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March 09, 2020, 12:27:13 PM
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I can’t never tell why they want to melt it at the first place.
It's straight up economics.  If a coin's face value is worth less than its melt value, there's a good chance a lot of those coins are going to make their way to metal recyclers.  That isn't the case nowadays, but it was many years ago.

And who cares if the statement in the title is true?  That's about as useful as saying "in the long run, we're all dead".  I don't even agree with it, because there are still coins and jewelry that have survived hundreds of years or more.  That's a long enough run as a coin or necklace or whatever for me.  Plus these days even junk silver coins don't get melted.  If the value of gold or silver plummets, you might see some melting, but I think those days are long gone.

The title closely resemble what’s happening in the coin market, they see the profit to melt it they would melt it, and you don’t think it’s inevitable? Metals are all scarce product, or should I call them deflationary? And the joke that they melt it really full of mocking potential, for making into metal bars, and we have this skeptics people that would love to turn all into metal bars, their life is destined to melt them all(TM)
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March 09, 2020, 12:20:27 PM
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In the end all metals get melted. None shall survived.

You're correct: when the sun will explode, everything, including all the metals, will melt.

But before that event, no, all metals will surely not get melted. That's just not possible because
1. Not all are found/mined.
2. Some people are just sentimental about some of the metals they hold.

The metal that human being could get their hand on it all get melted, yeah you can spare the one that’s not unearthed, how should I start talking about sense when alchemist can literally turn air into metal, so we will forever never possible to melt all because you can always print more metal to fix the hole.
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March 09, 2020, 12:01:50 PM
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I can’t never tell why they want to melt it at the first place.
It's straight up economics.  If a coin's face value is worth less than its melt value, there's a good chance a lot of those coins are going to make their way to metal recyclers.  That isn't the case nowadays, but it was many years ago.

And who cares if the statement in the title is true?  That's about as useful as saying "in the long run, we're all dead".  I don't even agree with it, because there are still coins and jewelry that have survived hundreds of years or more.  That's a long enough run as a coin or necklace or whatever for me.  Plus these days even junk silver coins don't get melted.  If the value of gold or silver plummets, you might see some melting, but I think those days are long gone.
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March 09, 2020, 11:32:41 AM
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In the end all metals get melted. None shall survived.

You're correct: when the sun will explode, everything, including all the metals, will melt.

But before that event, no, all metals will surely not get melted. That's just not possible because
1. Not all are found/mined.
2. Some people are just sentimental about some of the metals they hold.
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March 09, 2020, 10:56:26 AM
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“Most of the melting took place in 1979 and 1980, when silver bullion soared to ATH of $50 an ounce.”
 WOW thanks for the info, i was completly unaware.

What time is 1979 and 1980? That’s sound like dinosaur to me.
I were baffled myself, I just checked google and price was about 10% of what OP claims.

I'm not sure how to react to the fake claim or why I didn't research before making a post, I erased it anyhow.
Why I read it was $16 to $21 an ounces over kitco site, you sure about it?
Omg you right, it went very near 50$ by end of 79 and thru 80. Lol sorry.

Had no idea silver ever went that high.

I assume no body why it ever went so high?
May be a new bill passed from Congress?
May be a FUD as strong as Corona?
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March 09, 2020, 10:53:16 AM
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“Most of the melting took place in 1979 and 1980, when silver bullion soared to ATH of $50 an ounce.”
 WOW thanks for the info, i was completly unaware.

What time is 1979 and 1980? That’s sound like dinosaur to me.
I were baffled myself, I just checked google and price was about 10% of what OP claims.

I'm not sure how to react to the fake claim or why I didn't research before making a post, I erased it anyhow.
Why I read it was $16 to $21 an ounces over kitco site, you sure about it?
Omg you right, it went very near 50$ by end of 79 and thru 80. Lol sorry.

Had no idea silver ever went that high.
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March 09, 2020, 10:51:30 AM
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“Most of the melting took place in 1979 and 1980, when silver bullion soared to ATH of $50 an ounce.”
 WOW thanks for the info, i was completly unaware.

What time is 1979 and 1980? That’s sound like dinosaur to me.
I were baffled myself, I just checked google and price was about 10% of what OP claims.

I'm not sure how to react to the fake claim or why I didn't research before making a post, I erased it anyhow.
Why I read it was $16 to $21 an ounces over kitco site, you sure about it?
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March 09, 2020, 10:47:46 AM
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The situation when the cost of the metal exceeds the face value of the coin is quite frequent, and therefore many governments refuse to issue small coins, or replace them with cheaper counterparts. I know that such cases were with pennies made of stainless steel in Ukraine during EURO 2012, when some Europeans bought them with bags at face value and tried to take them away.

