Topic: [INFO] Krypto Keepsafes (Read 2159 times)

You guys should leave them negative trust. You two are not alone in having been ripped off by this company. Not responding to customers, taking down their instagram (which had bought fake followers) as well as twitter as that no one can call them out publicly …they sadly are exactly who I thought they were.

They never replaced the bullshit key chips I bought, went silent… fuckin rug… hope they get hacked & get hemorrhoids!

I never got a replacement polkadot one. They were supposed to replace them. I am going to verify that but I am pretty sure I had only the first one ever sent.

I'd bet every satoshi I've ever had or will that this company is part of this.  They may be "nice" but they are shady af...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cold-storage-coins-co-scam-5351100

Did they ever make things right with that polka coin or whatever that they owed people, anyone know?  

@Haliburton

Wrote a few messages with him when they had a Twitter account. In my eyes they where friendly and tried to make good service.
They also made some NFTs.
The feedback for them was probably not what they expected and they lost faith.

edit:
https://opensea.io/collection/krypto-keepsafes-casinoseries

Things have been silient for quite a while. There hasn't been any new releases for 2023. It is likely the company will disappear soon.

Too bad, 'cuz I've bought every single chip released by them (except the Stellar version). Has anyone managed to get in touch with Mr. Hockin?

I also got mine with no issues - seems at some point they just stopped shipping though.

Also, I gave a few away, hence why I only have 8.   Again, I am not defending their actions, but rather at one time they seemed to have a fair valued chip, as I was able to pick up unloaded chips for less than $10 a piece.

I guess I got lucky, as I placed an order when they had a decent sale:



All arrived exactly as described:






I was able to locate the public address to the coins, I have never tried to load any of them though, as I was a bit unsure of the company (I have no reason to not trust them).

If anyone who tried to order is interested, I would sell a couple if someone was trying to complete a collection of all types.

These were shady from the get go.  There was like 20k thousand something followers that they had paid for after their account had been open for like 2 weeks.  If you've been on Instagram long enough it's very easy to tell when someone's bought followers (which are mostly just fake accounts).  This is a big red flag.  They did/do remind me very much of Cold Storage Coins, and I would not be shocked if that's just yet another outshoot LLC of theirs.  Maybe it's wrong of me to speculate out loud like this, but whatever...I'm normally not wrong about these things and they're not fulfilling orders now, apparently.  

Has anyone else had this issue, if so, please share here or with me privately if you'd not like to do so publicly..

Appreciate it, I'll hold off though, don't want to add value to their products in anyway lol.

Thanks though!

Good luck with the return of your money, I hope you get it back soon.
The lack of responsibility of that company is unacceptable.
I bought several games from the casino series a long time ago, if you want a game write me.

Welp, went ahead and initiated a chargeback. After waiting about 5 weeks with 3 ignored emails and an ignored phone call I think it's safe to say my items aren't going to make it past the "processing" side of things on their end. Hopefully the refund goes smoothly from here.

Buyer Beware! I guess is about the most I can say about them at this point.

There is a phone number on their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/kryptokeepsafes

Looks like their twitter and instagram accounts have been deleted

Figured I'd bump this thread so others can have some insight. Placed an order with them over a month ago at this point. Haven't received any shipping info or updates, they also haven't responded to either of the emails I sent over a week apart. Not sure if they just abandoned their site or if they're really just that slow. But I'd be hesitant to put in an order now a days. Even if they do get it shipped, it doesn't really seem like custom service is up to snuff. I'll give them another week and if I still don't hear or see anything I'm just going to initiate a charge back and call it a day.

Will post an update once I hear something or cancel the order.

Hard to blame Keepsafes for our knowledge about polkadot. But in retrospect he should have selected other format. And that is probably why he wanted to replace. We are a tough crowd to please so he probably gave up on us
If you write him on twitter he reply very fast.

The chips use substrate address and can't be funded from binance and similiar exchange.

Learn here
https://wiki.polkadot.network/docs/learn-accounts

well to me, if you cannot send to it, then it is not a valid format. and yes, I believe you were the first to point it out.

