which you would really be needing up to consider.

So OP thinks perhaps that property prices would drop during or after something like a war however this is not always the case. Where wars may temporarily dip due to uncertainty, they often lead to long-term instability in a way that truly worsens things. While the initial price could drop due to fewer buyers, the prices of construction material, labor, and lands may go up owing to supply chain disruption, inflation, and higher interest rates. This might then again drive the prices upwards.

Added to this, anticipating "buying things cheaper" after a war presumes over real economic devastation and human misery that go along with war. Many post-war economies indeed have to grapple with issues such as inflation, a weak currency, and reduced consumer confidence. The expectation that things will get cheaper is not particularly considerate of the after-effects which could become prolonged.

Are you plan on buying land in Palestine, Israel, Hamas, Iran, Iraq, or Lebanon, then don't buy land there. For the sake of your safety, but still, I know the land there will be way cheaper. I don't know about Israel. But if you are planning to buy land in Europe, then I don't think such a war will make any difference on such lands, although climate or crime change in the region can really make a big difference in price.

I once saw a video on IG in which a dude was saying he used to invest in a country, like buy land or other material stuff, but after the war like when the war ends and now the chances of another war are lesser, he said he has done this for his whole life. The idea is not that bad and might be profitable too.

War conditions are very bad conditions and if a country experiences that continuously without stopping, of course there is no good property that we need to expect from there because bullets do not recognize any property when they are flying in the air. So personally I prefer to buy property and land in countries that are safe and have a fairly large population even though the price of property and land in safe countries is very different from the price of land in countries that have been destroyed by war. However, the consideration itself is certainly not only on the price, but also on the level of security when we have bought it.

I don't think you can buy a land or property with a cheap price. War can destroy everything in your country. Many products are so expensive making it difficult to buy. If you can save your money from now on, I think that can help you to buy what you want especially when the price increases.

But when a crisis comes, you may have a chance to buy land and property at a cheap price because people need money. People will think about primary things first and many of them will be willing to sell their land and property at a cheap price.

But do you think you can survive after the war? What you must concern if your life and family and how you can pass on that hard situation.

First of all, Hope you and your family are safe!

Even with a war that is not on your country, prices in your country can still be affected. For instance if some of the resources are sourced out from a country in war then you can expect some of the prices in your country to go up due to lack of supply.
Exactly. Wars rarely end after a short time.

Sometimes, it’s just an area with all the political tensions between two nations. Sometimes a country is controlled by another country and the living conditions are just very poor. Why would you buy real estate there? Price is not the only thing to consider.

Waiting for a war to obtain waste lands and properties isn't really a mature way of thinking, do you know what the outcome of things wouybe after the war? I'm talking about those that are probably going to survive if it keeps escalating..war isn't really a good thing so it shouldn't be prayed for.. take Ukraine for example, with the constant war and chaos what property would you buy when everything is burnt down and wrecked... just work hard and make money so you can live the life of your dreams

There's no good benefits people could able to get from war. Since even if they think about crisis will happen then provably they also cannot get benefit especially if they aim to buy land which provably not gonna happen since for sure the government will secure first the area and check the place if there's land mine left or other threat on peoples life. So provably instead of they think about buying cheap lands their situation may became different since provably that they might spend their money just to be safe and they got broke in that situation especially if they are been heavily affected by war.

So hopefully people don't wish for this incident to happen and they just play fair in life. War cannot bring good thing to anyone since there are lots of people will get affected on it and the country economic state will be in total bad condition with this scenario.

War is obviously a bad thing, just like any Black Swan event that causes the price of assets, commodities, stocks, goods to crash. If you are able to take advantage of the prices crashing for the benefit of you & your family then good for you. I would just add that we might not see prices crash much further so don’t rely on something which may not happen. We also look likely that a recession will be avoided.

High interest rates don't result in lower real estate prices. In my country, interest rates are very high as usual and real estate prices are absolutely on another level since the Russia-Ukraine war started and many of them migrated in my country. 3 years ago it was possible to afford rent but today with a local salary it's impossible even if we double the emount.

It's not that stupid to not be worthy of its own thread but his idea is still crazy. This man is waiting for the financial crisis and war to make an investment in real estate and that's really crazy. First of all, it's not guaranteed that he will live and won't become a victim of either crisis or war and second of all, it's not the 20th century and will never be, so the real estate boom is not going to stop in a world where medicine is improving and our life longevity increases.

It sounds like a great idea and there are definitely opportunities that come up during a crash, however most people waste a lot of money waiting between crashes. It could be 5 or 10 years away, in the meantime - what are you going to be doing with your funds? If you are just loading up your savings accounts you'll be lucky to barely keep up with inflation and will effectively be losing buying power every single year. You'd be better off buying some smaller property, even an apartment because chances are it will go up faster than your savings account. You'll also be competing with a lot of people with deep pockets who can cherrypick what they want in bad markets, so I hope you're feeling lucky.

To be fair there are way too many people who like to see others in distress and then build something for themselves out of that, this one just talks about it.

