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Lol it makes me laugh how badly people try. I mean if you want to scam people make it believable. Make it just good enough to be possible. 30x is just being stupid. I think a realistic value would be 2%-5% perhaps more. I think a good casino investment might double your money in a year or come close to like make 80% then that guy's comes with 30x xD that will take 1/3 to 1/2 your life.

That's always needed to consider first before placing any investment, knowing everything and understand the risk factors, investing with casino
doesn't mean that you are guaranteed that you will always win, there's also a big whales who knows how to take care of their bankroll and can
quit right away after winning decent money.

But you all need to check profit sharing % with investors because I lost money on moneypot site.

You say its risky but in all honestly how exactly risky is it?

They say that investing in the stock market is "very safe" and yet most retail investors end up losing their savings.
They say that investing in Bitcoin itself and "hodling" is very safe and yet most retail investors end up day trading and lose their positions.

The bankrolls that you invest with these casinos should be actually safer than those 2. Basically you do nothing, you just trust the casino with your money for them to run their promotions to get the site enough gamblers so in the end it can generate a profit.

In the end, most people would make money just by investing with these casinos and doing nothing else.

If you're referring to gambling then it is not an investment but we are spending money on those games to get fun. Only if you're very lucky then you can make some profit for that I will not call it as an investment. Investment means where you can calculate some profit over the time and results do not completely depend on luck. But if you plan to invest money on casino bankrolls then you can expect some profit in the long run.

Of course I can believe it that casinos make most of the profit. I think many people want to open their own casinos but they can't because of the lack of investment. Investing in a Casino it still risky but as we know but the amount which you can afford to lose. Greed makes a person stupid and then they take stupid decisions it's your money so research and see all the possibilities before putting your money anywhere.

You can say such things on where if we do see huge returns specially on these kind of investment like investing on gambling houses are total scams which we do know that it do only give a small percentage of profits that they would made on a particular month but still there are newbies who are bound on being victimized on these kind of proposals but ended up on getting scammed.House do always wins this is why this kind of investment would give you money but dont expect big amounts.

People seeing this promise of returns have to be aware that in the crypto world there are scams everywhere and when someone is offering returns too high you can be pretty sure they are scammers.

Bitcoin is a risky investment and investing in trusted casinos like crypto-games or others is even riskier but when a casino is offering returns way much higher than the trusted ones you’d better stay away from it.

I agree with everyone. The Casino always wins. Your idea is highly doubtful. I like gambling, I play from time to time. I always can lose my money that's why I choose only safe website, for example GmblSites . 

Exactly. A casino with such returns would never need investors come with money.
And with such returns I doubt it's a honest casino.

This would be if we'd trust the OP, which having red feedback I don't expect him to be correct.
As somebody else said, his attempt to get some referral money makes more bad to that casino he can imagine.

Nevermind have trust rating listen to what he is saying 30x my phone investment? What crap. So I invest 1 BTC I get 30btc I retire. Far too easy the casino would have to have like s 90% house edge and so many people playing ^^

If you want a real casino investment then trust Yolodice. Yolodice explains he the investment works and if you read through it you will understand why the OP is talking nonesense.

Dude go back to sleep and stay asleep. Your excuse for making it so high as x30 is that the token will pick up value. The casino will never so that that's only a distrsfor idiots. It's your coin that will give people the x30 which it won't wtf why do you think your token will increase that much ? Because you say it will ?

We will see, lets talk again in february 2018

I would really be more convinced if they would offer 1-1.5% return monthly and even on those values are already too big but what the hell about 30x? You are just dreaming or just been drunk to say such thing. 30x on investment for 6 months is unbelievable already and not realistic at all and last that red trust of yours, you do really deserve that.

i already made like 50% on BET so far by buying them when ethereum was down

Wow, how much time you spent to do that power point presentation? Are you jocking? Cmon...

Anyways nice try. If you would just say 1.2% monthly, you could actually have a chance in getting some investitors

Everything you thik to know you base on things from the past

Dao casino is something totally different and a great buy and hold

plus BET token itself are very usefull

Check out the roadmap

Investing in casinos is just like throwing your money out of your pocket to other's pocket.
If you have that much knowledge that how to make your money double with that years of knowledge and losing tons of money. You will master that move one day.

I wouldn't call Vod hatter.
He flagged you for a reason, you were running a ponzi scam and no one should trust you.

