Topic: Immortality.. could humanity achieve that? (Read 642 times)

I think someday probably will be able to reach , before many diseases were fatal are now treated much the same

Human being live forever may not be possible because of sin.  The penalty for sin is death and there is no history of any one ever live forever. Remember that those that thought that things are going to change because of technology are not familiar with history! 

From a spiritual point of view I believe that life goes on, energy is a provable point in favor that exists, the fact is to know if it passes to another universe or a different dimension, religion never talks about a similar possibility.

I have seen a lot of movies on this subject. No one knows much about it.

Personally I suppose, that immortality is an attainable goal for mankind. The question is how exactly this aim will be achieved. Now I see immortality to be as eternal life in a human body, but translocation of  human intelligence into artificial intelligence. Namely, I make sure that we will be able to create robots in human form at certain stages of technological development, in which one is able to  "introduce" mind, thoughts, feelings and memory of a certain man. Thus,  it makes this man being a relatively immortal.

Immortality is going to be sad and this is impossible to happen. Consciousness of the person can fade and if technology will create something to avoid it, that would be amazing but it's not going to be the original conscience of that person that technology tries to make immortal. Some improvements are viable to make our life span long but thinking of immortal, I don't think that there will be a way to trick the way of living that has been made by the creator, the supreme being.

The human body is like a machine, if something is damaged it is easily replaceable, I think that as medical technology advances, they will find some method for longevity, now for the only thing that is difficult to do is to revive a dead brain, they are So many cells and connections that the brain has and everything perfectly linked to work with each neuron.

I think that quantum computers could perform these algorithms to restore dead tissues, or maybe it already exists, we do not know. In an article I recently read that some people who die, a number of scientists talk to their relatives to use their bodies and try to see if they can be revived, with some treatments, of course, they promise nothing, but the family is left with a latent hope that if these tests are successful, they have the possibility of seeing their loved ones again.

I have heard it, but I don't think we can achieve immortality. We could replace organs with new and increase life expectancy but it would be impossible to do that for eternity. It is just too impossible, even an object that has no life, even we keep it, it wouldn't last for eternity what more for an object with life? Focus on the reality like what I will do now that will research about this website called bitrus that they say have good features.

I believe that with today's emerging technology can be applied to prosthesis in where in the future, some organs can be replaced by artificial ones therefore increasing the life expectancy of some patients who are amputees or those who are with critical organs.

I don't know about this.

1. There are nations and peoples who live longer, naturally, than the scientifically advanced ones... right now.

2. Only a few scientific advancements work to extend life better than good clean living with good hygiene.

3. Most scientific advancements have flaws in them that destroy life rather than increase it.

4. The above show us that we have a long way to go from the present average 70 year lifetime, to get even to the 200 year point. What about 500, or 1,000 or 10,000. We seem to be quite far from figuring any of the important stuff out, and way far from immortality.

Immortality exists. Whoever is a Christian knows that as a fact.

I think it is almost a certainty that, if the human race exists for centuries more, we will get to where we achieve immortality.

With technology doing its thing, immortality is something that is in our grasp. If we don't nuke ourselves first.

It's a little bit of a playing with the words "immorality" and "immortality," but it is not a theory.

The woman is to be under the influence of the man. Both are to be under the influence of God, but according to their free will.

Adam did not stop Eve's immoral act with the snake. And Eve didn't think about what she was doing...



The result is death. And we get death by transference, genetically... however deep that runs.


The universe was a perpetual motion machine. Entropy theorists like to talk about entropy being local... and that is what it was before Adam and Eve allowed/brought immorality into being. The universe still acts like the entropy theorists say, but it also is dying through entropy is ways that are difficult to detect by scientific observation, if you want to consider localized entropy at the same time.

The biggest trick is to determine why God allowed it all to be built that way. What was God's purpose in making mankind so weak that they can't levitate, for example... but so strong that they can collapse the universe and life. If atheists knew the clear answer to this, they would never have become atheists in the first place.

I think human lifespan could be further increased a little bit, but not true immortality. It might involve gene manipulation, which is already in a grey area. Also i can imagine nanotechnology to fight diseases and repair the body (making surgery obsolete).

 i think 40-50 years and it will be possible
but sooooo expensive. so les earn money!

Seconded. It is a thought-provoking theory, BADecker

I am very interested in your theory. Could you elaborate more on this theory or provide links to us so that we could learn more?

I doubt it. There comes a point when the soul becomes ready to leave. You can artificially extend life, preventing your physical vehicle from ceasing viability, but ultimately you would delay the inevitable. You may become mentally weary, unable to process much.

The body ceasing viability is part of this grand illusion that we call life, part of the process, the process of the curtains on the stage closing, when you go backstage.

Since humanity achieved immorality, immortality is probably impossible.

I think this future, where we can do such things is not too far from us. But I don't think that this is good, I would say that this is really bad. Because the death is what should happen with every being. Everything has its ending, and it is a rule of this world. If we really won't think about this we will have to cope with such problems as overpopulation. We already have this problem , but just think what would happen to our planet if anything doesn't have its ending (I don't like the word "death").