Actually the addresses are valid. Just other format than normaly used by exchanges etc. Think I was the first to point it out. I tried to fund one from exchange and got invalid address. Asked about it and learned you could fund them from a wallet you own yourself if you wanted.

But agree he talked about replacement.

Oh I got all the ones I ordered as well - the packages were crushed but I removed them from them anyways and put them in airtites - but my question is more about the statement about replacing the polkadot ones with the updated and valid ones as the ones sent have invalid addresses.

Same for me. I bought the BTC chips and they are very well done & extremely affordable. Glad to have them, but I will not load them.

Steeley

Just to balance it a bit. They have been very friendly when I bought. Given free extras, give NFT and given tips for other collectibles. As I see it the packing and chips very well made. Will I load them? Probably not. But I like them.

It is shady, among quite a few other things as noted above. Thanks for letting us know.

No response was given via DM or any other method.  I thought it was kinda shady they posted they were having a sale shortly after ignoring my question.

Was this ever answered Yoda? I see it wasn’t in the thread but perhaps you got a DM?

Has there been any pub key lists shared?  

I’ve noticed they took down their instagram page, curious as to why. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that they paid for followers (this is a massive red flag business practice for anyone who doesn’t already know that. I personally would never trust any company who does this).

The website privacy policy states they will collect and store your data on third party servers (IP/method used to visit site/name/email/Date of birth/phone #). They state it’s permanently stored until they deem it not necessary to keep any longer.  So if whomever they use to store their data is hacked, you likely become a target for crypto hacks (sim swapping comes to mind here). “ Please be aware that we may combine information we collect about you with general information or research data we receive from other trusted sources.”- https://kryptokeepsafes.com/privacy-policy/ …why?!

They state that while they don’t filter feedback/comments up front, but they reserve the right to edit feedback they deem “inappropriate”. This is another shady business practice. You should allow for all feedback and have the ability to make comments below them for rebuttal. This provides transparency.

Public keys are only available via entering the code on the back of the coin in to their website.  Relying on websites for anything related to coins has proven time and time again to be a bad idea. So if you fund a coin, lose the public key or forget to ever look it up, and their website shuts down, you can’t check the balance or sell the coin as now you have no way of knowing what’s stored on it without redeeming. 

They apparently offer a referral program but force you to sign up before being able to see how it works. Why not show the details up front to allow people to decide whether they see it as worth doing or not?

Lots of questionable stuff here IMO.

any new updates? the replacement polkadot chips?

I wanted to confirm I received my order today, I am quite happy and was able to use the 40% discount code mentioned.  Thank you!

MASSIVE SAVINGS THIS LONG WEEKEND TO MOVE THE LAST REMAINING SETS TO MAKE WAY FOR THE NEW SERIES!!!

USE weekend40 CODE IN CHECKOUT TO SAVE 40% ON ALL KEEPSAFES THIS LABOUR DAY LONG WEEKEND ENDS 15TH MARCH 2022


https://kryptokeepsafes.com

Will this be done automatically or will we need to contact you for replacements?

Yes replacements will be sent out when the new variation is ready.

What does this mean for any of us that have them already? will we be able to exchange for one that is usable?

Yes the Stellar Keepsafes was a concept coin that never went into production.

Thank you for the work to find out. Good now we have rare ones on hand

DOT gold series Keepsafes have been been discontinued as address format needs to be change to be accessible from exchnages. They will be released again at a later date.

DOT address found on https://kryptokeepsafes.com/public-keys/

I don't understand how to send to that anddress. Binance say not valid dot wallet. Did they have a fork or something like that?

hmm yea there was no stellar one when I placed my order that I saw. Nor do I see one on the site now - guess you got a special prize there!

Thank you @Keepsafes

What is the Stallar one? Upcoming?

Purchase of a NFT comes with custom signuture keepsafes sent to your door.

Purchase of a Keepsafes from the website gets you exactly that a Krypto Keepsafes

NFT only limited to signuture versions. 1 of each for casino series. 4 of each for gold series.