I remember oldest thing I remember, Crassus would buy houses on fire from people who have no way of putting it out, so people who knew that their house would be just burned down and be nothing in the end, will end up with selling their houses for dirt cheap, and I mean like not even 10% of what it worths, then with Crassus having so much money, he had firefighters in his employ, who would go and put out the fire and then he would sell the house right back for more than ten times what he paid for. Humanity has always cared about these kinds of stuff in the end.

easy to say that when but the thing is that when crisis happens, land and properties remain as valuable as ever, it's just that the currency that you're using to buy that shit devalues so much that it coincides with the drop in value of goods, so while it's definitely easier to buy land and properties, you can't just do it if you're someone with all his holdings under the currency that just collapsed. It's going to be practically impossible.

Plus why would you want war to happen? The hell's wrong with you, there are better ways to achieve this thing without someone killing someone else, let's not be stupid here and assume that we have to draw the blood of someone else, and perhaps even subject ourselves to massive issues just so we can buy shit for cheap.

Maybe not immediately but subsequently. Indeed, hoping for a war is a bad thing itself, instead use the current prices to buy property if you are going to live in it. One can only buy large number of properties when they are having money in surplus and such people are not going to visit this forum.

So instead of those post-war thoughts, buy them now and sell them after a few years once buyers start coming in. That is hoping your evaluation of the land is good and you manage to get buyers.

You are right there. While investing after crisis may give an edge for investors, but it's inhumane for us to hope for crisis first so we can start investing at a cheap price. However, instead of waiting, let's just move forward one step at a time. Don't be greedy but always wait for the right timing to invest. And as long as the market shows favorable condition towards investment, then let's start investing and keep moving forward even though slowly but surely.

Your obsession is too big, it takes a long time to wait for a crisis in the country you live in to buy or build what you want. Rather than waiting, why don't you invest immediately? Isn't waiting something very boring and it's not certain that what you are waiting for will happen. Start taking a step forward, the money that you should use to realize all your dreams is used to invest in Bitcoin. This plan will not only make you profit, but will protect you from the effects of inflation.

You wanted a war to happen to buy a cheap land and build something? Well i will say that you can do build everything if you are still alive after a war, this is a very bad thinking almost all of us didn't want a war because of so many life that will be wasted including innocent childrens but you wanted it to happen for a personal interest? I hope you will awake and pray to lighten your mind with regards to this kind of crisis.

I will add that there is no way to know how much whatever money you had saved will actually buy, so if you had your money saved on your local currency, then it is likely its value has crashed as the government needed to print a lot of money, ask for loans and its local industry was destroyed.

And all of that is assuming the local government won the war, because if it lost it, then your fiat could be completely worthless, showing that such plans are a waste of time and they also bring a lot of bad karma, so it is better to not wish this upon anyone.

This plan is quite genius but wicked.  To have yourself a cheaper means to buy properties, did you want your country to engage in a war?  The question is, are you still alive after war happened in your country?  As far as I know, when a war breaks out, the country may mandatorily enlist capable people and may punish those who would not adhere to the call or be executed. 

So instead of wishing your country to get into a war and see devastation in front of you to buy cheaper properties, why not make use of your money and invest it to some profitable venture in order to make your purchasing capability improve?

You can never guarantee your life in war. So how do you say that you will survive after the war? How rational would it be if you expect to buy land if World War III happens and most of the world's people die? I think if you are thinking of buying land then you should do it as early as possible. One should never be deterred from building permanent assets by relying on uncertain time. Because the land you are thinking of buying can be bought by someone. Moreover, since people are increasing, the demand for land will also increase, so if you buy now, you will see the value of that land increase after a certain period of time.

That's why maybe they should better stop thinking about taking advantage in that situation also they should not pray for that situation to exist.

Much better for them to look forward on other things that contribute to the growth of humanity or in their country.

If they think this is the only way they can buy asset at cheaper price then I guess they should eliminate that thinking and much better for them to work their ass more so that they can generate more income and then they could able to buy an asset at fair price.

Things that are evaluated as opportunities should be within a certain limit. People's greed has taken precedence over many things and therefore human emotions have been pushed to the background. This is not an appropriate situation and is a behavior that does not suit human life.

People may want to turn some situations into opportunities, but these situations should not be situations that harm others. The phrase "turning a crisis into an opportunity" should be viewed as evaluating opportunities without harming others.

In general, there is no benefit in war conditions except for those who are directly involved in the war itself. Because for the lives of society and its surroundings it will not be useful at all, especially if the destruction of the environment can be very much and also large so that that is what causes great losses and there is no benefit to the public. In addition, it is what you said where generations such as children will be more victims and that is very unfortunate because they should be able to be the next generation in this world one day.

I have never experienced war, so I cannot attest that crisis is the best time to buy properties. Maybe people will sell their properties cheaply and relocate to other countries. Or maybe there might be an auction of abandoned properties. Maybe properties affected by the war will be sold at a cheap rate. Lives are more expensive than any property, so we shouldn't wish for war just because of our greed.

