Topic: Imagine creating something revolutionary and just leaving lol (Read 441 times)

He can't, even if he wanted to he can't, that's the good thing about bitcoin. If satoshi came back today and said that he wants to take back control of bitcoin and just run it, we could just say we do not allow you and we are going to be fine about it.

People think that there are centralization everywhere but the reality is that bitcoin is not something that would be good for anything at all, and we should realize that even Satoshi can't make it happen, and he will not be able to control it at all. I know that some people think that it's possible but the reality is that it's not possible. So, centralization is completely kicked out of bitcoin in control sense. Of course he can still screw with the price though, that's still possible.

and we are only speculating on this matter up until now. so just be grateful that we have this technology today. if the person doesn't want to be uncovered, so be it. he has his reasons. we can speculate all we want, but we may never know the truth for now.
the circumstances may be different if satoshi disclosed his identity. we may not be enjoying this market like we have now, if he publicly declare his identity.

I will gladly look up that movie 

 
Although not everyone has adopted Bitcoin, the fact remains that it has helped most people gain financial stability, has helped the economy in the sense that some people invested in Bitcoin and earned a huge profit, and with the profit they got, they have strengthened themselves and even opened up a large business or company that has employees working for them rather than staying without a job and depending on the government. Those who saw Bitcoin In its early stages as something they should put in their money made a fortune with it, and those who will still adopt Bitcoin now can make a fortune in the future. The thing is that Bitcoin adoption will not just happen at once; gradually, people are adopting it with every passing day. For example, during the first and second years of Bitcoin, I think there were only a few investors compared to the number of investors we have today.

He definitely left us as a hero of information technology and left us with a mind-blowing platform. It is also wrong to think that they are left, it might happen that they are just there and do not want to come in front of the public. This could be out of the curiosity that he wants to experience the anonymous nature of Bitcoin or may be to see how it feels to use an asset that is decentralized. If he exposes himself then he might not be able to enjoy the fruits of a decentralized platform and won't be anonymous at all.

If they declared everything publicly, then everyone would start watching their assets, their money movement from wallets, strict views on their addresses, and what not.

Maybe it would have become a manipulative market because everyone would have trusted Satoshi as an owner of the system. Let us say thousands of bitcoin getting moved from his wallet could have created massive speculation about either sell-off or the other way around and thus disturbing the economy of Bitcoin in a negative way.

So he went for the good or might have already seen the future. Smart man.

I remember the movie "Ready Player One" where the world runs on VR which is called Oasis made by Halliday. I just like how you can compare him to Satoshi where he made it and most of the people use it and it help the economy of the country. Despite the fact that you don't have any news about him like isn't he dead or not, his invention are getting used by people. Only thign is that Bitcoin is not yet adopted fully by most of the people. Plus I think Satoshi did not really planned what would be the outcome of Bitcoin today which is makes it more amazing. His invention with Bitcoin as of today already helped a lot of people so it would be thankful for him to create BTC.

First of all we do not have clear proof that he left, we just know that he doesn't use the same nickname anymore, he could have gotten something else, and have some other wallet and just keep on checking. There is also an argument to be made about how Hal Finney could have been Satoshi, there are way too many similarities and also they had the first ever transaction between them, there was also rumor that someone with that name lived near him too, and considering how he passed away unfortunately. This means that Satoshi could even be gone, even if he wasn't Hal Finney, he could be someone else who passed away as well. All in all, its possible that he didn't just leave, he just couldn't be here.

I once went down a rabbit whole and discovered that Satoshi Nakamoto used a GMX email account, and it was still for a while before it was disabled. So, I am betting some admins at GMX in Germany may know more than the rest of us because this before end-to-end inscription of email was normal.

The other thing I was thinking is that it is much harder to be anonymous now than in the past because all the main email and social platforms try to authenticate your identity.

if i was a creator of bitcoin then i would do the same thing, because i don't want the government to interfere with the bitcoin i created, the pressure from them is huge and bad things will definitely happen in my life if my identity as the creator of bitcoin is known.
apart from satoshi, there are quite a few creators of great things that don't reveal themselves to the public like ransomware inventors and maintainers of silk road ^{(online black market)}, the average becomes pseudonymous and has no intention of ever expressing themselves because indeed they all want to live life quietly and great.

