Topic: Is betsoft blackjack rigged? (Read 2870 times)

Provably fair is to the players, some gambling websites can manipulate the result, there were so many such scam sites since 2013, some sites stole the house fund, they claimed hacker did it. But actually it is the site owner did it.

I personally boycoitt any betsoft implenting site. Their bj wouldn't be any different than their other games which are definitely rigged. Do note that Blackjack can also be rigged despite being provably fair.

Yes, Betcoin.ag scam! plus Betsoft scam gaming software = rigged blackjack! This is simple math!

They also refused to pay slot jackpot for huge money, betsoft looks scam, I think you guys should never play blackjack of betsoft product.

BETSOFT was busted years before that of running a rigged keno game. The video is on youtube.

They are already tested by many gamblers and honestly many complaining about their games of betsoft last year there is a game from one of the gambling site here that someone win a huge amount from a new games release and we do not know honestly the bug instead of paying the exact winning amount they paid only the partial and betsoft owner or maker are giving apology that honestly there are fraudulent happen..
So be careful with their games that is why betking remove those games in his site and only dice game is there..

I agree... RIGGED!

I've played over 5000 hands on it and it probably has around 50.4-50.6% edge.

its not only blackack but all ames on betsoft sure. dont play

Of coarse the return is not high otherwise they will be handing out free money. How can you tell from playing so few games that it is rigged or not ! That's not nresrlly enough of an evaluation. These games should be tested by a company that publically tests gambling games to verify them or not.

Betsoft has been busted in the past rigging their games. They are as shady as they come.

But there is no way to verify you are telling the truth and you have the ability to change the odds in your favor for any game. Make your games provably fair and then tell us it is fair. What regulations are you following? Who has audited your website? Where is your gambling certification to operate in my country? Because you can't operate without one. And they will review your website.

Well, if they are bitcoin based you can't trust nobody then.

Yes it is. You have the ability to change the odds inside the script to earn 80% of the money gambled. I contacted betsoft and they told me. If the websites are not regulated by your country legislation and no one verifies them then they are scamming you.

Im addicted to Blackjack and only play at one site at the present moment any free chips to test out your casino ? I lost all my mine yesterday but will be getting more soon.

Betsoft games and RNG have been through a rigorous test and certification process to ensure that the games are fair. They are not "provably fair" but they are definitely fair.

At Cloudbet we carry Betsoft RNG blackjack games, but also a live dealer offering. You can speak with the dealer to ensure the games are delivered in realtime, and the pit boss will display all cards to the players when they are changed so you can be certain that the games are fair.

Cheers,
Cloudbet

Of course its rigged how else would the casinos survive if you dont have stupid ass mugs to play.

Everyone as long as win thinks it is fair and when looses first thought what comes in mind is may be it was rigged.

Well explained and I will add little more by saying on almost many site at start you just win quite few hands till they win your trust and after that suddenly boom and you always end at loss if you don't stop after few hands.

If you really did win a big amount like that on this software then no longer play again. Find a different provider for blackjack because like I say it is very shady of Betsoft not to provide your complete hand history to customer. Any reputable casino/provider will send you a text file of your hand history. Not always easy to read but they will give you the data. Go ahead try to ask betcoin and see if they will obtain your history of hands from Betsoft. If they do that is great the casino I play at says its not possible. Therefore I will not play this again because I'd like to analyze my play and check data myself for irregularities because now I have logged thousands of hands on this software blackjack and I tell you something seems way off. I expect to lose long-term but fact is I've lost several btc on small bets at this and when I do hit a run it wont last long and dealer always goes to beast mode until all the chips are gone. I enjoy playing blackjack but what I don't enjoy is getting cheated by rigged software.

LOL you are stupid for someone that bet big btc. Just because you win that doesnt win it is not rigged and even if it is rigged they will not rig everyone because they need winner too or no one will be playing there anymore LOL

The rigging is done by Proprietary Rigging Software backed by High Level Artificial Intelligence. It detects that you are a highroller (yes, right before you even sign up) and makes the first bet a win. So the player's psychology approves the site, and he will always be tempted to make another bet and another and another... till all his funds become theirs.  

jk. Not meant to be taken seriously./size]

lmao, I bet on betcoin, betting limit is from 1mbtc - 5000mbtc, if you wanna play there, I can send the link to you by PM, if you can be my downline, I can offer rakeback and lossback to you.

I played 3 large hands there,  i won twice for 3 btc per hand, lost 1 hand, I think should be fair, not rigged, if it is rigged, I can easily lose 3 hands.

Yeah I'm definitely done with these blackjack games because I've never been denied getting a hand history file from gaming sites when I've requested and betsoft will not distribute the hands to the player unless there is an error. What exactly are they trying to hide?  I requested my hand history from the casino I play at these games and they deny me access because the game provider will not give to customer lol. Well that about tells me they may be rigging the blackjack or they would be transparent and provide if customer wanted.

