To be honest this is negligence on the part of the security person who should know when & how to use the fire arm and when to use lethal force...even if this guy was trigger happy, the least he should have done was to fire warning ⚠️ shots and not firing at the crowd who didn't pose any danger to the restaurant..
Anyway it's a lesson to everyone, but unfortunately this has happened before like OP said and these kind of matches at starting to be dangerous, people need to watch these games from home to preserve lives!!!
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The security agencies have to investigate thoroughly on the cause to the crisis, those involved as well as the weight of the damage caused and the number of human lives involved, i think giving a jail terms is the simplest they can even offer because the lives lost are gone already and couldn't be recovered, while after serving some years on jail terms they can be free, they should only make sure to apprehend the exact perpetrators on this.
Jail time should really be that longer or lets say lifetime imprisonment on which anything that do connects or pertains about killing someone or murder then it should be automatically having this kind of duration in terms of imprisonment. We do know that when it comes into this aspect then it will really be that totally not just that too heavy for the duration on where they have just that be free after the years of being in prison but we do know that life isnt something that could really be exchange. Im not really that being too harsh since anyone deserves second chance but killing up someone due to some reason is really that unforgivable.Just like on what others been saying that the main reason on why people are really that skeptical on playing into outside or making up some bets or seeing live events just because of this particular possibilities that could really happen.
I have also avoided going to places where there are armed people, especially not going to physical casinos in my country because I have seen that at the entrance to the physical casino there are armed people and there have been fights between people. I believe it is because the people who lost money in the casino are angry when they leave the casino and take out their hatred on other people. This happens in private places in my country where there are big TVs for people to watch football games while drinking alcohol. The saddest thing is that when the game ends, people are very drunk and start fighting and not even the security guards can stop the fights, as a result we see blood in the streets and injured people being taken to the hospital.
Well, I must say that is quite unfortunate to read.
Here in my country we also have physical places for people to bet on games and also enjoy the matches while they are served alcohol, but I have never seen such an scene of people fighting and taking their fight onto the streets and spilling blood on the pavement due to them getting angry at losing money, and sincerely, it is something I desire never to witness personally...
It would be better if instead of people with guns stationed in the entrance of those betting shops, there were trained people to use non-lethal force and put down drunk people without compromising their physical well being.
I assume culture in your country towards law enforcement is different from here, because most of people are actually scare of cops and military people here, due to how easy is for one to end up in prison with no previous and fair trial or valid reason...
The security agencies have to investigate thoroughly on the cause to the crisis, those involved as well as the weight of the damage caused and the number of human lives involved, i think giving a jail terms is the simplest they can even offer because the lives lost are gone already and couldn't be recovered, while after serving some years on jail terms they can be free, they should only make sure to apprehend the exact perpetrators on this.
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Its normal for fans to celebrate after the wins of their favorite team; the manager is out of his mind in order to open fire at the crowd. If you fire directly at the crowd without an existing threat, then its murder; it can even be called a massacre, so both the manager and the guard are guilty of murder as a result of indiscriminate firing.
No fans should die from celebrating; they are celebrating out of support; they don't deserve to get killed by the act of these two idiots.
First of all a common security guard isn't supposed to use a gun, he's supposed to have a teaser only. Most people say that there's a spirit behind the trigger, at that moment you might be consumed with the power it gives you over someone else. But This is absolute garbage, no matter what must have happened taking his life wasn't the best way to go about it. He should be dealt with, murder is a sin against God and man. Jail should be a fair price for him but it should be life in prison so he doesn't get that chance to do that to someone else. Some people abuse a little power they have and try to oppress others with it
This is not the right way of handling such a situation. When someone is watching soccer along with a big crowd, there'll be noise. Another thing people can watch from home with utmost comfort, but they reach here to cheer and enjoy the moments. People will be drunk, and that makes them cheer and make more noise than a common soccer fan. Gambling and broadcast locations are getting to be murder locations. People need to realise that there need to be proper arrangements to keep things under control. In such situations these kinds of incidents could be avoided.
Another sad story that has to do with the Arsenal fans. It's annoying how people never learn their lesson after several similar stories have been shared on the internet. Maybe the current victims don't get to read the newspaper or listen to the radio.
Your question "is jail a fair price?". My anser to that is no unless its life in jail. He should be executed or never to be granted bail for life. This is what will be seen as a fair judgement.
Your question "is jail a fair price?". My anser to that is no unless its life in jail. He should be executed or never to be granted bail for life. This is what will be seen as a fair judgement.
First of all a common security guard isn't supposed to use a gun, he's supposed to have a teaser only. Most people say that there's a spirit behind the trigger, at that moment you might be consumed with the power it gives you over someone else. But This is absolute garbage, no matter what must have happened taking his life wasn't the best way to go about it. He should be dealt with, murder is a sin against God and man. Jail should be a fair price for him but it should be life in prison so he doesn't get that chance to do that to someone else. Some people abuse a little power they have and try to oppress others with it
This is not the right way of handling such a situation. When someone is watching soccer along with a big crowd, there'll be noise. Another thing people can watch from home with utmost comfort, but they reach here to cheer and enjoy the moments. People will be drunk, and that makes them cheer and make more noise than a common soccer fan. Gambling and broadcast locations are getting to be murder locations. People need to realise that there need to be proper arrangements to keep things under control. In such situations these kinds of incidents could be avoided. 
First of all a common security guard isn't supposed to use a gun, he's supposed to have a teaser only. Most people say that there's a spirit behind the trigger, at that moment you might be consumed with the power it gives you over someone else. But This is absolute garbage, no matter what must have happened taking his life wasn't the best way to go about it. He should be dealt with, murder is a sin against God and man. Jail should be a fair price for him but it should be life in prison so he doesn't get that chance to do that to someone else. Some people abuse a little power they have and try to oppress others with it
The direct answer is no, but we also need to see from a fan’s perspective. Generally a fan becomes a diehard fan when he doesn’t have any person to love. He finds joy in the team and specifically for a player. He relates to the players of the club and hence supports them. But yes, we need to also know our limits. We know that, when you win something big, you celebrate a lot, and clearly the club’s win was something like a personal win for the fan. But the dying incident was something that was very unexpected.
