Topic: Is Germany getting near the end? (Read 1819 times)

I don't think that Germany is going through a bad time. To date, it is one of the most influential countries in Europe. This article contains the wrong facts.

Uh-oh. Sounds like trouble. I agree that the issue looks severe and action has to be taken soon. I wonder how you guys are going to unravel this mess. Good luck.

Firstly I am not German. I think this article is trash. German is a huge economy, hard working people and home to many amazing brands. Its infrastructure is first class and its polictical leadership is some of the best in the world. Please dont make decisions based on articles you read in the Sun newspaper.

Yeah sure... they are somewhat immune to the outside issues. That's why they are creating problems on the inside. They have taken around 1.5 million Muslim immigrants from Syria and other middle-eastern nations. After the family reunifications, we can expect this number to multiply by many times. Anyway... all the best for the Germans.

They bit off more than they can chew.
Someone told me once that the European Union was a way for "Germania" to get to the 4th Reich, and at that moment I thought "this guy is a genius - why didn't I think of this myself - it's so obvious.
But maybe this time it won't go their way.

Germany is the strongest economy in the EU which means it's really impossible to be ended by the outside conditions.

Germany's future gonna be interesting, or i would say the whole EUROPE, the christian vs muslim.

Now one is happy with the German dictatorship within the EU. Neither the western European nations (especially Italy, Netherlands.etc), not the eastern members (Poland, Slovakia, Romania.etc) are happy with the current state of affairs. The EU will not survive secession by another large member. It can be Italy, France, Netherlands, or Belgium.

Absolutely not. Germany has one of the most powerful economy on earth and It will be continuing for years. Howver; Germany must solve its immgrant problem immediately for its own people's sake. Immigrants are the real problem of Germany . This country has nothing with economy.

I don't think so.
Germany is real leader of EU and the chancellor Merkel have vision how and where to lead Germany and whole EU.
Even if EU collapse I'm sure that Germany will remain stable and leader in free market.
Yes, they have some difficulties now in political arena but it will be resolved, as always, after long and difficult but constructive negotiations.
Politicians in Germany are responsible and will not endanger the stability and prosperity of the whole country.
From economic viewpoint, Germany has never been in better, position without debts and deficits.
Other countries have a lot to learn from Germany.

Germany is not nearing it's end although it does have problems. The EU however i think is on course to disband perhaps in the next decade. I think more countries will secede then.

I dont think this is going to happen anytime soon on the contrary after Brexit Germany will have to play a larger role to keep the EU together.

As a German I agree with criptix.

Are you a german reichsbürger? LoL

Im a german citizien and i can say with 100% certainity that you are talking bullshit.
Reading your post reminds me badly of Russia Today - putins personal PR machine.

Neither do we ignore crimes by refugees/migrants nor are we using refugees as slave workers.
We still live happily and enjoy our freedom and democracy.
The only unrest we have are some 1.000 people of the AFD composed mostly of some neo-nazis that burn asylum seeker hostel's and people like you who desperately try to spread lies and defend shit like that.

Germanys executive leader breached international law and her countrys law by suspending border control, inticing hundreds of thousands of people to pour into the country through hapless "allies" of Germany in south and east of the continent. All the while turning blind eye to violence commited both by migrants (especially in refugee camps against women and children) and ultra-left activists rallying around militant Antifa organization.

She created unrest and blatantly went against law.

Brexit is just a start of this destructive process where rule of law is upholded selectively without regard for wishes and interests of tax payers, which are actually paying for the circus.

So.

Please, educate me, how exactly are both german and other european citizens supposed to defend themselves against attack on their freedoms and rights democratically? By more BREXITs? As I have said, chancellor has virtually no opposition in either Bundestag or EU parlament in spite of all of this. It is fascimile of democracy. China has parliament too, you know? It matters about as much.

In working country. Democratic or not, that woman would be in prison by now. Yet, all you hapless slaves have to say. "Oh, oh, she said she will solve everything in no time!" No, shit Sherlock, she created the problem for you and the rest of Europe in the first place.

I can't understand what you do not like life in Germany? You communicate with the Germans? They are quite happy with everything. The only problem is the refugees, but Merkel already solves this problem. Now begins the deportation and everything will return into place.

Lmao

New nazi world order and reptile aliens :S

you know nothing about the rest of the world. Believe me Germany is far more democratic than Russia, China, Turkey, etc.