I hope he is still alive the most intriguing question is when he will move his share of Bitcoin does he has other Bitcoin wallets he should be the one making a profit since he is the creator, and I don't think he will ever resurface I mean the real one because of the huge popularity of Bitcoin, he cannot protect himself and I have this opinion that he doesn't want to be in a limelight and prefer to be isolated.

Unfortunately, none of his family comes out to point out the real Satoshi, he is really good at hiding himself from the world, he really mastered it.   

I think it just made a lot of sense how Satoshi's disappearance how he designed bitcoin to be used by everyone with the decentralized feature and be anonymous while transacting to another person. The moment it gained popularity, he deliberately planned it already, as people will start digging on his identity and where abouts. If he did not do that as early as he did, people might have found out who he really was. So, now what he have left for every one about his identity is just speculations, again just like bitcoin.
Decentralized, anonymity, and speculations all of these features are both explains bitcoin and Satoshi. IMO, Satoshi is one of those who has brilliant mind who can foresee with high probability what will happen when plan A fails and plan B works, vice versa.

A never ending kind of question that we do have on this entire crypto space on which it is something that cant be stopped on always going back to raise up those concerns and assumptions on whose Satoshi is.

Its not really that totally living but rather he did make out such decision which is getting in line on what he had created which is anonymity and decentralized. We dont know if he's still alive or dead
or whether Satoshi is a group of people or a single identity on which there's no way on telling on whose Satoshi is. Its true that the entire community or space is really just that eager to see a single movement out of those coins but we know and he knows that whenever that coin moves then this do proves out that he's still alive and watching up this community.

This is why its better not to raise and stress up yourself on having these questions because these kind of mysteries cant really be resolved out until if there would be some
solid information that would be leading into his identity but until now we do really fail on seeing one.

Besides the fact that maybe we will never know whether Satoshi died or not shortly after creating bitcoin, let's not forget that there are people who simply don't care about money. I know it sounds weird, for some it could even be some impossible to understand, but not everybody cares about money. Maybe Satoshi was like that, and let's not forget that bitcoin is what it is today especially because Satoshi disappeared leaving its creation to the world, bitcoin is actually decentralized because Satoshi stepped down, that's been a game changer.

Or maybe he was coming from a rich family a didn't feel the need to get more money, at the end he could have bought a ton of bitcoin for a few dollars shortly after disappearing, who knows...

We never know what technology they are working right now but I believe we will know it once it is announced in public.


I never thought Hal is Satoshi, it is crazy to discuss something about BTC within himself.

For some reason people always want to know the story behind...
 And sometimes they do not understand how important their creation is, I am not saying it just because of SN itself, one case out of so many that there is could be Albert Einstein, yes, perhaps he is well known for his famous formula E=mc2, but they have no idea of ​​the direct influence it has with other technologies for his various contributions to science; such as GPS, which is free to use by the way.

That's the point, you don't see anyone asking who is owed the creation of the GPS, then, the use exceeds its creator.

Of course, credit must be given, well it was AE, in the case of Bitcoin it was SN.  Then the rest is gossip, technological show business news. 

#TBT Topic.

How could one person, even Satoshi, control Bitcoin when it was designed precisely to be decentralized? Asking such a question actually shows that you don't understand the basics at all, but that's actually a completely different story.

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It does not surprise me at all that someone can make such a move in life, but for most people it is truly inconceivable that someone did something so revolutionary and that he did not achieve financial benefit for himself personally. When we talk about the forum, it is completely irrelevant what would happen on the forum or outside the forum in the event that BTC is moved from one of the addresses that are connected to Satoshi - because that would not mean that Satoshi really appeared, but that maybe it is someone else came into possession of his private keys.

However, I don't think that someone like Satoshi was so sloppy that he didn't understand how important it is that this never happens, and that means that those keys are more than well protected or even destroyed.

I still wonder about it, can Satoshi control bitcoins?  If he could control it, he could still do it in the dark without showing his face.  but I believe even he can't control it and that's the great thing about bitcoin.  but his disappearance also contributes to bitcoin's safety, if he were caught by the government and forced to work for them, bitcoin's reputation would be questioned and severely damaged.  it can be said that he made a completely right decision, both safe for him and maximum perfection for bitcoin.