Please surrender your govt issued coins to the bank, it’s our IP right, and it’s protected by Federal Laws, and come with Death Penalty for disobeying order.
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March 09, 2020, 10:45:27 AM
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“Most of the melting took place in 1979 and 1980, when silver bullion soared to ATH of $50 an ounce.”
 WOW thanks for the info, i was completly unaware.

What time is 1979 and 1980? That’s sound like dinosaur to me.
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March 09, 2020, 10:42:50 AM
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The situation when the cost of the metal exceeds the face value of the coin is quite frequent, and therefore many governments refuse to issue small coins, or replace them with cheaper counterparts. I know that such cases were with pennies made of stainless steel in Ukraine during EURO 2012, when some Europeans bought them with bags at face value and tried to take them away.

You should thank them for getting rid of the garbage Rubble.

Btw coins are the most primitive method govt use to print money in the olden day, when copper is cheap and copper govt coin has 10x more purchasing power than same ounce of copper bars.
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March 09, 2020, 07:10:59 AM
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They didn’t melt them to make into jewellery, but they turn it to the bullion to make into metal bars, and what are they going to do with the metal bars is out of my mind, I can’t never tell why they want to melt it at the first place.

An example might be copper coins. In many countries you still have them and to be honest - usually, their value as of the currency is lower than of metal itself. And copper can be used in a variety of industries - from cables to cooling systems. Same might go with other metals when needed.

Of course, this would apply mainly to relatively modern coins, as old ones have historical value far exceeding the value of the metal itself.
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March 09, 2020, 06:45:44 AM
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The situation when the cost of the metal exceeds the face value of the coin is quite frequent, and therefore many governments refuse to issue small coins, or replace them with cheaper counterparts. I know that such cases were with pennies made of stainless steel in Ukraine during EURO 2012, when some Europeans bought them with bags at face value and tried to take them away.
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March 06, 2020, 08:32:43 PM
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Not when the supply is limited and we have women around  Grin

No one would ever hate a vintage gold necklace and people will continue to buy it even after we would have discovered 100 more of them.

This is marketing.

Marketing is able to go around selling a dollar thing for thousands of dollars . ( What happens with diamonds )

Metals will stay for sure . Trust me.

They didn’t melt them to make into jewellery, but they turn it to the bullion to make into metal bars, and what are they going to do with the metal bars is out of my mind, I can’t never tell why they want to melt it at the first place.
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March 06, 2020, 02:46:11 PM
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Not when the supply is limited and we have women around  Grin

No one would ever hate a vintage gold necklace and people will continue to buy it even after we would have discovered 100 more of them.

This is marketing.

Marketing is able to go around selling a dollar thing for thousands of dollars . ( What happens with diamonds )

Metals will stay for sure . Trust me.
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March 04, 2020, 04:36:28 PM
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In the end all metals get melted. None shall survived.

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“Coen estimated that of all the silver coins produced by United States mint, only about one-quarter survived the ongoing melts.”

“Any coins that wouldn’t bring 35 bucks an ounce has no option but to melt them.”

“Most of the melting took place in 1979 and 1980, when silver bullion soared to ATH of $50 an ounce.”

“Even scarcer item could be melted at a profit.”

“The value of silver has plummeted to around $5 an ounce and the melt has been reduced to a virtual standstill.”

“They(melter) destroyed a lot of our ‘seed coins’ and put a lot of coin collectors out of business.”

“That’s the way it’s with the coin market, I’m afraid.”

“Do you realise that this is going to destroy not only the present generation of collectors, but future generation as well?”

“From now on, no kid could look through his father or mother’s change and form the nucleus of a coin collection, like I did when I was a kid.”

“All the low end silver stuff got melted.”

“When silver went so high, they were worth more money dead than alive.”

“They helped us get rid of a lot of the garbage dollars.”

“I’d say we got rid of 75 percent of the cull dollars.”

“A lot of good coins undoubtedly got melted.”

“When silver hit $50 an ounce, I would say that 98 percent of the silver coins in existence were commuted to smelting houses.”

“U.S. nickel melted down is now worth more than seven cents, thanks to soaring metals prices.”

“Coin enthusiasts gather on Realcent.org converting their savings accounts into basements full of nickels.”

“Hoarders see an opportunity for arbitrage— pestering cashiers for specific change and sweet-talking bank tellers into selling them boxes from back room.”

“It’s like everyone is just giving out diamonds for free and nobody knows it.”

“The U.S. Mint diluted the composition of both the dime and the quarter, the composition change caused the value of the original coin to skyrocket: pre 1965 dimes can now sell for $3.50 each, the quarters are $8.”

“Penner believes it’s only a matter of time before the coins get debased, Turning his nickels stash into a gold mine.”

“Federal law currently prohibits melting nickels. But Treasury will eventually give in when metal values climb and put pressure on U.S. mint to lift the ban.”

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