What is your guaranty that you will have enough players in casino to give 30X return?

well,at least this guy listened to the advice and changed his red trust account
as for 30x profit it is akin to saying,well you can win 1.000.000 times your bet! (according to ....some research)
yes you can,is it probable? nope,highly unlikely
in any case,good luck to him and his casino,if they manage to dish out such a profit in six months I would say chapeu to them 

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Seriously 30x return in 6 month? IMO it's obviously scam. ups sorry to say that because i think you have give an offer out of reasonable. sorry sorry let's make it clear 30x 100% =3000% profit only in six month? rights? this casino has been running?

@PancherBitCoin

thatswhy invest in DAO Casino, I cant even stop talking good about that platform because its just really great

Dao is the best upcoming platform there will be, period

because of our fair and transparent system we will attract the best of the best to work for us
regardless of marketers, developers, bankroll backers everyone gets his fair share

and there is so much more good to say about Dao Casino

Ive been a gambler all my life and i know all these bs gambling sites, after a while in this gambling world you just get a certain feeling if something is fishy or not

and with Dao Casino i get the same feeling as I had when ethereum came out and I heard Vitalik speek in 2013, I knew what he was saying was right and good even though I didnt understand most of the stuff he talked, but point is look how ethereum turned out to be

and the same will happen with Dao Casino, if you into gambling and you look around that platform and find out about the team and what they talk about, you just know thats the real deal

Plus with that low ether you get a really good price for those BET token right now

So if interessted in investing
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- its just a tracking not a referral link (plus use only that link for security purpose aswell, to many scam sites of dao are up)

only legit DAO Sites are
https://dao.casino
daocasino.de (ref link)
daocasino.uk  (ref link)

and my tracking link, from my signature

and if you want to know more about Dao Casino you can always send me a message
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Why wouldnt DAO Casino be accepted?

Look at all these other scam casinos with their deposit bonus and high turnover requirements, high fees and unfriendly support

plus noone knows if those Casinos are really provably fair which im sure most aren´t

plus everything on DAO Casino itself is transparent from gambling till paying developers a fair share

So Dao Casino will be interesting to everyone, every marketer receives 25% on his referrals, everyone receives a fair share and knows it upfront

and everything that happens on Dao Casino or any other Dao Casino platform stays on the blockchain or within google analytics

so why wouldnt dao casino be accepted

Its time for you fortune jack, betcoin and all the other sites, which I have really big concerns about their legitamcy, to watch your market cause in a minute noone will use your fishy sites anymore- i can guarantee you that

Just as we know that investing on casinos/gambling sites is a good choice for long term but if you are a type of person doesnt really like to see small income on your investments specially on longer periods then this investment isnt really for you. Same as yours i would rather keep my bitcoin and hold them for a period of time which i strongly believe that would make some good growth of my money but well theres always a risk either on investments on casino or just on bitcoin itself.

The 25% is fix

you receive 25% for banking the bankroll
25% as developer
25% as marketer
25% as casino operator

if you run your own platform refer your own people and bank your own bankroll you will make 75% on every $ lost on your platform

if you a develop your own games aswell you make a 100% on every $ lost

Prior to investing it's good to make a clear comparison on the percentage of profiting with respect to the investment capital. In my view investing into casinos is not gonna profit you as the everything is dependent on the growth of the particular casino. For that it's better to hold and make profit with the price difference happening with time.

I think there bitcoin casino investment are can gives you profit but in other gambling casino are not there are already reviews about it and i heard 3 of site are giving a good profit with his investment.
Those owner are just sometimes out of funds so investment from other people can help other people to make profit and prevent the casino to out of funds.
About dao casino i think its not guaranteed to invest but we will not know if we don't test their service and offer they said you can make profit of 30x  in 6 months.. this is what i heard in some thread here in gambling section.

You need to tell the reality of the truth about what can only be earned by an investor in a casino, but not a gambler. The fact is that a gambler wins in 5% out of 100. And everything else goes to the owner and the investor. Gambling is a very lucrative thing, but you need to do the right thing to get this profit.

Situation depends on how would the Casino's earn for that day and if they lose investors will lose also so I really also believe that gambling investments can be point as profitable if whales winning streak will occur. But since the casino's have the highest chances to won I think we can get some profits from them on the other point but don't expect to much with them since there's divedends percentage will be distributed to their investors at the end of the day.

How can it will not profitable on investing through gambling site? I think to get 25% ia pretty easy if the casino that you invested having good payout and heavy traffic. You can see betking.io for last time, they can have so many big whales there to play. So if you said that it is hard for them to get only 25% I think you are wrong here. May be they can even get more than that

Even If we don't talk about gambling site investment but still there's no really guarantee in this world that we can earn for certain particular thing out here but there is the one could risk that we need to came after to earn in this kind of platforms. And If we can't afford to lose then maybe casino investment and other type of investment is not for us and maybe its better to stock your balance on wallet and wait for pump and dump schemes on the coin you are holding.

