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February 19, 2018, 04:08:39 AM
#98
not impossible but very expensive
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February 18, 2018, 09:24:20 AM
#97
Is there any chance of drop prices of gpu both of Nvidia and Amd???


Price is not determined by both companies. Both companies would want their GPUs at MSRP. It is the distributors that are making the price hike because of the demand of these GPUs. As I see now not only gamers are affected of the GPU prices but also miners and new miners that want to build small mining rigs.
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February 18, 2018, 02:04:02 AM
#96
I had hoped that the price would drop but it went higher and higher and this will hurt ROI a lot
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February 18, 2018, 01:46:13 AM
#95
I have 27 Geforce GTX 1070 to sell also one 1080TI

Anybody interested?

600 each?
Someone wants to buy the whole pack for $16.000??

PM
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
February 17, 2018, 11:13:32 PM
#94
I have a few amd for sale at real prices not bullshit high at all.

Thread is in marketplace
jr. member
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February 17, 2018, 10:50:38 PM
#93
Well BTC just broke 11k ...all bets are off.  You wont be seeing GPU's returning to remotely close to decent prices on the used or retail market. Good luck my friends...Ive got 18 of them and getting more every week as I catch a deal (for these times anyway) here or there.

(1) 1080
(3) 1060
(7) 1050 TI
(1) RX 550
(1) RX 560
(1) RX 570
(4) RX 580

Im going for it!
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February 15, 2018, 04:49:18 PM
#92
Yes, give us volta... nvidia 2080...The cashflow will be milked for a long time before that happens though.
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February 15, 2018, 04:01:31 PM
#91
I might be able to help you, what gpus exactly do you want ? I'll be glad to help.
and I might need your opinion on something I'm building my own 1st rig too.
legendary
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February 15, 2018, 03:35:16 PM
#90
It's not BTC price you need to watch.

On the Nvidia side, it's "Volta Sales Date" you need to watch for - existing Pascal cards seem to be all from "left overs" from before Nvidia had TSMC shift production out of Pascal GPUs to Volta GPUs.

On the AMD side, it's ETH profitability that is the key figure, so indirectly ETH price which does NOT always move the same DIRECTION as BTC price much less the same percentage price change.


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February 15, 2018, 06:39:54 AM
#89
Looks like BTC is about to go above $10k again.  So much for GPU prices coming back down anytime soon...

it needs to go above 17,000 to indicate a bull run

even if it did the prices will never come down, this is the norm now
sr. member
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February 15, 2018, 05:46:51 AM
#88
I just keep an eye out for reasonably priced GPUs on one of the main shops in my country, they have a dedicated page for second hand hardware.

Some are trying to sell 570s for over 500$, vegas for 900+ and 1080tis for 1000+. But every now and then there's a reasonably priced GPU popping up, I check it a few times a day.

Just need to be patient. No point in buying overpriced hardware, keep that ROI in mind. Especially since the diff is very high on the most popular coins.
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February 15, 2018, 04:26:24 AM
#87
yes, at this time price GPUs very expensive for the new build Rig. of course, if calculate the ROI more long time. and price the bitcoin decrease. but I saw the price bitcoin start rise again.

legendary
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February 15, 2018, 03:52:07 AM
#86
I browsed a few retailers and they have little stock if you are willing to pay almost double MSRP.

Pretty sure some miners returned these GPUs after the profitability halved in the last 2 weeks.
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February 15, 2018, 03:47:52 AM
#85
Looks like BTC is about to go above $10k again.  So much for GPU prices coming back down anytime soon...
sr. member
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February 15, 2018, 03:23:11 AM
#84
in my country (europe) it is literally impossible to get a 1070 or better. There are loads of 1050, 1050TI and some 1060s, but the prices are insane. Every store has put a 1 GPU / person policy aswell, but that doesnt help. The used ones cost as much as i bought my new ones for!!! its insane.
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February 15, 2018, 03:15:55 AM
#83
Amazon checked in my GPU shipment, and it was sold within minutes. For double MSRP. Crazy!
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February 12, 2018, 01:29:11 AM
#82
Like remauto1187ma forecasts, give it 90 to 180 days and you may see GPU prices fall a bit by then. Course, that's assuming Volta (Ampere?) is released, and released in quantities sufficient enough to mollify both gamer and miner demands.
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February 12, 2018, 01:02:31 AM
#81
Is there any chance of drop prices of gpu both of Nvidia and Amd???
jr. member
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February 12, 2018, 12:53:32 AM
#80
Give it 30-60 days and ebay will be flooded with the miners that just couldnt afford to stay in the game and will be selling their equipment off.  The GPU market is already on borrowed time.  More and more GPU's in stock every day and prices coming down.  Just give it 30-90 days and GPU prices will be substantially lower.  If BTC ever gets back up to over 10k then who knows what will happen again with the GPU market. Most likely back up again.
legendary
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February 09, 2018, 08:54:53 PM
#79
The new Titan V might change that, given it's extreme "AI" focused performance at a MUCH lower price point than the previous options NVidia wanted to point folks at.

I wouldn't bet a LOT on that though.