I find it completely understandable for a person who supports decentralization to remove oneself from the equation after ensuring that a product is stable enough and has a community that will work on its maintenance. It is consistent with the values of privacy and decentralization, as there's no highest authority that people listen to when it comes to further development and direction that Bitcoin takes. Moreover, it's simply reasonable because with fame comes tons of unwanted attention from people who are obsessed with your life, people who feel like you ruined their lives, the authorities etc. Living a normal life without all that is a blessing.

Exactly, we can relate Bitcoin to some inventions that stays since day 1 until now. Where inventors are just acknowledged for their work, that's how legendary made.

For me, even if Satoshi Nakamoto still exists or not anymore, Bitcoin will stay the same and will continue to grow just like what Satoshi Nakamoto expected.

The emergence of Satoshi a.k.a. bitcoin was indeed the best thing that has happened on tech space. Digital finance came just when it was due time for it in accordance with the trend and evolution in modern age. I strongly believe behind the evolving of bitcoin is a team led by one person who is the sole originator of such idea with they coming together to work collectively to achieving the bitcoin goal. Bitcoin till date will continue to evolve as satoshi is not known. If not for the disappearance of satoshi, I think they would have succeeded in bringing down bitcoin to being regulated and that would have caused more harm than the good for which it was created. Till today the satoshi emergence and disappearance is still a wonder yet to be understood.

It would baffle a lot of people and the fact that you measure satoshi's worth in wealth helps explain that.

It was never, at least not solely, intended to be just about wealth. And when the purpose appeared to be achieved, there was no reason for them to stay, snd every reason for them to depart, allowing for natural progression.

That single move is probably a big reason Bitcoin is where it is today.

I do not know what you are hinting at, but this is what really happened. Some great achievements in life require a great sacrifice.

Some scientists in the nineteenth century tried to inject themselves with the virus to try a new drug, and they were exposed to danger, and some of them may have died in order to achieve their goal and invent a new drug that saves humanity.

So what Satoshi did is not surprising, sacrificing wealth is much less than sacrificing life. Satoshi may have sacrificed his wealth that he obtained from inventing Bitcoin and mining the first blocks, but he provided a great service to humanity that will remember his name for hundreds of years.

I think it's part of a more sincere plan than just thinking about self-enriching. Also, if satoshi later decides to cash out all his bitcoins, I think the layman's assessment of bitcoin is no different from what they have considered other fraudulent entities in the past.

My two cents, Bitcoin is a perfectly organized insurgency operation against the central financial system, lol.

Not everyone is running for money in their life and Satoshi can be an example of it and that if his sole intention of creating Bitcoin is to bring decentralization into the monetary system, it also can be why he chose to be anonymous to avoid undue attention and to allow the project to evolve independently.

I can show you hundreds of revolutionary projects/ideas brought into the world but most of them were criticized and the project got dumped it then took centuries to figure out they were right at the end which means people are not yet ready to accept the change but it is about to so Saotshi may also choose his identity to be anonymous so no one is going after the individual and let's embrace the idea itself but years later the bitcoin turns out to be an inevitable valued thing in the world.

And we can speculate a lot about Satoshi but in the end, it can be just speculation unless he shows up and tell the truth.

Satoshi was forced to disappear so that his offspring would remain decentralized, as it was intended.

It should not be assumed that Satoshi (or a group of people under this pseudonym) are the serial creators of something revolutionary (although this can't be ruled out either, because he / they can work under new pseudonyms). Anything could happen, for example, the creator of bitcoin is no longer alive or they have exhausted their creative potential.

It remains (perhaps forever) beyond the unknown.

Wealth is only for the poor and the living. It is not known, probably he is not experiencing financial difficulties, if, of course, he is still alive. Think about it and then it will not confuse you.

Undoubtedly, any activity on Satoshi's wallets will make a splash not only on this forum, but throughout the entire crypto community. Until this happens, you can sleep peacefully.

It could have been a feint to confuse the likes of you. This also remains beyond the bounds of the unknown.

It is also possible that Satoshi continues to live among us, but we don't know anything about this. Apparently, it's better for him and for BTC.