Got it - none of the ones I bought already have a nft

Krypto Keepsafes are limited edition crypto collectables inspired NFT's.

Each digital version of a Krypto Keepsafes comes with a similar style custom made Krypto Keepsafes individually numbered, signed by the creator and sent to your door. Use and collect in real life, hodl in your wallet, show off to your friends.

This is the genesis drop of Krypto Keepsafes NFT's.

Shipping is free and included in cost of NFT.

ok so the nfts are sold separate and do not accompany the existing physical chips - right?

https://opensea.io/collection/krypto-keepsafes-casinoseries

Which chips get the nfts?

The DIY were not available at first until the official launch. Both versions are now available with 38 full sets of the 100 Gold series remaining. NFTs have now also been minted .  

ahh yea when I looked I saw them but they were not available for sale - at least not that I could see, they were flagged like out of stock or something similar. fwiw now, if I wanted to fund them, I would most likely peel them and add my own keys now anyways.

FYI the OP is updated so if you would like to see what the DIY kits are like check it out.

Mopar - the DIY version is available to select on a dropdown menu by "version" on each token's purchase page, just above the price and add to cart button. There are "Keys Included" and "Do It Yourself" as options for the BTC and ETH chips. Hope that helps.

Geo

I bought the built ones (I wouldnt load any funds to them though) I actually have not seen where the DIY were being sold on their site.

Did you buy the built ones or the DIY?  I like the new line of alts. I already have the first edition factory built. I like the chips they are nice. I haven't funded them yet.. Definitely nice chips.

I thought all existing chips would also get a nft?

Got my other 10 today - so have 15 in total - removed them all from the original packaging and put them in airtites

They have some chips with creators signatur on. To get them you buy NFT https://opensea.io/collection/krypto-keepsafes-casinoseries and then claim the chip. You then have NFT and the "special" signatur chip.

Do they come with nfts now?

My friend @PeakDK have received his signed chips from NFT claim.

Gold series are now fully launched and ready in shop a week ahead of schedule!! Along with the genesis drop of NFTs.

https://kryptokeepsafes.com/shop/gold-series/full-gold-series/

Hope you all enjoy them!!!

thanks! ordered a set.

Full set option available!
https://kryptokeepsafes.com/shop/gold-series/full-gold-series/

that is 24/30 - the other 70 are not available until after Feb 1

I have to wait anyways - cannot afford another 250 on chips right now.

24 doge left so maybe not wait until feb if you want them

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@Keepsafes

Would it be an idea to post all public keys with chipIDs here on bitcointalk?

will probably pick up a set in Feb - they need to add an option to buy a set of all 10 instead of each one separately - save us some clicking lol

Took a set. Colorful.
https://kryptokeepsafes.com/product-category/gold-series

Original post updated today.

New chips arrived in the mail. Added the Ethereum chip pictures, still waiting on my DIY chips, will update accordingly.

Thanks to all who have contributed in this thread. I'm really happy with the chips and can't wait to see what else arrives in 2022.

Geo

received mine as well - put them in air-tites. Chips look good.

Mine waited 3-4 weeks to get out of the country / Australia.

Keepsafes sent fast but the Australia post have some lockdown I think. So they move slow.

Got mine to day. Love them.

Received an email today that they are shipped. So the bad thing about AUS post is the wait. But at least they let you know when it does process. Sorry, this is my first order from AUS so I am not used to their system.

 

Australia post is so backlogged with post at the moment that it is taking upto 2 weeks for them to even process after it is dropped off. Sorry it is ridiculously slow, but there are next to zero planes coming or going to the country at present with australia excepting noone from overseas (unless youre a celebrity.)

Promotion only ran over the boxing day sale period . You can still use BITCOINTALK promotions code in the checkout

I bought 2 casino sets from your website on Dec 17th..... without the 25% discount and without any freebies...

