Topic: Is it allowed to post in Local Section not belonging to you (Read 512 times)

I think there should be an exemption to that and should be case to case basis. Ive seen user who are posting on our Local thread, and not knowing he isnt a Fililipino (Pilipinas Section Board) but his post is in english though, and from his post, he showed places in our country set up. So in my mind, I thought he is also a Filipino. But not. Instead he told us that he is residing for quite sometime and even uses services on our country. He already acquainted and I assume he understands already even little our country's dialect. So talking a little bit of our own language wouldnt hurt a bit. So I guess there is nothing wrong about that since he is staying there. I'm talking about @nutildah, our mod there seems no issue of him posting there. Well Ive guess it depends on the standard set by moderators of each local as emphasized by theymos.

Check this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54112246

Where is the damn meaning in your post, huh? The rule does not accept anyone who uses Google Translate to provide translation services, @fillippone has also emphasized it.
Using Google Translate is a good thing for casual communication, as long as you don't use it to provide language-related services. I support fillippone's way, others please don't repeat nonsense if you don't have really good idea 

Using Google translate won't make the translated sentence 100% meaning especially when it's very technical. It's better to observe the thread in my opinion. It's also bad to want to use it for business purposes because you might get red tagged. Better to hire a translator.

Ofcourse YES! As long as the topic is contributing to the board in a net positive way instead of off-topic thread hijackings, you are always welcome to join the discussions present over there. A perfect example for a similar situation in recent days was global member JollyGood stepping in the Indian board and having a very healthy conversation with us. It would always be refreshing to connect with global members and knowing about their thoughts on our country as a whole. Thread hijackings on the other hand doesn't seem to be good since the poster would absolutely have no idea on the instances happening over in the country and they would just be posting plagiarized content to complete their weekly criteria thereby ruining our board with spams in the process.

You could see the whole discussion topic started by JollyGood here : Ecommerce in India: Amazon vs Walmart

It's primarily because we speak English all over the country. India has 22 official languages and if we need to connect with people among the different states we use English as it is the only language which would be understandable to most of the citizens in the country. For instance, people residing in Northern part of the country primarily speak Hindi whereas people from Southern part speaks at least 4-5 different languages and almost 90% of the Southern population aren't aware of Hindi. So in order to have a healthy conversation among us, we use English. The high schools, universities, offices, shops, malls and others should primarily follow English as their language since these are places which would see visitors from various parts of the countries. This is how the whole country works and we are used to the fact that English is the national language of India.

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Other than that, if the user is trying to advertise his BTC selling services for currencies other than INR in the Indian local board, then trashing the whole topic is the only way to move forward.

I agree with you.
If I remember well we had a few request for Croatian- English translation project in pur local Croatian section, in English of course, but it was fine for all of us and nobody complained or sent report.
Otherwise, all other spam posts in our section, ussually in English, we report right away to the mods.

Very easy. Just disable signatures like how it's done to Serious and Ivory subforums.

But then, the French members joining sig campaigns would all migrate elsewhere

This is worthy, because they have also violated the rules, they are not allowed to use automatic translation tools to translate articles and topics. If they cannot even afford to write that language well, how they can participate in translation in campaigns, they should be banned at any time. As for signature campaigns, it depends on how the user works and it cannot be asserted superficially.

Uh oh, I don't think I'd be welcomed there anytime soon as I'm in one right now

I don't think people should be posting in Local sections if they can't speak the language. The only exception I would probably make is if someone is looking for something like a good or service specifically from that country, or like theymos said in the Indian board most people are speaking English, but otherwise I think allowing this en masse is just going to be an excuse for people to find another section to spam in and since the Indian board doesn't have a mod this could easily be abused if it isn't already. I would ask the op why does he want to post in that section? I'm sure most people could talk about things like sports in India's sub-board but that doesn't mean they should. 

Yes, red tags were generously given in the french section for very bad translations of ANNs when there was no moderator. Now it's easier, I delete .

You can come and discuss or ask questions in the french section, it's not a big problem if you use Google Translate. But, if you come to make your posts for your signature campaign, it's going to be more complicated.

Yup, there was a case someone got red-tagged for using it. But he was somewhat advertising, hence the RT.

And it happened in the French board IINM.

