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I like to grade players into Top, Great and World class. I will put Hazard into the top category, he won a couple of league titles, won a UCL but with minimal involvement. Personally he lightened up the EPL for some seasons and was almost unplayable on his day. His move to Madrid was the decisive one for his career, if he would have been able to replicate what he did at Chelsea consistently at Spain and in the Champions league he would have been able to squeeze into the "great" category, he unfortunately got hit with injuries and never recovered physically or mentally.

My great player list will have names like Iniesta, Lewandoski, Sergio Ramos, etc. With world class, the list is very light.

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So should hazard be considered as one who ended his football career great? Brought this here so we can discuss about it and get to educated others too.

Eden Hazard is one player who will definitely always be remembered by Chelsea fans, he gave everything he had for Chelsea when facing their opponents. Not only for Chelsea, even Hazard will always be remembered by Leicester City fans, because his goal, Leicester could become champions in the top league for the first time. So, he's a great player, but with what he has done lately, I don't think we can put him in the category of great players who finished his career well.

So sad for Hazard. He would have explored other clubs since things didn’t go well with him at Real Madrid as expected. Rather he was comfortable with n being on the bench earning salary and other carrying him to win trophies. Now Madrid ended forcefully getting rid of him and at that point he didn't believe in himself trying another chapter of his career. Rather he ended up retiring. So many people expect more from hazard. But man didn’t live up to that expectations
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Without any doubt hazard can be considered a Chelsea legend. He did great things during his Chelsea career.
One can be consider a football great base on their achievements in football.

- Only 10 champions league goals
- No international trophies
- No goals in a full calendar year twice

So should hazard be considered as one who ended his football career great? Brought this here so we can discuss about it and get to educated others too.

You raise some basic points about Hazard's skills and criteria for being called a "player". It is described as a "great footballer", though league goals and international trophies might not match those of some, especially the players. His time at Chelsea has brought him incredible performance and consistency. He was instrumental for the club by winning two titles for Premier League and FA Cup and League Cup during his time in the club.

It should be taken into account that respect can be personal and can also come from the context of a player's contribution to the team and to the game. For many Chelsea fans Hazard's ability to change games with his skill and creativity is the foundation of his legacy. Furthermore, some players may be more prominent in club football than in international competition. This does not necessarily lower one's status.

Really top player for a number of years at Chelsea but a football great?

No chance, he had the chance to show how good he was at Real but got fat, frequently injured and looked disinterested. Had the potential to be an all timer but didn’t fulfil it.

Some people said it was a wrong decision for him going to Real Madrid. But then we all know how big of a football club Real Madrid is and as a player who wants to achieve more in their career chooses to play for real Madrid. In fact it is the dream of so many young rising starts to play for Real Madrid. But in the case of hazard. It didn’t Favour him. He ended his career early than thought.

It is true that to most players, joining such a club as historic and influential as Real Madrid is a dream come true, but in real life, it is quite overwhelming to take up the mantle of expectations that come along with the move. Not every player succeeds in that environment and not all could handle the pressure it brings.

With Hazard, the injuries somehow seemed to be part of the issue in his tenure at Real Madrid as he could not give his all. He was and, by most accounts still is, but for some reason, something was somehow bugging him significantly enough to affect his game. Sometimes even one of the greats can suffer from problems that we least expect, which changes everything about their careers.

It would be even more interesting if we could discuss the causes behind making a player fail or succeed after such a move. Is it that the pressures of performing for a big club like Real Is Madrid are more than what some players can handle? Why? Or is it more about the balance that the player should fit the type of game the team is accustomed to?

Hazard I think was the the reason to why his career ended the way it did. Even after finding it difficult to fit in to Real Madrid play style. He should have explored other options. Rather the staying at Real Madrid. To the extent that Real Madrid has to forcefully get rid of him.
Now this discussion is becoming more interesting. Not just about hazard but what about other players this seems to be the reason why most careers ends even before they started.


Let me point out few things that I think could be the reasons to why players moving to another club either ends their career or make them successful. You’ve already listed some which is “pressure, environment, the pattern of football being played.

Pressure - this sometimes makes players to be unstable mentally and physically. As a result of every is expecting you as a player to prove your worth, especially if a player was signed with a huge amount of fee. Both the clubs and the fans expect you perform at a higher level. Individual there are people who doesn’t need an environment where there’s lot of pressure. When this happens they end up being unstable mentally and physically.

