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Topic: Introducing Hash's Law (Read 1981 times)

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Ching-Chang;Ding-Dong
April 12, 2014, 08:17:58 PM
#26
hash's law = fail
legendary
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April 12, 2014, 07:05:56 PM
#25
Yes, but it went below $380 two days ago Smiley
sr. member
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Pre-sale - March 18
April 12, 2014, 06:10:05 PM
#24
Seems like your law didn't last long though.
No matter how strong a community we are, if China dumps, it'll automatically drive prices down. Think of it as an exchange rate. They dump, supply increases and people buy at lower prices. For the strong believers in bitcoin, they'd open their arms to a dump to pick up cheap coins as they genuinely believe it'll rise long term.

It is still stable around 420 at the moment
legendary
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April 12, 2014, 06:03:46 PM
#23
Seems like your law didn't last long though.
No matter how strong a community we are, if China dumps, it'll automatically drive prices down. Think of it as an exchange rate. They dump, supply increases and people buy at lower prices. For the strong believers in bitcoin, they'd open their arms to a dump to pick up cheap coins as they genuinely believe it'll rise long term.
newbie
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April 07, 2014, 09:29:29 AM
#22
I don't even care about mtgox any more.

Now there is new problems, but we are going to deal with them.
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April 04, 2014, 08:59:17 AM
#21
the algorithm reference pof was kind of cheesy
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terra-credit.com
April 04, 2014, 08:56:38 AM
#20
All this anxiety about bitcoin volatility and analysis of the consequences of price changes is kind of funny. If bitcoin was perfectly stable then the return would equal that of other risk free assets. Higher risk higher return and more chance for cheap coins.
This. There is a very slim chance you will find an investment that will be risk free and will offer high reward...
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April 04, 2014, 07:41:43 AM
#19
All this anxiety about bitcoin volatility and analysis of the consequences of price changes is kind of funny. If bitcoin was perfectly stable then the return would equal that of other risk free assets. Higher risk higher return and more chance for cheap coins.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
April 03, 2014, 11:52:34 AM
#18
$576....$780!
Let's buy some more hashing power?  Cheesy
legendary
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April 03, 2014, 11:41:29 AM
#17
$450...
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Cryptocurrencies Exchange
April 03, 2014, 07:30:45 AM
#16
It is not new low when you compare it to price one year ago.

People have very short memory .
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April 03, 2014, 06:46:36 AM
#15
I'm buying now because I know that I can buy them cheaper than miner can produce them.
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legendary
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Stagnation is Death
April 03, 2014, 02:39:47 AM
#13
416 now
sr. member
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Pre-sale - March 18
April 03, 2014, 02:33:40 AM
#12
At 2014-04-02 Crypto made it obvious to all users:

The new low, introducing Hash's Law.

at a value at 420$ the community stands united and strong.

China can collapse, Mt.Gox can fall but 420 is unbreakable.

Today history was written!

You can take our money but you can take our PoF (Proof of Freedom)

Regards,

/ Hashish community spokesman

Low: 416 USD
Introducing Hash's Law amendments?

We are near the bottom, hopefully.

Hash's law is more than just a number. Anything below 420 is still 420 since we will always be higher
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April 03, 2014, 02:32:12 AM
#11
I agree too. Anything below 400 and buyers would pop out everywhere.
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April 03, 2014, 02:24:12 AM
#10

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Yikes, sorry to hear that.  I never thought about the economics of BTC mining.  What happens if the miners close shop?  Don't you need miners to support the network?

What about the commercial operations?  Does it cost them the same?  I suppose its cheaper where electricity is cheaper
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Hash rate goes down if miners quit, making it more profitable to mine. There will always be mining. I am planning on buying up a lot of the unprofitable hardware to make bitcoins if there is a hash crash.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
April 02, 2014, 09:59:59 PM
#9
At 2014-04-02 Crypto made it obvious to all users:

The new low, introducing Hash's Law.

at a value at 420$ the community stands united and strong.

China can collapse, Mt.Gox can fall but 420 is unbreakable.

Today history was written!

You can take our money but you can take our PoF (Proof of Freedom)

Regards,

/ Hashish community spokesman

Low: 416 USD
Introducing Hash's Law amendments?

We are near the bottom, hopefully.
hero member
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April 02, 2014, 09:25:56 PM
#8
I have long since retired asic miners.  And BFL gen 1.  Now looking at retiring BitFury.  Running Cointerra happily.  Looking at A1s.  And yes, if you buy A1s today, and sell under $600 you are taking a loss.  Since the hash rate just jumped a LOT recently,  probably $700 is a better estimate of break-even.  Since the majority of mining capacity was bought at a much higher price than today's capacity, almost all miners are losing money unless they hold out for much higher prices.


Yikes, sorry to hear that.  I never thought about the economics of BTC mining.  What happens if the miners close shop?  Don't you need miners to support the network?

What about the commercial operations?  Does it cost them the same?  I suppose its cheaper where electricity is cheaper
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
April 02, 2014, 09:12:39 PM
#7
I have long since retired asic miners.  And BFL gen 1.  Now looking at retiring BitFury.  Running Cointerra happily.  Looking at A1s.  And yes, if you buy A1s today, and sell under $600 you are taking a loss.  Since the hash rate just jumped a LOT recently,  probably $700 is a better estimate of break-even.  Since the majority of mining capacity was bought at a much higher price than today's capacity, almost all miners are losing money unless they hold out for much higher prices.
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April 02, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
#6
It could cost 600 if depending on hardware and electricity price. Although people who stayed in mining when the price fell from 30 to 2 dollars made a killing. So it all depends on your expectations. I suspect many people with older asic will retire their gear though if and when BFL starts delivering.
hero member
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April 02, 2014, 08:29:35 PM
#5
I disagree, anything below 600 is desastrous for miners that have invested heavily in it.
at the current exchange I can hold production for two more months, if the price doesn't go up, I will have to shut everything off  Embarrassed

This is interesting.  So you are saying it costs more than $600 to mine 1 BTC?
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April 02, 2014, 08:25:43 PM
#4
I disagree, anything below 600 is desastrous for miners that have invested heavily in it.
at the current exchange I can hold production for two more months, if the price doesn't go up, I will have to shut everything off  Embarrassed

Sad

I think the price will be a good amount higher in 2 months, so hopefully you won't have to shut everything off. I will be very surprised if it is lower.
hero member
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April 02, 2014, 07:10:42 PM
#3
I disagree, anything below 600 is desastrous for miners that have invested heavily in it.
at the current exchange I can hold production for two more months, if the price doesn't go up, I will have to shut everything off  Embarrassed
legendary
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April 02, 2014, 06:34:39 PM
#2
At 2014-04-02 Crypto made it obvious to all users:

The new low, introducing Hash's Law.

at a value at 420$ the community stands united and strong.

China can collapse, Mt.Gox can fall but 420 is unbreakable.

Today history was written!

You can take our money but you can take our PoF (Proof of Freedom)

Regards,

/ Hashish community spokesman

Well hello!
Smiley
Yes you are right. I must add that $420 is a great price according to price 1 year ago!

Bitcoin will never die Smiley

Freedom is a state of mind!
sr. member
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Pre-sale - March 18
April 02, 2014, 04:10:17 PM
#1
At 2014-04-02 Crypto made it obvious to all users:

The new low, introducing Hash's Law.

at a value at 420$ the community stands united and strong.

China can collapse, Mt.Gox can fall but 420 is unbreakable.

Today history was written!

You can take our money but you can take our PoF (Proof of Freedom)

Regards,

/ Hashish community spokesman
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