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Topic: Introducing Cryptour - Fun Bitcoin Tournament | No signups req | Provably fair (Read 5445 times)

newbie
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@Cryptour you should reduce the number of winners and post in the advance distribution of prizes in the case of 50,100,200 etc. entries.
@Cryptour subscribers waiting for freeroll  Grin

Thanks for your feedback joksim299. They are well noted and will be made available when we are back from our short hiatus.

How do you find Crpytour so far?

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I like simplicity of the game and way how it works,but I had no luck in previous tournaments.

Thanks for your feedback. Best of luck in our future tourneys!

We will be back soon with more cool feature and exciting tourneys.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
@Cryptour you should reduce the number of winners and post in the advance distribution of prizes in the case of 50,100,200 etc. entries.
@Cryptour subscribers waiting for freeroll  Grin

Thanks for your feedback joksim299. They are well noted and will be made available when we are back from our short hiatus.

How do you find Crpytour so far?

.

I like simplicity of the game and way how it works,but I had no luck in previous tournaments.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
@Cryptour you should reduce the number of winners and post in the advance distribution of prizes in the case of 50,100,200 etc. entries.
@Cryptour subscribers waiting for freeroll  Grin

Thanks for your feedback joksim299. They are well noted and will be made available when we are back from our short hiatus.

How do you find Crpytour so far?

.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
is this still goin on? but why theres no new tournament coming up

Yeah, it is. Cheesy

Admin is probably working on adding super cool features and ideas before launching another set of tournaments Wink

Yup, you are right. We are waiting for the conclusion of this major tournament to roll out more great new features.

All winners and prizes will be paid and ledgered on blockchain.

If you haven't already heard, we are up to 20 winners now!
Good luck!
Is closing right? Or still running lol. Why i still not get any payment yet.
Just curious Smiley

We currently have a 6-hour payment processing policy.

All the payments have been processed now. https://blockchain.info/tx/7f5708ae35e551569abc948ebf6d65e8ad7d0669fc3e05c7dd271940284a5e1f

Congratulations to all the winners.

Cryptou will now go into a short hiatus to fix a certain bugs and adding a few features when we are back. We should be back in a few days.

Do subscribe to our mailing list at the bottom of https://cryptour.com/ to get yourself updated when we are back. You might also score yourself some freeroll entry tickets (if you have no clue what freeroll is, it is basically tournament with free entries but with real prizes!)

Thanks for all your interest and supporting during the initial first few days of our beta test period.

I will still remain on the forum to answer any questions, suggestions and any potential partnership requests.

Thanks again. Stay tuned!
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
@Cryptour you should reduce the number of winners and post in the advance distribution of prizes in the case of 50,100,200 etc. entries.
@Cryptour subscribers waiting for freeroll  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
❃ CyberNick ❃
is this still goin on? but why theres no new tournament coming up

Yeah, it is. Cheesy

Admin is probably working on adding super cool features and ideas before launching another set of tournaments Wink

Yup, you are right. We are waiting for the conclusion of this major tournament to roll out more great new features.

All winners and prizes will be paid and ledgered on blockchain.

If you haven't already heard, we are up to 20 winners now!
Good luck!
Is closing right? Or still running lol. Why i still not get any payment yet.
Just curious Smiley
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
is this still goin on? but why theres no new tournament coming up

Yeah, it is. Cheesy

Admin is probably working on adding super cool features and ideas before launching another set of tournaments Wink

Yup, you are right. We are waiting for the conclusion of this major tournament to roll out more great new features.

All winners and prizes will be paid and ledgered on blockchain.

If you haven't already heard, we are up to 20 winners now!
Good luck!
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Final chance to get your entries in!

Major tournament with BTC 0.5 Guaranteed is closing this very hour, in 4 blocks.

We are up to 20 paid winners now!

Good luck!
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
is this still goin on? but why theres no new tournament coming up

Yeah, it is. Cheesy

Admin is probably working on adding super cool features and ideas before launching another set of tournaments Wink
hopefully another set tournaments with more big prize  Grin
im standing from no1 and drop to no5 now on currently tournaments. Sad sad ahhh..

hehe sorry Grin
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
❃ CyberNick ❃
is this still goin on? but why theres no new tournament coming up

Yeah, it is. Cheesy

Admin is probably working on adding super cool features and ideas before launching another set of tournaments Wink
hopefully another set tournaments with more big prize  Grin
im standing from no1 and drop to no5 now on currently tournaments. Sad sad ahhh..
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
is this still goin on? but why theres no new tournament coming up

Yeah, it is. Cheesy

Admin is probably working on adding super cool features and ideas before launching another set of tournaments Wink
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
❃ CyberNick ❃
is this still goin on? but why theres no new tournament coming up
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Congratulations to the 8 winners of our last guaranteed tournament - The '000s.