Yes it is allowed. Translating other threads into your own local language is allowed as long as the owner of the original thread give you permission to translate the thread then your good to go. As you can see, not all know how to speak english so that is why translation is one of the way to help those who don't know english or other languages except local. Just tranlsate the thread correctly and avoid using translators which is not 100% accurate and would make the content's explaination wrong.

Sorry if I stray the topic  
Using Google Translate is not a bad thing. Many people are not proficient in English or cannot remember everything to speak fluently, so they can use Google Translate as a tool to assist them in activities on this forum   It's fine. It is only bad when bounty hunters/damn spammers are using Google Translate and spam all over the forum, they should be the ones who should receive negative feedback. It is something to look into, but since the merit system came out, I don't see as many spammers as before  
I agree, it should be considered in all cases

It depends on the rules of the local board you're posting in, and to an extent the purpose of your posts.
Some local boards have no problem with automated translations regardless of the intent behind the post, while others would only allow it, if it's not an obvious attempt to grab merits from that section.

Are you sure about this?
I understand it's forbidden to provide (paid or unpaid) translation services using Google Translator.
I seldom used it yo express myself in the foreign language I am not able to speak to introduce myself when summoned there by the notification bot I use (happened various time in Spanish, but also Filipino or Russian Board).
I think it's more polite to try to use GT (of course making everyone aware of it) as an act of courtesy, and then ask to locals about their preferences (continue using GT or switch to English), rather than bombing a discussion in the local language with your English post.
I never had any problems in many foreign board with  this approach.
I hope not to be red tagged by you for this!

Offcourse it's allowed, as long as you know that language and have what to say. Here on Bitcointalk, nobody knows where you're from, so there is no way to know that this board doesn't belong to you.
I think Spanish is a bit different thing. Spanish language, same like French is global language at some level. It can't be compared with English, but it's also used in many countries. These boards are dedicated to language, rather than specific country, like Dutch, Philippnes or German.
BTW, As I understand, there is some differences between Spanish and Latino Spanish.

Indeed. Among some big local boards which have no moderators (Croatian, Hebrew, India, Japanese, Nederlands, Korean, & Skandinavisk), only India has most English threads there. Since English is a global language (international language), it makes sense if people from other local boards comment there. But how if someone masters a specific language (ex: Croatian, Japanese, or Korean), can he posted a comment on those local boards as well? Those local boards also have no moderators.

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I'm sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I think several big local boards I stated above deserve to have moderators for now. They are growing and will need someone to manage and monitor it regularly. IMHO 

The local sections are primarily divisions based on language. The moderators of each local section are allowed to set different standards for how fluent your posts have to be, but you should never be excluded based on residency/ethnicity/nationality.

India is unusual because they mainly speak English, and also they don't currently have a local mod. I suppose that as long as your posting is on-topic and the regular posters in that section don't get annoyed, it should be OK.

Don’t use Google Translate, it’s frowned upon here & you might get red trust for it. Obviously you can get involved in the English speaking threads there though.

I think every local board has rules that must be followed by every poster there and I hope you try to take a little time to examine it briefly before you decide to post it. I have to admit that the local board is the place most relevant to the local language and when there are posts or threads in different languages ​​then I think it is a little irrelevant to the habits of many users there. My advice to you, if you have to post something urgent on another local board and dont want to get language barriers then ask someone to translate your thread and start posting on the local board that you mean and in my opinion it is more relevant to the users habits there.

There’s nothing to stop you technically. Providing you make yourself pretty well understandable there, I don’t see any issue. In a sense, it’s similar (not exact) to what goes on in my Spanish local board. There are (a few) people there from Spain, Mexico, Venezuela and so forth, and we often participate in threads that have a country-based content without any issue (doing a bit of prior background topic checking may help).

Of course. A local board shouldn't be limited to people living in the country or being born there. IMO, the point of them existing is:

a) making local communities stronger;
b) letting users that don't speak English to be able to discuss BTC with other people that speak the same language.
c) a place to post news/discussions about BTC/crypto related to their country.

If they speak English (or if you know the language), I see no reason to ban anyone from using it.

Is it allowed to post in Local Section which is not belonging to you like as i do not live in India but can i make meaningful posts in Indian local section as most of the conversation there is in English ?