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mohammedmattar

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Quote from: odolvlobo on July 02, 2018, 12:27:20 AM

All of these conspiracy theories about manipulation by "whales" is irrational and stupid. It's all just a part of a paranoid fantasy. There is no evidence -- only conjecture and speculation. Nobody can even come up with a solid scenario about how or why it might be done.

Get a grip! Get a life!

Let me disagree with you
Only see that the media war at intervals on the BTC
And hacking of wallets, platforms and paid articles around btc bubble
All these weapons against BTC are not enough to explain to you that there are those who exploit them
To reduce the price of the currency to buy at the price he wants ?
Let the dreams of the virtuous city
we live in a forest

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Quote from: mohammedmattar on June 25, 2018, 07:24:49 PM

Some say some forces are working to lower prices
So that some whales can enter the market at excellent prices
Do you agree with that?

Yes, I agree with that because this is what we called manipulation by the big whales. Big whales always try to panic out amateurs so that they get their determined cheap price level and they get their trade entered at the right time. They are the forces which bring the market down to buy the crypto-coin at low prices. Remember one thing that professional buyers always buy the cryptocurrency at the lowest market price by flushing out the small traders out of the trade and it is has been seen many times in the trading history.

shampapk1988

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Yes this can be the fact and this is really a matter to worry. If more whales enter into bitcoin they will make it more inconsistent just for their own profit. I am really tensed.

billsted86

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These are the same people who want to benefit. The fact that you lose money because of this it is a side effect. I think in recent times price will decrease and many investors are waiting for high price and they expect it will happen quickly.

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Hopefuly its about time lets put end to this dump im getting poor hodl

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Quote from: silviyako on July 02, 2018, 10:00:12 AM

i think so. these whales are using their tons of coins to cause panic and to lower the value of the crypto.

Most whales aren't even in crypto yet. In my opinion more regulation -> more whales (and more overall investments in cryptocurrenices).
Probably investors with money are waiting for crypto to get to a lower price so they have better entry point, but I wonder how low will it go.

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The last 2 days there has been an interesting activity. There are increased volumes. This situation may be a hint at the turnaround of the market. Especially the prices are now very attractive.

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Quote from: mohammedmattar on June 25, 2018, 07:24:49 PM

Some say some forces are working to lower prices
So that some whales can enter the market at excellent prices
Do you agree with that?

Whales are always around the corner if they want to seek any chance like this. But this time I do feel that it was major bad news like many big exchangers getting hacked and stealing cases of ether wallets affecting the market as whole and thus putting tags on bitcoin too. I guess this year started with some worst case scenarios like Mt. Gox dumping, countries banning the ICO's on major scale, FUD of Korea Banning the crypto etc. This continuously hampered the market and as whole it dropped to the value that we see today. Nothing special about it if you check the last year.

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These are just conjectures and who can not know for sure. I think that everything is possible in this market. But you need to be very careful.

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Maybe this could be true. They can be monitoring prices so that they could enter at low prices yet I guess with the maturity of the investors now who are day trading they might just lose their money. Small investors now a days are not holding much. You can observed it in the graphs. At a very small rise in value they immediately sell their coins. So when there is a sharp rise in value, what follows is a sudden drop also. It is no longer that profitable to follow the hype and hold.

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Quote from: silviyako on July 02, 2018, 10:00:12 AM

i think so. these whales are using their tons of coins to cause panic and to lower the value of the crypto.

Does that make any sense? Suppose you own a lot of bitcoins. Would you want their value to go down? No. You would want their value to go up. That's how you make money.

silviyako

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i think so. these whales are using their tons of coins to cause panic and to lower the value of the crypto.

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We at the dawn of a new phase in Bitcoin's history, where institutional investment from pretty big financial investors, might be entering the market soon. It would make sense for them to enter at a much lower price point, once the red tape has been finalized. A lot of these investors have been secretly buying and trading bitcoins for years with their own money

At this stage most of this is basically conspiracy theories, but the talks in the passageways are that serious investors are preparing for something big and they want to enter at a much lower price to benefit the most, when this happens. I would not be selling any significant amount of coins, if I was a big hoarder now. ^smile^

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Quote from: poorwhale on July 01, 2018, 11:54:38 PM

Its price manipulation by whales.,

We don't know the reason why, its just an speculation but of course it is still possible. Also include those who panicked during the bear market, they contributed a lot to dump the market. This is the best entry for everyone not just for the whales, don't be scared to them just go with the flow and don't ever panic, ride with them.

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Yes if I think this year has not been a good year for Bitcoin so far. The Fud around Bitcoin and cryptocurrancy is huge and it's really a competitive price. In following the market the best way to protect yourself, because anyone who has the power can push prices up and down.

odolvlobo

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All of these conspiracy theories about manipulation by "whales" is irrational and stupid. It's all just a part of a paranoid fantasy. There is no evidence -- only conjecture and speculation. Nobody can even come up with a solid scenario about how or why it might be done.

Get a grip! Get a life!

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Of course you are right; definitely. It is all the game plan of big speculators whom you call big whales. Only they were behind to price rise when the cost of one bitcoin touched 21k. Now also when the prices are falling down and down the same forces are active.
They created sentiments @21k when small investors buying very costly bitcoin with their hard earned money. Now the same drama is being played. Negative rumors are being spread with the objective that small investors sell their entire holdings.
Circle will move always.

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Bitcoin is just experiencing one of its common fluctuations, +/- 10%, this isn't really an indicator of anything substantial, just trading roughly sideways. If it drops more than 10%, then you can assume we have entered into another bear phase, and we might see sub $6,000 again. Similarly if it pushes to about $7,300 we might see another rally back past $10,000.