Next up, our biggest tournament to date:

Major: 0.5 Gtd

  • BTC0.5 prize pool guaranteed!
  • Entry costs only BTC0.006!
  • All entries, prizes scores are 100% provably fair. Check out our closed tournaments.

If you have not yet tried Cryptour out, try it out. Big prize pool with only a small entry fee.
I'd be happy to help if you have any questions.


How many MAX winner in here actually? Is it the more participants the more winner?

Number of winners increase along with more entries.

Thanks joksim299

Yup. As the number of entries increase, the number of winners increase.
Winners are around 20-30% of entries.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Congratulations to the 8 winners of our last guaranteed tournament - The '000s.

Next up, our biggest tournament to date:

Major: 0.5 Gtd

  • BTC0.5 prize pool guaranteed!
  • Entry costs only BTC0.006!
  • All entries, prizes scores are 100% provably fair. Check out our closed tournaments.

If you have not yet tried Cryptour out, try it out. Big prize pool with only a small entry fee.
I'd be happy to help if you have any questions.


How many MAX winner in here actually? Is it the more participants the more winner?

Number of winners increase along with more entries.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
❃ CyberNick ❃
Congratulations to the 8 winners of our last guaranteed tournament - The '000s.

Next up, our biggest tournament to date:

Major: 0.5 Gtd

  • BTC0.5 prize pool guaranteed!
  • Entry costs only BTC0.006!
  • All entries, prizes scores are 100% provably fair. Check out our closed tournaments.

If you have not yet tried Cryptour out, try it out. Big prize pool with only a small entry fee.
I'd be happy to help if you have any questions.


How many MAX winner in here actually? Is it the more participants the more winner?
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Congratulations to the 8 winners of our last guaranteed tournament - The '000s.

Next up, our biggest tournament to date:

Major: 0.5 Gtd

  • BTC0.5 prize pool guaranteed!
  • Entry costs only BTC0.006!
  • All entries, prizes scores are 100% provably fair. Check out our closed tournaments.

If you have not yet tried Cryptour out, try it out. Big prize pool with only a small entry fee.
I'd be happy to help if you have any questions.

newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
BTC0.12 Guaranteed Tournament closing today!

- More than 5 winners will be rewarded
- Takes only BTC0.002 to enter!
- Very good overlay and definitely +EV to enter.
- ENTER THIS TOURNAMENT

Good luck!
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Upcoming tourneys, 2 with huge guarantees and overlays!
2 tournaments closing in about 24 hours from now.

Try out Cryptour for a tiny entry fee and get a chance to win huge prizes.

  • 150k satoshis
    - only 1 entry so far! Each ticket only costs BTC0.0015
  • The '000s Guaranteed Tournament
    - Stand a chance to win upward of BTC0.12 with only BTC0.002 per ticket!
  • Major: 0.5 Gtd BTC0.5 Guaranteed Tournament with only BTC0.006 entry fee!
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Next tournament, with only BTC0.0003 entry fee is closing in about 7 hours from now.

It's a great opportunity to try out Cryptour with a small roll. We only have 1 entry now, should be quite an easy beat to get a good return.

Good luck!
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit

Thanks. Didn't know a small error changes so many things.  Shocked

#ffffffff is 68719476735. I am pretty lucky, lol. Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
That was me.  Grin

9 winners now.



Edit:
Verifying my ticket.
SHA256(f807499f5b597e7d100bce905ef5257e25309770b599c275159d2fc6de93bead28279234791ESmdyVC14xpytDQYBKw54u8b4EPSjL5H3)
= 23d9d881d3f534d1cf07c14da9a598ffdf1648f8817ef0439d0c712fe8a8cdaa . Substring : ffdf1648f8817ef0439d0c712fe8a8cdaa  => Decimal value : 87068537118452384981019157031072802852266 Cheesy



Provably fair system Verified by ndnhc.  Cool

Congrats on your 1st place entry. Hope it keeps its position.

The substring is 32nd to 41st characters, hence for yours fdf1648f8. Still some space to squeeze in to the top position. Smiley


fdf1648f8 is indeed 68167289080 in decimal. Smiley
https://www.google.com/search?q=0xfdf1648f8+in+decimal
https://cryptour.com/t/1ESmdyVC14xpytDQYBKw54u8b4EPSjL5H3

newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
Confirming receipt of the prizes. Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Congratulations to the 10 winners of our Pilot Tournament.

https://i.imgur.com/7HB98hc.jpg

It was a fun one. Winners should have received their prizes (tx)

On to the next ones:
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Why is the main 0.5BTC guaranteed tournament postponed?

We shifted it back when there were 0 entries to allow us more time to campaign for it.

legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Why is the main 0.5BTC guaranteed tournament postponed?
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0

It's not a typo, in common programming language, esp. for .substring(), 1st character is at position 0. 32nd character is at position 31 (starting from 0). Even though the doc is using psuedo-code, we are using JavaScript as the base.


lol. sorry. Grin

I don't have much idea about javascript. But in Excel, entering =mid(31,40) gets me the substring from the 31st place.