It is so painful I must say and believe me that is one of the reasons am not too comfortable going to a viewing center to watch football match, at most times even when I manage to go I don't stay much longer enough till the end of the match. But however, it is an unforseen circumstance that took someone life even at the peak of celebration, it would have been more better if it was an injury he sustain but death is so painful, well situation like this is not longer new we have heard it several times, we have to be watchful if anytime we find ourselves such in crowd, I believe there must have been sign of possibility of such thing happening before it happened. 
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Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
The guard is the one that shot and not the manager so the guard is to be blamed, because his Boss didn't tell him to shoot but to only to calm down the noise. It's the duty of the security to calm a noisy place if directed by his Boss but not to do it in a harmful way. The manager didn't do anything wrong, he might not know that it was the excitement from the match that led to such noise. Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Killing is not reasonable in our time. If the guard kill a person, regardless of what that murdered man did, its still killing and punishable by law. If they have to prove it fair the they will have to battle in court which they will prove the man shoot his gun. The fact is fact. The murderer will find it fair when he is in jail, its not a good place.
A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
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The manager did not order the shooting so he would have had just a little sentence if any but his actions has made him an accomplice in the case. He wouldn't have ran away instead, he would have call the police reporting the incident or even turn himself in and make a statement that he ran away for safety to avoid being killed by the noisy fans who might have been infuriated by the shooting from the security guard. According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
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Its such a shame that a beautiful game like football is now being turned to something of enmity whereas it was designed for entertainment, unity people and building bridges.
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What it seems weird to me it is how the whole situation devolved so quickly, as if the guards did not have the suitable training to calm down crowds before using lethal force against anyone. They were supposed only to take out their Guns to spread the people causing trouble and never directly to shoot at them.
That is one of the reasons I dont like to attend events in which it is very likely to find people bearing arms, I don't know how people in countries like the United States deal with the combination of sports and guns, And I am not even adding alcohol and drugs to the whole equation...
It would have been more proper to give taser guns to those security guards, instead of actual fire weapons, it would have prevented this tragedy from happening.
I have also avoided going to places where there are armed people, especially not going to physical casinos in my country because I have seen that at the entrance to the physical casino there are armed people and there have been fights between people. I believe it is because the people who lost money in the casino are angry when they leave the casino and take out their hatred on other people. This happens in private places in my country where there are big TVs for people to watch football games while drinking alcohol. The saddest thing is that when the game ends, people are very drunk and start fighting and not even the security guards can stop the fights, as a result we see blood in the streets and injured people being taken to the hospital.
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Its a case of homicide; there's always a culprit when a gun is fired and someone drops dead coming from that shot. There's such a thing as a rule when you're firing a gun; you cannot have a license and just fire a gun; you owe all the consequences whatever happens afterwards. There's a right way of firing a gun to stop the crowd; licensed gun owners know that, not fire directly, and the manager can be an accessory because the order came from him.
If there is another option to do such warning, then go on that route. A more safer way is always the better way to approach a situation. As much as possible, no person should be put in a tight position where their life is under a threat.
And if you are in the crowd, then, find a way how to get away from that situation. Don't wait for something to happen before you find an exit. But stay calm and assess the situation. Don't ever think to disarm the person unless absolutely necessary. And ask for help once you got a safe exit. It may help other people who are still in the jurisdiction of trouble.
There's a right way of firing a gun to stop the crowd; licensed gun owners know that, not fire directly.
There's definitely a proper way of handling firearms depending on what your motives are, but this ain't no shocker that a bullet hits someone within range, on the ground when a gun is rapidly fired in the air... This is a no brainer!In all, it's a homicide and that's what matters to the authorities... But that could be any of us someday if we don't avoid it -- how do you avoid that? By staying in your fucking Lodge and apartments unless it's really necessary to step out. You could watch football matches in viewing centers and that's just fine, but learn to be on guard -- exit any place IMMEDIATELY WHEN YOU BEGIN TO SMELL TROUBLE!!
Dude's gone and justice is YEARNING to take it's due course, guess what? That's not gonna bring him back. Yes, "prevention is better than cure"
That being said, I don't think it's gonna have alot to do with the manager himself though...
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Its a case of homicide; there's always a culprit when a gun is fired and someone drops dead coming from that shot. There's such a thing as a rule when you're firing a gun; you cannot have a license and just fire a gun; you owe all the consequences whatever happens afterwards. There's a right way of firing a gun to stop the crowd; licensed gun owners know that, not fire directly, and the manager can be an accessory because the order came from him.
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
The manager only asked the security guard to break up the commotion, not to make it more chaotic. and the security guard clearly made a mistake in trying to calm them down, and I don't know if the shots were intentionally aimed at the fans or just warning shots. But it was a reckless act, where he pulled the trigger in the dark, so that in the end the bullet hit someone. And now the two officers have to bear the consequences of their recklessness.
On the other hand, this is also a warning for us football fans, not to be too excessive in celebrating a victory, let alone making a commotion. when we are happy, then show that happiness by doing more positive things, don't let the happiness we celebrate actually ruin the happiness of others.
You know, when I saw this topic I thought he actually killed himself or got into a fight because of his support for his club, but In this case he was killed because he was celebrating. It's hurtful that in the world of pain, someone else created a joyful avenue for himself and his life is cut short because he was happy and celebrating.
Yeah, I don’t think the question of whether it’s worth it to die for a football club is appropriate. The fan did not put himself in a situation that requires him to give up his life for his team. That is not what happened. He was killed for celebrating, he wasn’t killed defending his favorite team or something. It wasn’t like that so it is incredibly unfair and unjust to let the fan’s life end like that. It has nothing to do with the club, the fan was just at an unfortunate place and time surrounded by the wrong people.
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
The security have a responsibility to ensure that there is no disturbance or murder and they are tasked with their job. If you ask who is to blame then why is that because the incident has already taken place. Crimes must still be punished based on their guilt and it cannot be justified whether it occurs in a gambling area or not. I have even seen crimes on football grounds in our country and it was triggered by supporters of both sides so the security forces were also involved in the situation and now the process has entered the realm of law. The mistake of murder cannot be justified and they must still be punished even if it occurs on a football field and I never condone crimes.