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February 09, 2018, 09:07:04 AM
#78
One other big issue is the 10 series gpus are being used in machine learning in data centers as they provide significantly more bang for the buck than the ones nvidia is trying to sell to them.

Until there is a better solution at a better price for data centers, they will continue to drain the 1070 and 1080 stock as well.
legendary
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February 06, 2018, 04:25:38 PM
#77
In stock! https://www.evga.com/products/Product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6698-KR

That's my favorite mining GPU. Go get em!

They were probably gone by the time you finished typing and posting about them.

legendary
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February 06, 2018, 04:24:54 PM
#76
GPUs are still flowing, you just have need the right relationships to buy them at a decent price.  It might be time to take a breather on purchasing and wait three months for the gpu market to normalize if you're trying to jump in now.

The gpus are the first electronic device I have ever owned that appreciates even after use.

 A VERY temporary situation caused by the current extreme shortage.
sr. member
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February 06, 2018, 05:44:51 AM
#75
The next time that you see an ad for one of those gaming computers that comes with a 10 series GPU, add it to cart and see if there is a drop-down to add 2-3 cards at retail price.

lol, looks like you've been watching the same YT vids as me, thats what they are now doing to get round the price increases...
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February 06, 2018, 05:38:24 AM
#74

Technically its MSRP + $20, since this is the same card without the hybrid cooler.  I remember when I first started mining, my first 2 cards were refurbished evga 1080s that I got for $450 each, absolute steal.  I had the computer in my bedroom and quickly realized the amount of noise and heat I would have to deal with.  Shortly after I ordered 2 of their hybrid coolers for $125 a pop.  Best decision I ever made, cut the noise by 80% and didn't have to deal with throttling issues from my top card blowing a massive amount of heat on the card below it.  These hybrid cards are well worth the premium in my opinion.


are they water cooled?

my 2 video cards are heating up my upstairs house

Whether they are or not, they will still generate the same amount of heat. The only way to circumvent that is to run them in such a way that the radiators are not in the room.
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February 05, 2018, 10:48:06 PM
#73

Technically its MSRP + $20, since this is the same card without the hybrid cooler.  I remember when I first started mining, my first 2 cards were refurbished evga 1080s that I got for $450 each, absolute steal.  I had the computer in my bedroom and quickly realized the amount of noise and heat I would have to deal with.  Shortly after I ordered 2 of their hybrid coolers for $125 a pop.  Best decision I ever made, cut the noise by 80% and didn't have to deal with throttling issues from my top card blowing a massive amount of heat on the card below it.  These hybrid cards are well worth the premium in my opinion.


are they water cooled?

my 2 video cards are heating up my upstairs house
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February 05, 2018, 10:43:34 PM
#72

Technically its MSRP + $20, since this is the same card without the hybrid cooler.  I remember when I first started mining, my first 2 cards were refurbished evga 1080s that I got for $450 each, absolute steal.  I had the computer in my bedroom and quickly realized the amount of noise and heat I would have to deal with.  Shortly after I ordered 2 of their hybrid coolers for $125 a pop.  Best decision I ever made, cut the noise by 80% and didn't have to deal with throttling issues from my top card blowing a massive amount of heat on the card below it.  These hybrid cards are well worth the premium in my opinion.
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February 05, 2018, 09:45:41 PM
#71

The link I provided is for buying directly from the manufacturer, so your math should be: MSRP + $0.00
Their FTW3 Hybrid was always a flagship model and was $819.99 at the lowest back in 2017 during a Newegg promotion. Good enough price for me, since the FTW3 generates more hashes/sols than a 1080 Ti SC2, no other card will run cooler than this one, and that's the lowest price you're going to find. Sure beats paying hundreds more for used on eBay. I bought 3 using 3 accounts across 3 different mailing addresses. Will finally be able to finish 10th rig of 8 (80 Pascal GPUs, all water cooled). That's it for GPUs until Volta. Finished!

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February 05, 2018, 08:17:01 PM
#70
The next time that you see an ad for one of those gaming computers that comes with a 10 series GPU, add it to cart and see if there is a drop-down to add 2-3 cards at retail price.
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@cryptocommies
February 05, 2018, 07:25:54 PM
#69
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February 05, 2018, 07:25:10 PM
#68
GPUs are still flowing, you just have need the right relationships to buy them at a decent price.  It might be time to take a breather on purchasing and wait three months for the gpu market to normalize if you're trying to jump in now.

The gpus are the first electronic device I have ever owned that appreciates even after use.

Plus the iPhone X on launch day. Idiots paying 50% more in some cases. And some retro computer lol
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February 05, 2018, 07:16:37 PM
#67
The gpus are the first electronic device I have ever owned that appreciates even after use.

That just shows how screwed up the market is. I dont know why anyone is buying GPUs with this insane pricing. I remember refusing to buy 1070s because they were selling for $400 when they should have only been around $370. Now there are idiots out there paying $800+ for em.
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February 05, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
#66
GPUs are still flowing, you just have need the right relationships to buy them at a decent price.  It might be time to take a breather on purchasing and wait three months for the gpu market to normalize if you're trying to jump in now.