No investments in crypto currencies and gambling are guaranteed, only time will tell us whether we are in profit or not. But if one is serious in promoting their business then they should know how to answer people questions not by using harsh words.

Yes but is this gauranteed? No its not. Plus you need to understand that DAO Casino is still very new and no idea if it will even take off or get accepted by most of the Crytpo community.

So please stop saying 30x profits or even 25% profits because its not true.

There are quite a few casinos going the way of using their tokens now since all the talk of bitcoin splitting chains and casinos not going to do withdrawals until all this business is settled and done with since it can cause issues along the road when they start receiving a ton of support tickets saying their customers have not received their withdrawals they requested.
As I think have already started to happen in a sportbetting casino I just visited their chat area. And there are already chaos in the wings with customers being irate about their withdrawals either being delayed by many hours to not even being processed according to their ingame casino wallets.
So it already has begun.
Expect to see even more casino tokens and these ICOs popping up until the August deadline inwhich everybody is saying will initiate segwit or this splitting of the blockchain into two.
We can only sit and hope now all will be process smoothly enough not to ruffle anymore feathers amongst the bitcoin gambling community.
One can only hope from this day forward.

@dao-casino,

I do not and I can't agree with your heavy tongue behavior, but for sure I wouldn't recommend some Casinos for gambling, I also had problems with one of them in the past and justice was made at least in bitcointalk's trust mechanism, no need to name it.

It's very likely you have been, at minimum, reported to moderation due to heavy words usage.

Remain calm, please.

I dont understand why you caluclate from the bankroll

im talking about a 30x on the coin itself

you will get 25% on your bankroll investment on dao casino

yes absolutely if you have that kind of site where you would like to invest in 1 month it will be scam i promise and you would not take your investment anymore you loose alot from this.  I would say if its says 15% a month it would be a great profit and i think they used your investment to build the site to be a capital then roll it so for a time it would be alot.

That is because they are coins, not bankroll.

How much house edge is it going to have? Let's suppose that the casino has put down 10% house edge (for easier calculations).

Suppose the leading bankroll is your maximum cap of $25M.

With a 10% house edge, to profit 30x, you would have to have a total $7.5B wagered.

In 6 months... that's a lot.

The casino is probably going to have lower house edge though, right? 1%? That'll be 75 billion dollars. Statistically, that is.

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I'm not saying the casino can't be profitable but the estimate of 30x profit is insane.

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William Hill stats for comparison purposes: https://www.williamhillplc.com/investors/investment-case/five-year-summary/

I totally understand but if i have to answer the same question 5 times in 1 thread especially in this short thread im questioning those asking the same question

on the other hand how does anyone know how the market will turn out- noone knows but some people can still research a project and based on certain patterns and progress in development you can draw a rough picture of the future
and most people on here that are interessted in investing didnt just get yesterday in the crypto world

and than yo have people saying oh its not possible when almost every coin(top 20) made a profit of more than 30x
30x is not a number that is to outrageous or to impossible to achieve

and again those numbers arent from dao casino itself

i understand how suffocate you are regarding to this endless question about your estimated 30x profits in 6 months of time period but that's how
investors like to be well informed since they will place their investment hoping for a good earnings this type of investment are for those who like
to risk and willing to gamble others might just wanted to sort things out so be patiently enough to answer queries, good luck to you and for this
upcoming house.

you are an idiot, who will give you free money upfront?

and noone is saying you will make a 30x this is an estimate, i dont know how many times i have to repeat that

and if you think its to risky for you, dont invest, its as simple as that

Never trust any 30x return in 6 months do you think what business are giving a free money without working..
This is just part of promotion and how they are promoting to attract people to invest.. if you can give us a first profit without investing maybe we can trust that casino but since you are asking first to invest just like other investment site doing its not safe our money to invest in risky project or a casino..
Better to go invest and buy more bitcoins instead and hold it for a long time than investing to a business which still in ICO.. Remember many traders and investors was scam in ICO's

May I suggest that nobody invests in this casino. 30 x profit in 6 months? If something sounds too good to be true then it usually is.

This is most likely a scam.

I just wonder how estimates are just being made with Return on Investment calculated with even taking into consideration other factors that are qualitative and only focusing on quantitative factors. There are several gambling sites that have even been here a long time but still cannot boast of such ROI but a new site coming in with that, I think there is need to go back to the drawing board and do proper analysis.