Ooops. Oh well, Microsoft...

legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit

It's not a typo, in common programming language, esp. for .substring(), 1st character is at position 0. 32nd character is at position 31 (starting from 0). Even though the doc is using psuedo-code, we are using JavaScript as the base.


lol. sorry. Grin

I don't have much idea about javascript. But in Excel, entering =mid(31,40) gets me the substring from the 31st place.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Congrats on your 1st place entry. Hope it keeps its position.

The substring is 32nd to 41st characters, hence for yours fdf1648f8. Still some space to squeeze in to the top position. Smiley


32nd? Dang! Oh, it is. Can you fix this typo:

Quote
// Concatenate txid, nonce and tournament address
// txid and tournament address are hex strings while nonce is string in integer
composite = txid.toString() + nonce of first confirming block + tournament address;

// SHA-256 it
hash = sha256(composite);

// Get a substring of hash at 32nd to 41st position
// with string length of 9 characters
score_in_hex = hash.substring(31, 40);

// Convert it into decimal
score = parseInt(score_in_hex, 16);

It's not a typo, in common programming language, esp. for .substring(), 1st character is at position 0. 32nd character is at position 31 (starting from 0). Even though the doc is using psuedo-code, we are using JavaScript as the base.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
Congrats on your 1st place entry. Hope it keeps its position.

The substring is 32nd to 41st characters, hence for yours fdf1648f8. Still some space to squeeze in to the top position. Smiley


32nd? Dang! Oh, it is. Can you fix this typo:

Quote
// Concatenate txid, nonce and tournament address
// txid and tournament address are hex strings while nonce is string in integer
composite = txid.toString() + nonce of first confirming block + tournament address;

// SHA-256 it
hash = sha256(composite);

// Get a substring of hash at 32nd to 41st position
// with string length of 9 characters
score_in_hex = hash.substring(31, 40);

// Convert it into decimal
score = parseInt(score_in_hex, 16);


Edit: I checked. Order is correct. Funny I took 32 for almost all the cases.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
That was me.  Grin

9 winners now.



Edit:
Verifying my ticket.
SHA256(f807499f5b597e7d100bce905ef5257e25309770b599c275159d2fc6de93bead28279234791ESmdyVC14xpytDQYBKw54u8b4EPSjL5H3)
= 23d9d881d3f534d1cf07c14da9a598ffdf1648f8817ef0439d0c712fe8a8cdaa . Substring : ffdf1648f8817ef0439d0c712fe8a8cdaa  => Decimal value : 87068537118452384981019157031072802852266 Cheesy



Provably fair system Verified by ndnhc.  Cool

Congrats on your 1st place entry. Hope it keeps its position.

The substring is 32nd to 41st characters, hence for yours fdf1648f8. Still some space to squeeze in to the top position. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1001
Yeah provably fair system is working fine now, nice that you get rid of the salt
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
Anyhow lets say if my position is in winning stage, and then alot entries coming and my position drop out..
Is it possible that entry will back to winning place again if the number of winners increases?

Yes, that is a valid possibility.
If the new entries are mostly scoring lower than yours.


Alright thanks and understood all of it.. because my position just gone.. and check its at no6.. and just checked again. Become no7. Eww its so sad.. too early for celebrating no5 just now.

Hey, you got company. Smiley
I am fourth. from second.  Cool

...and #1 on the 000 tourney.

Once you get a super high number I think it would be really hard to defeat.

The latest confirmed block (375 464) just just pushed everyone down by 2 spots!


That was me.  Grin

9 winners now.



Edit:
Verifying my ticket.
SHA256(f807499f5b597e7d100bce905ef5257e25309770b599c275159d2fc6de93bead28279234791ESmdyVC14xpytDQYBKw54u8b4EPSjL5H3)
= 23d9d881d3f534d1cf07c14da9a598ffdf1648f8817ef0439d0c712fe8a8cdaa . Substring : ffdf1648f8817ef0439d0c712fe8a8cdaa  => Decimal value : 87068537118452384981019157031072802852266 Cheesy



Provably fair system Verified by ndnhc.  Cool
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Anyhow lets say if my position is in winning stage, and then alot entries coming and my position drop out..
Is it possible that entry will back to winning place again if the number of winners increases?

Yes, that is a valid possibility.
If the new entries are mostly scoring lower than yours.


Alright thanks and understood all of it.. because my position just gone.. and check its at no6.. and just checked again. Become no7. Eww its so sad.. too early for celebrating no5 just now.

Hey, you got company. Smiley
I am fourth. from second.  Cool

...and #1 on the 000 tourney.

Once you get a super high number I think it would be really hard to defeat.

The latest confirmed block (375 464) just just pushed everyone down by 2 spots!
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Can I send one tx for multiple entries?

Not at the moment though because of the txid.

