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October 15, 2023, 02:59:45 PM
#71
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
I have people that I do trust, but I don't trust them 100%. Nobody should be trusted completely, but people do change, especially when money is involved. I won't even recommend anyone to trust a friend or family member 100% because you might end up being disappointed. So it's just better to expect anything from anyone, don't expect too much, either from a family member or a friend.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
I have a friend who knows my PIN, he does help me withdraw from ATM's often, but we can't compare your seed phrase with your PIN. If you notice any suspicious activity, you can just walk into the bank and change your PIN, but when it comes to seed phrase, it can't be changed. I have a limit on the amount I can withdraw from my ATM in a day, if I need more money, I will have to visit the bank to make a withdrawal, and if a transaction is made in my account, then it can easily be tracked. If the person makes use of the ATM to make a withdrawal, most ATM's have cameras that will take pictures of anyone making a withdrawal, so if anyone uses my ATM, then I can easily track the person.
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October 15, 2023, 02:58:19 PM
#70
Yes, I trust my wife completely.
We've been together for so long in so many situations and she always had access to my money while I had access to hers. Even though we used our bank accounts, computers, phones, the trust was never abused by any side. When I want to pay from her account I always tell her, even though I don't have to, and she does the same. When I first bought bitcoin I kept some of it on her computer for safety because I was afraid my might get a virus. It was many years ago when bitcoin was worth less than $1k and she never used any of it. I see no reason not to trust her now when it's worth more.
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October 15, 2023, 02:57:57 PM
#69
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

For sure it was really difficult to trust someone especially if it is already all about money, since when it comes to money everyone could easily betray you even if it is your family or relative. Especially if it is really a huge amount of money for sure they are going to do anything for it even though they needed to do bad things, I mean not everyone, for sure there are still a lot of people that are trusted and you could fully trust with your money or ATM pin.

Probably with the ATM pin, I could easily give that to my family i mean i give my atm card to my family as well when i told them they can withdraw on my card sometimes, but the seed phrase is going to be a different story since it has a huge investment and they dont really understand it well.

In my opinion, its gonna be better if your not going to trust anyone with your ATM pin or every your seed phrase because it also going to be risky on your side, for sure they are going to understand if your not going to trust them with it, what i do is i have a book where this kind of information is written, all of my passwords and even my seed phrase so that they might also have access with my accounts in the future, but they just doesnt have access on it these days since i hide it from them but they know that it exist because i told them. So that when the time comes when i died they could easily access my Bitcoin wallet and as well as my accounts in the future.
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October 15, 2023, 02:55:52 PM
#68
However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
I've given a couple of persons my ATM cards to make transactions. I've some level of trust in these persons that they would not try to scam me and even if I sense anything suspicious, I could easily change my ATM pin or request for another card. For now, I cannot trust anyone with my seed phrase and it has nothing to do with the value of asset I have. I haven't seen anyone that I can entrust my seed phrase to.

Also, anyone sharing his seed phrase should let his beneficiary know how sensitive it is. You might have good intentions and share your seed phrase with a spouse or child and the person might be careless about it and you could lose your funds.
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October 15, 2023, 02:54:11 PM
#67
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
First of all I want to say that there are many differences between ATM Pin and seed phrases of a wallet. If I give as an example, you can change your ATM PIN or freeze your bank account by informing the authority, but when you give your seed phrase to someone else, the full rights of that wallet will be yours and that person will have the same. This difference should be kept in mind and then you can think about whether you will give your seed phrase to someone.
I don't think you will be foolish to give seed phrase to anyone, no matter how close you are. But if you want to give some funds as a gift to your loved ones or relatives then you can try the time lock system. Using Locktime for inheritance planning, backups or gifts.
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October 15, 2023, 02:39:21 PM
#66
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust?
Trust must be earned!

And the fact that history has shown that friends and family tend to take such relationships foregranted and will screw you over knowing very well they will ask for forgiveness and reset their bad reputation all because you are related. But if someone proves to be a reliable person with small financial favours I like they deserve to be trusted as it starts from somewhere but not 100% as you need to leave room for disappointment.

if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
If the person still has access to your bank card and knows the pin and is authorised to use these funds but doesn't spend a dime then the person deserves to be a recipient of this backup seedphrase as the bank pin isn't much different from the seedphrase, and shown a sense of responsibility and earned the trust.
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October 15, 2023, 02:25:38 PM
#65
I have two people I trust the most in my life - my mother and father. They both took full responsibility for me from birth - feeding me and meeting all my needs until I was an adult. They are the people I trust most with anything – but they have never asked me to entrust them with money. If I needed to trust anyone to manage my seeds, it would be my parents.

After I get married and have children – it is my wife and children who need to gain my trust. They have rights to my property and money and I should also be able to trust them with my ATM pin and bitcoin address seed. You may not trust them at the moment for some reason - but they have rights to your assets and whatever is left of you after death.
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October 15, 2023, 02:02:52 PM
#64
Trust is the simplest yet the hardest thing to earn from other people and even with oneself.Even with relatives, partner, and own blood could be in conflict when it comes on your trust.If you cannot put your trust to other people then for sure you have your own reason, especially if it concerns money which is one of the biggest factor to instill and gain the trust. If you plan not to share some of your wealth to others then atleast know the downside; life is short and if you(hoping you won’t) would die today bot allowing anyone to access your cryptosavings, then prepare for the possible struggles of your action.Trusting someone is a part in our life but allowing anyone to know your private keys and details then it won.
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October 15, 2023, 01:41:08 PM
#63
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

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Trust is very important in any relationship, relationships and trust run parallel.But many things are that kind  of things  that should not discuss with our family.There should be difference between good and bad friends  ,good friends always give profit to his friends .Do not expect good from bad people , family plays important role in success of anyone.My friends know my mobile pin but they did not see my privacy and I gave all information to them  about my passwords.Five fingers of hand Cannot be equal ,so don't measure one person with another.

