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Last week NVIDIA sold more RTX 4070 Ti cards than all Radeon RX 7000 & Arc Alchemist combined
According to the most recent sales data from TechEpiphany, NVIDIA has sold over 500 units of GeForce RTX 4070 Ti graphics cards.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rtx-4070-ti-dominates-weekly-gpu-sales-at-german-retailer-more-cards-sold-than-rx7000-arc-combined

Intel has poor sales statistics in Germany.

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Quote from: safar1980 on February 07, 2023, 08:03:00 AM

Intel says Game On, Arc A750 GPU is now cheaper
Intel announced a price cut on their mid-range GPU to tackle GeForce RTX 3060
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-drops-the-price-of-arc-a750-gpu-to-just-249-new-driver-gets-performance-improvements

The price cut is around $30 if I read it correctly. Around 10% if we compare it to the previous price. Some reviewers said the card is competitive if you accept that you have to deal with driver issues here and there for gaming, don't know how it will compare to mining though. Not to mention AMD card at around the same price can give better performance in most scenarios. It is quite smart for them to compare to 3060 since the card is still a bit pricey in most region, including mine.

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Intel says Game On, Arc A750 GPU is now cheaper
Intel announced a price cut on their mid-range GPU to tackle GeForce RTX 3060
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-drops-the-price-of-arc-a750-gpu-to-just-249-new-driver-gets-performance-improvements

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Quote from: styleshifter on February 01, 2023, 05:06:59 AM

Quote from: FP91G on February 01, 2023, 04:41:57 AM

The big problem is that there are no miners for new algorithms yet, and on old coins this video card will lose to older generations of Nvidia and AMD. I would like to see NEXApow hashrate.

lolMiner has added basic support for Intel Arc Desktop GPUs in verison 1.62 on the following algorithms: ETC, ETC+KAS (1), Kaspa, Flux, Ergo, Beam (2) & Equihash 144/5 (2)
Fees are equal to Nvidia and AMD GPUs on the corresponding algorithms.
Tested Intel OpenCL driver versions are 22.24.23453 and 22.32.23937.

(1) Only on the 8G+ Intel GPUs: A580, A750 and A770
(2) Beam and Equihash are experimental on Intel GPUs. Also see known issues when running multiple cards.

ETC, ETC+Kaspa, Kaspa, Flux, Ergo are better to mine on AMD 5000 series video cards. For example, the RX5600 will show very good power consumption at $130. I'm not sure Intel will win this battle. If the price of these coins rises a lot, then there will be enough space for all video cards, but I do not believe in it.

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Quote from: FP91G on February 01, 2023, 04:41:57 AM

The big problem is that there are no miners for new algorithms yet, and on old coins this video card will lose to older generations of Nvidia and AMD. I would like to see NEXApow hashrate.

lolMiner has added basic support for Intel Arc Desktop GPUs in verison 1.62 on the following algorithms: ETC, ETC+KAS (1), Kaspa, Flux, Ergo, Beam (2) & Equihash 144/5 (2)
Fees are equal to Nvidia and AMD GPUs on the corresponding algorithms.
Tested Intel OpenCL driver versions are 22.24.23453 and 22.32.23937.

(1) Only on the 8G+ Intel GPUs: A580, A750 and A770
(2) Beam and Equihash are experimental on Intel GPUs. Also see known issues when running multiple cards.

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INTEL ARC A750
https://www.hashrate.no/gpus/a750

INTEL ARC A770
https://www.hashrate.no/gpus/a770

INTEL ARC A380
https://hashrate.no/gpus/a380

The big problem is that there are no miners for new algorithms yet, and on old coins this video card will lose to older generations of Nvidia and AMD. I would like to see NEXApow hashrate.

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SRBMiner Multi has just added support for Intel Arc GPUs
Check his thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61680066

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Quote from: joniboini on January 25, 2023, 09:07:56 AM

Quote from: FP91G on January 25, 2023, 05:44:32 AM

Most miners prefer AMD and Nvidia, so miner developers will write the best software for popular video cards. Recently, many new coins have been released, where Intel video cards will not show good performance in mining.Some coins can be mined on this video card, but now it is not profitable.

