In Japan, Cryptominer Gets the First Blood in Jail Time

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Oh wow. At first I assumed that we are talking about some guy spreading mining malware. But getting a jail sentence for merely for running a JavaScript miner... that's pretty tough.

Quote from: CryptoDamon on July 03, 2018, 12:09:19 AM

For me it is one way of violating one's privacy, mining without our consent.

Monetization via mining scripts is pretty much the only way to monetize a website without charging subscription fees or selling your users' data. Compared to other means it's preserving your users' privacy. I'm not saying that I support websites running mining scripts, it's just that I don't see the alternatives as much more enticing.

Quote from: CryptoDamon on July 04, 2018, 01:20:39 AM

One thing that I couldn't understand from these guys doing this cunny stuff online, making remote miners from PC's who visits their site is that is it really worth it? What I've known is, when it comes to mining, high end gpu's and computer's should be used for it to actually make profit from it or are they just that desperate on taking advantage of other people in exchange for few cents?

It's a question of quantity and likely a lack of alternatives.

A handful of visitors will only give you a fraction of a cent, regardless of whether you monetize via advertising or via a mining script. Once you start looking at tens or even hundreds of thousands of daily visitors though, these fractions start to accumulate. I have no idea how profitable running a mining script is compared to running ads, but I presume that most websites that run mining scripts are not able to run high paying ads an alternative (eg. advertisers pay more for a blog about financial consulting than your friendly neighbourhood torrent site).

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Quote from: krishnapramod on July 04, 2018, 02:30:37 AM

Better to use No Coin or minerBlock extension.

https://fossbytes.com/block-cryptocurrency-mining-in-browser

https://badpackets.net/how-to-find-cryptojacking-malware

Thanks for this. I'm gonna check it out and try using this in my browser.

Quote from: mithrim on July 04, 2018, 02:50:23 AM

I really don't get why people are so pissed about it.

I got you brother. There are just some people who have different views when it comes to mining with/without consent. We should also take into consideration
that we came from different walks of life and we do have different perceptions about everything. We just have to respect each others opinions on different matter.

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It certainly is a fine line, but mining without "consent" is relative. You could easily add a paragraph in your TOS of the site. And where is the difference to sites that use up a lot of resources because they are badly made? Nobody forces someone to visit a site. You can almost always drill it down to cost (or the use of resources).

If you visit a site and you aren't willing to allocate the "necessary" resources, just leave. Nothing in life is for free once work (of any kind) is involved. If you got something for free it's just because someone else decided to give it to you. If he changes his mind and won't give you his work for free, the only two options that you have is either to accept his new term or to decline.

I really don't get why people are so pissed about it.

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If you search for "coinhive.min.js" on publicwww then about 22532 websites are using Coinhive for mining with/without user consent.

https://publicwww.com/websites/coinhive.min.js

Then there are a couple of less popular alternatives like Coin-Loot and CoinImp.

List of a few top websites, https://blog.netlab.360.com/file/top_web_mining_sites.txt

Better to use No Coin or minerBlock extension.

https://fossbytes.com/block-cryptocurrency-mining-in-browser

https://badpackets.net/how-to-find-cryptojacking-malware

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Quote from: joniboini on July 03, 2018, 01:47:43 AM

They're probably using javascript, something like coinhive (if I name it correctly). If you wanted to be free from such sites, better disable javascript when you browse, unless you really need it. Take a look at your CPU statistics when you browse, if you're only browsing 'light sites', but your CPU activities is so high (90% utilization or more) then it is likely that those sites have something behind.

I remember visiting some sites, personal blog, that uses coinhive script on every page. However, listing such sites would not help that much 'cause they might died soon after being reported as malicious sites.

Just turn off your javascript and you're good to go. CMIIW.

Thanks for enlightening me on this matter. I'm gonna read more about this kinds of stuffs to prevent myself from being a victim. I'm very cautious when it comes to visiting sites and clicking links so I guess I'm not really exposed to this remote mining. One thing that I couldn't understand from these guys doing this cunny stuff online, making remote miners from PC's who visits their site is that is it really worth it? What I've known is, when it comes to mining, high end gpu's and computer's should be used for it to actually make profit from it or are they just that desperate on taking advantage of other people in exchange for few cents?

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Quote from: CryptoDamon on July 03, 2018, 12:09:19 AM

But how would we know? Can you share some sites that are currently doing this remote mining without our consent? as long as we are visiting the site? Is there a way that we can detect or monitor such activities that is running silently using our machine? Please add some important links for newbies not to be taken advantaged by those people mining remotely in websites.

They're probably using javascript, something like coinhive (if I name it correctly). If you wanted to be free from such sites, better disable javascript when you browse, unless you really need it. Take a look at your CPU statistics when you browse, if you're only browsing 'light sites', but your CPU activities is so high (90% utilization or more) then it is likely that those sites have something behind.

I remember visiting some sites, personal blog, that uses coinhive script on every page. However, listing such sites would not help that much 'cause they might died soon after being reported as malicious sites.

Just turn off your javascript and you're good to go. CMIIW.

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Helpful read thank you

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https://news.bitcoin.com/japan-jail-sentence-crypto-miner-remote-mining/

Mining crypto is a passion not just a business. You need time, effort and dedication for you to succeed. In this article this man was facing jail sentence in Japan for using a remote mining tool. He is mining using other people's computer or machine.
For me it is one way of violating one's privacy, mining without our consent. I know this is so rampant now and there are some sites that are doing this. But how would we know? Can you share some sites that are currently doing this remote mining without our consent? as long as we are visiting the site? Is there a way that we can detect or monitor such activities that is running silently using our machine? Please add some important links for newbies not to be taken advantaged by those people mining remotely in websites.

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