Not daring to trust other people, especially those closest to us, this will only make us more worried and anxious because behaving in this way will only cause excessive suspicion towards other people. When we are able to respect and appreciate other people and are able to behave honestly, then other people will also behave in the same way towards us and other people will always guard our privacy.

Yes that's right. There should be open financial conversations between partners. It is better to give each other an ATM PIN or seed phrase for unquestionable management and to plan together the dreams, aspirations and plans of each partner as well as family responsibilities and plans for the family's future along with how to care for the children. After all, no one knows our age, if something happens that cannot be predicted, our assets can be accessed by our partner.

When talking about money, this is a very sensitive matter and in order for a relationship to run well and build a sense of trust in one another, this is where openness with one another is needed so as not to give rise to feelings of suspicion, which often trigger the emergence of turmoil and problems in a relationship.
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October 15, 2023, 01:22:57 PM
#62
WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

My wife. I literally share my ATM pin number to her since she holds my ATM(which I voluntarily ask  Cheesy) and also because she is the one who budgets our expenses in the house. I only get part of it as my allowance and the rest will to her budgeting.

The only time I will not trust my partner is when she is already cheating or she is not responsible enough to manage our budgeting. Seriously, if you can’t trust your partner despite you have kids to sustain then I don’t know what’s wrong with this kind of trust issue anymore.

Yes that's right. There should be open financial conversations between partners. It is better to give each other an ATM PIN or seed phrase for unquestionable management and to plan together the dreams, aspirations and plans of each partner as well as family responsibilities and plans for the family's future along with how to care for the children. After all, no one knows our age, if something happens that cannot be predicted, our assets can be accessed by our partner.

But this is all assuming that you really want to share your finances with someone you completely trust. Sometimes a partner may have different financial goals or ideas about what financial success looks like. And that's great. As long as they don't drain your own account and have good money management skills, that's enough.
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October 15, 2023, 12:46:37 PM
#61
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

....snip
Trust is very important in any relationship, relationships and trust run parallel.But many things are that kind  of things  that should not discuss with our family.There should be difference between good and bad friends  ,good friends always give profit to his friends .Do not expect good from bad people , family plays important role in success of anyone.My friends know my mobile pin but they did not see my privacy and I gave all information to them  about my passwords.Five fingers of hand Cannot be equal ,so don't measure one person with another.
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October 15, 2023, 12:23:26 PM
#60
When I got married, my wife held my ATM along with the PIN and she was the one who managed all financial affairs because she was able to manage it well and for the good of my family. And another reason, because my wife is more frugal and also attentive when she wants to buy something.
And I also gave my seed phrase to my wife and I also taught her how to operate it, and the purpose is to anticipate if I die, because death is unpredictable and also knows no age.
In my opinion, our wife is the only person we should trust and be open about in any matter because she is the one who will be our companion until the end of our lives. And that applies to those who have a very good wife and we know her well overall and also love us very much. Wink
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October 15, 2023, 12:21:04 PM
#59
Damages have been done to the word called trust, hence, it is not an easy word to display anymore. Even trusted people, when pressurized can sacrifice the trust you have for them on grounds that offers more than what is expected or even when a lifetime challenge is involved..

Never trust no one. Even your addictions makes you not to trust yourself.
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October 15, 2023, 12:20:39 PM
#58
I'm a pretty trusting person in life. I generally tend to believe what people are saying, unless they're saying something that I find very suspicious or know it to be wrong. I often give people the benefit of the doubt when I'm not sure. As for a PIN from a debit card, that's obviously not something I'd give a random person, that's just common sense to me. Because if a person's asking that, they're most likely trying to rob me, so why would I help them? But my spouse knows PINs from my cards, and vice versa. I'd also be okay telling my pin to some other family members if I feel like it's the most convenient thing to do in a situation. And yes, I trust the same person with my seed phrase, and I'd be okay sharing it with the same family members when/if it makes sense.

Nowadays, besides Pin-code, SMS confirmation is often required. Regarding trusting family members - any family member can accidentally tell or otherwise disclose the PIN code, so periodic change of the PIN code is highly recommended, if possible. It's just basic caution.
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October 15, 2023, 12:16:50 PM
#57
WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

My wife. I literally share my ATM pin number to her since she holds my ATM(which I voluntarily ask  Cheesy) and also because she is the one who budgets our expenses in the house. I only get part of it as my allowance and the rest will to her budgeting.
[/quote] That's normal, yes? I mean if you're not in the house then someone should handle the budget for y'all? and who do you trust your life with? your wife.

The only time I will not trust my partner is when she is already cheating or she is not responsible enough to manage our budgeting. Seriously, if you can’t trust your partner despite you have kids to sustain then I don’t know what’s wrong with this kind of trust issue anymore.
I believe so, and again that would be our natural instinct as a man. If you wife have a history of cheating in any way then that's the only time it is healthy to mistrust, even not your wife. If someone already broke the trust you gave them then it is only healthy to mistrust someone, even the slightest thing you can have with them.
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October 15, 2023, 12:16:03 PM
#56
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

You can trust many people, but how everyone defines or achieves trust is individual to each situation. There is no hard and fast rule, besides identifying clearly untrustworthy traits which are obvious to most people. Only through life experience can and should you learn who to trust. There are different degrees of trust and even lawful backing if we're talking about business style arrangements. If you involve money in any relationship you have with another person, that can totally change the equation because some people behave differently when it comes to finances. Since you posed the question, you should not be disclosing your pin to anyone - because the banks prohibit it and there's no good reason to do so, you only cast unnecessary suspicion if you were to share it and something went wrong.
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October 15, 2023, 12:01:39 PM
#55
The word trust is the central topic here, when involving trust it has to do with an important thing, and you mentioned seed phrase and your using ATM pin as an example. I will not say I trust someone 100% because anyone can change at any time from my past experience. Trust me the world is so wild, so when involving seed phrase and ATM pin I can trust my family member 95%, most of my family members knows my ATM pin and have not experience any form of scam. Knowing who to trust matters alot. But when it comes to friends I don't give a damn about trust. But the fact here is trust someone at your own risk. But I will prefer keeping my seed phrase as a secret
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October 15, 2023, 11:54:28 AM
#54
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