The gpus are the first electronic device I have ever owned that appreciates even after use.
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February 05, 2018, 07:06:58 PM
#65
You just said that the market is going to tank, and that we should invest in a shitcoin, in the same post...
Yup, better than to lose a few dollars invested rather than 1000's in dead gpus, give it 3 months and no one wil be able to sell a 1080ti for $400 even...there will be literally 10,000's of gpus hitting the 2nd hand market come summer when everyone gets bored with all this....all those trolleys of gpus are gonna come back to haunt us...

 Grin I will review this post in exactly 3 months.
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February 05, 2018, 07:00:43 PM
#64
In stock! https://www.evga.com/products/Product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6698-KR

That's my favorite mining GPU. Go get em!
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February 05, 2018, 04:32:06 AM
#63
You just said that the market is going to tank, and that we should invest in a shitcoin, in the same post...
Yup, better than to lose a few dollars invested rather than 1000's in dead gpus, give it 3 months and no one wil be able to sell a 1080ti for $400 even...there will be literally 10,000's of gpus hitting the 2nd hand market come summer when everyone gets bored with all this....all those trolleys of gpus are gonna come back to haunt us...
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February 05, 2018, 04:29:34 AM
#62
You just said that the market is going to tank, and that we should invest in a shitcoin, in the same post...
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February 05, 2018, 04:27:58 AM
#61
If you can obtain one/some 1080 ti's in the $600- $800 USD range, then definitely go for the card(s).  If over $1000 USD, maybe better to buy Bitcoin during the ongoing dip and HODL until supply & demand and Volta corrections occur to the Nvidia GPU markets.
This is the state of the UK gpu market...No1 supplier in the UK

https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/gpu-nvidia/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-graphics-cards

Cheapest card in stock £950 or $1350, and you can only purchase 1.

Crazy!
I don't get it, BTC has fallen through the floor, the legislation will stabalise it, but it's going to drop much lower, probably back to around $1000 a coin, and that will lower all crypto by same amount, peeps are never going to make the cost of the cards back.

Rather than buy equipment, just buy coin, far better option at the moment. Go but 1,000,000 of some 1 sat coin and when you sell it at 2 sats you'll have made more money than you ever will mining.
Don't encourage the gpu war 1 more day...think smart, not hard.
J

oh, if you must go buy gpus, buy 1030gts and rx550, you'll have a better roi on them than any other model at the moment...well until they all sell out and double in price Smiley
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February 05, 2018, 03:18:39 AM
#60
check out the info at:
Quick guide for GPU hunting in todays crypto environment
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/7uxgei/gpu_stock_thread_quick_guide_for_gpu_hunting_in/
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February 05, 2018, 01:51:22 AM
#59
Check allegro.pl there is many gtx to buy.
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February 05, 2018, 01:05:53 AM
#58
at bulk price....... not this 1k+ plus garbage.
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February 05, 2018, 01:00:57 AM
#57
im trying to put a buy order in for 30 1080ti gpus.. but alas. no one will sell me...

Should be able to collect them over a few days from different sellers.
Drive around to the stores and get the 2 max per person with yourself and a friend, and order the rest online.
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February 05, 2018, 12:21:15 AM
#56
im trying to put a buy order in for 30 1080ti gpus.. but alas. no one will sell me...
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February 04, 2018, 11:55:30 PM
#55
BTC down again and cant hold a rally. Down 60% off ATH. ETH down 35% from ATH and suppoort is stronger. #flippening 2018.

Yea this is NOT helping pay for my rig.   Sad
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February 04, 2018, 05:53:03 PM
#54
BTC down again and cant hold a rally. Down 60% off ATH. ETH down 35% from ATH and suppoort is stronger. #flippening 2018.
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February 04, 2018, 05:00:07 PM
#53
If you can obtain one/some 1080 ti's in the $600- $800 USD range, then definitely go for the card(s).  If over $1000 USD, maybe better to buy Bitcoin during the ongoing dip and HODL until supply & demand and Volta corrections occur to the Nvidia GPU markets.
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February 04, 2018, 10:20:50 AM
#52
Well I finally got lucky, 3 times in a row in fact.  On Thursday I was able to snag 3 different 1080tis.  I'd definitely prefer having 3 of the same cards but unless I feel like throwing my wallet in the fire to do so, I'll take what I can get.  I'll also use this as an opportunity and see some different brand (Gigabyte Waterforce/EVGA/MSI Gaming [which I'm already comfortable with]) performance and report back.
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February 04, 2018, 02:32:15 AM
#51
1030s are back in Stock,
Go get them boys and girls  Grin
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Bitcoin FTW!
February 03, 2018, 09:46:59 PM
#50
MSRP is rising for sure and its become considerably harder to acquire cards as more people are using bots on retailers and things go even quicker than they did last week.  I was able to snatch two more this week but found it easiest to get direct from EVGA website.
If you manage to get a "gold" membership or whatever it's called on EVGA's site you'll be able to access even more deals. I recently noticed some cheap 1080s on their site but they were only for their special members, but I'm not sure what the requirements are for it though. Some people qualify, some don't.
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February 03, 2018, 08:49:25 PM
#49
MSRP is rising for sure and its become considerably harder to acquire cards as more people are using bots on retailers and things go even quicker than they did last week.  I was able to snatch two more this week but found it easiest to get direct from EVGA website.
legendary
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February 03, 2018, 08:16:12 PM
#48
I snuck in a 1070 ti from Newegg this week - bit higher than MSRP but I think that's mostly ram prices.
Almost pulled the trigger on a 1080 ti in the same order, but it was priced a little TOO high (Asus blower model at $900) and I skipped it.