Why was I given shipping and tracking information but when I check the status it still says pending? Has it even been dropped off at the post office at this point? I'm not sure how AUS does things but you would think they would have received it 10 days after confirmed shipping was sent to me via email.

Thanks for the response. Ill be watching your projects. Its an exciting time to be in the physical bitcoin industry. Best of luck. D

Merry Christmas to everyone!!

KRYPTO KEEPSAFES will be participating in Boxing Day sales.
Enjoy 25% off everything plus FREE Keepsafes with 100 USD spend to all customers, until 27th December 2021!!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!! Smiley

https://kryptokeepsafes.com

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Thanks for the question .

Nothing is mass produced. All this information is contained within the mission statement.

https://kryptokeepsafes.com/krypto-keepsafes/

All series of Keepsafes are made in limited editions in the region of 100 to 200 pieces. Expect for the Casino Series of 500 pieces.

 

Opensea Krypto Keepsafes NFT & physical signature coin 😛
https://opensea.io/collection/krypto-keepsafes-collection

As a collector i view physical bitcoin in 2 ways. Mass produced cold storage wallets like ballet that are meant to be used. Or art peices like kialara that are meant to be collected, and the crypto is locked forever unless your broke and absolutely need the btc. Which are you going for? If its the latter i hope you keep the design special and the rarity low. If you do that then you will see your coins appreciate in value. If your going for quantity and usability i wish you the best of luck but their not for me. 

Please feel free to take s look the security protocols.
https://kryptokeepsafes.com/security-protocols/
There is.also a Do it yourself, for all variants, should you wish to use your own Keys.

Excuse me to,
I want just to ask

(This go generally) In the process of manufacturing of holograms, private keys.. How can we ensure/warranty the safety of the private keys (for the customers)


Again excuse me, but that is just an interrogation I didn't get response for it

Shipped very fast. But outgoing from Autralia looks very slow. Bought other coin. Was also waiting few weeks to go out.

glad to see you got yours! mine are still en route - it has been almost a month so should be soon.

After waiting long days, I finally received my complete set, they look great, a good quality-price job, good luck with your projects.
I think you should make an official thread as a seller, putting all the details, and absolute transparency.
So you can solve any doubt

Not saying to hit it with a blowtorch and expect to still have a Keepsafes after a minute. But verses other mediums such as a paper wallet or an electronic ledger in an event of a house fire due to the clay composite your Keepsafes is more likely to survive than the others. Same.goes with being submersed in water. I strongly advise against burning your house down to test it 😅

I will add customised chips to the to do list! Thanks

@Daniel
When I was scrolling through one of the pages, the durability part that said "highly resistant to any fire" caught my attention, and I'm curious to know what's the fire class rating for these beautiful chips?

A customized version would be nice

lol darn wish I had that before my order lol will it still be good for the new ones released in Jan?

Use coupon BITCOINTALK in checkout for a Christmas discount

And happy christmas all 

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Postage out of the country is extremely slow at the moment there is 2 years of Australia's closed borders to catch up on with holiday rush now on top of. i apologise for that but it's a matter out of my control.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

mine shows that the Australian post has been "preparing to dispatch" my package since 12/6/2021

so hoping to see them soon. If I recall I got one of each that was available.

I was not offended at all  I thought your post was a very good honest unbiased reveiw with the information given. I also would be very cautious when using any crypto product whether it be cold.wallets or exchanges alike. It was a reply after claiming accounts and addresses were faked that was annoying, as those comments are not true. The product is and serves as it is exactly described.

 If you would.like any information about anything at all to do with the products I am more than happy to share the information with ☺you may email me directly [email protected]

The next series will be available mid January 2022 to with consist of 10 different currencies DOT, LTC, BCH, to name a few!

Suggestions for what make next are always welcome.

I appreciate you coming here and addressing these concerns. It doesn’t seem like you took them personally which I appreciate. If you look at the pinned topics on this board you’ll see myself and Krogo have compiled a whole long list of scam physical cryptocurrency coins. So naturally, I’m very weary of any seller especially someone who know one knows anything about. You’ve helped answer some of those concerns so I appreciate that.

