Ioka Vs Martinez Super Flyweight division Unification Bout July 7th,Tokyo Japan

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Quote from: Jating on July 08, 2024, 06:37:43 AM

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For the latest updates on this fight Martinez won via unanimous decision, I agree with Martinez winning the fight but what I will not agree with is how the judges came out with this kind of scoring 120-108, 117-111, and 116-112 the fight is too close to have a scoring gap like this and what it worse for Ioka is the fight was held in Japan this is disrespectful to the Japanese boxing fans.

Even this article did not agree with how the judges scored the fight.

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By the time the twelfth round rolled around, both fighters looked like they’d been through a war, trading blows that should have balanced the books. But according to our blind-as-bats judges, Martinez was in a league of his own. A convincing win? More like a great illusion. I scored the fight a draw.

Source: The Night Of Questionable Judging: Fernando Martinez Crowned Amid Controversy - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/07/fernando-martinez-confident-in-tokyo-showdown-against-kazuto-ioka/)

Thanks for the update OP, I forget about this fight but we have a big upset as it could be the first time in recent months or years that we have seen a big upset. And I thought that Martinez is not going to win but I guess everyone is wrong here who picks Ioka to win based on his experience and having the home crowd behind him.

And I just the judges are not willing to give Ioka the fight and there are no biases here. For sure Martinez will go home very happy and emotional as he is now a unified champion and him beating Ancajas is no fluke after all as he upset another great champion. For sure Jesse Rodriguez now the WBC champion is willing to put his title on the line against Martinez here, the IBF and WBA champion and it's going to be war in this fight.

I don't consider this an upset. Martinez is a tough fighter who can beat anybody in the Super Flyweight. After seeing him fight Ancajas and beat him twice, I just knew he had the makings of a great champion, and this unification solidified his status.

If he moves on to the higher division, he has a chance to win titles. I'm sure after a few defenses, he will move to the Bantamweight division and become a champion there; he has the makings of a superstar. I just wonder if he will have a chance to meet Inoue one day.

I'm locking this thread now. I'm sure this 2024 we'll see tough fights for Martinez. Thank you to all who participated in this discussion.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 07, 2024, 10:47:53 AM

For the latest updates on this fight Martinez won via unanimous decision, I agree with Martinez winning the fight but what I will not agree with is how the judges came out with this kind of scoring 120-108, 117-111, and 116-112 the fight is too close to have a scoring gap like this and what it worse for Ioka is the fight was held in Japan this is disrespectful to the Japanese boxing fans.

Even this article did not agree with how the judges scored the fight.

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By the time the twelfth round rolled around, both fighters looked like they’d been through a war, trading blows that should have balanced the books. But according to our blind-as-bats judges, Martinez was in a league of his own. A convincing win? More like a great illusion. I scored the fight a draw.

Source: The Night Of Questionable Judging: Fernando Martinez Crowned Amid Controversy - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/07/fernando-martinez-confident-in-tokyo-showdown-against-kazuto-ioka/)

Thanks for the update OP, I forget about this fight but we have a big upset as it could be the first time in recent months or years that we have seen a big upset. And I thought that Martinez is not going to win but I guess everyone is wrong here who picks Ioka to win based on his experience and having the home crowd behind him.

And I just the judges are not willing to give Ioka the fight and there are no biases here. For sure Martinez will go home very happy and emotional as he is now a unified champion and him beating Ancajas is no fluke after all as he upset another great champion. For sure Jesse Rodriguez now the WBC champion is willing to put his title on the line against Martinez here, the IBF and WBA champion and it's going to be war in this fight.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 07, 2024, 10:47:53 AM

For the latest updates on this fight Martinez won via unanimous decision, I agree with Martinez winning the fight but what I will not agree with is how the judges came out with this kind of scoring 120-108, 117-111, and 116-112 the fight is too close to have a scoring gap like this and what it worse for Ioka is the fight was held in Japan this is disrespectful to the Japanese boxing fans.

Even this article did not agree with how the judges scored the fight.

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By the time the twelfth round rolled around, both fighters looked like they’d been through a war, trading blows that should have balanced the books. But according to our blind-as-bats judges, Martinez was in a league of his own. A convincing win? More like a great illusion. I scored the fight a draw.

Source: The Night Of Questionable Judging: Fernando Martinez Crowned Amid Controversy - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/07/fernando-martinez-confident-in-tokyo-showdown-against-kazuto-ioka/)

I wasn't able to watch the full fight, but he really throws a lot and his volume punching really swayed the judges to his favor. Too bad for the Japanese, there was no home cook decision for him as obviously he had lost the fight as from first round based on the highlight video in Youtube.

