Topic: Is franky1 a shill? (Read 2482 times)

Stupid thread. Leave franky alone. The guy is pretty smart, whether you agree with his wishes or not.

There you have it. A statement that has zero relevance to mine, because I've pointed out two irrefutable points. You keep going in circle with your false knowledge and thereby you are actively trying to deceive newbies in the main section. This is shameful behavior at best.

lauda

you are the one mis informed.

just because you now have a commit(for spellchecking) so pretend you have a blockstream rep name badge of honour, so you think you are as good as a real dev,

yet every time i ask you to prove anything. you play word games to evade,
you have been caught running to IRC to seek what to say next

you have admitted you dont know c++
you have admitted you cant read more then a couple paragraphs.

so go on...
explain how segwit activation means you get the utopian promise land of fixes,

because you keep thinking its all about the activation. but never understand the whole:
users moving funds to segwit keys = only disarming those who move funds =not the whole network = not a 100% fix = not a 100% promise = half baked gesture

as for me having no sleep pattern for you and carlton to have 8-10 hours of chance to insult as much as you like at a predictable timezone.

1. i travel the world so somedays i sleep when its your morning or your afternoon or your evening,
2. sometimes if im inflight or on the move i do go 48 hours without sleep or sleep for only a couple hours at a time

so you cannot pre-predict when you can have 10 hours to insult and not be refutted for 10 hours to pretend you have won due to lack of reply

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oh look it is about the crap you mention

please spend more time learning about bitcoin. it will help you
you have no excuse not to learn

You're mistaken with creating a single variant of a 'shill'. There are many types of shills. [1] In the case of franky1, we are talking about an individual (or multiple individuals) who is constantly (and by constantly I mean that there are cases of almost non-stop posting for >24 hours) spreading false or pseudo-knowledge. Additionally, there are shill accounts which are used by multiple people. [2] This can be observed by a strong oscillation in the language skills and posting behavior. [1] & [2] both apply to franky1. Whether that definitely makes him a shill is up to you to decide.

False knowledge == informative. +1.

This is a completely different issue on this problem. All the Bitcointalk staff is either aware of this, or their IQ is sub-average. Nothing is being done to combat this. You can make up your own opinions as to why that is.

i understand that he could be payed to post, there are some user here that without signature earn a lot just by spamming other shit equal to what signature poster post

but is everyone which has a different idea from your a paid shill, now? i see that some members must find a reason to the fact that they are think they are always right and the other are wrong

by this logic everyone could be a paid shill here

yep

the main concern.. quadratics..
by enforcing nodes reject blocks that allow transactions to contain more than say 4k sigops per tx

as for malleability and many methods of fooling the receiver into thinking they might get paid before its confirmed.

can both be dealt with on native keys if there were the right bits of code added to new nodes via a full node+pool(hard fork) consensus upgrade of the network

sidenote: i can think of many many more ways that i can fool a receiver into thinking they are gonna get paid, whether its using RBF or child pays for parent (CPFP)..  even stuff like with new CLTV and CSV it can now be done after confirm while funds are CLTV maturing they can be CSV revoked

funny part is blockstream(core) will make quadratics issues using native keys worse (16k instead of 4k txsigops) and also
blockstream(core) made it easier to fool people into thinking they will be paid (RBF, CPFP, and CLTV+CSV and many more non malleability methods)

The fact that you don't agree with someones opinion does not make them a shill.

I tend to enjoy reading franky1 comments as they are usually more informative than 99% of the trash that is slung around.

How would he even manage multiple accounts when he is posting so many long, and on-topic, posts?

Could transaction malleability / quadratics be solved on native keys by a hard fork which changes the way transactions are constructed? Still lacking in technical depth on this issue.

i dont need an alter ego. my opinion is big enough that i only need one name to spread my opinion. i dont need no fake games of making 20 accounts

my passion is for bitcoin, the decentralised and diverse consensus network.
if there is obvious threat like someone trying to slide in code without node consensus (blockstream(cores) going soft approach) then im not gonna sit in the corner and be quiet about it.

yes there are a dozen other implementations that exist. even blockstream KNOTS. but even though its a Luke JR invention. he is not trying to slide his code in under the consensus radar and strangely he is not actually trying to hide its faults. he has made his knots blindingly obvious to not meet community actual desire but ticked the minimal requirements of a twisted logic attempt of something he agreed to do

other implementations like bitcoinj, ruby, go, xt, classic, bu, and many others are not trying to slide in half gestures using soft back door methods either. yes my opinion about blockstream(core) is strong. but thats because their pushing it and 99% of people dont know the fine details of what they are pushing. all they do is see an objection that they cannot refute. so the end the topic and create a new topic to respam the half gesture sales pitch as an avoidance technique. hence my opinion keeps appearing on many threads of the same topic.