Hi Daniel. Welcome to the forum! This is a great place for bitcoin collectibles and bitcoin knowledge in general. I hope you become active here.

Please do not be offended by my post, it truly is meant to be informative, so I am very glad you are here to contribute. I did not mean in anyway to suggest that you have produced a fraudulent or misleading product. I am simply trying to inform newer collectors and people interested in our hobby that collectibles that come with private keys generated by others have inherent risk.  There are few makers that have stood the test of time and have demonstrated that they are safe, but even after a long time there is still risk.

I am glad you also offer a DIY version. Your chips are well made, I like the ones I have received already, and I am looking forward to the "Gold Series". Maybe you can give us updates or teasers here!

I have updated my original post to reflect your "Security Protocols" section of your website, which I did overlook initially. I will continue to update it as new products are released as well. Thank you for producing a new collectible item. I am genuinely excited for these chips and really glad you are here as well.

Geo

Thank you very much for the advice I will get to work with creating a YouTube video.

Thank you for business also, hope you enjoy them as much as I did creating them. 😀

Make a youtube saying the same and you upgrade your trust alot in my eyes. A known face is best.
I have bought 2 sets. So not alot stress in my end.

Edit : above was comment to keepsafes

geo: Great write up. Thank you.

Krypto Keepsafes: Welcome to the forum. Nice affordable collectibles. Well done. I wish you success.

I just bought a couple.

Steeley

Hello everybody!

My name is Daniel Hockin , I am the creator and manufacturer of Krypto Keepsafes Cold Storage Collectables.

First of all thank for your review and appreciate the time taken to do it.

I would to answer any concerns and also dispell the myths I have read here.

I am a registered Australian company operating out of Melbourne Australia.  The prodcut is a registered trademark mark and the company complies with all Australia's safe business practice acts and regulations.

The prodcut is in no shape, way or form misleading, false or otherwise. Company address details and all correct, our security protocols and company policy are all mentioned on the website. A Do it yourself version has also been created for those are not comfortable with being supplied their keys.

I am merely a fellow physical bitcoin collector, who appreciates digital currencies and sees a real need for a physical medium to keep continuing crypto adoption, by introducing no-coiners friends, and family to cryptocurrency.

I believe in complete transparency with everything in life. So if you have any concerns , questions or ideas about the product feel free to ask.

Thank you 😊

Awesome write up and well said. I absolutely wouldn’t trust these one bit myself. I may buy one or two just for the collectibility factor, but we’ve seen enough scams now to know if we don’t know who made them, their rough location , and how the keys were made..can’t be trusted.

Did a little research on these guys months back. No info on team, how keys are made, I believe all their website data is anonymous, and their place of business (address) seems to be fake, as well as their followers on instagram, clearly mostly bought fake account followers (11k followers in a matter of days, not a chance. Looking at the profiles that follow them it’s very easy to tell).  This is shady stuff imo.

Maybe they’ll come here and prove differently ?

thanks for the share - I also ordered one of each of their chips - mine have been stuck in shipping for a while - but glad to see that some people are getting them - you are the 2nd or 3rd I have seen post pictures.

Interesting, thanks for the share Geo 

I have recently purchased collectible coins from this company. I am in no way affiliated with them. I am not an affiliate seller and receive no compensation for this post. My chips have been purchased through the website only.  I wanted to post pictures and details about their chips for reference and/or future information.

Krypto Keepsafes is a new company out of Australia in 2021. These chips are created and manufactured by Daniel Hockin, user @Keepsafes here on the fourm. They have released a new product of loadable crypto collectibles for sale on their website. They have multiple physical items for sale and several NFTs. Currently they offer one Bitcoin themed chip and four Ethereum themed chips. Currently there are two "series", Casino and Gold, as well as NFT's available. The Gold series and future alt coin series have been mentioned, but not yet publicly released.  

All pictures below are 'clickable' for larger picture.