jr. member
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February 03, 2018, 04:00:43 AM
#47
The GPU gods hooked me up today.  I snagged (2) RX 580 (1) GTX 1080 all from Newegg and way cheaper than what most are selling for.  $399 and $439 for the 570s!  I use the google groups for alerts.  You have to have your phone or PC ready to go for places like newegg. Save your card info except for the CCV code and goto town on PLACE ORDER button!
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February 03, 2018, 01:43:30 AM
#46
From my experience, most buyers are honest. Only had a handful try to return the wrong (cheaper) item or an empty package for a full refund, and eBay/PayPal have always decided in my (the seller's) favor in those rare instances. However, in the past, I've mostly sold collectible items that only go up in value with time, so even if I offered everyone a full refund with over the past 20 years of selling, odds are, I'd have zero takers since their collectibles are worth exponentially more now. Regarding reselling mining hardware, I'd be leery of those buyers that wants to rent your GPU or ASIC for free by opening a dispute on day 60 because he's not 100% satisfied (because difficulty increased or newer hardware was released). EBay and/or PayPal will allow the return, even if you don't accept returns, and will make you (the seller) pay for return shipping.
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February 03, 2018, 01:37:23 AM
#45
Why would one buy gpus right now with eth pow ending and the new generation of cards coming out, just buy btc instead...

eth pow is not ending. it wont end anytime soon. vitalik is dangling that POS carrot so asic manufacturers dont invest in developing one for ethash. another possibility, they havent figured it out yet. im leaning more towards 2nd option.
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February 03, 2018, 01:12:01 AM
#44
I ordered a 1080 Armor on Amazon yesterday for MSRP. I am just trying to figure out where to flip the cards without getting jacked! I want to flip them and get some more for a cheap rig cost. Worried about selling on Ebay and getting robbed though.
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February 02, 2018, 06:09:23 PM
#43
Now when the prices of every coin in the cryptospace has fallen this low and mining is not as profitable as it should be, ppl should be panic selling their mining GPUs? But its not happening!! Why all the HODL mentality, i would like to buy cheap GPUs!!  Grin Grin

 1) Profitability is STILL higher than a lot of the past year.
 2) It wasn't MINERS that caused the current shortage (though we did have a lot of input into the SPRING shortage).

 We're just not seeing a lot of mining GROWTH right now (except to a degree on Ethereum), but profitability isn't to the point of "panic sale" yet, it's just dropped to the point of "achieving 100% ROI is VERY iffy, stop building NEW rigs" for most folks.




We were happy to pull out 0.5$ profit from card back in the day.
Today anything below 5$ is not good...someone got spoiled.
legendary
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February 02, 2018, 05:08:30 PM
#42
Now when the prices of every coin in the cryptospace has fallen this low and mining is not as profitable as it should be, ppl should be panic selling their mining GPUs? But its not happening!! Why all the HODL mentality, i would like to buy cheap GPUs!!  Grin Grin

 1) Profitability is STILL higher than a lot of the past year.
 2) It wasn't MINERS that caused the current shortage (though we did have a lot of input into the SPRING shortage).

 We're just not seeing a lot of mining GROWTH right now (except to a degree on Ethereum), but profitability isn't to the point of "panic sale" yet, it's just dropped to the point of "achieving 100% ROI is VERY iffy, stop building NEW rigs" for most folks.

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February 01, 2018, 07:19:32 PM
#41
Now when the prices of every coin in the cryptospace has fallen this low and mining is not as profitable as it should be, ppl should be panic selling their mining GPUs? But its not happening!! Why all the HODL mentality, i would like to buy cheap GPUs!!  Grin Grin

I HODL gpus b/c they go up in value better than the coins. the fact it pumps out coins is just an added bonus.  I had a feeling this would happen so I bought as much 1070 ti as I can afford on my credit card the first month they got released.  I GPU  FOSO   fear of selling out.