Personal details like ATM pin, seed phrases should not be shared with others but that doesn't mean you can not trust anyone with such information. One of my friends had my ATM and its pin number. Even he was holding one of my friends cards for a long time. We have never faced any issue. I don't want to share my seed phrase with that same friend which is true but if i do somehow i will trust him to hold that account. If you don't have someone like him in your life thats your bad luck bro. 
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October 15, 2023, 11:39:35 AM
#53
I'm a pretty trusting person in life. I generally tend to believe what people are saying, unless they're saying something that I find very suspicious or know it to be wrong. I often give people the benefit of the doubt when I'm not sure. As for a PIN from a debit card, that's obviously not something I'd give a random person, that's just common sense to me. Because if a person's asking that, they're most likely trying to rob me, so why would I help them? But my spouse knows PINs from my cards, and vice versa. I'd also be okay telling my pin to some other family members if I feel like it's the most convenient thing to do in a situation. And yes, I trust the same person with my seed phrase, and I'd be okay sharing it with the same family members when/if it makes sense.
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October 15, 2023, 11:29:28 AM
#52
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

Simple here, I never even trust a person who is going to ask me for my passwords whether it is of my wallet, my ATM, my bank, etc. I had to never give him any of them to a person.
Because all things are related to security and there should be no compromise on security, even one should not share with his family members, its friends.
But I'm confused about one thing, whenever I die how could be my password known something and my all money will be lost and no one will benefit from it? This could be shown to only one person that I have trusted the more. Otherwise, other ones who are asking for my password or any other I will never give them.
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October 15, 2023, 11:12:43 AM
#51
It doesn't matter if they'd trust me with their pins or not because I know I can be trusted myself but if we are talking viceversa it won't work. I trust no one too. I knew things better than the people around me specially my family, friends or relatives that are vulnerable to any of the common human errors. I am a type of person that is private. I don't even trust my shadow. 😅 Trust issues on movies regarding security could also happen in real life situation that is why I'd better keep my pins with me. My pins my responsibility. Trusting other people with your pins could pose risk.
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October 15, 2023, 10:54:42 AM
#50
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

I don't think I can fully trust any of my friends or family or any relatives, because wealth is something that can sometimes cause confusion in a person's intentions, and even your close relationship can deceive you in greed. .Only yourself can be trusted with complete confidence. Earlier people used to trust each other and people used to be sincere,now people's trust is getting lost. This has happened to me myself, I trusted my close friend and did joint business with him, in which he cheated me for the sake of wealth.

I can give the ATM PIN of a bank account that doesn't have a lot of money to a close relative, but if the account has a lot of money, I will never give my ATM PIN to a close friend or relative. I feel like I can't trust anyone with my seed phrase, because it's always my long-term investment.So I'll try to keep my seed phrase as secret as possible, because it is possible for me to trust someone close to me and tell them and they can't protect my seed phrase.
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October 15, 2023, 10:38:38 AM
#49
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

Thank God....my family can still be completely trusted, they can all be trusted and even help and remind me about finances. I am grateful to have a family I can trust 100%, but outside of my family such as friends and family, I hesitate to trust them. In essence, this comes back to each of you who can judge the family's character, only you yourself can be trusted or not.

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However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

Pins with seed phrases are actually different. Many of my friends know my ATM pin because sometimes after hanging out in cafes when paying they often use my ATM. If they intend to cheat and take my money at the ATM, I can change the pin or we can go to the BANK to ask about the return process. Unlike seed phrases, I cannot return assets, even the wrong ones if I send them can't be taken back. Therefore, you really have to tell the seed of this phrase to the person you trust most, in this case I trust my sibling.
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October 15, 2023, 09:57:17 AM
#48
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
My answer to your question on trust is yes. I can trust my immediate family member and my wife. Based on my upbringing and my relationship with my sibling and what we have been through, I know that they are trustworthy. As for my wife, well of course she's my wife I got married to her in the first place because should anything happen to me she's the first person that will be called so yes I can trust her.

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However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
Yes. My wife and my immediate youger sibling. Aside these people, I do not trust any other person. My ATM pin and my seed phrase will be safe with them because they have knowledge about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
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October 15, 2023, 09:53:30 AM
#47
WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
For ATM pin, I do trust my family to know what's my ATM pin is. Although they know what's my pin, they don't even bother to use it for their own and they will always ask if they need something, it does also applies if I need stuff as well and ask to my family. But for seed phrase? That's just my secret and my family isn't that tech savvy so they don't know what the hell I am talking about and they don't even bother with it.

I guess it just depends on your family condition because every family is different and you can't just fully generalize it.
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October 15, 2023, 09:43:50 AM
#46

WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

It is very difficult to build trust in someone especially when you have seen so much in your life. Trusting with an ATM pin to someone is one thing, while trusting with a seed phrase is another thing, and everyone has a different opinion regarding, who to trust. 

My wife and best friend know about my ATM PINs and bank account details, and I can trust them with my life. They do know about my crypto holdings, where my seed phrases are stored, and how to decode them.

It's really hard to trust someone these days especially if you know their background. Once you learn they did stupid things before, you may really have to think twice before even entrusting some funds. If you have a kid it makes sense that you trust your wife since she will also take care of your kid once you suddenly just drop dead. She can at least get funds for them to live.