So congrats to those who bet on the underdog, and it seems that we have seen a lot of underdogs winning in the second half of the year.

Next could be a great fight between Bam Rodriguez vs Puma Martinez.

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For the latest updates on this fight Martinez won via unanimous decision, I agree with Martinez winning the fight but what I will not agree with is how the judges came out with this kind of scoring 120-108, 117-111, and 116-112 the fight is too close to have a scoring gap like this and what it worse for Ioka is the fight was held in Japan this is disrespectful to the Japanese boxing fans.

Even this article did not agree with how the judges scored the fight.

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By the time the twelfth round rolled around, both fighters looked like they’d been through a war, trading blows that should have balanced the books. But according to our blind-as-bats judges, Martinez was in a league of his own. A convincing win? More like a great illusion. I scored the fight a draw.

Source: The Night Of Questionable Judging: Fernando Martinez Crowned Amid Controversy - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/07/fernando-martinez-confident-in-tokyo-showdown-against-kazuto-ioka/)

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 06, 2024, 05:27:22 AM

As per Stake, Ioka is the slight favorite 1.66 against Martinez at 2.23.

The over is round 10.5, so it means that this fight might go to distance and go to the judges score card and if that happens they maybe Martinez is at a slight disadvantage as the fight is going to be held in Japan.

So it's good if Martinez is going to go for a KO at 7.40.

I'm sure Martinez had it in his mind; he cannot be too complacent and allow the bout to end in a decision. It could end in a decision, but he must be the one dominating the fight.

Ioka is very popular in Japan, being one of their multi-title champions, so he is a sentimental favorite here. Still, I feel that Martinez can dominate the fight just like he did against Ancajas, who was considered the top dog in that division, so let's see who will win tomorrow.

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As per Stake, Ioka is the slight favorite 1.66 against Martinez at 2.23.

The over is round 10.5, so it means that this fight might go to distance and go to the judges score card and if that happens they maybe Martinez is at a slight disadvantage as the fight is going to be held in Japan.

So it's good if Martinez is going to go for a KO at 7.40.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 22, 2024, 08:18:27 PM

Voted for Ioka to win by decision.

Though Martinez is the younger of the two fighters, i think the experience and Ioka will be a factor going into this fight. I observed that Ioka is improving in his last few fights and with this fight to be in his home turf, he will show to his countrymen what he is made of.

And lately, Japanese fighters have been carrying this big momentum as they have a lot of world champion lead by Inoue. And in this case, Ioka will want to continue with that tradition fighting at their home turf and we haven't seen a Japanese lost in their home soil for the last couple of years.

So yes, I will also go with Ioka here, too big and that experience in world fight will carry him all the way if the fight goes to distance. But I think Martinez will make this fight very close but Ioka getting the win in the scorecard here.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 22, 2024, 08:18:27 PM

Voted for Ioka to win by decision.

Though Martinez is the younger of the two fighters, i think the experience and Ioka will be a factor going into this fight. I observed that Ioka is improving in his last few fights and with this fight to be in his home turf, he will show to his countrymen what he is made of.

Yeah, it seems that as Ioka is getting older, he is also getting sharper as the years goes by. And probably in his previous fights against some great names, he had some good experience with it. Although I would love to see him and Nakatani before for unification but it didn't happen probably because both are Japanese.

Martinez is known to be the one that breaks Ancajas twice and Jerwin was not the same anymore after the beating that he get from Martinez. So he has a tall order here, because as you have said, he will travel to Japan and it's Ioka's home turf and it's very hard to win in Japan unless Martinez is going to knockout their champion so that judges can't manipulate the results.

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Voted for Ioka to win by decision.

Though Martinez is the younger of the two fighters, i think the experience and Ioka will be a factor going into this fight. I observed that Ioka is improving in his last few fights and with this fight to be in his home turf, he will show to his countrymen what he is made of.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 21, 2024, 02:22:50 PM

Martinez is the most likely to win. Because if you check the stats, he is young, and driven by the passion to get the victory that will make a difference in his career. While on the other hand, Ioka who already has his moment in the ring with a lot of wins under his bet may not be as motivated as his opponent. Ioka is almost at the end of his career and you know how it is, the drive is down.

You won't know, it's the experience that counts besides that Ioka's last fights are all win and the most recent one fight was a KO means he can still give a decent fight to a younger one. His fights were also in regular matching like he fights twice a year, unlike Martinez who just fights mostly once a year so the odds were probably not that hight between them.