But it's a feature that we should look at. We shall add support for this with txout index as another scoring factor.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
Can I send one tx for multiple entries?
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
Anyhow lets say if my position is in winning stage, and then alot entries coming and my position drop out..
Is it possible that entry will back to winning place again if the number of winners increases?

Yes, that is a valid possibility.
If the new entries are mostly scoring lower than yours.


Alright thanks and understood all of it.. because my position just gone.. and check its at no6.. and just checked again. Become no7. Eww its so sad.. too early for celebrating no5 just now.

Hey, you got company. Smiley
I am fourth. from second.  Cool

...and #1 on the 000 tourney.

Once you get a super high number I think it would be really hard to defeat.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
❃ CyberNick ❃
Anyhow lets say if my position is in winning stage, and then alot entries coming and my position drop out..
Is it possible that entry will back to winning place again if the number of winners increases?

Yes, that is a valid possibility.
If the new entries are mostly scoring lower than yours.


Alright thanks and understood all of it.. because my position just gone.. and check its at no6.. and just checked again. Become no7. Eww its so sad.. too early for celebrating no5 just now.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
You have eyes but can see Mt. Tai?!
Didn't get much of it, but gonna try anyway, lets see if I can beat Mr. Hobbit

Mr. Hobbit is now 3rd. Still with just one ticket that is 9x prize. Grin

Edit: Almost 9x.



Just reserved a seat in the 000's tourney.  Cool
Awh crap, I'm the last guy.   Cry
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
Didn't get much of it, but gonna try anyway, lets see if I can beat Mr. Hobbit

Mr. Hobbit is now 3rd. Still with just one ticket that is 9x prize. Grin

Edit: Almost 9x.



Just reserved a seat in the 000's tourney.  Cool
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Our first tourney is closing in exactly 20 blocks from now.

Hurry if you want to get your entries in. Still plenty of room for overlay.

Also, we have just added a couple more tournaments to get things going, including yet another guaranteed tournament: The '000s to celebrate the 376k-th block.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Anyhow lets say if my position is in winning stage, and then alot entries coming and my position drop out..
Is it possible that entry will back to winning place again if the number of winners increases?

Yes, that is a valid possibility.
If the new entries are mostly scoring lower than yours.

sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
❃ CyberNick ❃
Still haven't understood it so don't take my word for it, but I guess that depends on luck and number of entries you make.

Luck, yes.

Depends on number of entries: no. Each of the entries have the same winning chance.

All will be clearer once we have a closed tournament.

Tip: if your entry just barely drops out of the winning range, also known as bubble in poker term, make a few more entries so that the number of winners increases.


Ahh really luck hahaha
Anyhow lets say if my position is in winning stage, and then alot entries coming and my position drop out..
Is it possible that entry will back to winning place again if the number of winners increases?
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Still haven't understood it so don't take my word for it, but I guess that depends on luck and number of entries you make.

Luck, yes.

Depends on number of entries: no. Each of the entries have the same winning chance.

All will be clearer once we have a closed tournament.

Tip: if your entry just barely drops out of the winning range, also known as bubble in poker term, make a few more entries so that the number of winners increases.

sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
❃ CyberNick ❃
ive got no5 lol that far but not bad 0.003 become 0.015  Grin.
is that our own transaction id? i thought payout has been made..


That is your entry txid.

Payouts are only made once tournament closes. The first one will close when block height is 375 480, about 4 hours from now. Smiley

Stay on 5th and you'll get paid. Smiley
But how can we secure our winning place? Will it be overtaken?
Still haven't understood it so don't take my word for it, but I guess that depends on luck and number of entries you make.
Ohhh but if depend on luck.. so i guess to early to happy  when saw our txid in winning list Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
You have eyes but can see Mt. Tai?!
ive got no5 lol that far but not bad 0.003 become 0.015  Grin.
is that our own transaction id? i thought payout has been made..


That is your entry txid.

Payouts are only made once tournament closes. The first one will close when block height is 375 480, about 4 hours from now. Smiley

Stay on 5th and you'll get paid. Smiley
But how can we secure our winning place? Will it be overtaken?
Still haven't understood it so don't take my word for it, but I guess that depends on luck and number of entries you make.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
❃ CyberNick ❃
ive got no5 lol that far but not bad 0.003 become 0.015  Grin.
is that our own transaction id? i thought payout has been made..


That is your entry txid.

Payouts are only made once tournament closes. The first one will close when block height is 375 480, about 4 hours from now. Smiley

Stay on 5th and you'll get paid. Smiley
But how can we secure our winning place? Will it be overtaken?
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
ive got no5 lol that far but not bad 0.003 become 0.015  Grin.
is that our own transaction id? i thought payout has been made..


That is your entry txid.