But in the current time when banks themselves are insolvent, I would run away from banks and just use BTC which I could also give the seed to my wife.
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October 15, 2023, 09:07:29 AM
#45

WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

It is very difficult to build trust in someone especially when you have seen so much in your life. Trusting with an ATM pin to someone is one thing, while trusting with a seed phrase is another thing, and everyone has a different opinion regarding, who to trust. 

My wife and best friend know about my ATM PINs and bank account details, and I can trust them with my life. They do know about my crypto holdings, where my seed phrases are stored, and how to decode them.
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October 15, 2023, 09:00:37 AM
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Trust is such a big word. It's hard to gain someone's trust to that extend of sharing pin and seedphrase. You can't do that to anybody even if you'd say you trust them. But in my case, some of my family know my bank pin since sometimes they'd be the one who'll withdraw some money from my account. Like my mom. Of course I trust my mom, and even if she'll take some of the money (with my knowledge), I know she'll use it for the family's expenses. Also my gf knows my pin. As for my seedphrase, I share it will my gf because she helps me with crypto related stuff. I share it with her because if ever I can't find where I keep my phrase, I can ask her. Others might won't agree with this since they might think it's too early to share such private info when you're not even married yet but it's just that I trust her. It all depends on how we trust the people around us. If you can trust them with such things.
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October 15, 2023, 08:47:16 AM
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WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

My wife. I literally share my ATM pin number to her since she holds my ATM(which I voluntarily ask  Cheesy) and also because she is the one who budgets our expenses in the house. I only get part of it as my allowance and the rest will to her budgeting.

The only time I will not trust my partner is when she is already cheating or she is not responsible enough to manage our budgeting. Seriously, if you can’t trust your partner despite you have kids to sustain then I don’t know what’s wrong with this kind of trust issue anymore.
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October 15, 2023, 08:39:42 AM
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The answer to this question is simple but if we think deeply we can understand a lot. In today's era, if we talk about the word trust, we will always get its negative aspects, i.e. it is very difficult to trust someone now. Although there are still many good people in this world who deserve to be trusted, this cannot be thought all cases. And the number of those believers who can keep faith is almost limited. But in managing life, we must trust someone. I don't want to give my personal ATM PIN number to anyone just out of trust because I don't want to leave anyone under suspicion. I will not give my seed phrases to anyone. But there is no way without giving it. We have to trust someone and give that phrase, otherwise there will be no ownership in case of an accident. Inheritance we must trust someone.
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October 15, 2023, 08:11:16 AM
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
For this kind of thing, I can only completely entrust two people in my life, the first is my own parents and the second is my life partner because I have been building a household with him for a long time. Apart from that, I cannot completely trust everything, especially in things that need to be kept secret in life. Although I have also seen several cases that have surprised me so far.

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However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
To this I also have to say NO, because my ATM pin may only be known by the bank and my partner personally. Meanwhile, regarding seed phrases, I still can't trust the bank, but I can still trust my partner for this because he really wants to obey what I say, which makes me not afraid to tell him whatever I have been using all this time.
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October 15, 2023, 08:07:30 AM
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Trusting someone with money & sensitive info is not easy. It depends on so many factors such as past experiences, personal judgment& the level of trust between people. Some people find it easy to trust others with money based on their reputation or relationship, others might be more cautious. It's important to assess the person's reliability, financial responsibility & track record before making a decision. Open communication, transparency & establishing clear expectations can help build trust in financial matters.
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October 15, 2023, 07:54:25 AM
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Well, I have seen a lot of comments here, and I am pretty happy to read a lot of them. It is quite interesting though, like some have nobody to trust and others have maybe 1 person or more. Yes, sometimes we don't have to trust someone with something special, but there are things we should learn to trust some person for, but not totally.

If we talk about money, a lot of people don't joke about it. People don't trust anyone with their money. However, I have two people who I trust with my funds. My mum is the number one person and my mum also trust me too.

Part of the money that I used to invest in Bitcoin was given to me by my parents (30% of it) but the rest of the money was mine, so what I am about to say is that, if my parents didn't trust me they wouldn't add their money to mine, so I can invest them in Bitcoin. That's what we call trust. There are people who their parents can't give a dime because they have no trust. It's good to trust someone a little bit and not completely.

I already know that a fiat bank pin and a seed phrase are two different things, but the reason why I mentioned them is that they are a bit similar. A fiat bank account contains money and a wallet seed phrase also contains money.

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October 15, 2023, 07:31:17 AM
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
It depends on the people closest to you such as family, friends and others who seem to have an untrustworthy nature. Meanwhile, I personally am not someone who is too easily suspicious. I mean for certain reasons, for example as a financial holder, my family has access to take it, in this case my wife. Maybe as I said, it comes back to how you apply an attitude of trust in other people. I also don't immediately give access without having a specific reason. Only certain people, because what I do is have an alternative if something undesirable happens such as death or an accident, so I need a second party to take care of it.
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October 15, 2023, 07:06:02 AM
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

It is very difficult to be able to give trust to other people. If only everyone was able to behave honestly and responsibly, perhaps there would be no such thing as a statement letter and there would be no such thing as a memorandum of understanding because everyone would behave honestly and responsibly. And maybe stamp paper won't sell on the market and there's no such thing as an oath of office.

It is true that being able to provide trust is very difficult, but we also cannot act alone because the role of other people is needed to make a job easier. And if we want to be trusted by other people, we must also be able to give trust to other people so that mutual trust can arise in each other.
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October 15, 2023, 06:28:08 AM
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so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
My partner in life is the one I trust the most. We've spent 10 years together; I know her better than anyone. She's not someone that can easily be blinded with money as she is really responsible on where to spend money, she knows her priorities and we're open to each other when it comes to money. And yes, I am 100% that I can trust my partner with my seed phrase. She can take care of it and use it not only for herself but also for our family.

