Topic: Invasion of U.S. by foreigners. (Read 398 times)

The problem is demonisation of foreigners by certain elements of the media and certain politicians and certain former presidents. 'Foreigners' aren't a problem. Treatment of foreigners is.

One major problematic outcome of immigration, legal or illegal, is that it is often the young and skilled who are able to escape their nation of origin, leading to a brain drain in that country as they move to richer countries with better opportunities, such as the US.

Invasion of U.S by foreigners is a serious problems that U.S  is facing currently now,and the issues has made their citizenry to feel insecure of their properties and life,I think the only measures to checkmate such problem is to enact a policy regulations by non-immigrants and immigrants,the foreigners should not be given opportunity to work in any sensitive office without any thorough scrutinization.
The policy will make the U.S government to gain balance and confidence in the way they discharge their function in any given jurisdiction.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

1. The post talks about not the illegal immigrants, but the immigrants from the foreign countries
2. Your reasoning is off as they still invade and steal the land they're claiming to be theirs. You can't just erase the fact that the land is not theirs and they don't have the rights to be claiming that it is theirs when they're clearly stolen.
3. Illegals is not legal in the first place so they don't have a talk, but legal immigrants have the rights to stay and do what they need to do as they are LEGALLY there.

It is different because the motherfuckers that got buttfucked by the foreigners were weak so they lost their homeland.

Do you want to get buttfucked by the foreigners too? As I said, If you want this so much why don't you lock your door at night? Let everybody in! Why do you even own a house? Why don't you share it with the homeless people?

What is wrong with wanting not to get buttfucked by the illegals?

Communism is a damn disease I swear.

The only situation where it makes sense to say what you just said is if you are coming from a shithole 3rd world country, have nothing to lose but want all the wealth the western world provide for its citizens > means you are one of those illegals.

Or...

You are a democrat.

There is zero difference between getting robbed by somebody at gunpoint and inviting illegal immigrants to your country. Zero.

People lose their shit when a burglar breaks into their house and clears the place but they have no problems with the illegals.

What do I expect though... If people were smart enough to protect their wealth, they wouldn't have let the central banking scam that has been going on for decades.

"Utilize it in a meaningful way"?  Are you trying to say the natives had no use for the land?

Why did they try to resist the invasions if they had no use for the land then?
They were also human beings like you are right now. They also probably thought they were civilized just like you think you are civilized right now. Hundreds of years from now, you will also be an ancestor and there will be far more "civilized" societies than yours today. Does that make the facts about the lands you occupied or what you did insignificant?

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How is it different?
The current people complaining about foreigners were invaders and that's a fact we cannot deny. Whether it happened a long time ago or just yesterday. They will still be remembered as invaders.

That's a different topic. That time is long gone. If you truly believe what you said why don't you burn down your passport and national ID and try to live like an illegal for a month? I am sure it will work wonderfully.

Land is not your land until you utilize it in a meaningful way, people don't owe anyone anything. Occupying a space does not make it yours. No one owned the land they were on centuries ago before civil society exists. It's like taking an unoccupied piece of space, building a house, and then expecting to give it up to someone who never contributed to the building of the house just because *their ancestors* occupied the land hundreds of years.

Imagine some group of people forcefully invading a continent that was never theirs some few centuries back and now when other people migrate to the same lands, the former invaders have the audacity to tag them as immigrants, illegals etc

I am pretty sure that he is talking about the illegal immigrants. Nobody would have a problem with the legals I imagine.

If a person comes to the USA with a touristic visa and doesn't leave, is this acceptable to you? I don't know whatever country you live in but you should be against it because whenever that happens in your country, it is your tax money the government will be spending on those people.

Do you want to feed people that are not legal citizens? Why don't you take them to your home then?

You call it invasion, well, for me its a blessing in disguise. Isn't America God's own state, it's Lord over all nation as world power although Russia never acknowledges them but, the success of America is based on this racial differences that exist within the nation. They've been able to harness the energy of all race within its jurisdiction to make the country great.

Its been seen by a land of opportunity for those that haven't been able to recognise the opportunity in a crisis situation and country in distress. Thats where the actual opportunity lies else, we wouldn't have refugees and homeless people in parts of America.
God bless America   

Can you make a forum where U.S. invades other countrys   , it would be more popular.Not just military invading,but installing puppet governments from all around the globe.

If you're going to make statements like that, then you really need to supply some evidence to back up your theory.
In my country immigrants are a huge asset, and perform vital, skilled roles in key industries.

