Topic: Institutions are interested in raiding bitcoin (Read 139 times)

The fact is this is always the case and with time new institutions will keep coming, and they have moved towards bitcoin most likely this trend will continue which in turn can bring a lot of profit to the market as a whole.
While this will not have a major impact on bitcoin, at least we know that the growth and popularity of bitcoin will not be extinguished and will continue to grow over time because they have realized the many advantages that bitcoin will bring.

You know, I've heard stories of many losing players or "burned-out" ones (dropping out) at work, which essentially means "game over," and every time you hear a tale as if it's about battling some monstrous "Whale" or "Mr. Market" or "Institutions". But in reality, it's called "I lost hope and don't know how to play," and its author is "Mr. Whiner." I don't know, maybe they do have problems, but I don't. Listen, guys, to win this game, you don't need Bitcoin ETF, knowledge of mathematics, mathematical statistics, probability theory, programming, a 666 IQ trading strategy, artificial "intelligence," multi-billion capital, insider information, access to matching engines at the speed of light, leverages, working 14-hour days, or owning an exchange... all you need to win this game is hope, and to have hope, you need a preacher. Just take control of precisely 2.625 Bitcoin in the market and move it to a cold wallet. No more, no less. That's the optimal bet in this game.

Yes, it's all as simple as biblical truths. You don't even question why you are entitled to one wife. You don't think that two wives are better than one. And three wives are better than two. You live in a society where the consensus is that one wife is what you get, regardless of whether you're Jeff Bezos or a plumber. What if one (with a 50/50 division of men and women) is the optimum?

Your opinion is acceptable, but we need to stay keep aware to invest. And I think if we have a long investment plan in Bitcoin, I think it won't be a disturbance, the bull run in bitcoin is a must in 2024, but we need to stay calm and wait for the long investment.

I do really agree with your opinion of Institutions are making money, not build technology, because however, they need money to grow up their line of business, so they decided to make the decision to make money.

So, do you think that the institution come to make money? and, do you think that these institutions will have a power to play the market?

Yeah, I really agree with your opinion that they will seize the opportunity to control the institutions as an indirect control to bitcoin, but how could it be ? are this situtations will be a way to control the market too for them?

No doubt about it, I think it will be a disturbance for all of Bitcoin Investors, not only for the short-time investor, but also for the long-time investors in Bitcoin. So We need to make sure that We should be aware of this situtations, better if We need to be a long term plan investor but we need to be an early investor, before the instutions come massively to get in to Bitcoin ecosystem.

Thanks for appreciating this post @ZAINmalik75, I do agree with your opinion of will be there a bullish, but we need to worry if the Institution will be able to control or manipulating the market, it will be a terrible situations for us as a Bitcoin Investor, but if we invest bitcoin early before the instutions come massively get in to the bitcoin, we will be get a great position as an Investor.

Could you describe the detail of how could the market will be stabilized and predictable? Aren't this situtation will be a bad news that the market could be manipulated or controlled by the institutions?

Yeah, I think that's why some people agree that the institutions could manipulate or controll the Bitcoin or even other Cryptocurrency (Coins or Tokens) especially for the China government, but we don't really know the fact or the real situation if it's a hidden game or not.

I think the Institutions has no worry about the pump or dump of Bitcoin, I think they only want to make money from it, I mean they get involved in Bitcoin just to play the manipulation or control game, so they can make money from it by control or manipulate the market, even they said that they want to get into Bitcoin Ecosystem, I dont think so, they don't really want to develope or make a great grow to Bitcoin, they only want the profit. But it's only my opinion, I could be wrong. CMMIW.

I guess, it is a bull trap which many BTC holders are aware of it, that is why they are still holding their BTC because the price is planning to move to another level to make more institution show interest on BTC. BTC has displayed so many positive results that is making many institution to have interest because they know that it will improve their institution in future. Very soon, those institution don't want to have interest on BTC based on what they heard about BTC that is making them to be scared to have interest on BTC, I think they will surely change their mind when the price of BTC hit higher before the end of this year.

China government playing the hidden game in the crypto currency,if the china government had 46% in the company.So it mean they have huge potential in the decision making,they allow the people to have some investment in the cryptocurrency.Hong Kong is the key player for the Chinese government and the Chinese economy.When the bank provides exchange of fiat to crypto currency,this mean that the people of Hong Kong had the accessibility to crypto currency.

The participation of established institutions like Deutsche Bank and NASDAQ lends credibility to the discussion. The market can be stabilized and made more predictable with such participation. It lets regular people get in on the action and brings much-needed funds into the system.

We can use this as a positive learning and growth opportunity. We need to remain flexible, as the market is likely to change due to the entrance of institutional investors.

Politically, these changes indicate a growing comfort with digital currencies, which could lead to tighter controls and better safeguards for traders.

Nonetheless, vigilance is warranted. While the introduction of such institutions may cause an initial spike in the market, such expansion may not be permanent. There is a saying that goes something like, "Don't invest more than you're willing to lose."