Casino Series chips are clay poker chip style
Come in both DIY and "Keys Included" versions of each chip
DIY = $12.06 per chip. Keys included = $15.62 per chip
Limited production of 500 per chip

Keys Included Chips:
Bitcoin- Currently 1 chip available
Non-denomination - Keys Included


Ethereum - Currently 4 chips
Non-denomination - Keys Included


0.01 ETH - Keys Included


0.1 ETH - Keys Included


1.0 ETH - Keys Included


DIY Chips:
Identical chips as the Keys Included.
Comes with 4(four) holograms identical to pre-applied holograms

Holograms:
Silver, 25 mm (1 in) round with central window 10.15 x 3.75 mm (0.4 x 0.15 in).
Top circle: outer - "First Edition; inner - "crypto concepts". Background - holographic design
Bottom circle: outer - "in crypto we trust"; inner - "Australia". Background - "Crypto Concepts" repeated
Central circle: Krypto Keepsafes circular logo. (can be seen top left of packaging and on business card).



Bitcoin- Currently 1 DIY chip available
Non-denomination - DIY


Ethereum - Currently 4 DIY chips
Non-denomination - DIY


0.01 ETH - DIY


0.1 ETH - DIY


1.0 ETH - DIY





Gold Series chips are clay poker chip style
Come in only "Keys Included" non-denomination versions of each chip, No DIY versions available currently.
Each chip = $16.31 per chip, full 10 chip set = $162.73
Limited production of 100 per chip (Fully launched January 22, 2022)

Chips available in the Gold Series:
Bitcoin Cash
Dash
Doge Coin
Ethereum Classic
Litecoin
Monero
Polkadot
Qtum
Tezos
Zilliqa

(Photos to come pending shipping arrival)


Opensea
1/1 NFT of each chip style are available for Casino Series chips
4/4 NFT of each chip style are available for Gold Series chips
Includes unlockable content. Each digital version of a Krypto Keepsafes comes with a similar style custom made Krypto Keepsafes individually numbered, signed by the creator and shipped.


No website information. Listed as "Coming Soon" on website


For the chips with keys included, each chip has a 6 digit first-bits code on the reverse which can be used to locate the full public address on the website:Public Key Lookup

Any new company that claims to provide safe and secure storage for your cryptocurrency should immediately raise concerns for the astute collector and holder. There are numerous examples of companies and makers that were initially thought to be safe, but that ultimately resulted in compromised keys. Some due to negligence, others ignorance, and still others greed and malice. The statement "not your keys, not your coins" certainly applies to these producers and any new company should be held accountable.

To date I have no reason to believe that this company is in any way creating fake, compromised, or faulty loadable collectible chips, however I personally will not use these for safe keeping or cold storage of my BTC or ETH. Krypto Keepsafes does disclose some production process on the website under "Security Protocols". Prior example of complete protocols = statement of controls. Loading of ANY (not just Krypto Keepsafes) pre-generated collectibles should be loaded with EXTREME CAUTION.

Public Test
I have loaded a non-denomination BTC casino chip with 0.0001BTC ~ $5.00 currently, from my forum address.  
This is meant to provide some public exposure for the security of these chips. While this is by no means definitive regarding security, it will demonstrate any unexpected BTC movement.

Below is the public address and the transaction to load my chip.  I will periodically monitor this chip's address and confirm it is unpeeled and unspent.

Chip: 1LvXaA
Public address: 1LvXaAQB55ZtjFyjEJXPb7XZ1XD9JZucL6
Funding txID: 4a9a21a50b10fb11c6e8afa7be2a7475c0aba8b50a75c5ced054587e021c48f7
Chip hologram picture:



Thank you for reading and participating in this thread. I hope that others will find it useful. If you have thoughts, comments, questions, concerns, please feel free to contribute. I will continue to update it as I receive new information, other chips, and products.

Geophphreigh

*updated:
December 31, 2021 - Additional chip photos added. Alt coin future products mentioned.
January 10, 2022 update - Gold Series initial information and 10 chip description added. X-series future chips added.
January 23, 2022 update - DIY chip info added.