This ought to has reminded me back then when we don't have a TV at home and my dad would always stayed updated on the football news on the radio, so when the commentators says dissatisfying things against his club, he begins to momour and abusing the referee eat him up I'd get caught. Just so aggressive.
And at the end of the game his team looses the match, he angrily throws the radio aside and in subsequent repeated times, the radio got damage and he regretted his actions of being too aggressive over a common and a social activity games meant to be tolerated when your teams looses.
And at the end of the game his team looses the match, he angrily throws the radio aside and in subsequent repeated times, the radio got damage and he regretted his actions of being too aggressive over a common and a social activity games meant to be tolerated when your teams looses.
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Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
The security have a responsibility to ensure that there is no disturbance or murder and they are tasked with their job. If you ask who is to blame then why is that because the incident has already taken place. Crimes must still be punished based on their guilt and it cannot be justified whether it occurs in a gambling area or not. I have even seen crimes on football grounds in our country and it was triggered by supporters of both sides so the security forces were also involved in the situation and now the process has entered the realm of law. The mistake of murder cannot be justified and they must still be punished even if it occurs on a football field and I never condone crimes. 
Both the manager and the Guard is at faults because he was the one that authorized the security guard, however the whole thing is still not clear to me and the action of the manager was totally off because I wonder what he was expecting when he kept an entertainment TV were customers will be watching matches and having fun while they are eating because certainly people will always raise there voice when they see that there club is wining, however was there no other way to handle such situation other than shutting down the power supply?, I believe there are more mystery to it, perhaps when police caught him more reasons will come out, however what he should have done is to calmly approach the person and beg him to reduce his voice and before you no everything will be as normal as it is before it happen.
I agree with you, of course it is natural for us to raise our voices when we get our favorite team to win, after all everyone will do the same thing when their favorite team wins the match and as long as it is not excessive I think it is a natural thing to do. With the way he did it was to turn off the electricity I think it would not be enough to calm the situation, there is still a possibility of chaos happening.You are right in saying that approaching him and telling him to lower his voice is one way that can actually be done, maybe the manager is in a state of chaos so he cannot control himself and makes decisions spontaneously.
Have you ever seen a fan watching football at home, even drinking beer or not, and after someone has offended his favorite team in any way, he kills himself? I'm sure there hasn't been a single case. Here, the crowd effect, which provoked riots, and as a result, there was an accident in someone was killed. For me, these are two different things. To die for your favorite team, or to die as a result of a random bullet that could fly from where the riots are happening. But yes, I often see a drunken crowd of fans of one or another team who are ready to literally "tear apart" anyone against them. What can I say? People are drunk, caught up in the crowd effect, and everything that can happen to them in this state is only their choice. I don't feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for those who accidentally become witnesses of these crazy fights.
Much times, I have seen some folks around the stationary where news papers are sold, being there, you all see lot of people arguing like they are feeding their pockets at the course or protecting the interests of their clubs.Funny enough some of them ends up creating everlasting hatreds among each other while some are able to let go sentiments just after then.
These are practically attitudes of loosing ones self conduct and its outcome could lead to provocations to be regretted about.
If only those who had been victims in one way or the other could have a chance to rewind the hand of time, I think they will definitely correct their mistakes and notes that the game of football is not worth dieing for and not worth creating enemity amongst one another.
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes...
Anything that's laced heavily with money is taken as a serious business. If it's topped with gambling, it transcends "serious" to "do or die". That's what has happened to the round leather game or sports by extension.Quote
but some set of humans won't just look away if they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan.
Honestly, people of low tolerance level should just steer clear of any activity that has to do with declaring a winner. It's disheartening for me when I see such emotions stirred up to the point when it's not controlled and someone is assaulted. I see that a lot with kids and how some of them cry when they lose on things but to see that in adults is sickening. I don't care whatever label anyone gives it. If I see such tears when someone wins, I know it's tears of joy. But when they lose and cry, what should that be called them? It's sickening. Sorry, I digressed there.Quote
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
It doesn't make sense to die for a football club or any sports at that when one isn't directly on its payroll. I see a lot of people worry themselves sick when they most probably will not even get to see/meet with those stars they fight and die for or on whose behave they've quarrels.Quote
Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
The manager, of course. ...
What it seems weird to me it is how the whole situation devolved so quickly, as if the guards did not have the suitable training to calm down crowds before using lethal force against anyone. They were supposed only to take out their Guns to spread the people causing trouble and never directly to shoot at them.
That is one of the reasons I dont like to attend events in which it is very likely to find people bearing arms, I don't know how people in countries like the United States deal with the combination of sports and guns, And I am not even adding alcohol and drugs to the whole equation...
It would have been more proper to give taser guns to those security guards, instead of actual fire weapons, it would have prevented this tragedy from happening.
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Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
The story is unfortunate and one of the reasons why guns should not be given to anyhow people. If at all you want to fire shots to disperse the crowd, there are ways of doing that, you don't do it by pointing guns at people or fire hit anyhow. I've read and watched videos of such unfortunate incidents, they are unprofessional.Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
As for whom to blame, it's the guards, the manager has no blame at all, he didn't carry the guns and neither did he say they should shoot at people. He has the responsibility to put that place in order and perhaps the Arsenal fans may not be the only guest present, so disturbing others is also unjust.
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
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Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
The idea that a football club is worth dying for is highly subjective... for many fans, love and loyalty to their team runs deep and can provide a sense of community and belonging, but nothing justifies loss of life or acts of violence because football should be a source of joy and unity, not tragedy.
In relation to the manager’s actions, it is difficult to judge his decision without a full understanding of the situation. Turning off the power may have been an attempt to calm the crowd, but it may have been wiser for the manager to have first tried to talk to the people or even involve the appropriate authorities, such as the police, to deal with the crowd in a safe and professional manner.
As for the question of blame, both the manager and the security guard played a key role in this tragic outcome and in my opinion are certainly to blame. However, only the police investigation will determine legal responsibility and an honest assessment of the consequences.
Regardless, this incident serves as a reminder of the need for adequate safety measures and effective crowd management during sporting events to ensure the safety of both those cheering and those just wanting to relax.