That is understandable. From recent threads on social media, it seems that Intel's driver is slowly improving, albeit still not on par with their competitor. It sounds like they work better with Vulkan/DX12 and re-bar enabled. Considering there have been rumors that Intel may have to kill its graphic division, I don't think it is wise to invest heavily into them if mining is what we're looking for. Not for the next few months, or years maybe.

AMD and Nvidia have released new series of video cards that are faster than Intel and have a competitive price. It will be very difficult for Intel to compete with competitors, especially when GPU mining is mostly unprofitable or brings very little profit.

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Quote from: FP91G on January 25, 2023, 05:44:32 AM

Most miners prefer AMD and Nvidia, so miner developers will write the best software for popular video cards. Recently, many new coins have been released, where Intel video cards will not show good performance in mining.Some coins can be mined on this video card, but now it is not profitable.

That is understandable. From recent threads on social media, it seems that Intel's driver is slowly improving, albeit still not on par with their competitor. It sounds like they work better with Vulkan/DX12 and re-bar enabled. Considering there have been rumors that Intel may have to kill its graphic division, I don't think it is wise to invest heavily into them if mining is what we're looking for. Not for the next few months, or years maybe.

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Quote from: joniboini on January 23, 2023, 05:53:13 AM

Quote from: FP91G on January 20, 2023, 02:48:45 AM

We have definitely not seen too many deals on Intel Arc A7 GPUs. These cards launched two months ago and have stayed at a relatively high price ever since. Intel launched two Arc A770 models, the 16GB variant launched at $349 in US and €419 in EU.

Has the driver situation changed though? I remember Gamer Nexus reviewed this card and says that the driver and feature still need more time to mature, and are not good enough for the general audience who don't want to troubleshoot if something went south.

I'd definitely give it a try if I can find it near my area, considering most Radeon and Nvidia are still way too expensive here. I'd rather buy their last gen.

Most miners prefer AMD and Nvidia, so miner developers will write the best software for popular video cards. Recently, many new coins have been released, where Intel video cards will not show good performance in mining.Some coins can be mined on this video card, but now it is not profitable.

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Quote from: FP91G on January 20, 2023, 02:48:45 AM

We have definitely not seen too many deals on Intel Arc A7 GPUs. These cards launched two months ago and have stayed at a relatively high price ever since. Intel launched two Arc A770 models, the 16GB variant launched at $349 in US and €419 in EU.

Has the driver situation changed though? I remember Gamer Nexus reviewed this card and says that the driver and feature still need more time to mature, and are not good enough for the general audience who don't want to troubleshoot if something went south.

I'd definitely give it a try if I can find it near my area, considering most Radeon and Nvidia are still way too expensive here. I'd rather buy their last gen.

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We have definitely not seen too many deals on Intel Arc A7 GPUs. These cards launched two months ago and have stayed at a relatively high price ever since. Intel launched two Arc A770 models, the 16GB variant launched at $349 in US and €419 in EU.

Nevertheless, it is good to see a 2-month-old GPU with such a discount, now 15% lower than MSRP at launch.

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-a770-16gb-gpu-drops-to-e355-in-germany-for-a-limited-time

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Quote from: sxemini on November 28, 2022, 08:38:27 AM

Quote from: igotek on November 12, 2022, 11:40:32 AM

Quote from: sxemini on November 10, 2022, 05:25:48 AM

Also an important point, if the DAG is growing, the hashrate decrease - ETHW test gave me 2mh lower hashrates with the same settings. At the moment i don´t know why (TLB maybe like Nvidia Pascal or it is a miner problem)

The hashrate decreases, if the DAG is growing. This is also for P106-100 6GB Asus Mining Edition and P106-090 6GB Manli.
I think It is not a miner problem.