This post is great, and you have pointed out a good question. And i think, it might be a bull trap, or maybe not. Because many big institutions even IMF has made many announcements in favor of Crypto. Which is definitely a bullish news. And all of the news that you have shared are bullish.

But wait, where is the impact they are making, they are making just slight impact on the market nothing more. What could be the reason, like are they just want to excite newbie to get into market or wanted to streamline the adoption of BTC by encouraging other people who still think of BTC and crypto as scam. I do not have exact idea.

So, it might be a bull trap, or mentioned companies might really wanted to make some legal profit by ETFs or wanted to streamline the pathway for others to adopt BTC just like i heard Indonesian are going to release there own national exchange. Such news are bullish but why BTC is not going in bull run.

I think when such news will come true like other than just announcing them, when they will be executed then we might see bull run but till then we should not blindly trust every news because when one party changed with other, such announcements are get delayed by new governments.

When the news came about institutions like Blackrock applying for ETF, I thought this will be the time when there will really be a super cycle. I could just be thinking it could happen so early and it could be this mid-2024. This is not the only news but also countries are already adopting BTC, there really is a chance of an early bull run.

If they are up to manipulating the market, will they manipulate it to go higher than usual ATH every bull season or they will be suppressing the prices? These guys don't want others to win over them.

It's a good improvement for Bitcoin as institutions join though  having a major goal of profit is quite sad. but as we all know everything that has an advantage also has a disadvantage, I can smell some disadvantage that has high effect on individuals through taxations from government to institutions and from institutions to individuals. As soon as government knows there interest in Bitcoin, as there can't control Bitcoin they will seize the opportunity to control the institutions as an indirect control to Bitcoin causing this institutions to tax individuals who use there products more.
it's vis-versa Bitcoin gets more increase, individuals get high taxations.

Whales when they are planing their games, they will not announce their games are setting up. They do it secretly and during the same period, they make us fearful. They will make us panic to sell coins at corrections, collapses and they accumulate cheap coins.

We never knows about details, who play the games, who are Bitcoin holders but with on-chain data and analysis, we can see whales' on-chain traces.

• Whale shadows
• Sometimes, Glassnode Insights has such information in their Weekly on-chain newsletter like Wallet Cohorts etc.

They can do both, building products, setting up market games, and gaining profits but most of institutional investors simply investing and manipulating the market.

Institution adoption of Bitcoin will strengthen the Bitcoin foundation.  This means Bitcoin is leaning forward to what the government considered legal because, with this centralized institution, the government will have the chance to tax its users. 

We all know that institution will never set their attention and interest on anything if they don't find profit from it and it is no different from an individual who sees Bitcoin as a profit generating venture.  I believe if the institution finds Bitcoin profitable, they will want to maintain it as long as possible so I do not think that institution just wanted to raid Bitcoin, they in for profit yes but I believe insitution will make sure that their venture is for long term.

I mean they are interested in Bitcoin since early 2017s, they say bad things in public and buy Bitcoin in private while keeping it secret. So there is no way you get to know that they have already bought what they always opposed. So once they are done buying, they start sharing news in the market that they are thinking to buy so that the price goes up and they can dump it on you. Institutions are here to make money, not build technology. Only individuals can build products.

"Just a bull trap"... Putting bitcoin in a possible "pump and dump" situation is quite unfair, a suitable guess for altcoins. Bitcoin is bigger and better.

I think institutional adoptions of bitcoin is quite a welcoming one unless in paths of proposals for regulation and attempts of market manipulation.

These adoptions would add recognition, as well as value via increase in liquidity in Bitcoin markets. However, response to Bitcoin ETFs proposals are idiosyncratic being largely interesting for bitcoin investors as it profer possible gains on investment while being quite disturbing for true bitcoiners.

Bitcoin is being invaded by institutions. Is this a sign that Bitcoin will be pumping hard or just a bull trap? This time we will discuss institutions around the world that are raiding Bitcoin Busily and want to enliven the Bitcoin ecosystem. Either just being a retailer for Bitcoin, becoming a custodian, or even issuing a Bitcoin ETF. So, Let's discuss.


Well, shocking news came from America. Because Nasdaq will provide crypto Custody services in mid-2023. Currently, the largest ones providing this service in America are Fidelity and BNY Mellon. And this is a big move for the Nasdaq. Wow, is it possible that one day the Nasdaq will become a Crypto Exchange too? Or stocks on the Nasdaq can also be issued onchain. And right after binance and SEC broke things off, BlackRock announced it would be launching a Bitcoin Spot ETF. And this decision is actually just waiting for a signature from Gary Gensler. And and a unique thing is, in a TV interview about 5 years ago, Larry Fink said there was no interest in crypto assets, he even said that crypto assets were only for money laundering. In June 2023, BlackRock proposed a Bitcoin spot ETF called iSHARES Bitcoin trust. If approved, this will be the first Bitcoin Spot ETF to be approved by the SEC. Well, not only BlackRock is proposing Bitcoin Spot ETF. But also bitwise, Wisdom 3, and Flacray. And you know what ? All about the SUE and the PROPOSING already cleared for now, right ?