It doesn't sound like a very clear situation and all sorts of things may have taken place that led up to the shooting. However I doubt any security guard would pull their gun unless they felt very threatened, let's just hope that the place has some effective CCTV footage which can back up the decision.
I kinda like felt the same energy from the first time I read the story. It may have had some fragments cut off for some reasons I don't know, but I'm sure the story is true. Cause why would a guard open fire without any just course? The only information there is that an uproar began from the crowd ....then boommm, the light went off!The guard is the one that shot and not the manager so the guard is to be blamed, because his Boss didn't tell him to shoot but to only to calm down the noise.
The manager isn't obviously a military personnel whatsoever thus, doesn't have an authority to order him to shoot... Guards like that don't take commands from civilians and this is unlikely to be the case. Nonetheless, THEY'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. If I had my way, I'd try to gather more informations as to why the guard had to open fire -- who knows if he was attacked? Or if the infuriated crowd started picking up things that don't belong to them? We don't know all of this and we can't conclude
Well, from what I can tell so far, we still don't really know everything about what went down with that shooting. The details are kinda fuzzy. Maybe the security guy felt like he was in danger or something? Or maybe he just wanted to scare people by shooting his gun in the air?
I'm definitely gonna try to follow up this story to know what literally happened. I've never seen a gun being given to a dumbass guard who doesn't know how to control it before - never! 
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The guard is the one that shot and not the manager so the guard is to be blamed, because his Boss didn't tell him to shoot but to only to calm down the noise. It's the duty of the security to calm a noisy place if directed by his Boss but not to do it in a harmful way. The manager didn't do anything wrong, he might not know that it was the excitement from the match that led to such noise. Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Well, from what I can tell so far, we still don't really know everything about what went down with that shooting. The details are kinda fuzzy. Maybe the security guy felt like he was in danger or something? Or maybe he just wanted to scare people by shooting his gun in the air? I don't know. Either way, someone ended up dead which is obviously awful but we really shouldn't jump to any big conclusions yet though. We gotta wait to hear the full story first once the full investigation is completed.
A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
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Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Both the manager and the Guard is at faults because he was the one that authorized the security guard, however the whole thing is still not clear to me and the action of the manager was totally off because I wonder what he was expecting when he kept an entertainment TV were customers will be watching matches and having fun while they are eating because certainly people will always raise there voice when they see that there club is wining, however was there no other way to handle such situation other than shutting down the power supply?, I believe there are more mystery to it, perhaps when police caught him more reasons will come out, however what he should have done is to calmly approach the person and beg him to reduce his voice and before you no everything will be as normal as it is before it happen. According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
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Is there anything else in your mind that made you ask if jail is a fair price?
Can't fight eye for an eye this time or else you could also go to jail. The fan also is at fault but killing is a criminal offense. Both of them are not thinking of consequences so it ends tragically.
The celebration was cut short because the manager decided to switch off the power, of course, the other party will be annoyed by what they did.
A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
I wonder what kind of training the security guard had because what kind of response is that!? who the hell open fires at people just because they made more noise at the restaurant after the manager switched off the power. the guy dies and the other dude got injured for no reason because a guard is incompetent at his job. also, why is the manager on the run? According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
I hope the security guard gets caught and arrested.
Overall, this is a very unpleasant situation. It was definitely not worth opening fire and this is an abuse of all authority and one's job descriptions, and one must bear the most serious responsibility for this before the law and one's loved ones. It would have been enough to call the police if the manager and security understood that the degree was rising. In my youth, I often saw this in bars, but it never came to shooting.
British people have a bad reputation when drunk.
Do you know any person, regardless of country, who is drunk and calm? There is no case where a drunk person does not cause or get involved in an incident of violence at some point. The drink is to blame, not the nationality.
IMO if we treat stupid with an appropriate response, maybe the stupid will start to disappear.
Totally agreed. However, ALL of the world's governments (besides the only 15 that don't have armed forces) have different opinions in terms of education vs weapons. They prefer to keep their people uneducated and spend a ton of money on weapons. And you know, you can't fight stupidity with guns...
What would an appropriate response be? Well you kill someone in a fit of rage, maybe they chain you to a public town square and clip off a toe a day until you bleed out. If you live past your 10 toes, start taking fingers, then legs, then balls, or whatever order you want to start.
Let people see what ignorance gets ya and put the fear into them that they don't want it happening to them. Maybe they'll get some help for their anger issues before it's too late.
Let people see what ignorance gets ya and put the fear into them that they don't want it happening to them. Maybe they'll get some help for their anger issues before it's too late.
That's, should we go to the era of Hammurabi or start impaling like Vlad Tepes? IMO if you want a better society, you don't need to use violence as an instrument for justice. Of course, this is another and much bigger conversation...
In the specific case you mention, death comes from poor human management and nothing else. The manager and the guard (why would he have a gun?) with their actions led a person to death and perhaps they could lead others down the same path. I'm quite sure that their punishment will not be what many would expect or want. However, I also believe that both of those responsible have already regretted their decisions. But now it's too late for all of them.
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Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Both are guilty but of different crimes, we have known for a long time that people act differently when they are in a crowd than want they are on their own, basically they are willing to take more risks as they feel protected when being on a large group of people, so it is not difficult to imagine the fans being very rowdy after a soccer match and drinking a lot of alcohol, but the way the manager deal with it was wrong, and then this precipitated an even larger mistake with the guard firing at the crowd. Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
If you know that your city or state is full of bad people who would kill for any reason it is better you watch your sport match at home with your family, this news is one of the thousands that's happening around the world, I can't even count how many stabbing and killing have happened here in my country because of sports fans hating on others and they started fighting.
This story looked like a planned one by the manager, I wonder why people do evil things and run for their lives, like what are they to expect? To be pardon? They knew the consequences yet they choose to go the evil path, I hope the law shows no mercy for these evil people.
I try to avoid crowdy places with fans you never know if a fight will break out, it could be bloody than imagine, stay in your home and enjoy your shows and games.
This story looked like a planned one by the manager, I wonder why people do evil things and run for their lives, like what are they to expect? To be pardon? They knew the consequences yet they choose to go the evil path, I hope the law shows no mercy for these evil people.