The bull run is a period of crypto hype that brings inexperienced investors to the sector. People are just attracted to buy Bitcoin because they see that the price is skyrocketing. Many of them just want to buy and make an instant profit. The best to start planning to invest in Bitcoin is during the bear season when the price is low. People who invest because of the hype might end up losing or won't make a good profit.

To be fair when bull run starts and everything starts to go up, we are going to see a lot of people make that kind of mistake. They are going to see others make a lot of profit, and they are going to be sure that it is going to be a tough one, so they will just do what they want to do, and that is going to be the issue.

The thing about current situation is that it is not that clear and we are talking about something that may take some time. I am not saying that we could have something changing, it is not going to be that easy, it is going to take a while.

So all in all, we could consider this situation a little bit tougher on the end, and could be something not so easy to handle. What I am guessing right now is that it could be people who are smart and wait beforehand during bear period that makes the most money, we wait during bear period and keep accumulating and keep making some money and in return I end up getting better results than those who are just hyped about it because they saw it go up. This is why I honestly think that it is going to be something that could take some time, and while I do believe that it could take some time, we are not going to see something changing all that easily.

It was actually funny reading Op strategy to acquire a land or properties because is obvious that he or she has not really experience war because if he does he wouldn't have reason on that dimension because is the last thing anybody can wish for because is very unpredictable and nobody would actually know whom it will affect if it happens because he is not even sure if he would be affected or not, on the contrary those who have experience war prefers to continue there struggling in other to aim a leaving than praying for war, so I would advise the Op to think things through before making a wish because war is not the solution to acquire properties on the contrary it destroys everything because during war money is not even regarded, instead everybody would be praying to be alive.

Would you still be alive after the war? Just kidding, I get it but for sure there are better ways to plan things out than to just hope for a crisis to happen. Point is valid; price of properties are so expensive at this point. But rather than to wait for a chaos to take place, why not increase the cash flow to still manage purchasing a property of your own? Start a business, engage with investments, and/or find a side job; anything that will increase the amount you are earning on a monhtly basis. You won't enjoy things during and after a crisis because you'd be more concerned of your health and survival. This is more of a frustrated plan if not being sarcastic but indeed a smart way to do things. But always consider a better picture of your plans because it could be counter progressive on your end. You are desiring something but your course of action is to wait than to push yourself to do better financially. What if there's no war or crisis to happen then? Then you'll be failing to achieve this. Strive!

Too many people dash in without thinking ahead. You have to be as aware of the market as the back of your hand, and even then occasionally the timing is off. Not everyone finds a place at the table as the big money is being generated. That is the essence of the beast, the unvarnished reality of the economic terrain

Most people would stay with the tangible, such as land or property. But consider it: isn't everything only faith?  Brick and brick, or ones and zeroes, the value is in what others believe. Real estate, cryptocurrencies, all of which are a gamble on the future are games of human psychology. This is a different battleground where feelings can surpass money

And Bitcoin? Bitcoin is the king, the OG. It's the future of money, and anyone who doesn't see that is missing the boat

Real estate market as well as other financial markets. In the long term, it is true that it will always increase because the population is increasing so the demand will always be there, but in the short term there will also be adjustments. So if you know how to analyze and take advantage of opportunities, you will be able to buy real estate 5-10% cheaper, this is completely possible and you can save a significant amount of money.

My country's real estate market is also not very good as it just went through a period of crazy growth at the end of 2022. It can be said that it is going through a bottoming and accumulation phase like other markets and is a good time to buy. But unfortunately, my budget does not allow me to do that and most of my assets are focused on cryptocurrencies because I believe that cryptocurrencies will bring me more significant profits.

That is just selfish.

A war is not just an opportunity for you to continue living your privileged life. Wars actually destroy homes and polishes off generations of families. Kids are no longer given a chance to continue growing up.

Yes you could find something good in wars but this does not mean we should actively wait much less hope for it.

There should be no delay in buying land because land prices never go down, land prices only go up. If you can't buy land due to lack of finance, that's a different matter, but if you have money and after having money, if you think that you will buy land when the price of land falls, then I will tell you to buy land of your choice as soon as possible. The number of people in the world is increasing and people are buying and building residences. The price of every commodity in the world is on the rise. Even after thinking about these things, I think that the matter of land purchase should be done soon.

What if you die in process of the war?
I guess that’s the more reason war shouldn’t never be wished for and if you’ve checked the case with Ukraine and Russia in this modern world then you’ll understand that, there is nothing good atleast physically about war and that’s why, there is always a need for peaceful resolution and dialogue over war.

Frankly a patriotic citizen of a country shouldn’t ever think of war, and anyone with such a mindset is selfish without even thinking about the safety of others but rather focused on eBay he or she might gain from the crisis.
Actually I agree with you that, anyone who has witnessed war in their country will never wish for war even if they’re winning  and your post also reminds me of how much my grandmother hates talking about the war because according the stories I’ve heard about her and the war, my grandmother lost her husband (my grandfather) during the Biafra war and always tells us to pray against wars and always embrace peace.