Payouts are only made once tournament closes. The first one will close when block height is 375 480, about 4 hours from now. Smiley

Stay on 5th and you'll get paid. Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
❃ CyberNick ❃
ive got no5 lol that far but not bad 0.003 become 0.015  Grin.
is that our own transaction id? i thought payout has been made..
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Didn't get much of it, but gonna try anyway, lets see if I can beat Mr. Hobbit

Good luck!

You'll get it once you try it. It's actually much simpler than what the explanation makes it to be. Smiley
hero member
Activity: 532
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You have eyes but can see Mt. Tai?!
Didn't get much of it, but gonna try anyway, lets see if I can beat Mr. Hobbit
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
According to what I've understood it is a bit like ponzi right?

Nope. The placings are not who gets in first, but ranking based on entries' scores, which are independently provably fair.

Give it a try. Smiley
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
I am second. he he Grin

Good for you ndnhc!

Go go go! Only about 40 blocks to go!
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
According to what I've understood it is a bit like ponzi right?

It is a lottery.  Roll Eyes

You get in first, you get in last, nothing changes (I bought the third last ticket or something, and I am second, lol Got lucky.). More like a poker tournament without playing poker. And provably fair too.
hero member
Activity: 493
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Sarthak's a dumb girl
According to what I've understood it is a bit like ponzi right?
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
To make the game more fast-paced and exciting, we have lowered the confirmation requirement to just ONE (1)!

This means you can check your standings 1 block after your made your entry, provided your transaction includes sufficient fees.

Do not forget our PILOT TOURNEY with 0.15 BTC Gtd
  • Closes when Bitcoin block height hits 375 480. (ETA 9 hours)
  • Entries: 14 at the moment with 4 winners
  • Entry fee: only BTC 0.003 to enter
  • Guaranteed prize pool BTC 0.150 (Overlay!)

Closing soon! Good luck!
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Pilot tourney closing soon (< 10 hours at this time of post).

So far we have only got 13 entries, 4 winners, this means huge overlay!

Hope to get more entries soon. You might want to get your entries in fast so you can see where they stand and if you need to improve your standings before tournament closes.

PILOT TOURNEY with 0.15 BTC Gtd
  • Closes when Bitcoin block height hits 375 480.
  • Entry: only BTC 0.003 to enter
  • Guaranteed prize pool BTC 0.150 (Overlay!)

Good luck!
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0

I understand the point, choosing result this way make this game true tournament instead of making it lottery game.
Thanks to @ndnhc for suggestions and you for implementation. Now we have no doubt that results are not manipulated and game is now fully transparent.


Hoping it would be a fun, exciting and fair platform.

Moving ahead we hope to open up the platform to allow anyone to host tournaments and not only us.

Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
New provably fair method can ruin fun because we are able to calculate the result for ourselves and the other players before the tournament concludes.
Instead of using the nonce of confirming block I suggest using nonce of concluding block.

That was originally suggested by ndnhc as well.

By using nonce of confirming block, it gives more action, as you know the current standings right after your tx is confirmed, rather than just waiting until tournament concludes.

This hopefully creates more action and excitement for the tournaments and the players.





I understand the point, choosing result this way make this game true tournament instead of making it lottery game.
Thanks to @ndnhc for suggestions and you for implementation. Now we have no doubt that results are not manipulated and game is now fully transparent.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
New provably fair method can ruin fun because we are able to calculate the result for ourselves and the other players before the tournament concludes.
Instead of using the nonce of confirming block I suggest using nonce of concluding block.

That was originally suggested by ndnhc as well.

By using nonce of confirming block, it gives more action, as you know the current standings right after your tx is confirmed, rather than just waiting until tournament concludes.

This hopefully creates more action and excitement for the tournaments and the players.



legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
New provably fair method can ruin fun because we are able to calculate the result for ourselves and the other players before the tournament concludes.
Instead of using the nonce of confirming block I suggest using nonce of concluding block.
I like playing this type of the game with suspense.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
Change in score calculation

Provably fair algorithm has been updated for all ongoing Cryptour tournaments.

Thanks to suggestions from ndnhc.

Not only is it now less confusing, there is also now lack of obscured information that only the operator knows.

Factors for score calculation are now:
  • Transaction ID (txid) of the transaction
  • First confirming block of the transaction
  • nonce of the first confirming block
  • Tournament address

Refer to https://cryptour.com/provably-fair for more info.

With this change, players are also able to find out if they win before tournament concludes. Winning entries are indicated with a check mark with green background (See Pilot tournament for example).

Payouts will be made once tournament ends (closing block is reached).

A word of advice: if your entry is a winning one, do check from time to time before tournament closes to ensure that it is not overtaken!

All existing entries are now updated successfully with the new scoring system with no issues on integrity.

Good luck!

Great improvement. Cheesy

I'm sure you are going to get a lot of players Smiley
newbie
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Change in score calculation

Provably fair algorithm has been updated for all ongoing Cryptour tournaments.

Thanks to suggestions from ndnhc.

Not only is it now less confusing, there is also now lack of obscured information that only the operator knows.