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Quote from: mohammedmattar on June 25, 2018, 07:24:49 PM

Some say some forces are working to lower prices
So that some whales can enter the market at excellent prices
Do you agree with that?

Anybody is free to say what he/she feels its the right explanation. It would also be surprising to see that the same whales that is being blamed for the downward trend in price would also be blamed when the price is taking a positive vibe as "they are pumping the price and you need to be careful". What really matter is what do you believe to be true because whatever happens some people will lose while others will gain eventually. You are then left to determine which part of the lot do you want to belong to at the time when the dust settles which would happen.

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this price is either the bottom or very close to the bottom which means it is the time to accumulate bitcoin and that means entry for whales and every other wise investor who wants to get ready for the upcoming rally.

i don't know what you call it "pre" entry since they are already in and buying more. it is not like whales wait for the rise to enter. they enter at the bottom and the rest (usually the weak hands who FOMO buy) enter after the rise starts.

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Quote from: -Sinner- on June 28, 2018, 01:31:55 AM

I absolutely agree, but also if they try to push it down, it is not so easy and seems that 5500-6000$ is a good support, and we will never go below probably..
Did you notice all the good news out there? And the market didn't move, zero! I think that soon we will see another bullrun.. keep accumulating while the market is silent.

ps. rumors of facebook buys coinbase.

If this rumor is true we are going to
A qualitative and significant shift in the history of crptocurrencies
We'll talk about btc price in the cloud
And therefore the whole market and this is what we wish

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Its price manipulation by whales.,

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We don't know for sure but we all know that only whales can manipulate the market so maybe they really intended to make the price low so that they can buy again in full force. They really have the power to control the bitcoin price because of its limited supply.

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Quote from: Itcher on June 27, 2018, 09:40:16 AM

so much talk about these whales. I think these are the same people who want to benefit, the fact that you lose money because of this - it is a side effect, not their goal. no one wants their huge volumes to lead to a large growth, and at the same time they would not be able to take advantage of it

I disagree with you here
Let's see things from another angle
The whales depend on the enormity of their money
Which means it will be a big buying wave
As the whale does in the ocean altogether
And with prices reaching a level they expect
They sell and become rich and we
We just watch

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Quote from: SUDARMONO on June 25, 2018, 07:46:27 PM

Yes I really agree about that, and I think there is a power to lower the price and give the pope a chance to buy at a cheap price, and we should also come to buy at a cheap price.

sourly I will

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whales are already in.
as a matter of fact whales are the only type of investors that will never leave bitcoin market ever. they are earning a lot of money by just staying in. and also they have been accumulating bitcoin for a very long time. in the long run they will be the ones whom you envy because they will be owning a large number of bitcoin while you can only afford to buy 0.0001BTC because of its huge price in the future.

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Prices have gone down a little bit and this made people buy coins for future investments because they are coming off as cheap. This is the time where such strategic plans come to action. Buying them cheap and selling them off when the prices go up. Hopefully more whales will be attracted.

availcrypto

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Yes, I totally agree with this fact. I think that behind this price fall there are many big whale and they are just trying to control then market and trying to buy the coins at a low price for selling them in high rate in the future.

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Quote from: mohammedmattar on June 25, 2018, 07:24:49 PM

Some say some forces are working to lower prices
So that some whales can enter the market at excellent prices
Do you agree with that?

Yes, I heard that rumour before. Whether it's true or not we have to prepare for their entry by just hodling what we have and learn how to play their game.

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The only thing we can do in this market is to try not to be hit by the whale movement, it exists and has its consequences. Setting goals and keeping up with the market is the best way to protect yourself, because anyone who has strength may well push the price both up and down.

jonalva

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The cryptocurrency market always follows fluctuations. The market is never stable and multiple reasons work behind this. Maybe there is some market manipulation for the entry of the whales.

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I absolutely agree, but also if they try to push it down, it is not so easy and seems that 5500-6000$ is a good support, and we will never go below probably..
Did you notice all the good news out there? And the market didn't move, zero! I think that soon we will see another bullrun.. keep accumulating while the market is silent.

ps. rumors of facebook buys coinbase.

gantez

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I'm it from a different perspective and that is, this year has not been a good year for bitcoin so far. The FUD around bitcoin and crypto is enormous and it is really fighting price.

Phil2018

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There is definitely a power to make the price of bitcoin fall. It would become helpful to many interested people who are eager to invest on bitcoin.

CoinsGazer

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Yes, folks in wall street play both pre-entry and entry. Normal investors have no idea what time they will enter the marketplace unless they're accessible to very first sourcing.

Arnold110

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It would be but not sure. If you look at the history of last few weeks, it doesn't seem normal. Thus there is a possibility of attack. But within the current situation it is possible to make profiit with proper analysis.

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I agree with this agreement. I think in recent times price will decrease and many investors are waiting for this. Because they can purchase low price coin.

Itcher

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so much talk about these whales. I think these are the same people who want to benefit, the fact that you lose money because of this - it is a side effect, not their goal. no one wants their huge volumes to lead to a large growth, and at the same time they would not be able to take advantage of it

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Yes it is.. As we've seen a little whale activity last night with the tether issue.. I think if btc can hold 6k resistance it'll attract more whales of course. And if it can cross the 6300 resistance I think btc will have the largest whale activity. Just wait and watch guys

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Yes I really agree about that, and I think there is a power to lower the price and give the pope a chance to buy at a cheap price, and we should also come to buy at a cheap price.

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Some say some forces are working to lower prices
So that some whales can enter the market at excellent prices
Do you agree with that?

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