As i said - a kind of TLB like the Pascal GPU´s (P106 is a Pascal GPU) Roll Eyes

GTX 1060 or analogues for mining Nvidia P106-100 with a slightly higher hashrate today are unfortunately useless in mining even with free electricity. But these were the best video cards for 5-6 years and after so many years of mining they still continue to be adequate for modern games.

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Quote from: igotek on November 12, 2022, 11:40:32 AM

Quote from: sxemini on November 10, 2022, 05:25:48 AM

Also an important point, if the DAG is growing, the hashrate decrease - ETHW test gave me 2mh lower hashrates with the same settings. At the moment i don´t know why (TLB maybe like Nvidia Pascal or it is a miner problem)

The hashrate decreases, if the DAG is growing. This is also for P106-100 6GB Asus Mining Edition and P106-090 6GB Manli.
I think It is not a miner problem.

As i said - a kind of TLB like the Pascal GPU´s (P106 is a Pascal GPU) Roll Eyes

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Quote from: sxemini on November 10, 2022, 05:25:48 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 10, 2022, 04:35:33 AM

In my city, a RX 480 8 GB costs about $80, if you buy more than 10 video cards, it's even cheaper. There are a lot of ads for the sale of old video cards. I am sure that this video card will give a profit if new coins appear, so I do not waste time selling.

Yeah maybe, but for me it is time to say good by to this good old ladies Cheesy

. They do the job very well for years. When i get around $80 - amazing, this 40% of the purchase price 5 years ago (i bought only used cards at this time).

Intel ARC A750 reported hashrates with nanominer, i let it run for some days for poolside hashrate:

ETC:
51.8Mh/s @ 182w - GPU-Z show 172w - Powerlimit set to 190w
51Mh/s @ 150w - GPU-Z show 140w - Powerlimit set to 140w
49MH/s @ 130w - GPU-Z show 120w - Powerlimit set to 120w

measured including riser with Elmorlabs PMD.
At the moment the OC is very rudimentary, but i will test a bit more the next days to increase the efficiency.
BZminer support this GPU´s, but the hashrate is very low - ETC = around 25mh@190w ERG = around 44mh@130w

Also an important point, if the DAG is growing, the hashrate decrease - ETHW test gave me 2mh lower hashrates with the same settings. At the moment i don´t know why (TLB maybe like Nvidia Pascal or it is a miner problem)

I hope other miner developer keep an eye on this cards in the future. Teamredminer or lolminer can do a better job i am sure.

Try the latest lolMiner 1.62

Added basic support for Intel Arc Desktop GPUs on the following algorithms: ETC, ETC+KAS (1), Kaspa, Flux, Ergo, Beam (2) & Equihash 144/5 (2). Fees are equal to Nvidia and AMD GPUs on the corresponding algorithms. Tested Intel OpenCL driver versions are 22.24.23453 and 22.32.23937.
https://github.com/Lolliedieb/lolMiner-releases/releases/tag/1.62
It may take more time to optimize mining software and drivers if intel wants to increase sales.

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Quote from: sxemini on November 10, 2022, 05:25:48 AM

Also an important point, if the DAG is growing, the hashrate decrease - ETHW test gave me 2mh lower hashrates with the same settings. At the moment i don´t know why (TLB maybe like Nvidia Pascal or it is a miner problem)

The hashrate decreases, if the DAG is growing. This is also for P106-100 6GB Asus Mining Edition and P106-090 6GB Manli.
I think It is not a miner problem.

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Quote from: FP91G on November 10, 2022, 04:35:33 AM

In my city, a RX 480 8 GB costs about $80, if you buy more than 10 video cards, it's even cheaper. There are a lot of ads for the sale of old video cards. I am sure that this video card will give a profit if new coins appear, so I do not waste time selling.

Yeah maybe, but for me it is time to say good by to this good old ladies Cheesy

. They do the job very well for years. When i get around $80 - amazing, this 40% of the purchase price 5 years ago (i bought only used cards at this time).