And if you go far enough back in time, then we are all immigrants.

there is never ever going to be a world where there are no government cookies.. so the only factual argument you can have is about giving the cookie to those that NEED it not to those who WANT it.

i hope you realise there will never be a world with 0% tax. so change your argument to WHO you think deserves the tax(cookies)

by the way.
the us treasury budget is $4trillion. (4000 cookies) the "benefits" of immigrants was said to be estimated for shock and awe at $57bil(57 cookies)
but even at shock and awe over estimation thats still 1.4cookies per 100
these 1.4 cookies are not cash handed directly to immigrants..  they are instead things like the estimation of education costs of immigrant children.
but this number is inflated because the classroom lights still cost the same if there are 25 students or 26. the teacher is paid the same if its 25 or 26 students. so although this 57b was calculated on dividing all the education costs by 25 and then call that single student figure an extra expense.. its not.
the actual real world extra cost/extra expense is more like $1bill which is not even a single cookie

so while government hands out 4000 cookies. and lets corporations have 100-3000.. they are telling you to hate the people that dont even get 1 cookie in real terms.

oh and by the way.. banks take more cookies. and also repossess more homes than immigrants.
when you really start to learn about bitcoin and its advantages over fiat. you start to learn to hate banks/gov and not people

I actually salute and respect those countries who takes refugees. Yes, I feel sorry for those citizen of the countries who are feeling that they've been robbed by their rights, etc., but looking at the bigger picture, I can see the lives of peoples changing instead of they dying or being traumatized by war, bombs and gunshots.

Just SALUTE.

A country without borders is not a country. The shit is about to hit the fan. This taxing the middle class and giving free money to the illegals scheme is coming to an end. The exact same scam is happening in where I live.

If you want to learn what I am talking about, google: "The country with the most refugees."

Come people there is free healthcare for everybody here! (except for the legal citizens)

Oh I've read this in history books somewhere. "The [insert country] colonized by U.S."

Government handouts are just a “flick of the switch” right?
Stuffs all free.. Right...

Just flick a switch to take more taxes from the middle class so they can make more cookies..
“We promised you all these cookies but we gave them to someone else.. Well just have to raise your taxes a little more so we can give you the cookies we promised you in the first place..”

I say NO government cookies for ANYONE..

1940's:women steal mens roles while at war
1950's:americans stealing our women
1960's:chinese stealing our british fish&chip customers
1970's:indians stealing our corner stores
1980's:blacks stealing our homes
1990's:irish travellers stealing everything
2000's:europeans stealing our farming/cleaning jobs
2010's:middle easterners stealing our benefits

i have no problem with it. im just stating the racial infighting narrative

more people living in a city means more people buying food means more people needed to replenish the shelves of food=more jobs.

the failure is not in letting people in. its in letting businesses pay less wages/employ less staff/let businesses set up far away from their homeland

its that analogy
gov invites society to a cookie handout where there is 100 cookies. inviting 50 people promising 2 cookies each
30 corp guys turn up and get 3 cookies each. (leaving 10 cookies left)
18 citizens and 2 immigrants turn up
gov hands the immigrants 2 cookies each as they are starving
gov tells the citizens that they cant have their promised 36 cookies.. and point towards the immigrant as the immigrants eating 4 cookies.

when you learn that making new cookies to feed everyone is just a flick of a switch. dont blame the small % that get cookies because they need it. blame the corps that dont need. but love to have more then they deserve. and blame the gov for not offering enough cookies, even when they are in full control of cookie making

This is true of most governments around the world.

I don't think the issue is so much with 'normal' people who migrate from one country to another, it's more to do with the way that modern nations work. It's standard divide and conquer. Get the masses fighting amongst themselves, to distract from what's really happening: the powerful exploiting everyone else.

We've had the same in the UK. First it's black and Asian people 'coming over here and taking our jobs', then it's the Europeans, then it's Irish Travellers, then it's [insert next minority group to oppress and demonise]. The poor fight amongst themselves, whilst the rich get richer. So convenient that the rich control the media.

The US is hardly a free market and Trump is hardly a libertarian..

Open boarders? Hell yes!!
Just have to completely stop ALL forms of welfare first
ALL

Is that possible?


They will vote for open boarders and all the welfare/free shit they can get their hands on..
They don’t care about what’s best for the future of the country, they just selfishly care about what’s best for them RIGHT NOW..

Well everyone in U.S. is a foreign. Only ones that are not are indians. People go away from their homes to U.S. for better life. They bring with them their culture and that is actually fortune for U.S. A lot of different people working together. It is called democracy.

remember trump got his mother inlaw in via 'more visa'
trump also used 'free market' tarrifs.. which meant US bitcoin miners had to pay more to get an asic

funny part is libertarian ideals are no borders no rules.. yet 'build a wall' border and restrict visa's seem like borders and rules to me.. so not very libertarian is it

the statue of liberty does not read 'f*ck off back to your own country'
even the founding fathers talked about liberty

The problem is that we, the US, are being invaded by those “foreigners” that do not hold the libertarian principles of our founding fathers, but rather the principles of selfishness and “free stuff”...