In conclusion just as every other persons has already said, I just remind you that peace is priceless and war is senseless .

You have to wait till you old age at 90 Years because there will be no war in your area or country.  And this is a very bad wish to happen. And make you should know that you might not live to see the land you want to buy in the war because war is not only foe one person roof but it is a general phenomenon.
And anyone who has seen war in his or her country will never pray for way. Way destroys things. This your prayer point is a very wicked one.

To whatever that has advantage also have disadvantage which buying that property at cheaper rate have you think if you buy and building and the build got burnt by fire being demolished by government? Of curse this is very possible to happened except for landed property when people are taking their race you set back looking for property to acquire maybe after war you go back to resell it and make profits. Usually during war and crisis things are normally cheaper and people sells things out of Desperacy just for them to have there way out of that country or region where there is war.

In essence, every time there is a problem or crisis, be it an economic crisis or war, we have to be smart in looking for opportunities to invest because of course every time a crisis occurs there are definitely losses and there are also benefits. depends on how we look at all this. Of course, if we have a lot of capital then investing during a crisis is a good idea because of course the price is cheaper, especially if there is a war going on, but of course you have to have a lot of control and patience and be prepared. for all existing risks.

However, every high risk will produce multiple profits or vice versa, but what is certain is that we must be brave in making decisions when the opportunity arises. I have a story about someone who bought land far away in a busy place, you could say on the edge of the forest, but he knew that one day the place would become a tourist spot because of its beautiful views. Initially, many thought he bought land without any calculations at all. However, several years later, the place became a tourist spot and the price of the land he bought soared many times. The point is to dare to take risks and take advantage of opportunities.

I have already this on my plan to look out for cheap properties so that I can rent them and from it while paying mortgages.

But currently, I have already given up and stopped for the moment because I don't think that they're worth it to take. I don't know where these expensive prices are being pulled from.

Every single property that I am looking for whether they're in the city or countryside, they're all expensive and way out of my ranges and budgets. That's why it's disappointing but if you're able to get one, do it.

Because I think that they'll get more expensive.

Waiting for a market to become rational so it crashes before you buy is not a bad idea, however it seems you want to wait until a war takes place to do this, and I am sorry to say this to you but it does not seem as if you have any idea of how brutal war can be, at the time the only thing that matters is to keep your life, so even if a piece of property was being given away, if that particular area is contested between two armies, there is no point on living there since it will be destroyed soon anyway.

The problem is there are millions of people out there with the same "plan" and many people with deeper pockets who are also primed to go when a recession hits. It's true that you'll definitely find bargains in a recession, but if you consider on average they are 8 years apart you might be waiting 10 years for your moment to arrive. In the meantime you might have paid off an average priced lot and progressed further in life. Unfortunately if you think property is expensive, you might be disappointed by how little it moves in a recession as people tend to hold on to it than cash out - people who have invested everything into property will cut all other expenses first before losing their home or most precious asset.

Where are you residing for you to be praying for this kind of thing to happen, war isn't something you should wish on any country as war is destructive. You might be the biggest loser in the war because you can lose those you call family. If investing in your country has become too expensive, you can move to investing abroad (in other foreign countries) as investing has no limitations. You can stay in your country but all your assets are in another country that has a more productive economy. If you can't buy the physical property, you can buy share online and get revenue from dividends or selling then shares after hodling them

If all the things I said isn't possible for to you to achieve them, then you can invest in Bitcoin and make similar profits to land investment, praying for war just to have an avenue to invest in your country isn't a good Idea to have. Land and real estate business are very lucrative business and you don't have to wait for the price to come down before you invest because in some areas that never happens and if you are to buy today, you could still make profits when you want to sell because the values keeps increasing so you don't have to pray for war but get buying immediately.

The aftermath benefit of war is not even something you should look into even as a joke. The disadvantages is much more than the advantages and anything that will comprise of taking someone’s life is not something that can be settled for. It is very important to understand that humanity should always be above any other thing no matter how important it is to you to achieve it in life. The objective of war is always clear and most of them are for selfish interest and nothing else. War is bad but some people use it as opportunity to get something which to me is very bad. War affects every sector of the economy and that’s why it is been used as bait to get across to others where the benefit is needed in.

If we could remove war from the question, we could still make this work. I mean lets assume that you live in a nation that doesn't have war, will that nation never have any economical crisis ever? Look at USA for example, they had 2008 bubble burst, which made most of the houses worth peanuts, some were even given for free in exchange of the debt they are owed, banks took over houses in seizures and sold them for incredibly cheap just to recoup the debt.

If you had money, you could have bought so many houses for very cheap. A house worth 100k to 150k could be as little as 60k those days, and if you spent 600k to buy 10 of them, you could have held them long enough to sell them for 1-1.5 million, no wars required at all.

Crisis really is the best time to buy properties just like in cryptocurrency when we see bearish market there are always sellers a lot of them and this is the time whales and wise investors come in. But if we are talking about real time crisis then yeah I think we should atleast have capital so we can buy the best we can.