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February 01, 2018, 07:07:06 PM
#40
Now when the prices of every coin in the cryptospace has fallen this low and mining is not as profitable as it should be, ppl should be panic selling their mining GPUs? But its not happening!! Why all the HODL mentality, i would like to buy cheap GPUs!!  Grin Grin
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February 01, 2018, 06:57:52 PM
#39

The new gen of nivida cards and the stupid inflated prices of the current cardss is why im not buying

im buying crypto atm

Had I not bought 4 cards at the start of Jan then I'd be investing in Crypto as well, pretty good time to do that.
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February 01, 2018, 06:00:47 PM
#38
Why would one buy gpus right now with eth pow ending and the new generation of cards coming out, just buy btc instead...
no one knows when eth pow will end stop with that bs

The new gen of nivida cards and the stupid inflated prices of the current cardss is why im not buying

im buying crypto atm
jr. member
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February 01, 2018, 05:58:28 PM
#37
Why would one buy gpus right now with eth pow ending and the new generation of cards coming out, just buy btc instead...
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DCAB
February 01, 2018, 05:52:29 PM
#36
I have auto notify on multiple legit venders
I get google group notifications
I get emails from nowinstock
I've searched far, wide, low, high
I've even sacrificed my first born.

Well maybe not the last one but sometimes...I'm so frustrated with just trying to buy one damn GPU to start my next rig.  Within literally seconds, 5-6 at most, from getting my auto notifications the stock is gone.  I can't even login fast enough to hit pay.  People must just have Captcha work around and auto buy scripts going for everything.  Is there a pre-order site?  Anything where I can put money down in a card that isn't asininely priced by vultures?  Angry

You just gotta be patient. I’m a generally patient person and when I do see them pop up for MSRP I buy as many as I can because I know people are willing to pay a premium to not have to be patient. So, quite literally, patience is a marketable asset.
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February 01, 2018, 05:49:39 PM
#35
I ordered 3 1080 TIs at MSRP the past couple days. Just need to be quick.

Nice, what from retailer? I've got auto notifies everywhere trying..
legendary
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February 01, 2018, 05:11:00 PM
#34
30 days ago you could buy any GPU for close to MSRP. Amazing what difference a few weeks make. According to Angry Chicken's last video on Youtube the shortage is due to Nvidia's manufacturing shifting to the new Volta GPU's. It may be a rough couple months until the new line is released. I also got a feeling the current price run up is going to lead to sticker shock once the new GPU's are out due to increased manufacturing costs from the smaller 12 nM process for Volta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op3h_bV3ohA

 40 days ago more like, and ONLY on the Nvidia side - AMD cards haven't been close to MSRP (except Vega) since spring, and the Vega low prices evaporated before Thanksgiving when the "killer on Monero" guides got widespread.

 I don't anticipate a huge price jump on MSRP for the Volta cards - we didn't get one from Maxwell to Pascal after all, despite 28nm being a MUCH bigger jump on cost to 16nm vs 16nm to 12nm (which is the same NODE, just upgraded on the process and misnamed).
 I DO anticipate a 10-15% jump due to the move to GDDR6 and memory pricing jumps in general, and won't be shocked at 20%.




Here is archive.com's snapshot of Newegg's GPU page from 12/31. You could buy just about any Nvidia card for close to MSRP and they were in stock, albeit 1 per customer in most cases.

https://web.archive.org/web/20171127075041/https://www.newegg.com/Desktop-Graphics-Cards/SubCategory/ID-48

The last AMD RX 580 8GB I bought was in the middle of last month for $279 which is ALOT closer to MSRP of $229 than the $500+ they are now.

 Your link is showing a date of 27 November, not 31 December.

 I don't count a 22% premium OVER MSRP on a card that was seilling 10-11 months ago for UNDER MSRP as being "close to MSRP" - closer than now certainly, but not really "close".


 It's starting to look like the PRIMARY cause for the current shortage was timing on Nvidia's part, in having TSMC shift from Pascal production to Volta production "around the end of the year" and RIGHT AFTER the busy Christmas season.
 For a change, Nvidia ran out FIRST then the gamers started grabbing AMD cards 'cause they were still available - and a week later POOF both sides have run out of inventory at the retailers and stock in the pipeline.

 I suspect demand drop on the mining side isn't that big of a factor, as I don't think it was much of a factor in CAUSING the current shortage.
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February 01, 2018, 08:24:13 AM
#33
There is always the opportunity to buy the GPU from intermediaries. They sell expensive but you get your order very quickly. In mining time is money. Perhaps you have a reason to buy more. But now I don't recommend to buy equipment. The decline in profitability observed in all the algorithms. Very soon the demand will decrease and you will buy a cheaper GPU.

I'm hoping you're correct regarding demand increase from lack of profitability.  Though with the last few weeks of tumult I thought we'd already be seeing some demand side reduction.  Obviously we're all hedging on pricing coming back up so that doesn't help...

I'll just keep trying to get it at MSRP  Sad
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February 01, 2018, 07:42:09 AM
#32
I ordered 3 1080 TIs at MSRP the past couple days. Just need to be quick.

Dude I can't be any quicker than 4 seconds from notification emails.  They're always pulled out of my shopping cart by the time I hit purchase.

Dare I ask where your're buying?

I had the same thing happen a bunch of times. I got two on Amazon and 1 from Nvidia. Supposed to ship next week.
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February 01, 2018, 07:41:28 AM
#31
There is always the opportunity to buy the GPU from intermediaries. They sell expensive but you get your order very quickly. In mining time is money. Perhaps you have a reason to buy more. But now I don't recommend to buy equipment. The decline in profitability observed in all the algorithms. Very soon the demand will decrease and you will buy a cheaper GPU.
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February 01, 2018, 07:32:14 AM
#30
I ordered 3 1080 TIs at MSRP the past couple days. Just need to be quick.