The story of Satoshi will always be a big question for all of us, but I realize that whoever he is, we are all part of this market, there is so much and so much to it. The issue that I think needs more research is this question. I remember a story about a theory in mathematics where the tortoise and the hare run together and the hare will never catch up to the tortoise, just as Satoshi wants to remain anonymous and we keep looking for him, so we can't even find it. It would be simpler to just look at the facts of what is happening in and around this market space, whether it scares us or is more accepting of it.

Not having concrete information about who Satoshi is or what he looks like is mind blowing, tell me how decentralization will work if the centralization knows who to target? I know hex is probably a scam but if Richard Heart is unknown who will the SEC target? No one.

I prefer Bitcoin as the one decentralized crypto project because the maker is a ghost, other decentralized projects have developers that are well known around the world, that's why they can't maintain true decentralization when the government comes for them.

The ultimate sacrifice as a decentralized developer is working for the people without becoming famous in front of the camera, you want to exist in a centralized world? This is the only way.

It is interesting to speculate about Satoshi's current activities and the technologies he may have developed.  He might be involved in fields like artificial intelligence, cryptography or advanced blockchain technology.  Regarding what Satoshi was like as a person, unfortunately, we have no concrete information about his identity, family background or personality.  Anonymity is one of the fascinating quirks of this story. It would certainly be an amazing sight if one of his wallets became active, but only time will tell what happens.  As for Hal Finney's theory, it's an interesting conjecture, but as you've noted, it may not be the ultimate solution to the Satoshi mystery.

we do not know Satoshi, we cannot say for sure with a philosophical answer that has no meaning. He may have died, been killed, been arrested, lost his sight, had a big problem, or he just has enough money, or he does not want to show his identity, or or. This will remain one of the hypotheses that can last with us for a very long time and without a clear answer. All we will say are hypotheses that no one can prove or deny.

Think of every bitcoin that Satoshi didn't spend as an added value to your existing bitcoins, instead of 21 million bitcoins we have 20 million bitcoins which is good. if Satoshi appears, the value of Bitcoin may decrease.

The fact is, we have theories but we aren't sure. We don't have actual proofs, we can't confidently say that this or that is Satoshi Nakamoto. Maybe he is Hal Finney, it will be very logical because he was one of the first to use Bitcoin, at the same time he was American while Satoshi was posting in British English, probably make it more real that he and Hal were two different person. Deep in my guts I think that one wouldn't manage to remain anonymous for such a long time with such a big wealth. I think that Satoshi is dead in real life. At least what we all can say is that this man did absolutely everything to make Bitcoin number one and the most decentralized currency by sacrificing his virtual existence and it was way earlier than Hal Finney's death.

Bitcoin was far from perfect back in 2009. I highly doubt that Satoshi had viewed Bitcoin as something revolutionary and groundbreaking.
He probably viewed Bitcoin as an experiment, that might be successful or it might fail miserably. He didn't knew back in 2009 what will happen with Bitcoin 14 years later. I'm pretty much convinced at this point that Satoshi Nakamoto is dead. There's no point staying in the shadows forever and not touching the Bitcoins that you have in your own wallet. All the people asking "will Satoshi appear out of nowhere again?" are simply delusional.
 

Who knows, maybe he's cooking up another technological marvel in the shadows. As for their background, it's one of those tantalizing mysteries – were they a lone genius, a team, or an AI wizard? And you're spot on about the wallet activation - the world would erupt like a volcano. But I've got to admit, the idea of Satoshi blending in like a regular Joe, orchestrating change from the sidelines, is a fascinating twist. Or maybe he's an alien? I think the latter is better.

You don't need to worry about the where about of Satoshi because it is not important. No one can also say if he is dead or alive. Since one can fake his own death and travel to somewhere that no one will ever think of and remain there without no one notice. We don't know the identity of Satoshi and you might be at his side buying some stuffs in the supermarket and wouldn't know that this person is the great Satoshi. You know he is a very intelligent person and I believe that he has the foresight of what might happen to him if he reveal his identity as Satoshi. We should be happy that a man like him was given birth to the world. Someone that gave us financial freedom from the government financial entrapment.