They will gladly vote away our rights and free markets for a few more food stamps and more visas for their relatives..

Exactly what “they” want, and this is why us western countries are being flooded with foreigners..
So “they” can take control of us..

Allegiance to one country is measured by paying taxes and other bills regularly. After that by respecting law. And that's it. There's nothing wrong if someone still have love to its birth country, nation etc.

You are essentially complaining to the very foundation of US of A. US is the melting pot of culture and that is what makes that country unique. The only reason that you are complaining about this is because you are a racist and a bigot and you think that white is the only acceptable color in US of A because you believe that you are the superior race. If your reason is they are taking your jobs then you should stop smoking meth and injecting heroin because Jose the Mexican that has no vices and not an addict will be a better applicant than White Trash Jim who has meth teeth and itchy soul.

im guessing the topic creator is talking about the latest conspiracies

the first conspiracy is this
biden is an ancestor of irish descent. and the theory is that the IRA (irish republican army) sent its troops to america to invade america. and form some 'cell' of a republican militia in america. to take over america.
whereby biden is actually a republican in disguise. pretending to be democrat just to infiltrate the democrats and convert them to republicans.

the second is this
obama and biden are just some dyslexic anagram of osama bin laden

these conspiracy has been debunked
biden is not trying to create a new irish republic that defeats american republicans and american democrats
biden is not a republican of any nation
the democrats are not secret muslims/jews put inplace to help the middle east take over of the world
there is no invasion

Or we can say that US government attracted skillful people due to the development compared to their country so they came here and pay taxes here and helping further with the development of US economy?

Don't be so naive, this is modern world so you can't be given chances just because you born there, some skill also needs to be eligible.

 

washington london and vatican set up their capitals as sovereign entities to stop foreign invaders taking them over.
by being a separate entity nothing at either state level or international level is above them thus protecting a government from take over

this is why although the uk was in the EU the EU could not force the uk to adopt the euro
its why the UN cant force a country to agree to any paris agreements or donate to WHO

yes these things are to stop foreign invadors not to cause foreign takeovers

This is the thing that most people have forgotten.

I personally think that the way to show your love for a country it so criticize it, as that’s the only chance that it can continue to get better and grow. If you have undying loyalty towards the government or to a certain party / politician then they’re going to take you for granted and take advantage of you.

The only way to ensure the survival of this country (and every country on this earth) is to foster new conversations, new ideas, and allow the country to grow and evolve.

If you’re not moving forwards, you’re moving backwards.

Don't forget the hole country is being build by foreigners. The thing with USA is that there are almost none of the original inhabitants left. Most of the current families migrated into USA over the last 200 years. And since USA is the greatest country in the world there will be more people coming in the future. It might be not for the first generation but the ones being born there will identify as America.

The president is a president of the US government corporation. The only two things that the US government controls are the borders and the creation of money. They don't control the people except that people have contracted with them to be under their control. How have the people contracted with them? Through any documents they have signed with government, like the Social Security Application.

Don't mistake criticism for anti-Americanism.

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

I'd say that every human in the US is a foreigner. And unless 100% of your ancestors came across the frozen Bering strait tens of thousands of years ago dressed in animal skins, then you're not an original settler, you're a foreign invader, too.

People move about, always have. A lot of recent migration around the world is due to difficult economic situations and unstable regimes in poorer nations - a large part of the cause of which is the various acts of transgression, colonisation and exploitation on the part of richer nations such as the western Europeans and, since WW2, the US.

'Foreigners' is misleading. 'Invaded' is provocatively emotive, and untrue.

why not change its current constitution just like the NK? I personally think that it is not bad after all to live in a foreign country that you wish for. To think of it also it is not just the U.S there are a lot of countries that are in a much worse situation of losing their own land.

Many see the united States as a land of opportunities. For this reason, till tomorrow, many people from around the world will continue to find their way to the United States in search for greener pastures. I think their allegiance is to themselves first and their survival. Many of them care less about politics in the country.

^^^ That's something like what the Native Americans were saying some 500 years ago.

The U.S. has been invaded by foreigners.  Most of these people have U.S. citizenship at this point, but their allegiance seems to be only to a foreign country or other political entity.
Many of you may already be aware of this, and many others probably don't really care.  But I think all loyal citizens of the U.S. and it's allies should be made aware of this if they aren't already.