Dude I can't be any quicker than 4 seconds from notification emails.  They're always pulled out of my shopping cart by the time I hit purchase.

Dare I ask where your're buying?
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February 01, 2018, 05:31:11 AM
#29
It is so funny that all GPUs worldwide are sold out or so expensive, that nearly nobody will buy them...
WTF is happening Smiley Nowadays you can make more money by selling your rig(s) then the rig(s) can mine ^^
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February 01, 2018, 05:18:10 AM
#28
it's the same here in China. Besides, our gorv is banning big farm.
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February 01, 2018, 05:14:48 AM
#27
You people are stupid, you should not be buying gpus, you should be selling hehe
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February 01, 2018, 05:02:27 AM
#26
I've had a local supplier come out and tell me that they've been asked only to sell bundles with mobos.
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February 01, 2018, 01:00:14 AM
#25
I ordered 3 1080 TIs at MSRP the past couple days. Just need to be quick.
Plus limit is one, who wants a rig with mismatching GPUs?

Doesn't mean they need to be ordered at the same time or from the same vendor. Anyway, I will flip them to reduce my rig cost.
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February 01, 2018, 12:55:22 AM
#24
I have auto notify on multiple legit venders
I get google group notifications
I get emails from nowinstock
I've searched far, wide, low, high
I've even sacrificed my first born.

Well maybe not the last one but sometimes...I'm so frustrated with just trying to buy one damn GPU to start my next rig.  Within literally seconds, 5-6 at most, from getting my auto notifications the stock is gone.  I can't even login fast enough to hit pay.  People must just have Captcha work around and auto buy scripts going for everything.  Is there a pre-order site?  Anything where I can put money down in a card that isn't asininely priced by vultures?  Angry

Wait for summer, the market will be flooded and prices will be cut in half when BTC drops back to $4000 support level by April. Many will be forced to stop mining in the heat of summer.

Actually, the heat of summer has not had any affect on mining ever.

I was surprised also.

But I guess most people just vent the air outside.

It absolutely does. Watch difficulties drop significantly by April-May and profitability stay the same because BTC will also drop as well.

I mined from Dec 2013 to April 2014 and stopped as it got so hot. If I had not stopped I would not have had a mortgage today.
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February 01, 2018, 12:53:23 AM
#23
I ordered 3 1080 TIs at MSRP the past couple days. Just need to be quick.

Yea quick. I get notifications too but as soon as I click next its out of stock already. Typically less than 5 minutes.

Plus limit is one, who wants a rig with mismatching GPUs?
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February 01, 2018, 12:44:26 AM
#22
I have auto notify on multiple legit venders
I get google group notifications
I get emails from nowinstock
I've searched far, wide, low, high
I've even sacrificed my first born.

Well maybe not the last one but sometimes...I'm so frustrated with just trying to buy one damn GPU to start my next rig.  Within literally seconds, 5-6 at most, from getting my auto notifications the stock is gone.  I can't even login fast enough to hit pay.  People must just have Captcha work around and auto buy scripts going for everything.  Is there a pre-order site?  Anything where I can put money down in a card that isn't asininely priced by vultures?  Angry

Wait for summer, the market will be flooded and prices will be cut in half when BTC drops back to $4000 support level by April. Many will be forced to stop mining in the heat of summer.

Actually, the heat of summer has not had any affect on mining ever.

I was surprised also.

But I guess most people just vent the air outside.
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February 01, 2018, 12:42:32 AM
#21
I have auto notify on multiple legit venders
I get google group notifications
I get emails from nowinstock
I've searched far, wide, low, high
I've even sacrificed my first born.

Well maybe not the last one but sometimes...I'm so frustrated with just trying to buy one damn GPU to start my next rig.  Within literally seconds, 5-6 at most, from getting my auto notifications the stock is gone.  I can't even login fast enough to hit pay.  People must just have Captcha work around and auto buy scripts going for everything.  Is there a pre-order site?  Anything where I can put money down in a card that isn't asininely priced by vultures?  Angry

Wait for summer, the market will be flooded and prices will be cut in half when BTC drops back to $4000 support level by April. Many will be forced to stop mining in the heat of summer.
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February 01, 2018, 12:42:12 AM
#20
I ordered 3 1080 TIs at MSRP the past couple days. Just need to be quick.
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February 01, 2018, 12:39:45 AM
#19
Yes. in indonesia, price of Amd RX570 card is very expensive, about $575 each
it is insane!
recomended buy ASIC mining, because GPU card shortage at the moment
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January 31, 2018, 11:56:34 PM
#18
Just buy Asics from bitmain,  They got a T9 and A3 in stock for a few days so far.

You'll make more than GPU at least 15+ dollars a day, Why pay top dollar 1080 ti at around $1300 that will only bring  3.5-4 dollars a day. Makes no sense

Stop crying over gpus  and get some ascis that are in stock.