Intel ARC A750 reported hashrates with nanominer, i let it run for some days for poolside hashrate:

ETC:
51.8Mh/s @ 182w - GPU-Z show 172w - Powerlimit set to 190w
51Mh/s @ 150w - GPU-Z show 140w - Powerlimit set to 140w
49MH/s @ 130w - GPU-Z show 120w - Powerlimit set to 120w

measured including riser with Elmorlabs PMD.
At the moment the OC is very rudimentary, but i will test a bit more the next days to increase the efficiency.
BZminer support this GPU´s, but the hashrate is very low - ETC = around 25mh@190w ERG = around 44mh@130w

Also an important point, if the DAG is growing, the hashrate decrease - ETHW test gave me 2mh lower hashrates with the same settings. At the moment i don´t know why (TLB maybe like Nvidia Pascal or it is a miner problem)

I hope other miner developer keep an eye on this cards in the future. Teamredminer or lolminer can do a better job i am sure.

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Quote from: sxemini on November 09, 2022, 05:36:58 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 05:29:56 AM

Quote from: sxemini on November 09, 2022, 04:54:23 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 04:01:39 AM

Quote from: batsonxl on November 05, 2022, 03:58:52 AM

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Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate

I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)

ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W

He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...

Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.

For the first video cards, this is a very good indicator. Maybe the potential of these video cards will be revealed a little later, but today the purchase of any video cards for mining is unprofitable.
I remember the Intel Larrabee project in 2009 and 12 years later the company was able to make a decent GPU.

My A750 arrive today - i will show you my results, i think i can beat it Cheesy

. Did you tried BZminer?

It will be interesting for me to read information about your tests in mining. I don’t see the point in mining now, because of the very small profit. My graphics cards have paid for themselves several times over, so I will be waiting for new mining opportunities.
I don't sell or buy video cards now.

Sure i don´t buy new cards for all of my rigs at the moment. Only small things to play with it and to help to optimize BZminer a bit. The A750 should be good enough for 60mh, but we need more optimized miner. Most of my cards are polaris and p106, this cards paid of several times, but i sell it now slowly and next year i will begin to buy newer used cards.

In my city, a RX 480 8 GB costs about $80, if you buy more than 10 video cards, it's even cheaper. There are a lot of ads for the sale of old video cards. I am sure that this video card will give a profit if new coins appear, so I do not waste time selling.

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Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 05:29:56 AM

Quote from: sxemini on November 09, 2022, 04:54:23 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 04:01:39 AM

Quote from: batsonxl on November 05, 2022, 03:58:52 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 05:19:24 AM

Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate

I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)

ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W

He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...

Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.

For the first video cards, this is a very good indicator. Maybe the potential of these video cards will be revealed a little later, but today the purchase of any video cards for mining is unprofitable.
I remember the Intel Larrabee project in 2009 and 12 years later the company was able to make a decent GPU.

My A750 arrive today - i will show you my results, i think i can beat it Cheesy

. Did you tried BZminer?

It will be interesting for me to read information about your tests in mining. I don’t see the point in mining now, because of the very small profit. My graphics cards have paid for themselves several times over, so I will be waiting for new mining opportunities.
I don't sell or buy video cards now.

Sure i don´t buy new cards for all of my rigs at the moment. Only small things to play with it and to help to optimize BZminer a bit. The A750 should be good enough for 60mh, but we need more optimized miner. Most of my cards are polaris and p106, this cards paid of several times, but i sell it now slowly and next year i will begin to buy newer used cards.

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Quote from: sxemini on November 09, 2022, 04:54:23 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 04:01:39 AM

Quote from: batsonxl on November 05, 2022, 03:58:52 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 05:19:24 AM

Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate

I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)

ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W

He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...

Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.

For the first video cards, this is a very good indicator. Maybe the potential of these video cards will be revealed a little later, but today the purchase of any video cards for mining is unprofitable.
I remember the Intel Larrabee project in 2009 and 12 years later the company was able to make a decent GPU.

My A750 arrive today - i will show you my results, i think i can beat it Cheesy

. Did you tried BZminer?

