Increasing Number of Climbers Die on Mount Everest Due to Overcrowding

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Quote from: akamit on May 28, 2019, 03:10:46 PM

In my opinion, there should be some kinda management to control such situations.

For example, a batch system.
When the first batch comes down at least to the middle part then the next batch will be released to climb. I'm not sure if it makes any sense.

That is all up the the sherpas. I met a former sherpa when I was in New Zealand. they shared with me how the politics are skewed towards greed, and it manipulates them. It's a lucrative gig, so they want to bring in as many people as they can.

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In my opinion, there should be some kinda management to control such situations.

For example, a batch system.
When the first batch comes down at least to the middle part then the next batch will be released to climb. I'm not sure if it makes any sense.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on May 28, 2019, 09:43:03 AM

Quote from: Astargath on May 28, 2019, 06:51:47 AM

It is some sort of mental illness. The need to be above others at all costs, to feel superior. Its the same mental illness that believers in ridiculous conspiracies suffer from. Flat earthers for instance are a perfect example of people trying hard to feel smarter than everyone else, to feel special.

While I agree there is certainly an element of wanting to be "the teacher" that is very malignant among "conspiracy theorists", and I think this is by design, IMO it is distinctly different in the sense that it is more based on their lack of a frame of reference for the world after their belief systems are destroyed after having to readjust them. They enter a psychological space where everything should be questioned (healthy) then simply keep drifting off into space never reintegrating their frame of reference for the world, and their belief system (unhealthy). I find the kind of knob who would line up to die on Mount Everest is the same type that would have a garage full of Lambos and wrap his face around a tree trying to impress some woman rather than trying to be "the teacher". They generally never believe in anything to begin with.

True, it is a bit different. I'm sure there is also the type of adrenaline addict among the Everest climbers. They are literally like drug addicts but for adrenaline, which is again stupid but also a mental illness in my opinion, a very serious and dangerous one. I've seen a lot of videos on youtube about people going to skyscrapers and doing back flips and all kinds of stunts on top of them with 0 safety.

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If I want a "high" that also have a chance of killing me, I'd just skyjump. Greater odds of making it back alive and if I didn't, then at least I didn't spend an enormous amount killing my self.

Quote from: UliJonHoth on May 28, 2019, 07:58:58 AM

I had no idea so many were climbing Everest until I saw the pics on the news this weekend. The average amount of time to complete the expedition is 7-9 weeks, costs @ $30-50k, and there's a 1-in-10 chance of dying on the way down. I think I'll pass...

It can get so bad that some corpses are just allowed to stay there and not retrieved. New offerings to the gods, I mean hikers, even use them as trail marks.

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well the rich need a purpose for their life, so they can show the poor to work harder so they can at least once in their life do something they do all the time.

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I saw a movie related to mountain climbing on mount everest and only realized that it is not simple to do so some people who wants fame or want to experience the near death might be doing it and they will get honour when they done it so it is not a big surprise to see more people were trying to do that.

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I think people climb on Everest for 2 reasons:
1) too much money and don’t know what to do with that
2) lack of adrenaline

There will always be people, who can risk their lives and those deaths won’t stop them. May be even more people would like to climb to the top just to realize how lucky they are.

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Quote from: Astargath on May 28, 2019, 06:51:47 AM

It is some sort of mental illness. The need to be above others at all costs, to feel superior. Its the same mental illness that believers in ridiculous conspiracies suffer from. Flat earthers for instance are a perfect example of people trying hard to feel smarter than everyone else, to feel special.

While I agree there is certainly an element of wanting to be "the teacher" that is very malignant among "conspiracy theorists", and I think this is by design, IMO it is distinctly different in the sense that it is more based on their lack of a frame of reference for the world after their belief systems are destroyed after having to readjust them. They enter a psychological space where everything should be questioned (healthy) then simply keep drifting off into space never reintegrating their frame of reference for the world, and their belief system (unhealthy). I find the kind of knob who would line up to die on Mount Everest is the same type that would have a garage full of Lambos and wrap his face around a tree trying to impress some woman rather than trying to be "the teacher". They generally never believe in anything to begin with.

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Quote from: Indamuck on May 28, 2019, 08:50:42 AM

This is mostly wealthy people since poor people can't afford to even attempt this. Let people do what they want as long as they are not harming anyone but i do agree with Techshare's sentiment. Its usually the millionaire type with fancy cars and other material items that has to prove to himself that he is king of the world because his fancy objects no longer do it.

+1 to that. It's beyond expensive to actually attempt to climb Mt.Everest. As the cost is going to be around $45,000 -- which is just below the median yearly wage in the US, meaning that someone would have to be able to use $45,000 on a trip like this and then forgo any income that they'd be missing during this time.

This would mean that you'd have to have at least 100k to blow on such a trip, source here - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/why-the-only-thing-tougher-than-climbing-mt-everest-is-raising-the-fund-for-it/articleshow/46890443.cms

Pretty crazy to be done, though I don't think we should frown upon those with the means to do it. All I want is for them to clean it up after they're done.

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This is mostly wealthy people since poor people can't afford to even attempt this. Let people do what they want as long as they are not harming anyone but i do agree with Techshare's sentiment. Its usually the millionaire type with fancy cars and other material items that has to prove to himself that he is king of the world because his fancy objects no longer do it.

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I had no idea so many were climbing Everest until I saw the pics on the news this weekend. The average amount of time to complete the expedition is 7-9 weeks, costs @ $30-50k, and there's a 1-in-10 chance of dying on the way down. I think I'll pass...

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It is some sort of mental illness. The need to be above others at all costs, to feel superior. Its the same mental illness that believers in ridiculous conspiracies suffer from. Flat earthers for instance are a perfect example of people trying hard to feel smarter than everyone else, to feel special.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-27/more-deaths-everest-climber-predicted-own-demise-due-fatal-overcrowding

I say we should increase the numbers of egotistical knobs filing like lemmings to their deaths in the vain attempt at being able to publicly fellate themselves over such a conquest. This is a wonderful metaphor for the meaninglessness of the modern lives of those "at the top" and their desperation to find a way to create any meaning for their lives at all once they have collected "all the things".

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