It's really hard to find someone whom you can really trust. You have to know how to know what's inside their mind and their intention whether they can easily be blinded by money or not. If ever that you can't find someone, the only choice is your parents.

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October 15, 2023, 06:01:15 AM
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I understand what you mean, you are trying to suggest that we should not just trust third parties about the money we have in our wallets, in other words other people should not have access to the accounts we have because anyone cannot be trusted, even if they are in a close relationship. family.

In principle, of course I don't trust anyone in financial matters and that's why I'm interested in Bitcoin, but for the fact that I can't close myself in the system that exists in this world, where third parties are one of the popular ones used in finance. , while there are clear regulations and legal defense of customers, I prioritize using several banks to store my cash.

For wives and others, I have budgeted their monthly expenses, both general and personal needs, still in finances, even though wives must know that we save our money, but don't give them access.
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October 15, 2023, 04:39:27 AM
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The only person I entrust with something as crucial as my ATM PIN or seed phrase is my mother. I would never feel any loss if my mother were to know the entirety of my financial holdings and withdraw some money to purchase something for herself. My mother's education may not be extensive, and she's not even aware of how to access my Bitcoin wallet, despite my attempts to instruct her from the ground up.

As of now, my ATM PIN is known to my mother and a few other family members, including my older sister. Since I treat my ATM card as I do my own money, there has never been a significant withdrawal that has placed a burden on me. We hold mutual respect for each other's feelings within the family. Besides, my mother always consults me when she needs money, so I do not harbor any unusual concerns that would lead me to negative thoughts about the misuse of my ATM.
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October 15, 2023, 04:28:10 AM
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However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

That's right, I think we all here have our own bank accounts which are needed to carry out fiat transactions. Btw, it seems like you are the typical person who is very careful, but that's normal in my opinion, because in terms of trust, it should not be given just like that, especially in urgent conditions/circumstances because it concerns finances or security.

So, in my opinion, if you force it, it will have serious consequences and there is no guarantee that everything will be fine, especially in a more technical context such as using an ATM PIN or seed phrase (both of these things are very important confidential information). Yes. as you said above, it is true that winnings are not allowed to be given haphazardly, but maybe it's different if the assets are zero and it's not a special account, in my opinion that's okay.
     
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October 15, 2023, 04:12:35 AM
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Trusting individuals is not easy because people have continuously abuse their trust, so I think if somebody has to confined in you or trust you, you have to prove to the person that you are worth it, even though most times people pretend in other to gain that trust which is fake.

The recent happening and individual character have made it almost impossible for trust to exist, I don't think anybody should be blamed for it, is just the way things has turned to be, to me 100% is no no thing, unless we are talking about giving benefit of doubt, is in human nature to betray so we can't change that fact, the only thing is, we should be mindful of what we do and be careful.

In the aspect of trusting some with your transaction details, be it seed phrase or code, when you are doing this, you should know that anything can happen because you are dealing with a human being that can change due to either seeking for advice from others or doing what comes to their mind not minding what may come out of it, I must be sincere I have trust issues that's why I can only give 20% out of 100%.
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October 15, 2023, 04:12:09 AM
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It's really hard to give something that is hard to give to someone since it can be easily broken, once broken it's really hard to gave a second chance. I guess this would depends on the person experience, if they already experienced betrayal  in many things waste their trust. For me, I can't really trust anyone even my family, but since they are the one who's with me from the start, I still trust them, it's already on their conscience to do bad deed. Imagine you saved a lot in crypto or bank but they used it wisely in emergency right, I think that's tolerable.
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Giving 100% trust to relatives, friends, and family may be difficult, especially when we have been betrayed by those close to us. But at least we can trust some close people around us, especially our family.

I trust my family members and will give my seed phrases to them later. But I will not share that seed phrase with my friends, even if they are my closest friends. My crypto assets are for my family and I really trust them and so do they trust me very much.

So there is no problem for me not to entrust the seed phrase to them. But the seed phrase and ATM pin are different. Each of us has a different bank account.
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October 15, 2023, 03:52:58 AM
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Faith and caution are two different things. You may have a trusted person in your family but it is never right to share your security stuff with him. Always try to keep your privacy to yourself. You may have a good relationship with another person today, but after some time when his relationship with you becomes distant due to some reason, he will try to blackmail you with your secrets. Where fathers are being murdered by children and brothers are fighting over land, it would be unwise to share bank PINs or any other important information with others. I never like to share my personal things with others nor am I interested in knowing about other people's personal things so I am like myself in this respect.
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October 15, 2023, 03:18:27 AM
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People find it difficult to trust someone because their trust has been taken for granted in the past by those they trusted, so trusting someone again seems impossible to them, but trust is still worth giving to others, although we can't guarantee what's in the heart.
I quite agree with your take here and I should say they aren't to be blamed. Trust is like an eraser, the more pieces chop off, the more it becomes hard to regain.
In terms of disclosing your PIN to a loved one or even a trusted friend is a matter of personal decision. Some find it difficult to hand over such sensitive detail to someone because they fear it can enter the wrong hands and since some are not aware that this can be changed if such happens, they prefer to not take chances.
 Well, in this day and age where scammers are getting innovative, I feel it takes more than just not disclosing your PIN to another person to keep your funds intact. Truth is, the best way for me to ensure my funds are intact is to not even use the traditional banking methods because they are centralized and can decide one morning to lock your money or can decide the amount to enter.
 
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October 15, 2023, 02:18:04 AM
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People find it difficult to trust someone because their trust has been taken for granted in the past by those they trusted, so trusting someone again seems impossible to them, but trust is still worth giving to others, although we can't guarantee what's in the heart.

We should at least give some people who are worth trusting that trust, not up to 100%, as you can only trust yourself up to that extent, but trusting someone 100% is risky and not advisable no matter the relationship you have with the person.
 