It will be interesting for me to read information about your tests in mining. I don’t see the point in mining now, because of the very small profit. My graphics cards have paid for themselves several times over, so I will be waiting for new mining opportunities.
I don't sell or buy video cards now.

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Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 04:01:39 AM

Quote from: batsonxl on November 05, 2022, 03:58:52 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 05:19:24 AM

Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate

I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)

ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W

He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...

Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.

For the first video cards, this is a very good indicator. Maybe the potential of these video cards will be revealed a little later, but today the purchase of any video cards for mining is unprofitable.
I remember the Intel Larrabee project in 2009 and 12 years later the company was able to make a decent GPU.

My A750 arrive today - i will show you my results, i think i can beat it Cheesy

. Did you tried BZminer?

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Quote from: batsonxl on November 05, 2022, 03:58:52 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 05:19:24 AM

Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate

I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)

ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W

He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...

Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.

For the first video cards, this is a very good indicator. Maybe the potential of these video cards will be revealed a little later, but today the purchase of any video cards for mining is unprofitable.
I remember the Intel Larrabee project in 2009 and 12 years later the company was able to make a decent GPU.

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Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 05:19:24 AM

Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate

I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)

ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W

He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...

https://t.me/koliamainer/8315

Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.

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For having an idea how the ARC A750 performs have a look at Son of aTech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dfoG9x2CSg.

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Quote from: miner29 on November 02, 2022, 07:56:47 AM

Pretty sure Nanominer works on Intel gpus.

I haven't tested, but my 5600 xt is mining ethereum forks with 38-42 megahash hashrate and consumption of 82-95 watts respectively depending on memory and overclocking. These graphics cards can be bought for $200 in good condition. Therefore, for Ethereum forks, it is better not to buy new video cards.

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Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 05:19:24 AM

Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate

I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)

ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W

He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...

https://t.me/koliamainer/8315

Pretty sure Nanominer works on Intel gpus.

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Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate

I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)

ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W

He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...

https://t.me/koliamainer/8315

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It is clear that Intel chose not the best time to release video cards. If they do not make a huge effort to compete in the mining market, then their video chips will probably be used for mobile devices and laptops.

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Quote from: FP91G on July 21, 2022, 01:04:27 PM

Quote from: JayDDee on July 20, 2022, 02:00:00 PM

No miners support them yet.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-gpu-drivers-do-not-support-mining

This is not a problem for developers. They need video cards for testing and new miners will appear in a few months. They may not have time to mine Ethereum, and there may be good competition for miners for other coins. Intel also benefits from this.

The more the better in terms of price competition from which the end consumer is the winner.Even if Intel GPU-s are not as good as predicted,the fact that they will hit the market will make AMD and Nvidia give up some of their market share to Intel.They will want it back so they will start with price drops fighting Intel and we all will be happy when they do.This is a historic moment for the GPU market and can't wait to have a third player in the market,if it were 4 or more it would be even better.The 16 GB cards as top level from Intel should also be good for mining and with a bit of fine-tuning they should give us like near 60-65 Mhsh for like 135-150 Watt.

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Quote from: safar1980 on June 22, 2022, 03:49:24 PM

Intel Arc Desktop Gaming Graphics Cards Confirmed Through Latest Drivers: Alchemist Lineup To Include A310, A380, A580, A750, A770, Pro A40, Pro A50

tel's Arc Alchemist gaming graphics cards for desktop PCs have been confirmed in the latest GPU driver release. The 30.0.101.1732 driver brings new game support and optimizations for the Arc A-series mobility GPUs such ss Arc A370M & Arc A350M but it also reveals the desktop cards in their final naming scheme.

https://wccftech.com/intel-arc-a770-a750-a580-a380-a310-pro-a50-a40-alchemist-desktop-graphics-cards-confirmed/

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-arc-780-gpu-denial

Intel Denies Arc A780 GPU Ever Existed

Intel's own Ryan Shrout has come out of the gates swinging, aiming at a specific rumor that has been spreading its wings since the announcement of the company's Arc Alchemist discrete GPUs. Specifically, Shrout denied rumors of an upcoming Arc A780 graphics card. Initially reported by known leaker Moore's Law is Dead (MLID), the Arc A780 allegedly was an unannounced card that would offer better performance over Intel's confirmed top-tier discrete card, the Arc A770.