Factors for score calculation are now:
  • Transaction ID (txid) of the transaction
  • First confirming block of the transaction
  • nonce of the first confirming block
  • Tournament address

Refer to https://cryptour.com/provably-fair for more info.

With this change, players are also able to find out if they win before tournament concludes. Winning entries are indicated with a check mark with green background (See Pilot tournament for example).

Payouts will be made once tournament ends (closing block is reached).

A word of advice: if your entry is a winning one, do check from time to time before tournament closes to ensure that it is not overtaken!

All existing entries are now updated successfully with the new scoring system with no issues on integrity.

Good luck!
newbie
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So i just sent payment to this tournament. But how can i know im already accepted in there? Cant see my own address.
Edit: i visit again ur website.. and its says too many direct loop. Undecided

Can you check again? We deployed some fixes just now.

Please let me know if you still unable to find your entry. It should be reflected in near real time.
Note that we do not have auto refresh yet so you will need to refresh the page to see it.
sr. member
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So i just sent payment to this tournament. But how can i know im already accepted in there? Cant see my own address.
Edit: i visit again ur website.. and its says too many direct loop. Undecided
hero member
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So I just enter the tournament by paying and wait for the block and luck is the point of this game or I need to do something when the block is near? The how to play page need better explanation there I think

You are right, sir. You just pay the tournament entry fee and wait until the tournament concludes.

No further actions needed.

I guess maybe we need some demo at "How to play" section. Thanks and good luck!

okay thanks for the explanation. I think the demo how to play will be good or something like put picture illustration there. I will be joining this , still many block to go , more than 180 block to go now and still more than 24 hour
newbie
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So I just enter the tournament by paying and wait for the block and luck is the point of this game or I need to do something when the block is near? The how to play page need better explanation there I think

You are right, sir. You just pay the tournament entry fee and wait until the tournament concludes.

No further actions needed.

I guess maybe we need some demo at "How to play" section. Thanks and good luck!
hero member
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I dont get this game really, can you please explain this better? I check the how to play but still still dont understand. I see the first GTD 3 entries 1 paid? is this mean that the other 2 dont pay but have entry to the tournament or what?

Rephrasing it, 3 entries at the moment and 1 winner.

(I had the confusion at first too. Paid means the number of people who will be paid the prize)

So I just enter the tournament by paying and wait for the block and luck is the point of this game or I need to do something when the block is near? The how to play page need better explanation there I think
newbie
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I dont get this game really, can you please explain this better? I check the how to play but still still dont understand.

Basically you make a transaction to a tournament's address.
Once the tournament closes, the winners will be paid a share of the prize pool.
About 25-30% of the entries win.

I see the first GTD 3 entries 1 paid? is this mean that the other 2 dont pay but have entry to the tournament or what?

Sorry about that.
It actually means 3 total entries so far (all of them paid to enter), but when the tournament closes, 1 will win.

Need to improve on the term a little.

How about 3 entries 1 winner?
legendary
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New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
I dont get this game really, can you please explain this better? I check the how to play but still still dont understand. I see the first GTD 3 entries 1 paid? is this mean that the other 2 dont pay but have entry to the tournament or what?

Rephrasing it, 3 entries at the moment and 1 winner.

(I had the confusion at first too. Paid means the number of people who will be paid the prize)
newbie
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Ok, I might sound really newbish here because everyone is saying these terms interchangeably and I have no idea what they mean... what is "txid" and "salt"?

txid is transaction (tx) identifier (id).

For instance https://blockchain.info/tx/454a97e0951759fb3c570984c9c7e327911f9718e0a393fdb603e8f22e24e8c8
The long random number after /tx/ is txid.

salt is simply a random secret string that is assigned to a tournament.

txid and salt are passed through a provably fair algorithm (think of it as computational process) to turn each entries into scores that are then used to rank the entries.

Hopefully this helps.

Thanks for the feedback from ndnhc, we are actually doing away with salt as will be replacing it with nonce of closing block, which functions exactly the same as salt in my earlier description – simply as a secret string.

By switching it to nonce, it further strengthens the fairness of the site and ensure that everyone can independently validate that we are running the tournaments fairly.
hero member
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I dont get this game really, can you please explain this better? I check the how to play but still still dont understand. I see the first GTD 3 entries 1 paid? is this mean that the other 2 dont pay but have entry to the tournament or what?
legendary
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New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
Ok, I might sound really newbish here because everyone is saying these terms interchangeably and I have no idea what they mean... what is "txid" and "salt"?

Txid is transaction id. In this case, the transaction id generated when you send Bitcoins to the address.
Example: 29ff5c0a0fc850df4c89fe2157f26b31fb900a0e3770b8753b7520af2bfebd8e
refer: https://blockchain.info/tx/29ff5c0a0fc850df4c89fe2157f26b31fb900a0e3770b8753b7520af2bfebd8e

Salt is some random stuff.
SHA-256 is safe. (as long as you don't use an online tool that doesn't store it in their DB. Xorbin is fine, I think)

Knowing SHA-256 before is fine. But knowing the salt isn't.