If you are to go into any business deal with someone, you need to give them a little trust, as that's what can create a working business relationship.

One needs to trust the other before that can work. Even here in the forum, there is a level of trust to some extent between members. Trust might be a tricky thing, but until the person proves to you that they can't be trusted, still give them that chance and see how it turns out to be.
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This quite reminds me of the discussion about why we should all drop our Bitcoin wallet to the ones we love so that it doesn't go to waste, do you really know that if your home is free of an enemy the enemies outside can't get you? When your family is full of bad people or people you just can't trust you should build a family, your own family, and have your children, if you can't trust your wife or husband you will have a kid you can at least trust.

I believe your ATM card pin should be safe with your partner if you trust them, or your kid if you trust them, it's all about trust just like you said and you have to make sure there is trust before taking any money step or you will be betrayed.

There are many rich men then died without letting their families get ahold of their money, they only left behind their properties for them, it's because they believed it would be the cause of hate and even wars within the family.

ATM PIN code should be private though, you don't have to share with anyone but if you see the need to do that it's fine, and that is if you trust the other person.
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October 15, 2023, 01:59:20 AM
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My father gave me his personal bank account details, ATM Pin, debit card, etc. He trusts me! if you want to learn something just learn from <and about seed phrase obviously yes because investment amount in bitcoin will always be less than savings account or properties.
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there's reason why banks are always warning you from disclosing your ATM pin to someone else, its for your own money security so that it won't get stolen and even it indeed got stolen you know its not your mistake.
thats the thing with money, no one could really held back from the desire of getting money, even if its your close relative.
you might be having some significant one that you can trust but thats only if you're okay with it and knowing the consequences.
i personally would never trust my ATM pin to other people same with my wallet, who knows they might be taking advantage of me and its just for peace of mind thing.
It's hard to gain trust when it comes to something so private. However, in my opinion, things that are very private also need to be told to someone, just like ATM pins or passwords on various platforms.

As humans we know what will happen in the future, if we get sick or even die then it is very necessary to have someone we trust most to be able to access all these platforms. So it makes perfect sense for my wife to be the person I trust most in all things (if it goes normally).
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October 15, 2023, 01:27:46 AM
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  WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
Presently, I have someone I trust with my ATM pin, but what I want you to understand is that an ATM pin is different from a seed phrase because an ATM pin is just a 4-digit pin that is used to withdraw money through an ATM machine. With an ATM pin, you need the ATM card to withdraw, and again, you can change your ATM pin at any time you wish to. while seed phrase is different because, as we all know, seed phrase is a 12 or 24 word that is randomly generated and provided to you when you create a cryptocurrency wallet, and it is used to backup in case you lose access to your wallet or you want to restore it to a new or different device. Again, it cannot be charged, so if someone has access to your seed phrase, that means he has access to your wallet, and you can’t change it even though you are not more together with the person. That is why we emphasise that you should keep your seed phrase private.
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
I'm not sure, but each person's life is different and each person has countless questions, so it creates a difference, the belief for a specific issue is different from the belief for others. for the object the OP mentioned. Just like you said, I don't completely believe in it. It's only when I test it myself that that belief can be built. I still remember an excerpt from a teacher that I greatly admire even when even if you worship them, don't rush to believe their opinions, but check for yourself to see if they are true.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
This problem pertains to physical property, and for me it's much simpler to fully accept that it's being used by someone I trust to use it properly, knowing the information. There's no problem with that secret information. But what we consider confidential information is actually to me simply the complexity of controlling behavior. If we could witness everyone lovingly helping and sharing each other's difficulties, it would be better. There will no longer be doubt, jealousy, greed,... and material assets will also be seen as a tool to support each other, not something we try to find a way to protect and keep .
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October 15, 2023, 12:52:49 AM
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Trust is a tricky thing, but we really do need it in our lives. There's that saying, 'no man is an island,' and it's spot on. We trust our family, right? But the level of trust can vary, depending on what we're trusting them with. Like, when it comes to your money, your ATM balance, that's your personal stash, and you'd better guard that with your life. But there might be times when you need someone else to make a withdrawal for you, and that's when you're really putting your trust in them since they can't do it without your PIN.

Now, when we're talking about seeds, it's a bit like the principle with an ATM PIN. Those seeds are like the keys to your funds, and without them, nothing's moving.
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October 15, 2023, 12:40:29 AM
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.


Life is inherently fair, if in this world you can't trust anyone, don't expect or blame others when they don't trust you either. Trust is created from mutual trust, so whether you have people to trust and whether people trust you or not depends on how you live and treat people. Always look at yourself before blaming anyone.

I have a lot of people that I trust 100% and I'm sure they trust me too. Especially my mother, wife and children, I have never hidden anything from them and vice versa. It would be funny if we live in the same house, see each other every day, but don't trust each other at all. I wouldn't consider it family life.
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
Trusting your friend or family member means you give your own control to him and the secrets are not only yours now but without trust you can not go ahead and you have to trust the persons who are coming into your life whether they are in school, work or somewhere else you have to be cooperative. But in the case of ATM pin or walled seed, you do have not to trust one person even your brothers because money(greed) can change the view of their thinking. It is very risky and you don't know that he or she may keep it save or use it against you and my thoughts in this is to just rely and trust on yourselves not on the friends and relatives and the relatives are more dangerous  Grin they always looking for your weakness. So from regretting, it is good for not trusting humans as humans have a greedy nature and this last sentence I think is enough for the justification to not trust friends, family, or relatives.
Before we choose to trust someone, it is better for us to first see what the person's character is, whether it is appropriate for us to trust him or not, but if it is related to the ATM pin, then I will never tell anyone except my parents because if someone My parents take the money I earn, so I will not be angry as long as it is used for my parents' needs, but if it is for other people, but if I give it to relatives or friends, then if the money I have is used without my knowledge, of course I will be angry and this will be a problem. which is not good for friendships, it would be better if I didn't tell my friends.
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Trusting someone is certainly not an easy thing, even if it is our sibling and I think in this case we trust our parents or siblings more because in my opinion the closest people are parents and siblings because parents and siblings are related by blood. which of course is the only thing that can be used as a trustworthy first choice.