I try to avoid crowdy places with fans you never know if a fight will break out, it could be bloody than imagine, stay in your home and enjoy your shows and games.
The manager should have called the police to calm down the crowd, since they weren't respecting the house's rules. The guard could have played a defensive role, but without shooting anyone or anywhere... That was a dumb move from him, as he didn't measure the potential consequences and just desired to show off his strength to the crowd in a desperate attempt to make everyone obey him. It was a tragedy what happened, and it's due to situations like this people should be more careful and think twice before acting.
Emotional intelligence is a must from individuals working on security industry of the market. This guy clearly showed he doesn't have what it takes to be a guard. At same time, the crowd should have just accepted the command of the manager and stopped the noise. If it was an issue for the manager that they celebrated the victory of their team there, the celebration should have been moved to a more friendly and warm place.
It would have avoided the whole tragedy that way.
Emotional intelligence is a must from individuals working on security industry of the market. This guy clearly showed he doesn't have what it takes to be a guard. At same time, the crowd should have just accepted the command of the manager and stopped the noise. If it was an issue for the manager that they celebrated the victory of their team there, the celebration should have been moved to a more friendly and warm place.
It would have avoided the whole tragedy that way.
they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan. [/s]
WHAT are your opinion? Isit worth dying for a football club?
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
WHAT are your opinion? Is
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
I think dead, for one team is unreasonable, too futile, but an incident like this is actually beyond our control, and it is very unfortunate why the manager did this, because instead of solving the problem, it actually added to the problem, the chaos became even worse
especially there was a shooting and it took victims
in this case the party that must be responsible is the manager and security, why was there a shooting in a building that was crowded with visitors
hopefully this case will be investigated thoroughly so that similar incidents do not always occur just because of the problem of winning or losing one team, lives are sacrificed
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
No he those wouldn't matter who is to blame or not. What we know is that that business is going to be closed down and the person who pulled the trigger is going to face the law. I also don't want to think that this is the first time such tumultuous crows as a result of an ongoing match is happening.One person's decision has already caused a ripple effect that will be remembered for a long time to come. The manager, the guard and the people who gathered to watch the match. The last group will have a phobia for those type of gathering henceforth.
At first I thought that the supporter of opposition team would have killed the person but as I continued reading that story was completely different.
It's the first time I am seeing that a customer at a restaurant got killed just because he was celebrating his favourite team's victory.
Obviously the manager is responsible for all of this and that he couldn't handle the situation well.
If he would have handled the situation calmly then the person would have been alive today.
It's the first time I am seeing that a customer at a restaurant got killed just because he was celebrating his favourite team's victory.
Obviously the manager is responsible for all of this and that he couldn't handle the situation well.
If he would have handled the situation calmly then the person would have been alive today.
As far as I know, radical football fans are a special subculture. Fights with representatives of other football teams are normal for them.
Football fans travel in large groups to cities where football matches with their favorite teams are taking place and have bloody fights. I do not approve of such actions. On the other hand, these are usually young people, and young people are often quite aggressive.
I was told the following story: in one city, football fans were so annoying everyone with their fights in stadiums that their leaders were called to the police. The police promised not to touch them if they started holding their fights (brawls) not in the city, but in the neighboring forests. The fans and the police made a verbal agreement between themselves, and since then clashes between football fans have taken place without spectators. The average person does not know about them.
As for the shot football fan, of course, I feel sorry for him.
Football fans travel in large groups to cities where football matches with their favorite teams are taking place and have bloody fights. I do not approve of such actions. On the other hand, these are usually young people, and young people are often quite aggressive.
I was told the following story: in one city, football fans were so annoying everyone with their fights in stadiums that their leaders were called to the police. The police promised not to touch them if they started holding their fights (brawls) not in the city, but in the neighboring forests. The fans and the police made a verbal agreement between themselves, and since then clashes between football fans have taken place without spectators. The average person does not know about them.
As for the shot football fan, of course, I feel sorry for him.
Have you ever seen a fan watching football at home, even drinking beer or not, and after someone has offended his favorite team in any way, he kills himself? I'm sure there hasn't been a single case. Here, the crowd effect, which provoked riots, and as a result, there was an accident in someone was killed. For me, these are two different things.
That's true Lovesmay, the mistake was all my fault. If you take a look at the OP, I made some modifications that may project a better understanding of what the case was... Better still, click the "read me" on block letters and see for yourself.The manager to that bar is totally in trouble, because everything is already showing that he cold be the one who ordered for the shooting, looking at the way of the scene, he first instructs the guards, switched off the light and then the next we had was a gun shot.
That he COULD?? are you serious right now? The link clearly states the obvious... He knew exactly what he was up to, which is why he put out the light.. Again, he why is he on the run? "They both didn't plan that it'll turn out that way, but it did and they're shivering in their burrows, like the northern pocket Gopher, in fear of being hunted for murdering the lad in cold blood"This is why I choose to not be a die hard fan[...]
Good decision. We've got only one life to live, what's the essence of risking it? The authorities may avenge his death, but won't bring him back to life, sadly. 
A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
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I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes,but some set of humans won't just look away if they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan.
WHAT are your opinion? Isit worth dying for a football club?
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
CLICK ME!!!
I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes,
WHAT are your opinion? Is
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
It doesn't sound like a very clear situation and all sorts of things may have taken place that led up to the shooting. However I doubt any security guard would pull their gun unless they felt very threatened, let's just hope that the place has some effective CCTV footage which can back up the decision. The manager sounds like he was in a tough place and sometimes sports fans can get very rowdy, if combined with alcohol and if the match does not go their way, it can be a very messy combination. It would make sense to call the police in this situation and maybe they were on the way. It does not look good when the manager and guard go into hiding, but in some places a lynch mob can form and vigilante justice takes over - so it may seem natural to run.
This is why I choose to not be a die hard fan and I sometime can be a fan of my opposing team if there's something I want to get or achieve.
There are many people who can accept our choice, like president election, if you support the number #1 president, while your dad support number #2 president and your close friend support number #3 president. Your relationship with your dad and close friend might end since they choose different than you.