I doubt more dead people will change anything. Merkel effectively destroyed all her opponents in her own party and all other parties in Bundestag actually support her stance on immigration and reverse racism.

Germany at its current state is no more democratic than People Republic of China. Power is completely centralized and any kind of dissent is hammered from all sides.

Or maybe they are not fleeing from Syria. Maybe they are doing their job. Now they will scatter across Europe and begin to gain the support of relatives and friends. Then some of them will be engaged in the colonization of Europe, the other attacks.

They are in a state of war but it is unlikely to become a civil war with huge number of the population going against each other. This is not a war with everything is waged just like a war on freedom and patriotism. This kind of war is more likely a rebellion and the event has occurred successively. The state to combat this violence needs to declare a state of war or a state of emergency so the government can exercise its military power to combat the rebel groups.

Germany is not nearing the end.  Yes, they are divided but what country in the West isn't today? Germany has a good industry, it's a wqell developed country.

The only thing nearing the end is Merkel, she overplayed her hand and people now are calling her bluff. Finally.

And the biggest joke is that almost 90% of these rapefugees are adult males. That means that they fled Syria and Afghanistan to Germany, leaving behind their wives, sisters, and children to the mercy of the ISIS.

I agree with you. A lot of Russian trolls, but we not to give them a free feel. As for Germany they are doing very well and Merkel will remain for the next term, and in France will lead to criminal proceedings at all about Putin's candidates. The Russians lose this battle.

Exactly

They do not go because among the refugees, the bulk of the lousy people. If you are a normal person you have to defend your homeland instead of hiding as refugees. In addition, they do not want to work. Their dream is to live in a rich country on welfare.

The vast majority of the EU population remains thoroughly brainwashed by the liberal propaganda dished out from various mainstream media channels. And most of the females are supporters of the radical feminist ideology, which want to replace the native men with Muslim immigrants. A perfect example is the defeat of Norbert Hofer in Austria.

not a fascist movement, but rather an uprising of people against the terror and we can even now see the rise of the Right-wing parties in various countries. An to be honest, I like what I see, countries have lost their identities, they're all the same. I hope that EU union (4th Reich falls apart).

That's just one thing that's going to destroy it among other things, the second one may be that the rich countries are sick of giving money to the poor ones. Well you know there are a lot of other rich muslim countries nearby, why didn't they go there? hm....

It's weird that you would say that, since the Anti-Fascists are the biggest fascists Pepe can currently think of.
Just because something is Far-Right, Pro-White, Pro-Nation doesn't make them "Fascists".

Let's not forget that Hitler was more than anything else a SOCIALIST.
Which makes him a total LEFTY in Pepe's book.

It seems to me that it is already difficult to rectify the situation. For some reason it seems that for all its outward intolerance of Russia Merkel sold out to Putin. All its actions are aimed at the collapse of the European Union.

Looks like Europe is ripe for another Fascist movement. My aunt is working in Italy and they're constantly complaining about misbehaving immigrants. We've seen far right parties starting to become more prominent and get more popular support. If they don't change their immigration policies, things could get even uglier.

A Muslim-majority Europe (i.e the European Union) will be more hostile to Russia than a secular or Christian Europe. And Putin knows this well. That is why he is supporting various anti-immigrant political parties in the EU (such as the Front National of France, AfD of Germany, the PVV of Netherlands, FPO of Austria and the Lega Nord of Italy).

The problem is that these migrants may spoil those who are already living in Europe. Even after the deportation of all migrants, the attacks will not stop. Need to deal not only with migrants but also by Islam in Europe.

Germany is doing better than France at the moment, but both these countries are doomed if they don't start thinking about their migration policy. And by thinking I mean taking extreme measures. Every migrant should be given an ultimatum, either they comply with the laws or they can GTFO. Any insubordination should result in deportation to the country of origin.

Schroeder is a waste material. He has done his job when lobbied for the Nord stream. Merkel has made for Putin no less a service. Europe is flooded with refugees and triggered its collapse. And what politicians say I don't believe. I judge by deeds.

Merkel will get a job from the Qatargas, once she is defeated in the 2017 federal elections. Gazprom will never consider her, as she is one of the most Russophobic politicians in the world right now. And also, why they need another German, when Gerhard Schröder is doing such a good job?