War and crisis is an opportunity to make money especially in weapon business but you are a human being that breath, your objective is dark because you literally want to see people hurt to your own advantage and that's very bad, remember that you have family and friends that will die in the process, there are innocent that will loss and become financially crippled because of your interest just to buy land and property and don't forget that you will be affected as well.

I just know that some countries will have bead with each other and send bombs to each other but some countries will never go into war unless they are offended and force to start a war. Not every one will turn to beast and join the so-called world War 3 that some advantageous people are looking. Don't be surprised that you might not see any crisis and war till the day you will the bucket, it's possible.

Do you really know the disadvantage of war? Because for those that experience the war always talking about it and do to their explanation the war is not bringing any achievements to the community, stated that the war will make the price of goods become cheaper and better.

I don't think that will be possible because if may observe you just want the war should occurred so that you can achieve your aim, that is what they called impossibility can never be possible because is that happen the kind of situation you are going to face won't fevor mate.

I'm really confused about how to respond to this. How can someone expect such a big negative thing to happen to gain such a profit?
Believe me, when war and crisis really happen, we will actually suffer quite a lot. War is a complicated thing, it's not so easy that it can come back again. Someone who is involved in a war zone will not think about selling property or anything else but rather how to improve their own mental and self-confidence. It's not as easy as after the war then I would buy property cheaply and easily. Yes, it's not certain that we ourselves or our families will still be able to survive the war. Because this is war, right?

This is a simple answer, but indeed deep. 
It's true, we don't know whether we can still live or not after the war. Or whether our efforts and our finances in crypto will be successful or not after the war. The point is, never hope for war to gain personal results to gain various benefits.

if a war had occurred, the atmosphere would have been very uncertain and that would have happened, everything can be considered with a very high level of inflation and this is a normal thing to happen after the war is over, maybe we still have money to spend, buy land or property and with that, people's purchasing power will decrease because this was due to people's unpreparedness for the increase in inflation that occurred, they needed food and clothing more at that time.

What a genius you are. Do you think that when there is war you can still develop your land? there will be high inflation, hunger, chaos, and many other bad things resulting from war and it will make you miserable. Do you still hope that you can buy land and develop it safely when all that happens? You can't even be sure that you will survive the war, and how can you be sure about buying land and living prosperously after that?
My advice to you is, just hope for good things in your life and do what you can do today. There's no need to expect something like that to happen because you don't understand how terrible it is.

Like what? You are praying for war to come so you can make all your ambition came true? But did you ever imagine what will you experience if that time comes? or do you still have money to use after the war ends? Since for sure that crimes will be rampant and there would be chances that your money will be stolen or you use all of it to make your family safe from danger. So at the end for sure that you would provably lose all your asset in that crisis.

So maybe try to eliminate those wrong thinking and better do reality checking since for sure before those things you think to happen the price of real estate assets will soar high. And by that time for sure you will regret again that you didn't buy when the price of asset is quietly affordable to you. Remember also that inflation rate goes higher and higher so your savings will get affected with this events.

There are a few wars going on right now. One of them is unfortunately raging in my own country. I took a look at our real estate market, and, unsurprisingly, the prices went down significantly. However, if you buy property somewhere where the war is going on, you gotta understand that at any point in time, your property can be destroyed, and who knows when and how you'd be able to get resources to rebuild. Also, if the front line is changing, what you buy might feel safe and become very unsafe over a few months and nobody would want to live there. So it's not so simple.

That will depend on each item, not all items will decrease in price and not all items will increase in price when a crisis occurs, and it also depends on each country. If the OP is from my country then he's probably right, the prices of essential items such as food, gasoline, electricity...all increased by 30%-40%. But land and real estate prices in my country are quite cheap compared to previous years because the business situation of many businesses is at a standstill, many businesses and stores have to close and return their premises because of business losses.

It sounds harsh and a bit greedy when we take advantage of other people's difficulties to enrich ourselves, but in business it's called strategy. Just like investing in bitcoin, when you want to take profits or want to sell at a high price, there will need to be someone to buy at a high price and they even lose money. But that is how the financial market works, they cannot call you greedy or evil just because you win.

Exactly, this short minded take won't do good, not to mention that right now with tighter regulation in regard of mortgage, the housing bubble will have smaller chance of happening again, as a realistic person, I don't expect there to be sudden crisis that could make the price of lands and real estate to decline.
I think OP here just trying to justify war as well which honestly kinda insane. because from my idea, i'd prefer to hold off delaying myself buying property than having a war which impact usually devastating.
we all know even with current ongoing conflicts in various places, and the wars occuring it has impacted so badly to the worldwide economic, why anyone could think adding more war could give them opportunity.

yes he can buy a house but he won't have money for something else as anything becomes more expensive due to supply and demand.

if OP want to buy land and property you work hard, pump that income up then you can buy all those without wishing disaster upon people, I think the opportunity to become rich right now is more accessible than ever, anyone just need to take advantage and leverage.