And the only thing absurd is your turnover requirements to even cash out winnings, if eople even win on your casino case i dont believe you guys play honest, so fuck what you say

You guys buy casino games for cheap and than trick dumb people in signing up for your shit and promise them a bonus which they never see because of your requirements

We build our own games, all of our code is audited and PROVABLY fair
everyone on Dao casino is getting a fair share, developers, bankroll backers,marketers and operators
plus all our gamblers have a fair shot on our games

what can you offer- other than scamming kids?
now go and answer those questions

and again I estimate that we will make 3000% within the first 5 years of us operating

what do investors get on your shit casino - not a fucking cent

so shut tha fuck up with your stupid fortune jack bullshit casino

the only true thing is your name- gamblers get jack shit depositng crypto to your bullshit site
so fuck you  and fuck your shit casino too

hope that answered yur question why researchers predict a 30x profit within 6 months

Didnt you guys already scam enough kids with your bullshit turnover sign up bonus?
why you still here trying to steal the pocket money of minors?

and you fortune jack scammer should be banned in the first place
go and tell the readers here how you scam your players with sign up bonuses with a 50x turnover

you know you scam everyone with this shit casino, so fuck you

i hope noone will ever use your bullshit scam casino once we out there and start rocking the szene

all you centralised casino promotors are the shit stain of crypto
promising provably fair gambling without ever anyone auditing your code
and than you rip of people with your bullshit sign up bonus

you guys are the scum of the scum

im tired of answering that question go back and read through my thread if you are able to do so

I believe you are not allowed to share your affiliate link in any post. So I think you are in violation of the rules of the forum.

Also like the other's question, how can you even promise a x30 return? That's absurd to be honest.

thats me, I set up a new account because of negative trust
and why you worried what everyone else is doing, I see even more people promoting this scam casino fortune jack, so you shouldnt talk if you have nothing nice to say

Alright what is going on here because all over Bitcointalk I see new accounts promoting this Dao Casino over and over again. There is also another user promoting the exact same thing.

Didn't you guys generate enough ETH from your ICO already? Why come here and spam?

Again the 30x profit doesnt come from Dao Casino

independent researchers said that and what ponzi

can you at least read through the whole tread before posting something
always the same dumb questions, READ before posting, is this so difficult?

get a different account,the one without red trust and remake the topic
this one is going to take you nowhere,you are doing a great disservice to DAO,actually
also reword it,if you THINK it CAN be 30x return in 6 months then say so
manipulation and ponzi like statements are not good for business

Again Mate, those numbers (30x) IS NOT from Dao Casino

Independent researchers think that this is possible within 6 month- but we DO NOT know how much growth we will make in the first 6 month

Please guys dont nail me on the 30x - I didnt write that article
you can read the article here
https://www.slideshare.net/TokenRating/ico-research-report-bet-token-issuance-by-daocasino

However, I personally believe we can grow even bigger than that within the first year, now this is my own opinion

For more Info about our Project and for Investing please use only this link  https://dao.casino/?utm_source=butcher (lots of phishing sites are around that claim to be dao casino)

That is what everyone is asking, how can anyone believe you solidly that it will be 30X returns in 6 months, whereas in reality it is still in ICO phase and every ICO project can claim the same thing like you. If you have any proofs then let us know.

no we havent given any return to our investors yet, because we still at ICO phase

you can invest any amount you like
https://dao.casino/?utm_source=butcher

To that person that commented earlier regarding transaction fees

please read this we have come up with a solution which eliminates transaction fees totally
https://medium.com/@dao.casino/fast-and-chargeless-dao-casino-accelerate-prototype-and-remove-fees-6a70763e5b6c

30X return in only 6 months ? . What is the minimum amount to invest ? have your site gave any return to any investor. Can you show us proof?

those were some haters flagging me
dont even pay attention to that- daocasino is great

I would like to but your reputation is red, I dont think this is a good idea here mate!

I am very interested in this company names DAO. They have very active ICO going on currently as well as there ANN looks very official. Im wondering about casino anyway as you have mentioned off the chart returns in the 6 months of period. 30X is hard to believe for any ICO or casino. Claiming this straightforward is big risk for investors like me who will think of the odds atlas 10 times before investing. If anyone knows more then please share.

a casino doesnt always win- we know that and especially those casinos that Donald trump runs never win

however dao casino is a decentralized casino so i dont see how this casino can go bankrupt, noone owns that casino

only casinos that are owned by someone can go bankrupt

the only thing that can happen with dao casio is that there arent that any bankroll backers

and I hope you guys understand the differents between profit on the bankroll and profit on the casino token

with the 30x return those researchers talk about the price increase of the BET token not the bankroll- those are 2 different things

so please keep this in mind

No, a casino does not always win! Take a look at MegaDice scam, 500+ Bitcoins defrauded and disappeared! how they destroyed the for $12 million purchased brand!