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Outside of his wins against Ancajas, the names on Martinez’s record are pretty unremarkable. Ioka undoubtedly has the benefit of being more experienced and having faced much better competition. Japanese fighters have been dominating the lower divisions and I think Ioka will further consolidate this dominance. It is extremely rare for a Japanese fighter to lose in Japan, I don’t really expect Martinez to be the one who can break this trend.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 22, 2024, 05:30:00 AM

Ioka is a slight favorite, probably because the venue is in Japan, but I think I would bet on Martinez to win as he beat Ancajas twice, so that says he is really a quality boxer. He also have some power though, 9 KOs in 16 fights, so I hope he'll be able to win by KO so he would not worry anymore of a possiblity of being cheated.

I'll also go for Martinez, Ancajas is considered the Philippines' new crop of top fighters and to beat him unanimously shows how good you are, Martinez is a real slugger he loves to slug it out so the fight is going to be a slug fest between the two and based on my analysis Martinez will come out a better slugger because he has quick hands compared to Ioka who picks his punches.

Ioka has a good chance if he chooses a tactical method and don't allow himself to engage. in his fight against Donnie Nietes he showed patience against a highly technical Nietes, but I'm sure Martinez will dare him to slug it out just like what he did against Ancajas.

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Quote from: Jating on June 22, 2024, 05:18:47 AM

I haven't seen the odds yet, but I speculate that Ioka will be the slight favorite here.

Maybe it's not listed in sportsbook yet but you can see here https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/kazuto-ioka-v-fernando-daniel-martinez/winner
Ioka is a slight favorite, probably because the venue is in Japan, but I think I would bet on Martinez to win as he beat Ancajas twice, so that says he is really a quality boxer. He also have some power though, 9 KOs in 16 fights, so I hope he'll be able to win by KO so he would not worry anymore of a possiblity of being cheated.

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I voted for Kazuto Ioka By Decision.

Even if Kazuto is old as per boxing standard, Martinez is not that young anymore at 32 years old. Kazuto has more experience and probably face a lot of great champions throughout his career and so that experience will play a big role in this fight.

And then as what other Japanese fighters are, they chooses to fight in their country and so Ioka has that one big advantage as well as he is going to be very confident fighting at his own backyard.

I haven't seen the odds yet, but I speculate that Ioka will be the slight favorite here.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 21, 2024, 02:22:50 PM

Martinez is the most likely to win. Because if you check the stats, he is young, and driven by the passion to get the victory that will make a difference in his career. While on the other hand, Ioka who already has his moment in the ring with a lot of wins under his bet may not be as motivated as his opponent. Ioka is almost at the end of his career and you know how it is, the drive is down. I hope I am correct with my analysis and that Martinez gives me a winning bet. If he wins, he will be held in high regards by fellow country men, Matthysse and Maidana.

Good, make a beat on Martinez because he is the underdog here as Ioka is the slight favorite at 1.69 against Martinez 2.08. And it's true that Filipinos won't forget "Pumita" as he beat Jerwin Ancajas twice, first he get his belt and in the rematch, he dominated Ancajas and Jerwin was not the same anymore as he lost to Takuma Inoue, and he is 1-3 in his last 4 fights.

And it will be great if the winner of this fight will fight the winner of Bam Rodriguez vs Juan Francisco Estrada, another great fight at Super Flyweight. So let's see how this fight will, obviously Fernando Martinez will have to travel to Japan, but he is no stranger in fighter everywhere and probably he likes to go to the champions backyard and beat them in front of their fans.

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Martinez is the most likely to win. Because if you check the stats, he is young, and driven by the passion to get the victory that will make a difference in his career. While on the other hand, Ioka who already has his moment in the ring with a lot of wins under his bet may not be as motivated as his opponent. Ioka is almost at the end of his career and you know how it is, the drive is down. I hope I am correct with my analysis and that Martinez gives me a winning bet. If he wins, he will be held in high regards by fellow country men, Matthysse and Maidana.

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This unification bout is something to watch out for because they are the best boxers in the super Lightweight champion, this is Ioka's 26th title fight making him the favorite between the two, but Martinez has proven himself the best champion in the division, having beaten Ancajas twice to wrestle the title.
Besides, between the two, he is the undefeated here.

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An agreement in principle has been reached to stage the junior bantamweight title unification bout pitting Japan’s longtime champion Kazuto Ioka versus Argentina’s Fernando Martinez in Japan for the first week of July, an official connected to the negotiation told Boxing Scene on Thursday.

Martinez, 32, became IBF champion by defeating Jerwin Ancajas of the Philippines in 2022, a triumph he backed up with another unanimous decision victory eight months later.

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