Feedback noted, sir!

Working with the dev to switch it to nonce of closing block as we speak!

Appreciate your review ndnhc!

Thanks Cheesy
newbie
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SHA-256 is safe. (as long as you don't use an online tool that doesn't store it in their DB. Xorbin is fine, I think)

Knowing SHA-256 before is fine. But knowing the salt isn't.

Feedback noted, sir!

Working with the dev to switch it to nonce of closing block as we speak!

Appreciate your review ndnhc!
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Spastic dead-eyed hound.
I'm confused... so is this a tournament based on hash rates? I have no idea how this "tournament" works, so explain it for a newbie please  Grin

No, it is not based on hash rates, though that would be an interesting concept!

Cryptour functions just like traditional multi-table poker tournaments, except without cards.
Score is generated for each entries based on txid and tournament salt.

Please check out the section on How Cryptour tournament works for more details.

You may wish to try out the first Pilot tournament for only 0.003 BTC. Tournament concluding sometime in a day or so.

Ok, I might sound really newbish here because everyone is saying these terms interchangeably and I have no idea what they mean... what is "txid" and "salt"?
legendary
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New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
You can pick the hash or nonce etc. of the block that concludes the particular tournament (Block 375,480 in the 0.15 tournament) as the salt.

That way, no one would know what the salt is. Smiley

That actually sounds like a great idea!

I am also having this thought, of publishing the salt right away and also the position and position (maybe score – but if an entry that scores too high may discourage further participation).

I believe SHA-256 should be safe enough that it is not exploitable, even knowing the salt before hand it is not easy to generate a winning txid. SHA-256 is picked in many places for Bitcoin protocol for precisely this reason.


Nah, publish the salt and people can exploit it. Right now, only you can (I don't think you were aware of it, or you will, but anyway). But if you can make it related to something of the block that will only be known in the future, then it becomes 100% provably fair. Smiley

SHA-256 is safe. (as long as you don't use an online tool that doesn't store it in their DB. Xorbin is fine, I think)

Knowing SHA-256 before is fine. But knowing the salt isn't.
newbie
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You can pick the hash or nonce etc. of the block that concludes the particular tournament (Block 375,480 in the 0.15 tournament) as the salt.

That way, no one would know what the salt is. Smiley

That actually sounds like a great idea!

I am also having this thought, of publishing the salt right away and also the position and position (maybe score – but if an entry that scores too high may discourage further participation).

I believe SHA-256 should be safe enough that it is not exploitable, even knowing the salt before hand it is not easy to generate a winning txid. SHA-256 is picked in many places for Bitcoin protocol for precisely this reason.

newbie
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I am interested in Tournament , will be playing it when it starts.
How the entries will be made ? I hope you gonna provide server seed so that we can check if the game is probably fair or not.

The tournament ends when the Closing Block is reached. For our Pilot tournament, it ends when block height is 375 480.

The entries are made by simply making a transaction to the tournament address and for the amount of the entry fee.

Score is generated based on the entry's txid and tournament salt. More info on our provably fair algorithm.
legendary
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New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
You can pick the hash or nonce etc. of the block that concludes the particular tournament (Block 375,480 in the 0.15 tournament) as the salt.

That way, no one would know what the salt is. Smiley
newbie
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I'm confused... so is this a tournament based on hash rates? I have no idea how this "tournament" works, so explain it for a newbie please  Grin

No, it is not based on hash rates, though that would be an interesting concept!

Cryptour functions just like traditional multi-table poker tournaments, except without cards.
Score is generated for each entries based on txid and tournament salt.

Please check out the section on How Cryptour tournament works for more details.

You may wish to try out the first Pilot tournament for only 0.003 BTC. Tournament concluding sometime in a day or so.
legendary
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New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
Looking at the probably fair system, I have one doubt, what prevents you from generating an exact txid to win the prize when many people bets? Because you can actually see the salt (it is in your server). Provably fair means that a casino can't take the win from the player or modify it, but here you can find a txid that merged with the salt gives you the victory. I don't know how could you find a way to fix this...

Thank you for reviewing our provably fair algorithm. Yes, our goal is to have a system that not even the house can exploit.

The txid that we are using is txid from bitcoin blockchain itself. We even link directly to blockchain.info so it is not up to us to generate txid. In fact it is generated at players' wallets.

Salt for each tournaments are predetermined even before we get our first entries. While our gut feeling tells that we can publish salt even before tournament concludes, just to be extra safe, we decides to instead publish sha256 hash of salt from start of tournament. When tournament concludes, actual salt will be revealed and that can be validated with the sha256 hash that has been published.

As far as I can tell, I do not think we are able to exploit it even knowing the salt.