As we all know that most of the trusted casinos will surely make a good profit in the long run so being part of those casino bankroll investments is always good. I like to diversify my funds so I may also consider investing some money. But just for diversifying purpose don't invest your money in non-trusted sites because they may cheat and close the site.

30x is not realistic nor sustainable.
The one I am investing in is where they were offering 20% of their bankroll but just recently started offing 35%.

It is the best investment opportunity I have taken part of.
But I am not telling anyone which one it is or this can cut into the profits I am receiving and I believe it is against the rules to do so anyways.
So I am keeping a tight lip on it and just sit back and relax while I let it pay me my dividends.

All of those 7400 BTC aren't for investors. Those are total of betking profit since 2 years ago. I'm not sure if betking would like to open investment option again on their site or not, but joining their ICO isn't bad either.

I think with your negative trust you are doing nothing but leaving a bad image for DAO.Casino and many will think its a scam because according to your red trust you tried to run a ponzi scheme last month.

This is the reason why people with red trust normally aren't allowed to promote in signature campaigns because people associate you and the site you are trying to promote. And if you come out as a scammer, people will think the site you are promoting is a scam also.

They are telling you that your 30x for 6 months isn't realistic, simple as that. Look on how the legit ones are paying their investors monthly. Up to 30x for 6 months, read your offer again, you know it's too good to be true.

im not a dao casino dev and i honestly dont understand what you are saying
should this rambling be english?

this mean you want promote token casino.dao
or you can use capital money investor to gambling

if you casino.dao dev is bad promotion until you receive red trust

betking is centralized so this is no competition to dao casino

Why not invest in BetKing? Seems a very good opportunity to me!  They've previously made 7400 BTC profit to their investors. More information or road map is available on their site.

We are still in the beginning of your development fundraising etc..

and we will face lots of obstacles and issues over time but we are very confident that we can change the gambling industry the way it works right now

we are aware of your mentioned issues and we are working on a solution for all those problems

Im in crypto since a few years now and 30x after ICO is nothing to spectacular and it seems to everyone a fair estimate
of course we dont know for sure and this estimate isnt from DAO Casino itself this estimate comes from independent researchers

Crowdfunding for casinos is nothing new but we arent primarly a Casino we are a casino platform, everyone is able to host its own games on his own domain.

We have a great way that will reward everyone from marketers to bankroll backers to developers plus we are able to give gamblers a chance of provably fair gambling because our source code is publicly accesibly and alone that fact will make us set apart from those shady dice games you mentioned earlier

Yes Casinos go bankrupt, just look at our President Donald trump, he managed to bankrupt 3 casinos in 1 city but we are not looking for what can go wrong we are working on making things better.

Dont expect a casino that is up and running without any issues right away but we will do everything we can to make sure our casino is a win win for everyone

This is not true, there are lots of example of casinos getting bankrupt.

1 time opportunity to invest in online casino   There are many casino out there where we can invest and even there were several ICO ran by decentralized casino before so this is not the 1st opportunity by any mean

Upto 30x in 6 month   Dao casino is still running ICO so noway to predict how good it will do when listed on exchanger.

30x return sounds too good to be true, if it could give that kind of return then why is ICO still running? the greed must've taken over and ICO should've ended on first day itself. are you sure you're not trying to score some referrals by promising 30x return?

Firstly, you cannot call an unknown reviewer\editor an "independent researcher"

Secondly, the research compares the old-type gambling business of 1998 with no mentioning of the new-school cryptocurrency casinos that proliferated big time since then.

We should skip that part of the story where anybody with a related background admits that using random.org through Oracalize is not that "safe" and "true"  RNG source. Do some in-depth research to find out why.

Next, the innovation part:

- Crowdfunded casinos are not new/innovative anymore... They were few years back.

- Cost advantage is highly doubtful argument. Transaction fees remain high for small wager and in many instances make betting economically meaningless

- Practically impossible to conduct marketing layer on top of the contract, which means you need to adjust it constantly

Then you've got a bunch of legal issues as a bonus problem

You do not mention the current players who share the biggest portion of the gambling crypto market, such as PrimeDice, BitDice, Just-Dice and others.

And, most importantly, your research misses any sort of forecasting model to give us a range of numbers we need to see: revenue, costs, cash flows, etc

Hence I'm asking again where did you get this 30X return in 6 month from?

Regards,
Alex

No, this number has been givin by independent researchers

Read more: https://www.slideshare.net/TokenRating/ico-research-report-bet-token-issuance-by-daocasino

30X Returns in 6 month? Have you picked this number out of thin air?

Regards,
Alex.

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