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separately and off the topic of segwit i have made comments tips hints and spread idea's about things not segwit..
i have helped get businesses to set up bitcoin acceptance. helped many understand bitcoin properly, i have done alot of things that can be helpful..
i just dont brag about it in every post. hence why most of my posts just sound like all i talk about is the current flaws of a big change to bitcoin (segwit).

i can feel many itching to ask 'what ideas opinions, etc have i done thats not segwit related topic'.. off the top of my head

EG next gen hardware wallet as a smartwatch that sends only signed tx via rfid. (to match visacards/applepay 'touchless' technology/functionality) instead of waffly addresses/qr codes

EG new priority fee formulae that does a better job than the old formulae

EG how to really reduce quadratics risk without trying to 'promise' fixes that cant be achieved unless moving 46milion outputs

i can feel many itching to troll that now im bragging. yet i mention them like once here. not every post every day..

but what i find most interesting is that 99% of people advocating for segwit. cannot themselves actually describe how segwit will promise things after activation, in any detail.. because all they have read is the 30 second reddit scripts of half baked promises/ utopian sales pitch.

the usual replies i get are
' why should i tell you what i know or dont know'
.. insult implied to change the subject
.. shill accusation implied to change the subject
.. 'why waste 2 minutes explaining when i can insult for weeks instead

Franky1 is legendary, he's got his own topic. 

If the 'shill' poll follows a similar pattern to segwit/blockstream support polls, I think we should have a poll on how many people engage in their own critical thinking.

People can always try to refute his comments. Perhaps someone could point out where he has misunderstood the code?

People have different ideas. Even Luke Jr was against the removal of coin age from the reference* miners transaction priority code.

*Miners clearly modify the transaction priority code. I had another 1 sat/byte high coin age transaction confirmed, this time by GBMiners (previous transaction of a similar type had been confirmed by BitFury and BW.com). It was confirmed in 3 blocks. The first 2 blocks mined before it were not full despite outstanding transactions, antpool and f2pool the culprits.

Yes, it is quite obvious something is a bit fishy with him and his alter ego jonald_fyookball. They are tag teaming all BU vs Bitcoin Core related threads and countering all SegWit and LN arguments. I have no problem with people giving the other side of the argument, but if they are paid to do just that, I might have a problem with that.

We will never know if they are getting paid to shill for BU, but the concentration on specific Segwit related posts seem to indicate that some shilling might be going on.  ^hmmmmmm^

Everyone have a right to express their opinion, so I personally give them the benefit of the doubt, with a pinch of doubt.

No, I disagree with him plenty, but he's not a shill. I'd say a shill is going to be someone largely ignorant who posts like they are reading from a script. That's not Franky1 whatever your perspective on the Core/BU debate, SW, etc.

Legendary used to mean much more than it does nowadays though, people have been arguing for a higher rank level. Some of the legendaries are just old gambling/trading site promotion accounts that now use their reputation to shut down arguments (cough tradefortress cough)

My skills in programming (etc.) are essentially non-existent, my comments re SW vs. BU are not really informed ones as an example (other than saying that these assholes ought to put their EGOS away and solve the various scaling issues plaguing Bitcoin).  Oh, and while they're at it, they should think ahead as to when BTC traffic rises substantially again, so we don't go through all the drama yet again...

Most of my commenting here at bitcointalk is about finance and a fair amount on privacy and the whole encryption (etc.) set of issues.  It's hard for an outsider like me to know everything...

That's cool.

Can I ask why you are ignorant of the issues?  You're a legendary member. 

I am not judging you, but I want to understand generally why there's a lack of information or clarity.

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I would not know.  But franky1 has answered varios questions from me when I was a NOOB, showed some decency (as have many others here).

Many shills would not do that, it's typically not part of their M.O.

So, even in ignorance, I voted "No".

Your signature implies that you are the shill

Yep, he is as shill as they come, besides a bad one - he is shilling very rough and achieves only    
opposite result, people start to loathe him and what he shills for (BTU)

i earnd my bitcoin years ago from the good old trading days of 2012-2013 when the volitility was amazing.
i spend my time exploring countries and now and again getting businesses involved in bitcoin

i dont get any income from businesses for sponsorship or for my opinion. i am self sufficient and enjoying life. it gives me the freedom to do as i like and say what i like and actually research what i like.

if people spent more time researching and understanding bitcoin they would see passed the ass kissing drama. its time people stop kissing the temporary devs asses and started thinking about the 120+ years of bitcoin as a decentralised diverse consensus network.

so ask yourselves (without google or reddit scripts):
1. how many implementations are on the bitcoin network
2. how many implementations would you want there to be

this will guide you into realising how centralised / decentralised your mindset is

next
ask yourself (without google or reddit scripts):
1. what would you do when blockstream move onto another coin like hyperledger, litecoin, monero, zcash or ethereum
2. would you follow bitcoin or blockstream.

this will guide you into realising if you care about bitcoin or blockstream

next
really let it sink in
bitcoin can last 120+ years. devs can move on for many different reasons (boredom, personal reasons, retirement, employment changes)
which do you really care about most

Did Adam not stab the community in the back by renegging on the Hong Kong agreement?

Did Greg not reject every scaling proposal (even segwit + 2MB) ?
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its funny how hard you guys are trying now...
must mean the truth is getting out...
and Blockstream is getting terrified.