This is so stupid...because you won 3btc suddenly its fair when you questioned it in the first place. Where are you able to bet 3btc on the betsoft single deck game because where I've seen it the limits are 1-100mbtc. I've never seen anywhere that has high limits on this game.  

I've been playing this alot lately and I'm really starting to question myself if its legit. Being single deck with decent rules to the player the house edge is a mere .33% yet somehow playing perfect basic strategy I'm down several BTC and remember the limits are only 100mbtc maximum bet. I mostly bet in the 5-20 chip range. Now I don't always lose I do come out ahead on some sessions but it goes into some beast modes where you won't make any hands and when you do dealer will always draw out to 20-21 and have many blackjacks.

I'm done playing anymore Betsoft table games because I suspect somethings not right and it rigs the deal. I've been playing online blackjack for 15 years and overall I expect to lose of course but its how this game accomplishes you losing in such a fast manner when it goes into its beast mode. It's done it far to often where I deposit .5-1btc and the game goes into rage mode and eats your balance up quickly.

Try betsoft single deck in fun mode and many times you will win so quickly so easy then try it many hands also in real mode and you tell me its not rigged.

I will stick to the microgaming single deck blackjack even though I don't like the european no hole card it also has better odds because dealer doesn't hit soft 17.

LOL, i won't keep playing cause I just wanna make easy money since I lost big bet on US Open, I lost 5btc in first round parlay, damn unlucky so many good players lost the match in round 1 and 2.

So I am still down 1.7btc now, (-5+3+0.3---0.3 was won from other bets = -1.7BTC)

LOL WHAT?

Just because you won one hand, doesn't mean the site is rigged.  I've won large amounts on sites that are totally unfair - they have to let you win some time, so you keep playing....

Hi, guys, i bet 3btc in one hand, and I won it!!!!!!!!!!!  I think it is fair cause if it is rigged so I can't win a big bet.

This game must be fair, and betsoft is one of the best supplier, no doubt.  

No, I mean online casino can manipulate the result if you bet large per hand, it is not like real casino. So big bets won't win if they are rigged.

Did those people provide any proof?

No, Right? So, you're going to believe a bunch of sore losers, who can't accept their losses. Besides thats pretty common in the gambling industry.

What did I just read? You will consider it fair if you win a lot in one hand and won't otherwise?
You stupid casino people let me win! If not then you're rigged!

I tend to not play blackjack online at all. Even Nitrogensports recently had a lot of speculation about being rigged. And its hard to know despite being provably fair. Nitrogen is provably fair but despite that people seem to complain about it.

Don't gamble unless it's provably fair, and don't trust provably fair systems unless you follow all the necessary steps to do so.

Fair has nothing to do with winning or losing the bet though. The "fair" words in the Industry standard around here means that the ability for you to check your own bet and verify the house doesnt cheat you which is why provably fair is totally the standard around here


Code , possibly No but server seed yes but still better than none provably fair site without the ability to verify your own bet


So why are you even bother posting in this section? Everything in this section is online gambling though 


Another note, change your client seed frequently.

That is incorrect.

The casino could not pay you, but you could verify that the casino is lying by taking note of the client and server seed and the nonce.

Some fishy dice casinos in the past skipped nonces and players lost their money, they were discovered and ran with all the money.

They obviously can. For example on some sites owners might rig rolls for people who don't ever bother to change their seeds while betting each time , but if they are identified, they will not have any reputation and people will likely never play on it.

On provably fair sites, the gamblers could and should always verify their bets. If they notice something doesn't match, such as nonce skipping on dicebitco.in, they will know the site is scamming.

Even if a site says 'provably fair', can't they just alter some code without anyone knowing? Don't trust any online gambling service... It's like playing a computerized slot machine in a real casino...

I think that depends on the number of decks involved.


If thats the case then there is no reason to be playing on the site. Doubting a site which is not provably fair is not worth wasting time on.

I don't think we can change our seed on betsoft BJ, cause they don't show us fairness of the game, and we can't verify it. So i can't change my seed.

Well,depends if you feel like a lucky guy or not,how do you feel?

I don't think the BJ house edge is actually 0.2 to 0.3%. More like more than triple that. At least that is what I thought..

We will never know, and that's why it is always better to play on provably fair games. At least, we will know after we have been scammed.

I have read about ways how casinos can make it rigged by setting it up in a way that user who doesn't change his seed might lose many hands in the start and his bets will be provably fair. Maybe you cna try changing your seed and do the test again.

How do you think? I played betsoft single deck blackjack but the expected return is not high, I followed the basic strategy to play, so the expected return of single deck BJ should be 99.7%-99.8%(house edge lower than 0.3%)

Any guys have experience on betsoft BJ? Is it rigged?  Cause we can't verify by ourselves, so I think they may be rigged, unless I won many btc in ONE hand so I will consider it is fair.