but it cannot be denied that we are social creatures who certainly need other people in life in this world, but in this case I think the most important thing is intelligence in managing the economy and in my opinion we should not be too afraid of the risk of loss because usually every thing we do always cannot be separated from the risk of loss.

and regarding the ATM pin number, in my opinion we are forced to trust someone even though in our minds there is always a feeling of distrust, but in this case of course we are forced to trust other people because we are social creatures who of course need each other. so enjoy this life, don't be too afraid of risks and most importantly don't put your money in one place, the point is we have to be good at managing strategies.
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
Trusting your friend or family member means you give your own control to him and the secrets are not only yours now but without trust you can not go ahead and you have to trust the persons who are coming into your life whether they are in school, work or somewhere else you have to be cooperative. But in the case of ATM pin or walled seed, you do have not to trust one person even your brothers because money(greed) can change the view of their thinking. It is very risky and you don't know that he or she may keep it save or use it against you and my thoughts in this is to just rely and trust on yourselves not on the friends and relatives and the relatives are more dangerous  Grin they always looking for your weakness. So from regretting, it is good for not trusting humans as humans have a greedy nature and this last sentence I think is enough for the justification to not trust friends, family, or relatives.
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October 14, 2023, 08:23:34 PM
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there's reason why banks are always warning you from disclosing your ATM pin to someone else, its for your own money security so that it won't get stolen and even it indeed got stolen you know its not your mistake.
thats the thing with money, no one could really held back from the desire of getting money, even if its your close relative.
you might be having some significant one that you can trust but thats only if you're okay with it and knowing the consequences.
i personally would never trust my ATM pin to other people same with my wallet, who knows they might be taking advantage of me and its just for peace of mind thing.
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October 14, 2023, 06:46:18 PM
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Ok so it's about Trust and you can't trust your friends, family relatives, or anyone else.
Maybe the percentage is a little bit different
Friends with 50% trust because not all friends are good
Siblings with 70% trust, because some siblings are not all good
Family with 90%-95% trust because some families are not on the same page.

But there are people I really trust, even more than 100%, maybe 1000%.
That is my WIFE, she even controls everything including my life, and takes care of me and my child.
Even take me to invest, my wife knows everything.
Remember about this rule, "HUSBAND'S money is WIFE'S money and WIFE'S money is WIFE'S money" LOL

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October 14, 2023, 06:33:10 PM
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Well that's on you and the people you've been with if you can't trust anyone anymore. I've been with scheming and people who are not trustworthy but between them and the overwhelming amount of people that I know I can trust and count on, I'm pretty sure I'm good. Friends for the most part, family not so much but this is only in the case of business matters as none of them are that much versed in the world of entrepreneurship and they might just fuck things up. People I care most about are trustworthy and I've witnessed that from years of interaction with them, oftentimes with money involved in the equation. I feel sorry for you that you can't trust people anymore as much as most of us could, to which I say you should find new friends you can actually trust.
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October 14, 2023, 06:15:04 PM
#13
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions.
Every question has an answer, but the answer that you will get varies depending on whom you direct the question to. This is what I believe.

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Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

Trusting someone is based on the individual. There are people who trust so easily that no matter the kind of experience that they have had in the past, they don't allow that to affect how they place people; they still give everyone the benefit of doubt and allow them to prove that they are not worthy of being trusted before they can be distrusted by those people.
 
Me personally, if I'm to talk about trusting someone, I have a limit to who I trust based on what kind of thing I'm putting my trust in them for. When it comes to people who can get work done for me, I have people who I trust in that aspect, and when it comes to anything relating to money, I also have people who can handle that and will not fail me, as I have tested my close friends and relatives and put everyone in their place. Trusting someone is easy, although people are likely to change in no time, but giving them that little trust but still being cautious at the same time won't do much of a great harm that can't be repaired.
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October 14, 2023, 05:31:33 PM
#12
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

Giving trust depends on you, and there are a lot of people who easily give 100% trust. One of them is those people who, even if they don't know 100%, immediately give their full trust to more than their family, relatives, and close friends.

These are the people who fall victim to Ponzi schemes, large sums of thousands of dollars that they entrust because of the greed that existed and entered their thoughts, so they gave full trust because of the thought that they would make money immediately or their capital would grow in a short time.

Now, I can easily give trust when I know if I love the person and if it is important to me. One of them is my wife and my best friend, whom I trust 100% with the seed phrase or private key that I have.
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October 14, 2023, 05:09:04 PM
#11
It’s based on the way of approach by you towards him.If your friend is loyal one in all the situation,then he indirectly build the trust on you.So if he made by the normal way,it be good for you.So you can trust him till he goes beyond your trust.But if he acting to build your trust means,then you should find the same in the initial stage.So you get away from the big scam by the trusted person.The relative is not the trusted person at any point.Because they find you had money,if they find you had money.They do some screenplay to get the money from you at all the point.
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October 14, 2023, 04:47:50 PM
#10
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

People trust for some reasons, they trust naturally or after someone ha done something for them but all in all, it's not enough to give human all the trust because they are human. They can be in a inconvenient situation tomorrow and can compromise you, only few of them are gems out there that will not see you for anything no matter what is put on the table; So if you must trust, you also need to be careful of people bit personally, I don't trust people but I share this bond with my family that they will not betray me, I have been there many times and they have given what worth more than anything I could I ever have.