Yes, bro, the hope is to buy assets at a cheap price after the war, instead of making a profit, he is at a loss, he never thinks about the future after the war, will he still be alive or dead after the war, will the war stop quickly or take a long time, thoughts like that, he only thinks about himself without thinking about the fate of other people. In my opinion, he is a very selfish person, he cares about his own benefit but doesn't think about other people's losses. This kind of character cannot be imitated and must be thrown away as far as possible.

I have to agree with you. War does not makes things cheap but everything turns expensive. Otherwise, if you are expecting for cheap properties and assets, probably those might be in trouble and are damaged. It’s still best to acquire land and properties when they are in their best form and condition, rather than seeing then with great damages, something that would be hard to attract buyers at all.

Your mindset might be quite different from everyone here, as you are still waiting for a war to happen before you work out with your plans. Sorry but I find it quite greedy on your part.

It should be so because buying property or land in normal conditions can also generate profits. Land prices continue to rise all the time because of the need to build so buying land can also generate profits at any time. Likewise, property and business in this sector are also quite promising now because the need for property is increasing all the time. War will cause damage and it takes time to restore the economic sector and especially regarding the reconstruction of buildings and so on that were destroyed after the war.

The impact of war is no joke because all sectors will experience weakness and the normal life that we want will definitely take time to recover. I don't understand how OP wants this, but in my opinion he doesn't really understand the impact of the war that occurred and may have never felt it.

War will not gives a bad and only bring sorrow to people. When war happen, many things could be expensive, especially for our daily needs. Perhaps that can impact to the land and property price because they needs to live so you should have more money to buy. I can not imagine if war is happens because that will be a difficult situation and condition and we will not thinks about other things and just wants to buy something that can helps us survive. When the war happens, we must concentrate to our life and how we can survive in the war. That will be up to you because you have the plan so you must knows when you can buy land and property.

I would say that it doesn't matter if you are in the warzone itself, or if you are in a totally different place, I would assume that the economy gets damaged no matter where you are. For example you think USA economy did not get hurt by the war between Ukraine and Russia? They have collected trillions in taxes, and yet spent billions of it for Ukraine's defense, that feels like it is not hurting? They could have spent those billions on their own citizens and they did not.

That's just one example, like for example Belarus is right there, or Poland, they are very near, you think they got nothing? Of course they probably got hurt too. Anyone who has any deals with Russia or Ukraine got hurt too, look at Europe and their energy crisis. So you do not have to be in the warzone.

I think it's too complicated to carry out, isn't it that purchasing property at this time when the country is in normal conditions is very profitable, and of course we can enjoy the income we get. If the post-war period certainly requires time for rehabilitation, there will be many problems that must be faced. The property business is currently very attractive, especially as more and more people need a place to live, so the availability of land is decreasing, and that's what we use to make a profit.

When there is a crisis, perhaps many people will sell their property or land to get cash and sell it cheaply, but who can guarantee that the crisis will only last a short time, because if it lasts a long time then you will also start experiencing cash difficulties and eventually have to sell your land or property at a cheaper price to finance your life because food prices are rising high
Your mindset is like someone who wants to make a profit when times are difficult, but in the future, you will also experience difficulties. Land and property prices are high and you have to work hard to make money to be able to buy it, not hope that there will be a crisis that makes it cheap and you buy it.

The most important thing in life is the desire to carry out activities calmly and safely. Indeed, war cannot be predicted, even small things can trigger conflict. If you want to look for war-torn land, you may have to buy it outside your country if you are not there. how tiring it is to have to manage the land. The nature of investment is to buy when the price is really cheap and hope that the price will return many times over, the link is almost worthless (too cheap = crisis / not functional for the business) but it is expensive/the price is worth it because of the strategic angle to function as a place operational. I agree that your business desires are big, but if you are looking for land and property on used land like that, there are minuses that you have to think about in the long term, except for occupying it yourself. It's better to buy in a decent area because in a safe country, of course property prices will be better and faster, I'm talking about increases, today's prices in the future could be 10x or even more than expected.

You are one of the craziest people because you are waiting for a crisis to buy land and property, usually people have more mature planning for this. My question is why wait for it to happen to buy? Almost most people hope it doesn't happen because it will worsen the economic situation and the ongoing war will affect human life for the worse. The action you expect is a mistake because even if it doesn't happen you can still buy land and property.

What if your financial resources are also lost after the war and can you still buy it. Just look at how countries that experience prolonged war are their lives not okay. If you want to invest in these two models, you don't need to wait for war and you can buy in other ways for the desired assets.

This is the same question I wanted to ask if op is going to wait for war to take place before getting properties. I understand that this era things are very hard but still we still need not to give up. Their is no guarantee that even at war buying property will be cheap, war is another crisis that people may even found it very difficult to have access to money just like in this difficult time that their is no war but still people are being affect by high inflation which they can't even afford things for themselves. I'll advice op not to give up and still be consistent doing the things that generates money for him, the future is bright and it is possible to achieve a lot.

