Topic: Is Israel commiting a genocide on Hamas or are fighting for their survival (Read 65 times)

I would say both is true. Some anti-Israel people would argue the legitimacy of Israels existence is imaginary and unjust, due to their literal land robbery and continued abuses of the palestinian population. On the other hand, anti-Palestinians refuse to acknowledge Israel's crimes and see Israel as having earned the moral high ground to bomb children, just because Hamas destabilized the situation on October 7th 2023 as the first attacker.  I think that both sides are completely irrelevant, because Israel exists now and there is no time machine with which we can travel back in time to undo that. That does not justify picking a side for the genocide of either people.

We can discuss right and wrong all day but the fact is that regardless of their motives, they both fight for their survival and because they want to exterminate each other and take the land. There is justice here. Murder is murder no matter who is right. And we should not support one murderer over the other. If it were up to me, I would not support nor oppose either side. Let them fight, if they want to fight. Other countries should not intervene. Doing so gives one country the advantage over the other, without there being a moral reason for giving them that advantage, since they only use it to abuse the other for purely ideological reasons.

Though, alledgely Hamas also targeted civilians when they attacked Israel back last year. So I am not sure to what extent they could called to be a guerrilla or some kind of irregular fighting parting seeking to reclaim territory from an invader.
If both sides only targeted combatants, then this would be a very different situation and it would be easier to call this a regular war, but it is not.
Each side alledges the other is targeting and purposely killing innocent people, for the sake of a political and territorial aim, that is terrorism.

Anyone seeking for the killing of non-combatants for the pursue of a political objective is a terrorist.
Denpending whom you ask, this is a war between a legitimate faction versus a terrorist one, but others will say this is rather a war between terrorist factions.

My question to you is what is terrorism. Why are Palestinians called terrorists if their land was taken by enemies?

Let's imagine your country is attacked and defeated and the enemy decides it now belongs to another country. You don't agree and continue to fight them, but they call you a terrorist. Are you a terrorist in such situation or are you not?

Hamas does commit acts of terror but inherently it's not a terrorist organizations. It's more of a guerilla group that adapted to this style of fighting.

I think that Israel is committing genocide because it's not killing members of Hamas, but mostly civilians. If it was only between them and Hamas it could be called war, but it's not.

Hamas is a small group of people and they are running out of resources to counterattack since the attack started at the concert and from that moment Israel is just trying to wipe Hamas/Gazan from existence on this world.

Hamas backed terrorists and militants planned and exsercuted what appeared to be a coordinated and backed attack resulting in the death of over a thousand including woman, children and innocent civilians , looking at the geographical location of Israel it's bordered by Egypt, Jordan Palestine and other Arad countries who have terrorists organization like Hazbola, is etc who have voted that until Israel is wiped away from the face of the earth they will not rest and is doing everything possible to make sure they actualize their agenda and agenda and they have financers from their Arab brothers from all over the world that is why they are able to get all that they need in actualizing their vision and goals

Birds of the same colour flocks together, infact to let you understand what am talking about turkey some times ago deployed some war ships into their sea in what it called supporting their brothers Hamas in the war, letting you know that turkey is of terrorists militants backed by it state Hamas and in retaliation and response to this attack on her citizens and to coil the impending treat to her territorial integrity which is fundamental to any state, Israel launched a full scale war on Hamas which is the state responsible for causing the or trying to destabilize her own state and because Israel started crushing her enemies and in making sure that all treat to her territorial integrity is eliminated completely the same terrorists have have gained the mercy and sympathy of the world and is spreading the falsehood and propaganda that Israel is commiting crime's against humanity and because all the militants who can't withstand the superior military superpowers of Israel has gone into hiding in Rafar the only city left to be destroyed by Israel the whole world is calling on Israel to ceasefire including the U.N, U.S etc
This lead me to think what is really wrong with the man , now don't think am writing this because am an christians no am an African and to me the two religion both Christianity and Islam are both gehardist and colonialist religions to me, now back to our discussion why is the U.N calling for Israel to stop, that they should leave enemies a people who say Israel is their problem that until they are wiped away from the face of the earth they will not rest
Now the whole world is saying Israel is commiting crime's against humanity that they are killing woman, children and innocent civilians now can you tell me what these people did to Israel did this terrorists also killed woman and children in Israel if yes then I can categorically say that Israel is commiting commiting crime's against humanity but is only fighting for their survival and that of their unborn and future generations to come

Let discuss guys what is your take on this