There are many people who can accept our choice, like president election, if you support the number #1 president, while your dad support number #2 president and your close friend support number #3 president. Your relationship with your dad and close friend might end since they choose different than you.
I also saw that same topic a month ago or maybe more and I did reply to it saying that it should not happen on a football field. But, in today's era, things are getting crazy and the fan base of football teams have been growing out of control. What can we do about it? There's actually none especially if you are in a third world country just trying to rely on the betting odds even if it causes heavy traffic in the process.
I really though that it's easy to take out that bad emotional sacrifice but as you grow old, it keep on getting back.
I really though that it's easy to take out that bad emotional sacrifice but as you grow old, it keep on getting back.
It good to do things (support club) with moderation being an Arsenal fan does mean constituting a nuisance in the street while celebrating a win against Man Utd, though the manager and the Guard nvolved in the fatal shooting should be arrested and should be prosecuted there are other ways of punishing soccer fans who are extremities instead of shooting why not report to the appropriate security agent, this is also a reminder to soccer fans who always cultivate the habit of wild celebration without moderation I am also an Arsenal and always celebrate y every win with calmness without causing any nuisance or disturbance in the street
No, your favorite sports team is not worth dying for. Life is beautiful and amazing, and there are many wonderful things in it besides your favorite and unloved teams and besides sports in general. Sports are cool, but they are a stupid reason to die. In fact, I have to say that being a sports fan is quite dangerous. But it is one thing to be a quiet football fan who enjoys watching a football match at home, and another to assert yourself in friends with other fans or to get into a conflict with a representative of the law. Although, in all likelihood, the deceased football fan was not to blame for the conflict.
The guy in question was doing a normal thing that people do everyday at the viewing center which is celebrate, argue and castigate losing team's fans. It's fine a while lot in my country and it's associated with variations of noise. It's a public setting and the manager shouldn't have opened such a viewing center if he doesn't need noise. In my country, the fans of the winning team even sing hurtful songs for the opposing team and brag about their team when it favors them, when they're on the receiving end, they get their own share of mockery. It's fun and engaging and friendly too for mature minds.
Life is worth more than just being violent and brutal because of the outcome of football matches. I hope the deceased family never let's the manager and security guard go free.
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Nobody will intentionally die because he wants to support his football club. I am sure that those fans and the restaurant owner would have avoided this problem if they had premeditated that it would lead to injury or death. But sometimes situations like this go out of hand and I guess nobody will plan to die or get injured just because he is celebrating his club's victory.
The manager and the guard handled the situation very poorly. If you know that these fans were causing a nuisance in his business premises, they should have called the police instead of taking the laws into their own hands.
To be honest, I'm not shocked when I read this kind of news. That's because here in my country I've seen many cases of physical aggression during football matches and they're always fights involving both fans of the teams and when the police intervene, someone dies or is seriously injured. Because of this, I don't go to watch football matches in stadiums in my country. Even in private places like places where they sell alcohol and have giant TVs so people can watch football matches comfortably here in my country, there have been cases of fights. When people are hurt because their teams lost, they tend to be violent towards other people who provoke them, and when people are happy because their teams won, they can get too happy and create trouble.
when I saw this topic I thought he actual killed himself or got into a fight because of his support for his club, but I'm this case he was killed because he was celebrating. It's hurtful that in the world of pain, someone else created a joyful avenue for himself and his life is cut short because he was happy and celebrating.
Yeah, even the subject-line is somehow misleading, we cannot reject the perspective that a fan died for a football club. Dying is completely from being killed. But in my opinion, even suicide or murder or anything related to lives must be total wrong and that to for the reason of a football team or any sport must be too wrong; no justification could be tolerated.Life is ultimately superior than anything. No exceptions.
Whether it is football or any other sport or suicide or murder nothing could be justified when we consider against a human life. All human are equal which means a football team cannot claim a life of its fan. So, this topic about worthiness not at all making any sense as per the value system I do follow.
It was avoidable incident by the both parties. Those fans would left the scene when they have discovered that the manager was not in support of their chanting and switch off the light to chase them but their were doing strong head or daring the manager that they can't do anything. And in return the manager would have instructed the guards not to shoot the crowd but probably to the air to scare them. Even though the crowd was guilty of the noise and now that someone is dead, the manager has to face the law.
And I don't really like when fans are doing those arguments after a football match. And the funny part of it all is that they don't even received money from the club they are supporting. And are vain chanting.
And I don't really like when fans are doing those arguments after a football match. And the funny part of it all is that they don't even received money from the club they are supporting. And are vain chanting.
Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
This is really a bad case scenario like what was the manager thinking, they were fans though they could have stayed a bit low, they just enjoyed the game and was celebrating their victory.. again, why is a security personnel having life ammunitions? What I know them with mostly is a teaser or an pepper spray. Having a live ammunition wasn't necessary. Also, the security men could have been selected properly. There are other ways to resolve simple issues not with guns.
I'm highly disappointed of the manager who caused the whole situation. He could have easily done it himself instead of creating a scene. Now I guess that restaurant will also suffer equal faith and is ruined.
British people have a bad reputation when drunk. There have been several cases of mob violence and fights where Britons are frequent visitors. But I don't just mean any Britons, I mean the party hooligan style Britons.
Amsterdam has taken very strict measures to stop attracting this kind of tourism. And in my country Greece municipalities have started blocking permits for night clubs outside of certain areas. They want towns and villages to be hooligan free! After very intensive complaints only certain areas will be allowed to hold clubs. Clubs are now treated like brothels! And among these clubs also are stores and cafeterias that will show premiere league matches. It's absolutely crazy that these people are put together because football used to be a class sport. They've burned that reputation down to rubble.
And the store owner in the above case handled it in the worst way possible. Don't be confrontational with these people. Help them to what they need and let them go. There's no other solution.
Amsterdam has taken very strict measures to stop attracting this kind of tourism. And in my country Greece municipalities have started blocking permits for night clubs outside of certain areas. They want towns and villages to be hooligan free! After very intensive complaints only certain areas will be allowed to hold clubs. Clubs are now treated like brothels! And among these clubs also are stores and cafeterias that will show premiere league matches. It's absolutely crazy that these people are put together because football used to be a class sport. They've burned that reputation down to rubble.