If he was from Syria, he would have bought already but right now he expects war. Don't know where he resides, I'm sure he hasn't been to a real war yet. War is traumatic to people living in ground zero, they wouldn't even think of any business at all other than help and aid. War takes years to be over, just look at Ukraine vs Russia. He'll realize this if he isn't the first to fall dead when war breaks.

Waiting for the price to dip is great strategy from investing perspective but do you mean the crisis as war or just the dip?

If you think the former then it's wrong idea and I want to point out what happened in Syria, after the civil war everything was ripped apart and you can buy real estate cheap there but what's the use there is no potential to grow any further so being real estate investor needs future vision not just money making thoughts.

You're saying like you're gonna be the one getting all the benefits if a war occurs meanwhile in reality its gonna be catastrophic event for the entire country economy your likelihood of buying properties gonna plummet because you're gonna be more concerned about surviving.
you just never expect anything good coming out of war, having no war is better than having war and economic crumble.

also, investing when crisis could gets you things at less expensive price indeed, more likely undervalued if any but you should also remember human population increases where land stays the same, main culprit of housing price skyrocketing because people want to live in a centralized place where all the public facilities available. but, there's limited lands to build on and the inflation does cause the price to surge. so actually the housing price rise for a reason and remember when pandemic occurs, the economy was messed up but the housing price surge instead, it's usually something like stocks that plummets even then it is only limited to sector that requires physical interaction, the IT sector are flourishing.

I was just talking about this the other day that everything has been so expensive nowadays, there's no exception to this rising cost of everything. I spoke it out that soon this bubble of real estate might come to pop and there will be a reset too with it. I don't even know how long until we're going to see that or we won't see that happen anymore and the price stabilizes as these sellers have been selling their properties a lot.

On the affected lands of the war, the land prices there will definitely go down. But the effect of it entirely, due to the oil consumption of these tanks, trucks, and planes that they'd use for it, the demand goes higher and the affection of globally is no one can endure. Unless the self-sufficient countries have their own oil rigs and depos, they will just ignore us crying how the cost of everything has been rising a lot. There is nothing good with war, people want no war and that's much better.

OP, you dropped a random thought here and IMO it's not worthy of its own thread, especially since I have no clue what country you're in and what war has to do with real estate prices wherever you are.  Tip:  if you're going to start threads, at least put some kind of mental effort into them and elaborate on what you're trying to say, or else all you're going to get are idiots making replies to tangential topics.


That sounds like permabull thinking, which I hear more often in the precious metals markets (and crypto, too).  So respectfully I'd have to disagree, because there's no asset I can think of that's only worth buying and not selling.  If that were strictly true, then half the market for whatever asset we're talking about would consist of fools 100% of the time, i.e., sellers.  Plus I can give an excellent example of a bad time to buy land or a house--when you can't afford the mortgage.


Not being a real estate guy myself, I don't know if that generally holds but it doesn't seem to be at the moment.  Interest rates are higher than they have been in decades and yet real estate prices are soaring.

Don't wait for war or crisis, if you really want to only think about profits and don't care about lives then go to a country where there is an war, please do it your way. Is this effective? It's ridiculous and stupid when still feel like you're in a war situation, you can still think about investing, etc. In fact really have to go there without having to wait for a crisis or war in your country. In that part of the world there is still war going on so immediately bring a stack of fiat and buy every piece of land there is. Don't expect you to feel comfortable with these words. There's no point in accumulating fiat if can't save your life. Damn today I met someone with strange thoughts.

Remember, there is never a bad time to buy land / property.  Only a bad time to sell it.

High interest rates usually result in lower real estate prices, lower rates higher prices - and a high rate can be refinanced when rates drop.

 

In the time of crisis or a war every individual is affected, companies and businesses are not excluded. The businesses and economic life do not just take a halt, there is a chance of loss of property as well. There is no guarantee in the time of war that whatever you have stored or saved as asset will survive. This is a good reason not to wish for crisis or wars.  If anyone wishes to buy a land or invest in properties or do not have the money to invest and purchase at once, there are plans that some property agents can introduce to you that can help you get a property and pay in installment.

You don't need to wait for the war to buy any asset. Yes, the properties that you can buy maybe cheaper, but at such period, do you think you have the luxury to buy such investments?
That is true, if you have the means, why wait? You can always sell those assets in the future, when you feel you already have a good deal with what you purchased.

But if you have more than enough funds to buy during recession or crisis, you can do so. High-risk opportunities can give you high-rewards later on. However, you need to carefully choose what assets to venture into.

and how are you sure that you're going to survive the war? Sometimes it's better we don't wish ourselves certain things  and end up failing victim during such time. Alot of things happens after war has taken place and although one of them is that it's possible to buy things at a cheaper rate, the disaster that comes with it isn't something we should think of talking about.

If you experience war in your locality, do you have the slightest idea  the social amenities that would be destroyed? There are wars that could be fought for just one year that will take at least 10 years to come out of the post war effect on people's lives. Thinking about buying things at a cheaper rate at that time is so miopic and the truth is that you aren't sure if the banking system will still work the way it currently his now or wether or not your wealth before the war started would be preserved after the war.