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However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

There are things that are supposed to be kept within me, they are private and nobody not even my family are meant to have access to it. What do you need my ATM pin for? Why should I trust you with my seed phrase? There is none. My investment or savings is my responsibility unless may be my wife want to have access to it which I can be cool with so long that we have children together, I can do it for that sake but not my brother, sisters or father and mother. They will probably ignore me if I ask them there pin or seed phrase.
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October 14, 2023, 04:41:06 PM
#9
My wife holds all my ATM cards and she knows the pin 🤣
She can't for any day go touch any money without my permission or without her calling me for doing that, in fact my wife is more economical than me when it comes of money and most times whenever I request for my card she will say " Daddy that thing you are requesting for your card does it worth spending that money"? I will like, I have to reason twice maybe if I don't see any need then I will just have to seat back and let it be. Any man who can entrust his ATM card and pin to his wife can actually entrust his private keys or seedphrase and there are nothing to worry about except you guys are into contract marriage where she gave birth for you and you settles her to leave by this you can't entrust any of your properties to your spouse, Fiance or whatever.
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October 14, 2023, 04:29:26 PM
#8
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
Its kind a funny, but two of my brothers, and 1 cousin do know my ATM pin, the reason is I keep nothing in my bank account haha  Cheesy and the reason of not sharing the seed phrase is, I kept all of my funds in crypto. Well, I did wrote seed phrase somewhere and have told my youngest brother about it just in case of sudden death or unexpected events. Otherwise, I will also not trust anyone.

And in fact we should not, a recent scam occur with one a friend, who is scammed by his friend, and the scam was around 85 lac ($30623.96), well, if the amount would not be gone, then he could buy 1+ BTC easily at the current rate. The thing is, he trusted his friend with his bank and allowed him to use it and he withdrew all the funds and flew away to Malaysia, the thing is he was his friend for the last 15 years.

I learnt a lot from this, but still scared of the world out there, we can not predict what is going on the other's head, even though, you are so close to them.
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October 14, 2023, 04:25:42 PM
#7
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
When it comes to trust then i do only trust my wife but it does really have that certain extent on which there's a limitation specially on funding. I do always have that separate savings. I cant really
entrust all of the money that i do have because we know that life doesnt have guarantees. Im not assuming for some divorce or breaking up the family since i dont really like for it to happen but since
life is nothing certain then you cant really be able to make yourself that too confident that everything would last forever or simply having that no trust but not completely.

Speaking about ATM pin and entrusting your PK on your crypto wallet then its not the same. I would rather be entrusting my ATM pin but not my PK in my wallet. Cheesy
This is where my hidden or secret savings been kept in form of crypto or Bitcoin which my wife isnt aware about it and this is why it would really be just that
fine that you should really be that keeping it as a secret but on time of emergencies or in need then you do have that back up funds too which is good.
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October 14, 2023, 04:22:09 PM
#6
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

No I cannot trust a person with 100% trust.  I can trust my parents with my things even my money and anything that has something to do with finances.  I can also confide with them but there are some experiences that needs to be private.

WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

I can trust my parents with my ATM pin same goes with the private key of my cryptocurrency wallet address.  I am still single, although I am incline to trust my gf with my ATM pin, but I won't be revealing it to her unless she asked me to.
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October 14, 2023, 04:19:11 PM
#5
WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
Bank pin and seed phrase are two different things. You can easily change your bank pin, so you may just easily trust someone with it, but you cannot change your seed phrase, so if you give someone, the person will have access to your wallet until that wallet is abandoned. It is not wise to give someone your bank pin, it is more unwise to share your seed phrase with someone friend or even family because trust can always be easily broken, and you cannot guarantee that someone asides you will not betray you. Trust only yourself, trust nobody.
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October 14, 2023, 04:08:24 PM
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It's not a problem for me since I do have a friend or family that I can trust with that important matter.

I'm grateful that I have these kinds of people who I believed won't do some bullshit on me especially when it comes to money. But I know in reality and it really exists in most parts of the globe that there are families and even close friends that have a history of distrust even how solid the relationship is just because of money.

Anyway, I do have someone who knows where my personal keys are stored such as PINs, bank account passwords, and even Seedphrase. Even if I will bet my life on it, nothing bullshit will happen to my private belongings because of that said person I have mentioned. I do understand though that there are people who have trust issues toward someone because of a bad experience.
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October 14, 2023, 04:05:32 PM
#3
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
I know my family and friends to some extent. If I was told that one of my family members or friends of mine did something bad, I would know if he or she can do it or not. We see ourselves, talk together, live together to know one another. But with how life is, you can not give anyone 100% trust, even your dad and mum can not have the 100% trust when you do not even give yourself 100% trust. Anyone that give himself 100% trust is only lying to himself.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
Maybe that is a problem with me, I trust no one. But if it about ATM pin, I have the ones that I can give my family member or friend to help me withdraw from. If it is seed phrase, I trust no one, unless I have inheritance plan, which would be more of a way things would be done appropriately than trust.
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October 14, 2023, 03:58:29 PM
#2
The thing called trust is indeed very difficult to build and giving trust to other people is not an easy matter because being able to judge someone's good and bad takes a lot of time. However, the easiest way we can find out whether our friend can be trusted or not is by lending him a certain amount of money, if he can return the money according to the agreement or provide clarification/logical reasons as to why he is unable to pay off his debt, then Maybe we can trust that person. However, if the person continues to make unclear speculations and continues to avoid us when they collect their debt, it can be concluded that we cannot trust that person.

And once again, giving trust is not an easy matter. However, as social creatures we need each other, we cannot do everything just by relying on ourselves, especially in the world of work which requires good teamwork so that a goal can be achieved. And to be able to form good teamwork, that is by trusting each other.
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October 14, 2023, 03:36:29 PM
#1
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
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