Or perhaps, we should make it fair and just publish the salt right away as I don't think it is exploitable, right?

Thanks once again for reviewing it. We would like to create a safe and trustworthy tournament environment for all. Eventually our goal is to allow even 3rd parties to organize tournaments on our platform.


hmm, you are missing this:
It is possible to know the txid before broadcasting it. So, the player can if he knows the salt generate a txid that makes him win the tournament.

The question is, since you have the salt, what is the guarantee that you will not exploit it?
hero member
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I am interested in Tournament , will be playing it when it starts.
How the entries will be made ? I hope you gonna provide server seed so that we can check if the game is probably fair or not.
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Provably fair method used is well explained.

Thanks for reviewing it! That's the idea. Smiley

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There is no minimum number of entries for guaranteed tournament to be held?

Minimum number of entries would be 1. Otherwise we have no one to pay to.  Cheesy

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Thanks for the feedback! Yes, we are working on it right now.

It was not very straight-forward as we have no accounts, so we will have to have a way to still allow free coupon entries to not only specify winning payout address, but also a way to generate txid without actual payment. I believe we have something figured out now and are in the works!

Thanks!
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Spastic dead-eyed hound.
I'm confused... so is this a tournament based on hash rates? I have no idea how this "tournament" works, so explain it for a newbie please  Grin
newbie
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Looking at the probably fair system, I have one doubt, what prevents you from generating an exact txid to win the prize when many people bets? Because you can actually see the salt (it is in your server). Provably fair means that a casino can't take the win from the player or modify it, but here you can find a txid that merged with the salt gives you the victory. I don't know how could you find a way to fix this...

Thank you for reviewing our provably fair algorithm. Yes, our goal is to have a system that not even the house can exploit.

The txid that we are using is txid from bitcoin blockchain itself. We even link directly to blockchain.info so it is not up to us to generate txid. In fact it is generated at players' wallets.

Salt for each tournaments are predetermined even before we get our first entries. While our gut feeling tells that we can publish salt even before tournament concludes, just to be extra safe, we decides to instead publish sha256 hash of salt from start of tournament. When tournament concludes, actual salt will be revealed and that can be validated with the sha256 hash that has been published.

As far as I can tell, I do not think we are able to exploit it even knowing the salt.

Or perhaps, we should make it fair and just publish the salt right away as I don't think it is exploitable, right?

Thanks once again for reviewing it. We would like to create a safe and trustworthy tournament environment for all. Eventually our goal is to allow even 3rd parties to organize tournaments on our platform.
legendary
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Looking at the probably fair system, I have one doubt, what prevents you from generating an exact txid to win the prize when many people bets? Because you can actually see the salt (it is in your server). Provably fair means that a casino can't take the win from the player or modify it, but here you can find a txid that merged with the salt gives you the victory. I don't know how could you find a way to fix this...
newbie
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This looks interesting!

Can people who've played please post a review?

Thanks

The tournaments are the first ones we have. We have just went live couple of minutes before the start of this thread. Hope reviews will come soon.

Our Pilot tourney is closing soon when Bitcoin block height hits 375 480 (ETA:1 day), has a massive overlay:

BTC 0.003 to enter
with BTC 0.15 guaranteed prize pool

Hope to see some entries soon!

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Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Do you do not have free tournament ?
We need free tournament to try your web.
Thanks in advance

Thanks!

We will be launching freeroll support within this week! Mailing list subscribers will definitely get the first codes.




Subscribed to the list. Free coupon is the best way to try the site risk-free.
Provably fair method used is well explained. There is no minimum number of entries for guaranteed tournament to be held?
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Do you do not have free tournament ?
We need free tournament to try your web.
Thanks in advance

Thanks!

We will be launching freeroll support within this week! Mailing list subscribers will definitely get the first codes.


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This looks interesting!

Can people who've played please post a review?

Thanks
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I've  signed up for a free tournament, I hope they come soon.
legendary
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Enterapp Pre-Sale Live
Do you do not have free tournament ?
We need free tournament to try your web.
Thanks in advance
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Fresh off the oven. Just hit the Live button only a couple of minutes ago.

Introducing Cryptour.
https://cryptour.com

Cryptour is an exciting cryptocurrency tournament that is provably fair.

Each tournament functions similar to a poker tournament, except without the cards and a much larger scale.

There is no registration needed to play. No Random Number Generator (RNG)!. 100% provably fair.

We are only just launched with 6 tournaments announced so far, 3 with guarantees!



We have only just concluded our first pilot tournament, with 10 winners and overlay.

Next upcoming tournaments:

Notes:
  • Entries are updated in real time, even before confirmations.
  • The site currently has no live refresh, please refresh to view the latest entries.

Sign up for our updates at the bottom of the site to get posted as we updates. We will be adding freerolls soon for newsletter subscribers.

Feel free to ask me here if you have any questions.
Suggestions and feedback are very welcomed!

Good luck!
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