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January 31, 2018, 10:49:18 PM
#17
I work for Amazon and indeed, a huge complain we receive from our customers are the insane demand GPu's have and the inflated prices. I suggest you to go to a physical dealer or even purchase a GPU with some use, nowadays and depending the location is truly impossible...

this's nice sounds reason why very difficult get GPU although rise price. atm almost all dealer or offline store GPU said: empty stock, the stock will arrive 2 weeks, or said I send a message if the stock is ready, whatever that's.

the manufacturer, dealer, the seller has monopolized GPU prices.
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January 31, 2018, 10:47:00 PM
#16
30 days ago you could buy any GPU for close to MSRP. Amazing what difference a few weeks make. According to Angry Chicken's last video on Youtube the shortage is due to Nvidia's manufacturing shifting to the new Volta GPU's. It may be a rough couple months until the new line is released. I also got a feeling the current price run up is going to lead to sticker shock once the new GPU's are out due to increased manufacturing costs from the smaller 12 nM process for Volta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op3h_bV3ohA

 40 days ago more like, and ONLY on the Nvidia side - AMD cards haven't been close to MSRP (except Vega) since spring, and the Vega low prices evaporated before Thanksgiving when the "killer on Monero" guides got widespread.

 I don't anticipate a huge price jump on MSRP for the Volta cards - we didn't get one from Maxwell to Pascal after all, despite 28nm being a MUCH bigger jump on cost to 16nm vs 16nm to 12nm (which is the same NODE, just upgraded on the process and misnamed).
 I DO anticipate a 10-15% jump due to the move to GDDR6 and memory pricing jumps in general, and won't be shocked at 20%.




Here is archive.com's snapshot of Newegg's GPU page from 12/31. You could buy just about any Nvidia card for close to MSRP and they were in stock, albeit 1 per customer in most cases.

https://web.archive.org/web/20171127075041/https://www.newegg.com/Desktop-Graphics-Cards/SubCategory/ID-48

The last AMD RX 580 8GB I bought was in the middle of last month for $279 which is ALOT closer to MSRP of $229 than the $500+ they are now.
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January 31, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
#15
30 days ago you could buy any GPU for close to MSRP. Amazing what difference a few weeks make. According to Angry Chicken's last video on Youtube the shortage is due to Nvidia's manufacturing shifting to the new Volta GPU's. It may be a rough couple months until the new line is released. I also got a feeling the current price run up is going to lead to sticker shock once the new GPU's are out due to increased manufacturing costs from the smaller 12 nM process for Volta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op3h_bV3ohA

 40 days ago more like, and ONLY on the Nvidia side - AMD cards haven't been close to MSRP (except Vega) since spring, and the Vega low prices evaporated before Thanksgiving when the "killer on Monero" guides got widespread.

 I don't anticipate a huge price jump on MSRP for the Volta cards - we didn't get one from Maxwell to Pascal after all, despite 28nm being a MUCH bigger jump on cost to 16nm vs 16nm to 12nm (which is the same NODE, just upgraded on the process and misnamed).
 I DO anticipate a 10-15% jump due to the move to GDDR6 and memory pricing jumps in general, and won't be shocked at 20%.


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January 31, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
#14
I've had some success with the official EVGA website, they seem to restock at the same time (1-2am GMT) every day and if you refresh for a bit you have a good chance of catching some.

 EVGA_Jason has been bouncing restock time around quite a bit for the last 2 weeks or so.

 Restock numbers also seem to be TINY there.

 I suspect Nvidia might be regretting a bit their decision to have TSMC switch production over to Volta consumer cards "around the end of the year", as it seems to be a MAJOR or even THE PRIMARY reason Nvidia cards above the 1050ti are in crazy-short supply since right after Christmas.


 eBay isn't the only source for "cheap old servers" usable for CPU mining, though some of the sources FOR those servers do have eBay shops as well as their own sales page.

 "open compute" servers in particular tend to be quite low cost compared to their CPU mining performance, if you look at the older "Windmill" and "Winterborn" generation surplus refurb gear.

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January 31, 2018, 09:55:32 PM
#13
They fluctuate. Just keep an eye on prices; when I bought my 1060s, 580s were way too expensive. Two months later I snagged 6 of them at around $290 each (while 1060s were double what I'd paid), now the 580s are double as well. Patience and luck.

In the meantime, look into used, or even into CPU mining (there are a couple interesting threads that explain how to do it with cheap old servers off ebay)...
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January 31, 2018, 09:54:01 PM
#12
30 days ago you could buy any GPU for close to MSRP. Amazing what difference a few weeks make. According to Angry Chicken's last video on Youtube the shortage is due to Nvidia's manufacturing shifting to the new Volta GPU's. It may be a rough couple months until the new line is released. I also got a feeling the current price run up is going to lead to sticker shock once the new GPU's are out due to increased manufacturing costs from the smaller 12 nM process for Volta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op3h_bV3ohA
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January 31, 2018, 09:45:58 PM
#11
I have auto notify on multiple legit venders
I get google group notifications
I get emails from nowinstock
I've searched far, wide, low, high
I've even sacrificed my first born.