And the store owner in the above case handled it in the worst way possible. Don't be confrontational with these people. Help them to what they need and let them go. There's no other solution.
A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
CLICK ME!!!
I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes,but some set of humans won't just look away if they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan.
WHAT are your opinion? Isit worth dying for a football club?
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Obviously it was only the manager whose at fault at this, yet the bodyguard wont really be able to make that open fure it iwa wasnt because of that managers request or orders on which we know that once you are at duty then you will definitely be following on what your boss is telling you. Somehow, the guard wont really be having that exemption of any charges that would be filed against him yet the action made is really that become out of hand and really did harm out civilians. It is really that a very wrong decision made out by the manager. Did he lost something big and get irritated on what the crowd or people at the restaurant been celebrating into?According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
CLICK ME!!!
I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes,
WHAT are your opinion? Is
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
Its understandable that there would really be those conditions or times that you do get pissed but you should be having that good control of your emotions. Why? It will really be costing up your business and also your reputation at the time that you do get imprisoned because of such act. If he had just let those things passed and simply move on or just let those people do celebrate then there would really be no problem. We are just humans on which there's really that limit to our patience but when dealing up with business in correlation with handling out people or different ones then you do need to adjust.
As a fan of a club, it's fun to join the crowd to celebrate your team's win over the other club, but it should have a limit than creating a nuisance at the very end.
A hotel is a place of relaxation. Trying to create noisy scenarios in the hotel premises is what the hotel management and its security guards wouldn't take up with because there are people the noise from the crowd is disturbing in the hotel.
However, the hotel manager and security guard of the hotel take the laws into their hands. They wouldn't have dared to be shooting guns in the air to scare the crowd away because that could trigger them more to make the whole place unconducive for everyone.
This is a case of, no matter how you are being provoked, learning to control your temperament to avoid acting to what you would later regret. Because whenever an ugly act has been taken, it can't be undone back
A hotel is a place of relaxation. Trying to create noisy scenarios in the hotel premises is what the hotel management and its security guards wouldn't take up with because there are people the noise from the crowd is disturbing in the hotel.
However, the hotel manager and security guard of the hotel take the laws into their hands. They wouldn't have dared to be shooting guns in the air to scare the crowd away because that could trigger them more to make the whole place unconducive for everyone.
This is a case of, no matter how you are being provoked, learning to control your temperament to avoid acting to what you would later regret. Because whenever an ugly act has been taken, it can't be undone back
A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
CLICK ME!!!
I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes,but some set of humans won't just look away if they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan.
WHAT are your opinion? Isit worth dying for a football club?
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
CLICK ME!!!
I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes,
WHAT are your opinion? Is
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
The manager to that bar is totally in trouble, because everything is already showing that he cold be the one who ordered for the shooting, looking at the way of the scene, he first instructs the guards, switched off the light and then the next we had was a gun shot.
Also, if we may look at the situation closely, it may be that the target was the man shot alone and not because of the crowd chanting, there might have been a misunderstanding before that time, also, it may be that another person took advantage of the location and exact time to play his revenge on the targeted victim, some people could go extra miles to the point of death in making sure they retaliate on anything.
To be it is ridiculous to die or to inflict damage to other people because there was some offense done against a team, in the end of the day the team and the manager of the team won't even know who you are or how much of a fanatic you are, they only want to continue to be relevant and seek for recognition and cups, fans are supposed the be in the background to fill stadiums and gather money for the managers, and that is all.
One needs to know and be aware which is the role one as fan holds when comes to popular sports like football.
Fans needs to be very careful the way they celebrate clubs victory because other people who are not fan of the club can have a different meaning of it because of the emotions they have when their own club is not lucky to win. It is so unfortunate that people are unable to control their emotions when it comes sport games. Football is a game of luck, any team can be in the lucky side and a team that is winning to day can be defeated tomorrow because their is no permanent result in Football but people still allow emotions to control them to do things that are funny which ought not to be so.
Football is peaceful and a game of fun but people don't understand this, that is why sport men should be careful how they celebrate their club in public because it can be of problems to someone who is not happy about his/her club losing.
Football is peaceful and a game of fun but people don't understand this, that is why sport men should be careful how they celebrate their club in public because it can be of problems to someone who is not happy about his/her club losing.
What would an appropriate response be? Well you kill someone in a fit of rage, maybe they chain you to a public town square and clip off a toe a day until you bleed out. If you live past your 10 toes, start taking fingers, then legs, then balls, or whatever order you want to start.
That sounds like such a horrible way to unalive a person, a MURDERER... I'd vouch for it as long it curtails the insurgencies, but I wouldn't do it myself, neither will I stand a sight of it being done. I mean, it's dreadful enough to discourage such practices, especially in the interior part of the villages where civilization is yet to hit.Fuck the juries that may eventually sentence a man( for a case like this) to max 10 years in prison with a possibility of parole... Fuck the day I'd see them strolling the surface of the earth, after they gruesomely sent a person like them beneath -- "dust we are and dust we shall return to"
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So to answer your question, no it's not worth dying for a silly team but from the way you explained it, it wasn't the players fault.
..and yes, I also wanted to create an awareness (since we had a similar case, with almost the same club involved, in the same location not quite long) about the past event, meanwhile, engaging the main interest of the thread, all in one sitting... If that was ugly, my bad! But, I honestly thought I'd be for the better!!!Edit: hey yahoo, take a quick survey on the OP and see the changes that has been made... preciate!
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
I don't believe that is the right question for this situation. When you ask whether it is worth dying for a football club, you basically ask whether a fan should do something that could get the fan killed for the club, but in this case, fans didn't do anything so wrong to get killed. I understand that it sometimes can be annoying if you are trying to sleep and there are people making a lot of noise, but that doesn't give you the right to kill them. The fans were enjoying themselves because they were happy for their favorite team and they have the right to do that. If the manager didn't like it, he could tell the guards to ask them to leave the vicinity.
As a fan, if I absolutely love the team I support, I will also be so happy that I would cheer for them and enjoy if I'm with other people with similar feelings and I don't see anything wrong with that. So, I believe the people who are involved in shooting those fans should get caught and punished for what they did and the fans were not doing anything wrong.