Satoshi disappearance is good for Bitcoin community because it will increase the decentralized perspective, if Satoshi is still active communicate, attending seminars or anything that proving his identity, people will think Satoshi can fully control Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is a threat for centralized bank and fiat too, there have been many cases where someone invented a great thing and then suddenly there's a news if the creator is die without any clear reason.

He left because it gained popularity and the general community were going to keep supporting it. If he stayed around eventually he would of slipped up and his identity might of been reveled and I don’t think it would of been a good thing.

It’s good that he remains a mystery. Add some excitement and suspense to the coin. I tell people that nobody knows who created Bitcoin and they all get curious.

For me I personally think Satoshi is not just one person, the whole concept of making it to be a single person is particularly all made up and I don't think if Satoshi is even a single person he would be living among us today, I mean check out all the flawlessness of no one actually even getting in contact with him or she not even the people he worked with to develop this great technology? Sometimes I just feel the whole story about Satoshi isn't just clear enough but who am I to dip into the one of the mystery buried down deep in the abyss of life so I just learn to leave these taught and carry on the explanable shits I know.

Without a doubt doing what Satoshi did requires a mentality that is incredibly rare, to begin with the skill level needed to create bitcoin on its own is crazy, which is why there are many members which believe Satoshi could not have been a single person for this reason alone, however the fact that he could leave and let others develop the project in which he dedicated so much time and effort, and left behind a fortune which may one day make him the richest person alive requires a personality and thought process the majority of us will never understand.

The many stories, speculations and even myths surrounding the life and eventual disappearance of Satoshi Nakamoto - well, no one can even be sure if this is his real name - all contributed to the attractiveness and mystique of Bitcoin. There is no other cryptocurrency like Bitcoin and there has never been a founder with almost the same backdrop...only Satoshi got it and he left us with a legacy that will go on 'forever" or maybe until humanity remains to be viable on this planet. Right now, no one can be sure if the man is still alive or if he was already 6 feet below the ground...and it would be a BIG news if one day he would resurfaced and moved one of his many cache of BTC.

Satoshi might still be living among us or dead, but it doesn't matter; all that matters is that the technology he designed is working effectively the way he thought of it before or after creating Bitcoin.
Perhaps Satoshi said that a lost Bitcoin "only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more." So, a Bitcoiner should consider his lost wallet key as a donation to the success of Bitcoin technology, what if he also just distroy the key for his wallets that hold a huge sum of Bitcoin? In this life, before something can work the way we expected it to, there are some sacrifices we must make, which I guess is what Satoshi Nakamto did. He locked up a huge amount of Bitcoin in his wallet and probably distroyed the private key to the wallet. He also realised that his technology might not really be decentralised if he made himself known. So, it's all for the good of Bitcoin.

Satoshi's lesson.

The fortune you are mentioning is the bitcoin amount from Bitcoin Genesis block which initiated the Bitcoin blockchain and was done by Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi Nakamoto even owned more bitcoin than that Genesis block amount and we never know exact amount of Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin fortune.

Satoshi Nakamoto created a project to be decentralized so it makes a lot of sense to leave the community and eliminate all massive impacts from the founder's developments technically or from media with posts in the forum.

Satoshi went straught into it hustled to make the bitcoin blockchain, got a bunch of folks to help him, made it fool proof and then just was like welp okay I'm out, dueces. To never be heard from again, never even use any of their massive fortune, not a single lead as to where he is or what he is doing right now. What other world changing technology do you think they are working on right now?

Something I have always been so curious of is what is Satoshi like? How did he grow up, did he have any siblings and what were his parents like (assuming it's just one person and a male as opposed go a group of people).

It baffles me that someone could have such wealth and fortune and not even touch it for sooooo long. Could you imagine this forum shaking to its core if one of his wallets became active? That would he a sight to see.

I know so many people go for Hal Finney being Satoshi which would make a lot of sense since that major fortune hasn't been touched and Hal has been passed for about as long now, but why on earth would Satoshi make the first person he sent btc to be himself if he was trying to keep his identity a secret lol. That's why I think thay can't be. If you ask me Satoshi is out there living among us living an every day life, probably no different than an average upper middle class citizen so that he can keep to himself and never have any suspicion following them. That's just my 2 cents