Frankly1 is the biggest paid shill here and Jonald is just a 15 years old noob crying for his lolypop.

care to rebut the flaws of the bitcoin technicals.
or poke many bears with insults until the bears bite back and then you pretend to be a victim of attack

Shills going to shill until they can't and then they resort to name calling smh..

I think Alex might be right... you must have a low IQ if you think my Paybis signature has anything to do with supporting Satoshi Nakamoto over Adam-stab-you-in-the-back and one meg Greg.

its called turn off your PC. and have a nice walk on a beach, get some fresh air and reflect on what your write.

P.S im on a beach right now

if you think there are only 2 implementations then you have not done your homework.
there are over a dozen.

my thoughts are based on a decentralised diverse consensus network
meaning MANY brands all running on the same network.. not just a couple and most definitely not 1... unlike others in the blockstreamist camp that only want core

so let me guess how many brands you want

Unlike you, I don't get paid to post, I do it for the lols so I don't care what anyone thinks. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything unlike you and your shill buddies.

I just like to point out the bullshit shills as a public service 

Good grief, is there a button or something that lets you ignore everyone on the forum so you can only see your own posts?

This is what happens when low IQ monkeys attempt to refute human on complex human technologies. Their brains implode then they scream and run back to their trees to eat bananas.

Either that or he has waaaay too much time on his hands, no reasonable person spends this much time arguing a point.

Simply not rational behaviour. Perhaps his account was sold?

nah. i personally couldn't be paid enough money to spend that much time on one subject. it's gotta be a passion/obsession.

do you honestly think your posts (I can't even call them arguments) will be persuasive to any miner reading this?

There is no point in arguing with you about anything because you are a paid shill.

Point in fact, if you are pro decentralization you would be anti BU.

Where you stand is well documented, that's why people know you as a shill, its the only explanation why you post the bullshit that you do.

So, blah, blah, blah Core/Blockstream/SegWit sucks and Bitcoin Unlimited is the savior of Bitcoin and when that fails, extension blocks are the savior of Bitcoin.

I"m tired of trying to refute you guys.

 Its like you throw me a giant ball of tangled christmas lights and before I can untangle it you make 20 more. Its a never ending torrent of bull shit. No one's got time for that.

rebut the technicals then..
actually try

if all you can do is insult. then save yourself the time and use it to learn bitcoin.

i dont kiss ass because i care more about bitcoins 120+ lifespan, than i do about some temporary guys that may move on, get old and retire or join hyperledger in a few months-years.

if all you care about the blockstream devs, and not the technicals of bitcoin itself. your missing the point of bitcoin

People notice your name because you keep posting the SAME bullshit over and over, again and again, hour after hour, day after day, on and on and on...

i only use one account.
and i think that is your issue. that rather then me using many accounts to express myself. i use only one, which is why people notice my name so much.

but if you should ever care to actually think about bitcoin as a diverse decentralised network. and spent time to rebut the technical flaws of segwit
i would feel proud to see more people actually finally looking at the technology and direction bitcoin is moving in. rather than the "insult him because he doesnt kiss ass" scripts

franky1 must be pulling all his alt accounts out to counter your poll LOL

worth repeating as many call me a shill just to avoid the technical flaws of the group they are defending.

so here they are again:
segwit does not solve quadratics.. it makes it 4x worse:
0.12 4k maxtxsigops (~10sec validation time)
0.14 16k maxtxsigops (~8min validation time)

multisigs(backnone of LN) themselves solve malleability without segwit, simply by requiring a second person sign off on a transaction

segwit is not a 2mb or 4mb capacity growth promise. it requires EVERYONE to move funds to segwit keypairs and stick with those key pairs without any native key users.. to even get close to the 2mb 'gesture'
EG 1mb 'promised' 7tx/s if everyone used lean tx's...
we have NEVER had a 7tx/s block in 8 years. so forget thinking segwit will get the 100% utility to hit the 'expected 2-4x capacity'


segwit has taken a year and a half of delays for a half gesture 2merkle TIER network.. yet could have been done in less time as a single merkle full network consensus upgrade that could have included other features like dynamics.. where there would not have been debates, drama and the community would have been united

forget the reddit sales pitches and scripts
forget the utopia
forget the 'love and adore blockstream' parade and actually scrutinise the code and technicals

if your just going to reply "shill" then save your time, use it more wisely learning bitcoin
let me guess if you dont shout shill as your only argument . it will probably be still ignoring the technical flaws.. and just most probably be a reply about some grammar details (the other empty argument to evade the real technical flaws)

He's proven himself to be smarter than me time and time again,  so he can do whatever the hell he wants and I would have a hard time detecting it.  But no, he just espouses opinions you don't like.  Only the paranoid reach for the conspiracy theories in such cases.

I've not seen anyone who can refute franky1's points with facts and logic.

All Blockstream/Core shills can do is use troll and group think echo chamber tactics on him.

Their thinking is that if they can get 50 other idiots to agree that the earth is flat, then they can hardfork reality.

No... but you might be.

Do you think user franky1 is "shilling" spreading fear / uncertainty for personal gain? Ether by pumping the alt-coin markets or perhaps some other arrangement were he gets paid to post on these forums.

Do you think he is pretending to give a impartial endorsement of something in which he himself has an interest?