Let's skip the fact that this is very selfish and dark, I don't think you understand what war is. Even if a war doesn't happen, but an economic crisis you said, do you think you'll be able to afford real estate? We're not in a war and see how expensive things are, but somehow you're convinced it will get better when there's a crisis? Funny.
When there's a war/crisis, inflation is on the rise and buying a property would be the last thing on your mind because you'll only be bothered about survival. People who have money to buy things that are not necessarily during a war time are people who can afford them before that time and since you can't afford it now, you won't be able to afford it then.
This is because inflation during war world be at an ATH and the price of food will be so expensive that you'll only focus on getting food and other necessities with every little money that you make and don't forget that your money won't be worth much due to inflation.
So I'd like you to think again when you're wishing for war, but this time put everything into consideration. 

Don't even think of war because I doubt if you will be alive to buy a cheap land or Property. You talk as if war is a better thing. Go and ask people who have experienced war, like the Russian and Ukrainian, you would never dream of war talk more of buying a landed property. If I where you I would take advantage of bitcoin. Bitcoin keeps increasing in price the more investors troop into it. I wounder why people will be thinking of the impossibility while possibility is prostrating in there front. Do you know you may wait for war and war may never happen till you die or you may never survive war when it happens, the easiest way is to buy bitcoin because it is volitille and limited in supply, there is a high tendency that you will make more profit in the nearest future than expecting your so called war.

I have some money on the "sidelines" for similar type purchased.  Not necessarily land, but just things that I'd like to buy right now but feel they are overpriced and with interest rates being so high, it's hard for me to justify purchasing them right now. 

I have simply been saving money for stock market crashes.  It's hard to know when to hang on the sidelines and when to buy things.  This can really take a lot of time, and things might continue to get worse for you as time goes on, and you may never get that opportunity you expected to get.  It's a tough gamble at times.

 Hope you know that war don't use to bring good thing to community, and the person you think, he or she will going to sell his or her land or property during the war maybe the person will be the one to survive during the war, I know that this kind thought can come out from lazy people because if you have money to invest in land and property business, you don't need to wait for crisis to happen before you can invest which you can start saving money that will allow you to buy land and property at anytime and wait for a long time before you can sell them to make a good profit, who told you that you can't buy cheap things in this season, when you have the money, but if you don't have money, it will make you see things in a high price which is what is happening to you.

OP you should change your line of thinking, war benefits no one because of the carnage and wanton destruction that comes with it, you yourself don't have any guarantee that you will survive the war so as to enable you buy those cheap things you're proposing. Is better to call for a state of emergency on your countries economy to help improve the healthiness of your country's economy so citizens could be able to have good purchasing power and prices of goods can be steady, because calling for crisis to bring forth an opportunity to help you buy properties on a cheaper rate looks parochial to me and shouldn't be encouraged.

LOL If his prayer is answered that's what will happen. invasion of his country is the worse. I sure wouldn't want that to happen in my own country but seems like each country today has an enemy coming once WW3 come.

We are going WW3 as we know it. If he ain't spending his money now, he will lose them all. If he can afford it now, buy the land and build a bunker.

I see your thought as a selfish one. How are you sure you will survive conflict or war? You cannot predict the outcome of the war. It might lead to the loss of lives which might include you, family members, or friends. Many people in war zones don't care about money or property because life and safety are more important. Wishing that there should be a crisis before you buy a property is not ideal. It means if there is no war in your lifetime, you will not invest.

It will be better to plan to invest with what you have now. And if you ever have the opportunity to buy cheap properties, you can buy them if you have the funds.

Sorry to say this, how you can be so sure you will survive after the war ended?

But, let's imagine if WW3 happen, you own the real estate (land and buildings) ownership, you carry and protect it at all cost, but after WW3 ends, other country taking over your country. I don't think your ownership is still valid because anything will belong to the new country and you can't do anything since they have more power than you.

In other words you are waiting for another war to hit?

You understand that if war does happen, cost of everything will go up, including property? Because old properties might get destroyed, new property costs may rise and so will the cost of living and building something.

I dont know if you have seen a post-war country in real life, but those who have do not give a merry experience. Poverty, miserable life and destruction are the terms they usually apply.

You might have your arguments, but this is my opinion.

Oh what a crazy reminder of back in the days during when we experienced complitical conflict in my place, it was a disasterous that due to political interests, citizens fought and killing each other all being manipulated by politics and then there was massive interests of real estate and landed property owners to sell their assets and properties so that they can change residential location all to safe their lives.
It really felt bad to see properties worth of $10,000 is been sold on destress at $4-6 thousand dollars.
This is why bitcoin investment has been a hedge to store values against natural disasters and economy inflations.
If I must tell you OP, remember that it landed property owners and real estates investors can sell their assets and properties in such critical terms, at you own time, you'd also have to sell on distress or you lost it all when there's a revolution of crisis. Just be aware.

Yes Im waiting crisis when i can buy finally land and Property everything is so expensive.
But war will make better prices in every bad there is something good war it's not good thing but at least you could buy something cheaper after war.