If you’re up to date with tech news or even transhumanism, you’ll be amazed with the different possibilities being explored to achieve immortality. Aside from AI (we could be cyborgs), we could turn digital and live via a virtual world. Immortality via technology, could be highly probable. I think the Virternity has already started a crowdfunding project for that. Have you heard of it?

maybe u could try the sleeping box like the movies we saw, add a bit scene so that you wouldn't be bored and then some aliens finally found u after a few thousand centuries 

I don't think human kind will ever achieve this.  I think the best we can do is manipulating genes to eradicate genetic defects and maybe improve medicine to cure illness.  That may prolong life, but it's still not immortality.

He's not asking if it can be done today but in the future. Ageing is probably -- or likely -- mostly genetic so I'm sure at some point we'll be able to turn that off due to genetic engineering and also live much longer due to medical advances and such, but there's a whole host of factors involved in ageing. Organs will just give up eventually so they'll either need to be replaced like car parts every so often or we'll need to invent new types of synthetic or mechanical organs -- but they can and will also break. I don't know if we'll ever be able to truly live forever but life expectancy could probably double within a hundred years or so. We'll likely improve our diet and eliminate a lot of causes of cancer and heart disease as we are learning how to minimize already, but you probably won't be able to ever eliminate dying due to trauma such as accidents and the longer you live the more likely you're going to be involved in them. Maybe someday we'll be able to upload or "save" our consciousness to a computer and maybe that will give us some sort of immortality, but it's a bit spooky even thinking about, but what actually is redlips06's definition of "forever"? The sun is going to explode and engulf this planet at some point so unless we can find another outside the solar system then we'll be screwed eventually. Even further on from that the universe will also probably collapse in on itself at some point so how would we survive that unless we can find a wormhole to another universe or dimension or something. I think we should just accept that one day we, the planet and also the universe are not going to exist any more and make the most of what we have now.

Okay, quess if we already achieved immortality. It raises a lot of new issues humanity never faced before. For example, what should we do with overpopulation? Freeze birth rate to zero?
Moreover, immortality would be extra-deluxe product only for rich people - I doubt common people will have access to it at all.

I think, that we have achieved that. And i am very sorry about it. We can see every day immorality: at the bus stop, at home, in our families. I think that the question must be - how can we pretend immorality ?

We can achieve immortality if someone discovers the solution.

Humans are currently at their longest lifespans ever.  Just 500 years ago, the average lifespan was 30 years.

Women got pregnant at 12 - raised their children for a decade and died. 

Well according to Hoybook, humans lived longer than 500years until this happened:

Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years." Genesis 6:3

Can life be extended beyond 120yrs limit? I have some doubt.

Wikipedia however claims that the oldest person on Earth is 122yrs. There could be some error here in my opinion. Or maybe only tiny amount of people could surpass this age limit by our Creator.

We're already doing that. In fact, our all our ancestors will ... one day be revived from death. Look at how technology has improved. I am confident to say that human will invent revival technology one day and use it on some of our famous ancestors to learn more from them. Even if my first prediction is wrong, the universe will never dies when earth became unpopulated or when human extinct. The universe will continues to run. One fine moment, when some chemicals somehow mixes together, you may wake up with all your memories (like how the first living organism was formed as predicted). It will just be like a blink for us after we're death. This is my personal theory.

Right now? No. Whether biologically or digital, the answer  to this is no. The only thing that exists after death is the afterlife, which none of us can confirm nor deny because it might be different for different people. But if you know a technology that can make us immortal let me know. I'd love to check it out.

You just imagine yourself so uninteresting and monotonous your life will be in the 100-200 years of your life. And let your body still be somewhat miraculous, but your mind will be too old and you will not have anything interesting in life.

one day yes ! nothing is impossible .

I believe this is the ultimate goal of technology and modern medicine, and I don't think we're all that far off. https://www.foxnews.com/tech/mankind-could-have-electronic-immortality-by-2050

It's not a question of if we can achieve this, but when. Then people have to ask themselves if this is what they even want. I'm not so sure it would be psychologically healthy to live "forever." (really just until the heat death of the universe)

I think they were talking about living forever, which is impossible.

You're describing a plaque on their church if they donate enough money.

The only way to "achieve" immortality, is to let God do it for you, and have faith that He is doing it... through the salvation provided by His son Jesus.

With all the developments with immersive technologies, I would not be surprised if immortality becomes a reality. So the question would be: When is it going to happen?

With the kind of technology we have now? No, because there isn't a technology that can make this happen, whether digitally or biologically. There's not even a company that is working on this. So the answer to your question is no. But come back after 50-100 years, maybe the future generation finally found a way to defeat once and for all.

I guess we might achieve mind immortality relatively soon. But I`m not really sure if people would really want that.

Not the first time I see this topic on this forum, well what can I say, look, we don't know what we're talking about, we didn't see no heaven, no hell, no reincarnation.
Let's not guess what and how, but just live for today

I am also very interested in what happens after death and whether immortality is possible at all, but it seems to me that if scientists create something like immortality in the world there will be a revolution most people will want to get it, because it seems to me that it is almost impossible, then the natural order of things will break

I have always been fascinated about what comes after death.. but what if.. there is no death?!
Imagine being able to live this immortal life where there is no aging and you can decide which age you should look like.
I think in the future, with all the technology innovation, we might even be able to achieve that, don't you think?