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Quote from: JayDDee on July 20, 2022, 02:00:00 PM

No miners support them yet.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-gpu-drivers-do-not-support-mining

This is not a problem for developers. They need video cards for testing and new miners will appear in a few months. They may not have time to mine Ethereum, and there may be good competition for miners for other coins. Intel also benefits from this.

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Quote from: sxemini on July 21, 2022, 04:32:12 AM

Hmm i don´t think so. XMRig will support it i think - it also support the old IGPUs, so why not the new discrete gpu driver? And by the way - mining news from a hardwaretechsite is nuts.
The A380 can be a good low power card like the good old RX550 (up to 14-15mh@35w from the wall with riser) Cheesy

- bandwidth is enough for 20mh+ on ETH/ETC.
Hope we see more support for this cards in the future.

Anyone have a shop where i can buy A380? I know only chinese, but i don´t find any chinese shop.

I would ~~assume~~hope that any miner that works on Intel iGPUs would have little difficulty. It's probably a matter of
the devs getting their hands on real HW to test and tweak.

The article suggests it's a driver issue but that doesn't seem right. Either they can run compute applications or they can't,
and they aren't much use if the can't.

I wouldn't expect great performance initially, it will take time for the drivers to mature and the miners to be optimized.
I hope they're competitive, we need more competition.

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Quote from: JayDDee on July 20, 2022, 02:00:00 PM

No miners support them yet.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-gpu-drivers-do-not-support-mining

Hmm i don´t think so. XMRig will support it i think - it also support the old IGPUs, so why not the new discrete gpu driver? And by the way - mining news from a hardwaretechsite is nuts.
The A380 can be a good low power card like the good old RX550 (up to 14-15mh@35w from the wall with riser) Cheesy

- bandwidth is enough for 20mh+ on ETH/ETC.
Hope we see more support for this cards in the future.

Anyone have a shop where i can buy A380? I know only chinese, but i don´t find any chinese shop.

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No miners support them yet.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-gpu-drivers-do-not-support-mining

FP91G

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Exclusive: Intel Arc A-Series Desktop GPU Price/Performance Positioning, TDP and Memory Configurations

Intel Arc A770 graphics card currently set to debut for under $400 USD
The flagship of Intel's planned Arc A-Series GPU lineup is the Arc A770 graphics card. It will consume 225W and should trade blows with the RTX 3060 Ti and Radeon 6650 XT while beating the RTX 3060 and Radeon 6600. Based on the slide that we obtained, it is set to debut at or under $399 USD.

https://wccftech.com/exclusive-intel-arc-a-series-desktop-gpu-price-performance-positioning-tdp-and-memory-configurations/

FP91G

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This is the perfect time to release new graphics cards

A lot of Nvidia and AMD video art is already sold out by miners, so Intel will need to make a big effort to get their video cards to be bought, instead of cheap second-hand video cards of competitors.

Outhue

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Won't be buying unless the power consumption is better than Nvidia graphic card counter parts, good hashrate at the cost of less power consumption is what will make this bear market mining fair, you don't want to be struggling with high power consumption at this time.

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Intel Arc Desktop Gaming Graphics Cards Confirmed Through Latest Drivers: Alchemist Lineup To Include A310, A380, A580, A750, A770, Pro A40, Pro A50

tel's Arc Alchemist gaming graphics cards for desktop PCs have been confirmed in the latest GPU driver release. The 30.0.101.1732 driver brings new game support and optimizations for the Arc A-series mobility GPUs such ss Arc A370M & Arc A350M but it also reveals the desktop cards in their final naming scheme.

https://wccftech.com/intel-arc-a770-a750-a580-a380-a310-pro-a50-a40-alchemist-desktop-graphics-cards-confirmed/