The ETF market in America alone is worth more than 7 trillion USD. A giant market. Where Bitcoin's market cap is only less than 600 billion US Dollars. And BlackRock itself has assets of 9 trillion USD under its management. And while BINANCE US and coin base are being sued by the SEC. Fidelity, Schwab, Citadel created their own crypto exchange, namely EDX. In the midst of the SEC lawsuit and claims of crypto assets as securities by the SEC, it turns out that this has not dampened traditional finance's interest in entering the digital asset sector. Or is there already a scenario that way? Well, EDX was founded on a combination of several traditional firms such as Charles Schwab, Citadel securities, Fidelity digital assets, sequoia capital, paradigm, and financial firms. Another shocking info came from the IMF. This time the IMF said, the crypto ban was not the best approach. Even said that regions or countries must be able to focus on demand for digital assets and increase transparency. From the last America, the first Bitcoin leverage future ETF with BITX Ticker was approved and will be launched at CPOI. The difference, twice the leverage of the ETF future with this ETF future is in the leverage. This means that the return on investment is twice that of futures ETFs like BITO. But Bitcoin leveraged Futures ETFs also have twice as much risk as Futures ETFs.

From German Deutsche Bank, the biggest bank in Germany applied for a license as crypto custody. No kidding, this is the largest bank in Germany with total customer assets reaching 1.4 trillion US Dollars. And it is estimated that Deutsche Bank will work with Galaxy digital. While the second largest bank in Germany, DZ Bank also works with Metaco and creates a crypto custody platform for institutional investors in Germany.


After the state bank post Finance officially sold Bitcoin and crypto last April. Now XEROF, a financial institution from Switzerland, is launching a certificate in the form of Bitcoin worth 100 million US Dollars. Now based on a report from UPS, 68% of families in Switzerland will maintain their investment in crypto assets. While 27% are trying to increase their investment portion.


One of the largest banks in France, CACEIS bank obtained a license from French regulators for crypto custody services. Well, this bank is also one of the largest banks with total customer funds of 5.1 trillion USD.


Now in Hingkong, the Hong Kong government is actively trying to attract institutions to enter Hong Kong and also has ambitions to become a crypto hub in the region. Even the Hong Kong monetary authority forces 3 banks such as HSBC, Standard Carter, and Bank of China to provide services on crypto exchanges. Well, there is another Greenland financial technology application for a license in Hong Kong to trade crypto, carbon credit, and NFT. Well, Greenland financial technology This is a real estate group that is 46% owned by the Shanghai government. Hong Kong has also provided a budget of US$6.4 million for the digital asset sector booster in Hong Kong.

In Japan, Japan is pushing for regulations to lift the moratorium on trading using leverage. Well, actually Japan in 2020 was a country that allowed trading using up to 25 times leverage on digital assets. But in early 2022, Japanese regulators limited it to only two times and trading volume dropped significantly.

Good news for XRP Army friends from Singapore because ripple has obtained a license from a regulator in Singapore. With this license, Ripple can offer cross-border money transfers and digital payments in Singapore, we know that the case with the US SEC has been completed.


Well, that surprised me. When BINANCE and Coinbase were sued by the SEC, this should have been logical, friends. Institutions should be afraid. But why are institutions on the contrary, competing to apply for licenses to their respective regulators and open digital asset services? If institutions have entered, Pump should be unavoidable. Moreover, it coincides with the halving in 2024. And by chance someone asked this. If institutions are already in, it means we can only buy Bitcoin from them. Yes, actually we can also buy from peer to peer. From friends for example or from other people. But when institutions enter and the bitcoins are in Custody by them, the Bitcoins on the market automatically become scarcer. Plus because of the halving. So there is potential for the price to be more expensive because it is rarer and there are fewer in the secondary market. What do you think friends?


References :
- https://cryptopotato.com/nasdaq-to-offer-crypto-custody-services-by-mid-2023/
- https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/06/20/deutsche-bank-applies-for-digital-asset-license-in-germany-as-tradfi-pushes-further-into-crypto/
- https://www.xerof.com/news/xerof-launches-100-million-active-managed-certificate-bitcoin
- https://cryptonews.com/news/hsbc-standard-chartered-bank-of-china-pressured-by-hong-kong-embrace-crypto-exchanges-next-crypto-hub.htm
- https://cointelegraph.com/news/ripple-principle-approval-payment-institution-license-singapore
- https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/06/23/crypto-ban-may-not-be-best-approach-to-balance-risk-demand-imf/#:~:text=The%20International%20Monetary%20Fund%20said,stance%20towards%20the%20crypto%20industry.