Can certainly they financed the rebels, but you forgot that Russia financed the Assad regime. In addition, NATO was not at war in Syria. So Russia is to blame in this conflict. Do not be surprised if Merkel after the end of his term will go to work in Gazprom.

It was the NATO which provoked the civil war in Syria (in 2012), when they funded the Al Qaeda and other Islamist groups so that they could overthrow Assad. Russia, on the other hand got involved only in 2015.

And who provoked the conflict of this scale in Syria? Of course Merkel's fault that she allowed the "locusts" in Europe. Only it does not remove the blame from Russia. Zhirinovsky even said that in the interests of Russia to the war in Syria never ends.

Russia is not directly responsible for situation in Germany, but they are playing very ''dirty'' game in Syria, with their ''friend'' Assad.
It's obvious that, as result of such Russian policy in Syria, to eliminate any opposition to Assad, many people had to escape from Syria to Turkey, and further to Europe.
I think that Merkel did something very humanistic and generous, to accept and help all this refuges, and give them new chance for life.
Don't forget that behind most terrorist attacks in Europe are not refugees but second of third generations of Muslims born in Europe.
Is Germany getting near the end?
No!
Germany in history passed even much more difficult time, like in 1918 or 1945 but they survived and became the most influential and powerful European country.
Nobody can break German's will and strong character.

It is laughable to blame Russia for internal issues in Germany. It was Merkel who invited the Syrians and Iraqis to come to Germany. She was hoping for a Nobel Peace prize... but unfortunately someone else won it. Now I don't understand Russia's role here.

The worst thing that uncontrolled migration could destroy the European Union, but no one does not fight with it. Why? I'm sure that is not the problem in Syria to create a guarded refugee camp and keep them there.

That's why extremists are targeting it the most and that's why there will be a strong fight to preserve Germany as it is.

Who allow mass immigration without any background check on who and what they are.

the people who import muslims into europe are responsible

Oh I certainly agree on that with you.

Radicals are directly responsible, ALL Muslims are indirectly responsible.

I agree with you. The whole world is struggling with Muslim fanatics except Muslims. They only fight among themselves for power. In Christian countries Muslims maintain neutrality. This can lead to the fact that they too will become enemies.

He was talking about the fanatics like those Wahabbi assholes. Great way to turn a quote into something completely different, you should contemplate on working for BBC.

You are right of course but the lie told 100 times becomes the truth. This is the principle of propaganda. And as if wasn't awful, but it works. Now let's see how to change the opinion about Putin. Russia spends billions of dollars a year on propaganda.

This looks like opaque Russian propaganda. Even if the politics are rubbish right now, Germany is going nowhere and is still the main powerhouse in Europe. I constantly see this lame undercurrent in the politics forum of subtle and twisted threads pushing the agenda that Russia is good, West is bad. Except it's not, the rest of the world sees that every day and it's laughable to suggest.

This is starting to feel more like 1914.

Trump, Putin, Turkey assassination, upset populations, this will only lead to nationalism
and civil war with Muslims.

Muslims should tone down these attacks or they
will be wipe off the face of the Earth as announced by Trump.

short answer is yes.

radical events are needed to force mollycoddled westerners from their comfort zones, as long as germans enjoy nice easy lives they won't rise up and drive the invaders out, hell most of them refuse even to vote for anti immigration parties because being labelled racist is the worst thing they can imagine happening to them

i've said it before and it bears repeating, it is the women (who support migrants) and cowards (who also support migrants) who ultimately take the brunt of the invaders' savagery and at this point in time they aren't worth shedding a drop of blood for, things are going to turn around soon but i think it begins in netherlands and france not germany, denazification infected the germans with an unusually severe case of pussification even by western standards, it may be that the islamic population needs to rise to 40% and literal anarchy be unleashed upon that country for the people to start fighting back

It's still scary to hear that this situation has escalated to this, should it take more dead people for them to do something about it?

unfortunately i think not, the economy's in decent shape and most people still aren't directly being made to feel the effects of the invasion, probably a few more years of merkel or something like merkel before things really kick off

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2444494/germany-martial-law-war-angela-merkel-berlin-truck/


In a radio interview, Klaus Bouillon of Merkel’s CDU party said that Germany was in a “state of war”

Ministers on both sides of the political divide: “We must state that we are in a state of war, although some people who want to see only the good can not see.”

Any Germans here that can shed some more light on this situation or someone who's more informed about this?