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Quote from: zachamo on June 14, 2013, 01:08:52 PM

Lab Rat visited BFL the other day and posted some details of his visit:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3214-first-single-sc-60gh-s-has-left-building.html
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/3226-my-visit-bfl-hq.html

He also posted some pictures - of which 2 appear to show miner tests where the miners are connected to Eclipse mining pool..
http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/Lab__Rat/library/?sort=3&page=1

Caught red-handed?

Only for people that can't read, the thread is about mining at 50BTC.com not at eclipsemc.com

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There can be only one!

Lab Rat visited BFL the other day and posted some details of his visit:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3214-first-single-sc-60gh-s-has-left-building.html
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/3226-my-visit-bfl-hq.html

He also posted some pictures - of which 2 appear to show miner tests where the miners are connected to Eclipse mining pool..
http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/Lab__Rat/library/?sort=3&page=1

Caught red-handed?

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I never said that. I said they should use test net and you didn't know why. Now you ask another question. You didn't even know who they were.

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Quote from: bitpop on June 12, 2013, 02:58:36 AM

Bfl and ethical because they cant be accused of delaying orders to mine.

So you have some proof to back your claim of Butterfly Labs delaying orders to mine?

I didn't think so.

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Bfl and ethical because they cant be accused of delaying orders to mine.

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Quote from: bitpop on June 12, 2013, 02:01:52 AM

and why cant they use test net and be ethical?

Who is "they" and why would a test net be ethical?

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and why cant they use test net and be ethical?

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Why does BFL bring out all the stupid?

They can't test the chips without testing on main-net? I guess that's why they claimed that they'd never mine on the main-net right?

They won't mine on any pool except eclipse? I guess since they apparently lied about never testing chips on the main-net, they'd never do anything dishonest like hiding the hashing power they're putting on the net or anything.

I'm not saying that this is BFL on 50btc, but at least make sense about it.

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Lol that's isn't them. They aren't that cocky, very close though. Its called disinformation.

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Quote from: Luciddd on June 11, 2013, 07:33:50 PM

To try and suggest BFL isn't mining BTC while "testing" is just stupid. They have to test the product fully in an actual mining environment. Besides the shady practices they have shown, this is perfectly okay and they make some BTC on the side.

That's not what is being claimed, the claim is that a user called BFL on 50BTC.com is Butterfly Labs, and I see no proof of that.

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To try and suggest BFL isn't mining BTC while "testing" is just stupid. They have to test the product fully in an actual mining environment. Besides the shady practices they have shown, this is perfectly okay and they make some BTC on the side.

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Quote from: Malawi on June 11, 2013, 06:43:42 AM

Quote from: bitpop on June 09, 2013, 01:19:30 PM

Wrong they solo mine, why would they leave trails at a pool Huh

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/large-bitcoin-mining-farm-mining-4-blocks-a-day-having-made-1600btc-226803

Spreading hashing power over several pools/usernames/btc-addresses together with some solo-mining would be the best way to conceal a large hashing-operation. (If one wanted to conceal it that is.)

You wouldn't even bother, you would just tick private in the list of top miners in the pool instead of typing BFL.

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All you need is 100 instances of p2pool

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Quote from: bitpop on June 09, 2013, 01:19:30 PM

Wrong they solo mine, why would they leave trails at a pool Huh

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/large-bitcoin-mining-farm-mining-4-blocks-a-day-having-made-1600btc-226803

Spreading hashing power over several pools/usernames/btc-addresses together with some solo-mining would be the best way to conceal a large hashing-operation. (If one wanted to conceal it that is.)

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Quote from: bitpop on June 09, 2013, 01:19:30 PM

Wrong they solo mine, why would they leave trails at a pool Huh

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/large-bitcoin-mining-farm-mining-4-blocks-a-day-having-made-1600btc-226803

That link it BS people making wild guesses.

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Wrong they solo mine, why would they leave trails at a pool Huh

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/large-bitcoin-mining-farm-mining-4-blocks-a-day-having-made-1600btc-226803

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Quote from: erk on June 06, 2013, 04:25:39 AM

Quote from: bcpokey on June 06, 2013, 03:48:48 AM

Quote from: erk on June 06, 2013, 02:42:08 AM

BFL use eclipsemc.com when live testing.

BFL isn't supposed to do any live-testing, so to say that they "use" Josh's pool when testing is just an assumption on your part.

It's not and assumption at all, it's clearly observable in their product videos and screen shots they have released.

I would certainly hope they have done substantial live testing on all model prototypes at least. I don't want an unproven product.

U are a total idiot ...

There is a thing called the test net

Master BFL SHill

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Ya, Bfly does it again Grin

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Quote from: bcpokey on June 06, 2013, 03:48:48 AM

Quote from: erk on June 06, 2013, 02:42:08 AM

BFL use eclipsemc.com when live testing.

BFL isn't supposed to do any live-testing, so to say that they "use" Josh's pool when testing is just an assumption on your part.

Wake up...SEE the evidence before your eyes. The link I post is to a Update post by Josh ON the BFL Forum. Open the pic, click again and it will enlarge. Now can you SEE that they are mining @ eclipse ON the network and not on the Test net like promised.

No ASSumptions necessary.

Edit: to add, scroll to bottom of page, last post, that pic.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html

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Quote from: bcpokey on June 06, 2013, 03:48:48 AM

Quote from: erk on June 06, 2013, 02:42:08 AM

BFL use eclipsemc.com when live testing.

BFL isn't supposed to do any live-testing, so to say that they "use" Josh's pool when testing is just an assumption on your part.

It's not and assumption at all, it's clearly observable in their product videos and screen shots they have released.

I would certainly hope they have done substantial live testing on all model prototypes at least. I don't want an unproven product.

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Quote from: erk on June 06, 2013, 02:42:08 AM

BFL use eclipsemc.com when live testing.

BFL isn't supposed to do any live-testing, so to say that they "use" Josh's pool when testing is just an assumption on your part.

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BFL use eclipsemc.com when live testing.

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50BTC pool has the concept of teams, and recently one team, avalonchina, was adding hashing power to the pool, like there is no tomorrow (currently at 1,316,183 MH/s and counting). I got curious and cheecked who the members of that team are an how much the contribute individually. What surprised me was that the top contributor is called simply BFL. Now is it Butterfly Labs testing their units prior to shipping, or just some random guy with a lot of batch 1 Avalon miners spreading some smoke cover?

The team's stats page: https://50btc.com/teams/view/3193

Top 10 contributors (speed is in MH/s):
Rank Name Speed Shares Blocks found ----------------------------------------------------- 1 BFL 557010 2908973 24 2 Anonymous 274497 798142 6 3 starsky 119191 2358807 18 Admin 4 Anonymous 72968 64310186 10 5 Anonymous 69407 61216 0 6 Anonymous 69254 530615 4 7 zhaodong 46806 203699 2 8 chengqp 17257 393520 0 9 Anonymous 8275 39180 0 10 Tran Van Huong 7686 1407553 0

An interesting observation is the hashing power required to find a somewhat noticeable number of blocks (aka solo mining at this speed might be profitable).

Another interesting observation is the number of members in the team. Avalonchina has 344 members churning out 1,316,183 MH/s, while the runner-up, overclockers.ru (who historically were always in the lead) have 7170 members churning out "only" 874,336 MH/s.

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