is it possible to restore wallet only with seed ?

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Quote from: Snorek on January 12, 2016, 09:58:59 AM

Quote from: shorena on January 12, 2016, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: franky1 on January 12, 2016, 08:30:41 AM

Quote from: Curious8 on January 12, 2016, 08:11:48 AM

Can you give examples for wallets who make it possible ?

https://www.bitcoin.com/choose-your-wallet/multibit

if you want just a temporary store, there is blockchain.info

if you want a hardware wallet there is trezor, keepkey, ledgerwallet nano, case

I think they are looking for a wallet that is using the same kind of seed than electrum and as such can restore from an electrum seed. I dont think there is such a wallet, unless you know enough to convert the seed

-> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deterministic-wallet-compatibility-matrix-1000544

So seeds of wallets have different standards and are not compatible with each other at all? I find it rather strange that wallet developers didn't come up with one standard of seed restoration method.
It is that way for technical reasons (it is hard to unify standard) or developers just care about that function?

You can get the private key for each electrum address by right clicking it and selecting "private key" on the menu. If a new version of electrum uses a different seed restoration method to your old one you can import a list of private keys from your old wallet. Updating would be awkward but not impossible.

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Quote from: Outlander on January 12, 2016, 09:51:00 AM

Quote from: Gyrsur on January 12, 2016, 08:17:39 AM

Quote from: Curious8 on January 12, 2016, 08:14:13 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on January 12, 2016, 08:12:54 AM

Your wallet can be entirely recovered from its seed. For this, select the “restore wallet” option in the startup.

Read more: http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/faq.html

so no need in backup the file itself ?

best way in every case is to test any approach and see if it is working. after this is sucessfull you can use it in production.

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Quote from: shorena on January 12, 2016, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: franky1 on January 12, 2016, 08:30:41 AM

Quote from: Curious8 on January 12, 2016, 08:11:48 AM

Can you give examples for wallets who make it possible ?

https://www.bitcoin.com/choose-your-wallet/multibit

if you want just a temporary store, there is blockchain.info

if you want a hardware wallet there is trezor, keepkey, ledgerwallet nano, case

I think they are looking for a wallet that is using the same kind of seed than electrum and as such can restore from an electrum seed. I dont think there is such a wallet, unless you know enough to convert the seed

-> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deterministic-wallet-compatibility-matrix-1000544

So seeds of wallets have different standards and are not compatible with each other at all? I find it rather strange that wallet developers didn't come up with one standard of seed restoration method.
It is that way for technical reasons (it is hard to unify standard) or developers just care about that function?

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Quote from: Gyrsur on January 12, 2016, 08:17:39 AM

Quote from: Curious8 on January 12, 2016, 08:14:13 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on January 12, 2016, 08:12:54 AM

Your wallet can be entirely recovered from its seed. For this, select the “restore wallet” option in the startup.

Read more: http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/faq.html

so no need in backup the file itself ?

best way in every case is to test any approach and see if it is working. after this is sucessfull you can use it in production.

(from: Lessons of Life)

You cannot test all of the proven theory in reality. If you have doubt, you can comsult this community which will be helpful to clarify your confusion. As long as you can accept it, you jist apply them.

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Quote from: franky1 on January 12, 2016, 09:45:22 AM

Quote from: shorena on January 12, 2016, 09:37:48 AM

I think they are looking for a wallet that is using the same kind of seed than electrum and as such can restore from an electrum seed. I dont think there is such a wallet, unless you know enough to convert the seed

-> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deterministic-wallet-compatibility-matrix-1000544

multibit uses high deterministic seeds
blockchain.info uses high deterministic seeds
and so do hard ware wallets..

Be that is may, Electrums mnemonic is not used by any other wallet. Not even Electrum 2, but its able to work with electrum 1.x seeds.

Electrum 2 and Mycelium use the same master private key, but you would need to extract that from the mnemonic first (hence my "know enough to covert the seed").

See the excel sheet in the linked thread.

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Quote from: shorena on January 12, 2016, 09:37:48 AM

I think they are looking for a wallet that is using the same kind of seed than electrum and as such can restore from an electrum seed. I dont think there is such a wallet, unless you know enough to convert the seed

-> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deterministic-wallet-compatibility-matrix-1000544

multibit uses high deterministic seeds
blockchain.info uses high deterministic seeds
and so do hard ware wallets..

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: franky1 on January 12, 2016, 08:30:41 AM

Quote from: Curious8 on January 12, 2016, 08:11:48 AM

Can you give examples for wallets who make it possible ?

https://www.bitcoin.com/choose-your-wallet/multibit

if you want just a temporary store, there is blockchain.info

if you want a hardware wallet there is trezor, keepkey, ledgerwallet nano, case

I think they are looking for a wallet that is using the same kind of seed than electrum and as such can restore from an electrum seed. I dont think there is such a wallet, unless you know enough to convert the seed

-> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deterministic-wallet-compatibility-matrix-1000544

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Quote from: Curious8 on January 12, 2016, 08:11:48 AM

Can you give examples for wallets who make it possible ?

https://www.bitcoin.com/choose-your-wallet/multibit

if you want just a temporary store, there is blockchain.info

if you want a hardware wallet there is trezor, keepkey, ledgerwallet nano, case

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Quote from: Curious8 on January 12, 2016, 08:14:13 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on January 12, 2016, 08:12:54 AM

Your wallet can be entirely recovered from its seed. For this, select the “restore wallet” option in the startup.

Read more: http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/faq.html

so no need in backup the file itself ?

best way in every case is to test any approach and see if it is working. after this is sucessfull you can use it in production.

(from: Lessons of Life)

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Quote from: Holdaaja on January 12, 2016, 08:12:54 AM

Your wallet can be entirely recovered from its seed. For this, select the “restore wallet” option in the startup.

Read more: http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/faq.html

so no need in backup the file itself ?

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Your wallet can be entirely recovered from its seed. For this, select the “restore wallet” option in the startup.

Read more: http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/faq.html

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Quote from: franky1 on January 12, 2016, 08:09:05 AM

yes

but not all bitcoin programs have High deterministic methods (seed import) yet.
but there are enough out there already to make a fair choice of different options

Can you give examples for wallets who make it possible ?

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Yes, you can surely restore your wallet with just typing the 12 or 24 word seed key

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yes

but not all bitcoin programs have High deterministic methods (seed import) yet.
but there are enough out there already to make a fair choice of different options

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is it possible to restore wallet only withe seed ? without backup the json file
i mean if i remmember the seed of electrum im safe and can use it in other wallets ?

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