Well maybe not the last one but sometimes...I'm so frustrated with just trying to buy one damn GPU to start my next rig.  Within literally seconds, 5-6 at most, from getting my auto notifications the stock is gone.  I can't even login fast enough to hit pay.  People must just have Captcha work around and auto buy scripts going for everything.  Is there a pre-order site?  Anything where I can put money down in a card that isn't asininely priced by vultures?  Angry

I was able to put place a couple of items on new egg....had them snatched out
placed an order on nvidia even got my 2 1080tis in to the cart, typed in my credit card....went to hit pay.....had them snatched out

im on auto notify also, and nothing not 1 email. the first month of the year has been a total disaster.

think of the gamer whos card broke, and cant game because he cant find one, or, cant afford one.

all the while my 1070, which is selling for $999 (and dont listen to anyone who says they are in stock at at retail price because you cant buy them) struggles to make $2 dollars a day!!!'

when does the price go down? January is over and done with, February looks to be disastrous for anyone looking for GPU.

I call bullshit on it all! I say the video card cartel, all sat together and thought about creating a shortage, and have bots buying everything with automated software and now the prices you see are the prices that will always be.

Of course the low IQ people will say other wise, but common sense tells you no human is that fast
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January 31, 2018, 09:42:54 PM
#10
Ironically, there's more supply of current gen GPUs available for purchase eBay than ever before, thanks to arbitrage gone wild.
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January 31, 2018, 09:25:27 PM
#9
I've had some success with the official EVGA website, they seem to restock at the same time (1-2am GMT) every day and if you refresh for a bit you have a good chance of catching some.
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January 31, 2018, 09:24:07 PM
#8
You just have to wait it out at this point or get really lucky.  The market isnt going to get better anytime soon.  If anything the last week has been the worst.  People have figured out all the bots and quick checkout scripts for all the major retailers.  Used to be able to get a few cards a week before they sold out.  Now you have to be on the second they are listed or the bots grab them all.  Emails and notify really only work for EVGA elite members if you are lucky to get one quick.  Its possible I picked up a 1080ti this evening from EVGA.  Just gotta be patient and act fast.
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January 31, 2018, 09:23:35 PM
#7
I work for Amazon and indeed, a huge complain we receive from our customers are the insane demand GPu's have and the inflated prices. I suggest you to go to a physical dealer or even purchase a GPU with some use, nowadays and depending the location is truly impossible...
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January 31, 2018, 09:22:41 PM
#6
Seriously  Angry Angry Angry

Another stock came into Amazon of MSI 1080ti's just in the last 30 seconds.

I couldn't even add them to my cart in time before they were gone.
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January 31, 2018, 09:22:06 PM
#5
How about our own forum's marketplace?  Plenty for sale if your willing to pay.
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January 31, 2018, 09:21:14 PM
#4
Everybody buying GPU right now is a vulture except the casual computer gamer who wants just ONE card to play games with.

Your best bet is to find a local retailer and be there the morning they open when a truck comes in.

Otherwise you better get a script working or you'll never get anything.
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January 31, 2018, 09:20:01 PM
#3
Patience is virtue, this has been a main requirement in crypto world, not only to traders but to miners as well. another thing do is to talk with known local suppliers and take a reservations if possible.
I've been trying for 4 weeks now just to get one.  I have patience, but it's running thin and I thought I'd vent to others who'd understand.  I've actually checked with my local shops and they've all said good luck, even ones that are mining savvy.

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He understood  Grin

Tongue in cheek matey.  Though I think he's getting pretty disappointed he can't put another rig together with me.  Good father/son tech bonding.
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January 31, 2018, 09:15:20 PM
#2
I have auto notify on multiple legit venders
I get google group notifications
I get emails from nowinstock
I've searched far, wide, low, high
I've even sacrificed my first born.

Well maybe not the last one but sometimes...I'm so frustrated with just trying to buy one damn GPU to start my next rig.  Within literally seconds, 5-6 at most, from getting my auto notifications the stock is gone.  I can't even login fast enough to hit pay.  People must just have Captcha work around and auto buy scripts going for everything.  Is there a pre-order site?  Anything where I can put money down in a card that isn't asininely priced by vultures?  Angry

Patience is virtue, this has been a main requirement in crypto world, not only to traders but to miners as well. another thing do is to talk with known local suppliers and take a reservations if possible.

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I've even sacrificed my first born.

Are you serious with this? Man.. this is sad Sad
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January 31, 2018, 09:08:18 PM
#1
I have auto notify on multiple legit venders
I get google group notifications
I get emails from nowinstock
I've searched far, wide, low, high
I've even sacrificed my first born.

Well maybe not the last one but sometimes...I'm so frustrated with just trying to buy one damn GPU to start my next rig.  Within literally seconds, 5-6 at most, from getting my auto notifications the stock is gone.  I can't even login fast enough to hit pay.  People must just have Captcha work around and auto buy scripts going for everything.  Is there a pre-order site?  Anything where I can put money down in a card that isn't asininely priced by vultures?  Angry
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