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We need discrete graphic cards from intel, enough of Nvidia and AMD cards only, another competitors will make getting cards easier, the team shouldn't worry about adoption I'm sure many will buy the cards and use them for gaming or mining cryptos, I hope the make this happens

fmz89

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well intel already showing some integrated gpu now days quite capable run some AAA on decent framerate,

in matter of time raja khoduri on intel implementing amd architect or something new. and to catch up current market it wont be easy need years RnD

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Quote from: jessyj48 on January 27, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

Not be able to buy they separately makes this pointless, I thought intel will build their one discrete gpu and challenge nvidia and AMD, so why the post anyways? We can't expect this gpu to be good for mining rigs since they aren't standalone, aaargghh

An interesting historical fact. Intel first entered the GPU market. Grin

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You guys might not realise this but most of the GPUs out today are actually Intel GPUs. They are not the ones we use for mining but the built in ones we use with our onboard video or with our intel CPUs. Most people, especially businesses don't need powerful GPUs so the Intel built-in graphics is sufficient.

So the fact that they are going into higher end is not surprising. I am assuming they are doing this since their market share is reduced since Apple started to make its own chips. They want to regain some of the market share back. I think it will be interesting and we will see how they will compete with Nvidia and AMD in the near future.

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Yes it's for "pre-built" systems and requires a custom / special BIOS on the motherboard.
Going to be interesting to see how long till they make it to the secondary market.
And then what will happen when people can't use them because their board does not support it.

There are some businesses that look at the parts value of PCs for internal re-use as part of the IT budget.
I can pull the 2 year old top of the line card that was in the engineering CAD PC and put it in the mid range PC of the accountant that has 4 screens so they can have multiple spreadsheets open.
I think pull the card from the accountant PC to put in a managers PC because they want something "better".

Now if they want something "better" it involves a purchase because I can't move the accountants card.

Hmmmm.

-Dave

JayDDee

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AFAIK it uses OCL but I don't known if it's compatible with AMD mining software. At a miminum I expect they
would to need to be recompiled specificaly for Xe.

Some of the previous comments aren't really usefull. It is a discrete standlone GPU. Yes, it's small and
not suitable for mining rigs but it's only part of a much bigger plan.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15119/intels-xe-for-hpc-ponte-vecchio-with-chiplets-emib-and-foveros-on-7nm-coming-2021

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Thanks for sharing but I don't see the need since we can't use this gpu to mine coins, integrated GPUs are always not powerful enough for mining purposes, but I do hope that one day intel will join the gpu race too, three gpu companies will be fun

miner29

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Since they will be in prebuilt only at first dont expect great things out of them. But maybe in a few years Intel will actually have a gpu even worth talking about.

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Quote from: safar1980 on January 27, 2021, 08:26:53 AM

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-partners-up-with-oems-to-offer-its-first-iris-xe-discrete-graphics-cards-for-desktops

"A big milestone for Intel.

Intel today announced it is entering the discrete GPU market after partnering up with ASUS and other OEMs. First graphics cards featuring Intel GPU will be for mainstream users and small businesses. Those graphics cards will be used in pre-built systems for now, which means they cannot be bought separately."

When will the time come when we will be able to mine on Intel graphics cards?

This info is not from today, they announced it around a year ago. But it is nice to see another gpu manufacturer Grin

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Not be able to buy they separately makes this pointless, I thought intel will build their one discrete gpu and challenge nvidia and AMD, so why the post anyways? We can't expect this gpu to be good for mining rigs since they aren't standalone, aaargghh

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https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-partners-up-with-oems-to-offer-its-first-iris-xe-discrete-graphics-cards-for-desktops

"A big milestone for Intel.

Intel today announced it is entering the discrete GPU market after partnering up with ASUS and other OEMs. First graphics cards featuring Intel GPU will be for mainstream users and small businesses. Those graphics cards will be used in pre-built systems for now, which means they cannot be bought separately."

When will the time come when we will be able to mine on Intel graphics cards?

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