So if you don’t mind. I’ll love you talk about how environment can also affect a player. Since this is a discussion. I want it to be an interactive discussion. Thank you sir
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I think this is a discussion going on here. I didn't login in to see the noise on that but for me he doesn't have that pedigree to compare with the likes of the Chelsea legends. Though good on the ball but wasn't outstanding at such for that kind of recommendation.

I agreed with you. It’s just that lot of people just watch football without really having much knowledge about football. Some watch to support a particular player or maybe a club. Football knowledge is wide. I think Lampard has more of what it take being a football great and also a chelsea legend.
The disappointment part of the hazard transfer to Madrid was that. So many people were looking forward to hazard achieving even more joining such a great club. But then things turned out for the worse for him.
So sad he ended his career early than expected
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Without any doubt hazard can be considered a Chelsea legend. He did great things during his Chelsea career.
One can be consider a football great base on their achievements in football.

- Only 10 champions league goals
- No international trophies
- No goals in a full calendar year twice

So should hazard be considered as one who ended his football career great? Brought this here so we can discuss about it and get to educated others too.

You raise some basic points about Hazard's skills and criteria for being called a "player". It is described as a "great footballer", though league goals and international trophies might not match those of some, especially the players. His time at Chelsea has brought him incredible performance and consistency. He was instrumental for the club by winning two titles for Premier League and FA Cup and League Cup during his time in the club.

It should be taken into account that respect can be personal and can also come from the context of a player's contribution to the team and to the game. For many Chelsea fans Hazard's ability to change games with his skill and creativity is the foundation of his legacy. Furthermore, some players may be more prominent in club football than in international competition. This does not necessarily lower one's status.

Really top player for a number of years at Chelsea but a football great?

No chance, he had the chance to show how good he was at Real but got fat, frequently injured and looked disinterested. Had the potential to be an all timer but didn’t fulfil it.

Some people said it was a wrong decision for him going to Real Madrid. But then we all know how big of a football club Real Madrid is and as a player who wants to achieve more in their career chooses to play for real Madrid. In fact it is the dream of so many young rising starts to play for Real Madrid. But in the case of hazard. It didn’t Favour him. He ended his career early than thought.

It is true that to most players, joining such a club as historic and influential as Real Madrid is a dream come true, but in real life, it is quite overwhelming to take up the mantle of expectations that come along with the move. Not every player succeeds in that environment and not all could handle the pressure it brings.

With Hazard, the injuries somehow seemed to be part of the issue in his tenure at Real Madrid as he could not give his all. He was and, by most accounts still is, but for some reason, something was somehow bugging him significantly enough to affect his game. Sometimes even one of the greats can suffer from problems that we least expect, which changes everything about their careers.

It would be even more interesting if we could discuss the causes behind making a player fail or succeed after such a move. Is it that the pressures of performing for a big club like Real Is Madrid are more than what some players can handle? Why? Or is it more about the balance that the player should fit the type of game the team is accustomed to?
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Really top player for a number of years at Chelsea but a football great?

No chance, he had the chance to show how good he was at Real but got fat, frequently injured and looked disinterested. Had the potential to be an all timer but didn’t fulfil it.

Some people said it was a wrong decision for him going to Real Madrid. But then we all know how big of a football club Real Madrid is and as a player who wants to achieve more in their career chooses to play for real Madrid. In fact it is the dream of so many young rising starts to play for Real Madrid. But in the case of hazard. It didn’t Favour him. He ended his career early than thought.
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So should hazard be considered as one who ended his football career great? Brought this here so we can discuss about it and get to educated others too.

Eden Hazard is one player who will definitely always be remembered by Chelsea fans, he gave everything he had for Chelsea when facing their opponents. Not only for Chelsea, even Hazard will always be remembered by Leicester City fans, because his goal, Leicester could become champions in the top league for the first time. So, he's a great player, but with what he has done lately, I don't think we can put him in the category of great players who finished his career well.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/nziohw/question_do_you_consider_eden_hazard_as_a_chelsea/?rdt=43691

I think this is a discussion going on here. I didn't login in to see the noise on that but for me he doesn't have that pedigree to compare with the likes of the Chelsea legends. Though good on the ball but wasn't outstanding at such for that kind of recommendation.
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Really top player for a number of years at Chelsea but a football great?

No chance, he had the chance to show how good he was at Real but got fat, frequently injured and looked disinterested. Had the potential to be an all timer but didn’t fulfil it.
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Without any doubt hazard can be considered a Chelsea legend. He did great things during his Chelsea career.
One can be consider a football great base on their achievements in football.

- Only 10 champions league goals
- No international trophies
- No goals in a full calendar year twice

So should hazard be considered as one who ended his football career great? Brought this here so we can discuss about it and get to educated others too.
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