Although, in all likelihood, the deceased football fan was not to blame for the conflict.
Not in anyway... Why should he be blamed for getting hit by a stray bullet? The manager and the guard needs to be in jail for passing out/carrying out such an abysmal act. Again, I'm wondering -- what sort of security guard opens fire unwarrantably in the air? He's wasn't in the most felicitous mood to be allowed a gun, cause WTF was he shooting for??When I read the Topic titled I thought it was the same as the one I joined the discussion here some time ago but it is different. This is the second occurrence in less than three months.
This is a different scenario that sounds possibly more lame than the regular ones we see out here... I had to compare before bringing it to y'all.I don't believe that is the right question for this situation. When you ask whether it is worth dying for a football club, you basically ask whether a fan should do something that could get the fan killed for the club, but in this case, fans didn't do anything so wrong to get killed.
You're not FAR from the truth... Maybe you'll have to read my latest replies below your own comment to see the reasons why... I guess the illustration was a bit intriguing, but for as many that read and understood why, preciate y'all!!Edit; hey y'all, take a look at the OP again...
Your title is misleading; the way you've stated it is implying that someone has killed themselves over their football club. Unfortunately, it's quite common to see football fans behaving poorly and being overly fixated on their team. This often ends badly; see what happened in Greece with Croatian hooligans of Dinamo Zagreb during a football match against AEK. Although this isn't a similar incident, it demonstrates how enamored some football fans can be, to the point where they're going beyond what is reasonable and logical.
This case, however, is somewhat different, although Arsenal fans were not complying with the security guard's request, shooting him was completely unnecessary.
This case, however, is somewhat different, although Arsenal fans were not complying with the security guard's request, shooting him was completely unnecessary.
A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
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I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes, but some set of humans won't just look away if they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan.
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
CLICK ME!!!
I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes, but some set of humans won't just look away if they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan.
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
Its crazy that there's people like that which is they are out of business of those teams played do that crime for just getting annoyed other sides fans. But guess that incident is really happening I guess this indicates that we should be more careful on our movements and emotions displayed when watching live games since scenarios like that indicates that we don't know what other people think and what they can able to do with to us so always play safe then celebrate your favorite team wins silently to avoid getting any issue.
Its not worth dying for just team that we like since dying on that scene is totally nonsense thing since people will just forget about what happen, so we need to be cautious and think about our safety when going outside watching those games.
I don't think anyone will agree that it's worth dying for, not because there aren't lovers of their team or aren't fan enough but even the team wouldn't live it that you die for them, it's expected you were supposed to just be a fan and enjoy the games without having to really go through all of such to show loyalty, in this case in as much as I'm not supporting the culprit but the guy in question should have obeyed the oder of no noise according to your story a d leave so he doesn't get to risk his Life knowing how chaotic that place could be, it's becoming a great concern their police department begins to pay attention to it as it's been on the rise as two cases have been reported from same place.
The incident in the bar is more like an exception, because fans always react very emotionally when their team wins, and in case of a loss they can even be aggressive. I think a more common occurrence would be fan fights, or now in rare cases fan robberies, in these cases there is a much higher probability that you will get hurt, but it seems to me that this does not stop them, they like it, for them it is part of their life. Of course, no one wants to die, and it is definitely not worth doing for your team, but sometimes accidents happen that no one can be insured against.
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
The sports football wasn't invented for us fans to die for, therefore, it's not worth dieing for any football club never minding the circumstance. However, this case on ground is different from a fan dieing for his football club but it's rather a murder case for a fan that was only celebrating the victory of his club. The restaurant manager handled the situation in a dumb manner by having to ask the guard to cut off the power in the first place which later led to the sporadic shooting. I think the restaurant should be shutdown, and the culprits be made to face justice. It's scary to even think that I can lose my life by going out in public place to watch my favourite club play.
I'll bet that the unfortunate event in which that Arsenal supporter was shot was in
an attempt to try and quell the possibility of violence, it was done out of fear and panic,
it shouldnt have happened.
They were celebrating that Arsenal won. The news did not mentioned anything like they were celebrating and destroying anything at the restaurant or stealing anything. I think the manager supposed to have used better way to make everything peaceful. If it is in some countries like my country, it is likely that the restaurant might be burnt down. an attempt to try and quell the possibility of violence, it was done out of fear and panic,
it shouldnt have happened.
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To die, or in this case to kill for your football club is very imbecilic. In this case it seems to me that the burden of guilt lies with the killer, who seems to me to have overreacted, and the fact that he is on the run indicates this. But there are many cases of people who get into fights and end up dying for the football club which indicates a low IQ.
Of course not.
Just for the sake of a favorite team, sometimes fans do crazy things beyond the limit. But this incident is really sad when an incident occurs because the security forces do things that should not be done. I just think why it could happen if they only want to condition the stadium atmosphere to remain safe but instead use very arrogant shots.
This is why sometimes a football fan does not want to watch the match directly because sometimes an unwanted incident occurs and in my opinion after an incident like this, it must really be considered to provide the best way not to use something silly but end up killing other people.
Just for the sake of a favorite team, sometimes fans do crazy things beyond the limit. But this incident is really sad when an incident occurs because the security forces do things that should not be done. I just think why it could happen if they only want to condition the stadium atmosphere to remain safe but instead use very arrogant shots.
This is why sometimes a football fan does not want to watch the match directly because sometimes an unwanted incident occurs and in my opinion after an incident like this, it must really be considered to provide the best way not to use something silly but end up killing other people.
No, your favorite sports team is not worth dying for. Life is beautiful and amazing, and there are many wonderful things in it besides your favorite and unloved teams and besides sports in general. Sports are cool, but they are a stupid reason to die. In fact, I have to say that being a sports fan is quite dangerous. But it is one thing to be a quiet football fan who enjoys watching a football match at home, and another to assert yourself in friends with other fans or to get into a conflict with a representative of the law. Although, in all likelihood, the deceased football fan was not to blame for the conflict.
Actually being a Soccer fan can be dangerous in certain circumstances and
as Julien_Olynpic says no its not worth dying for.
The supporters of Soccer talking generally provoke each other to the
point of violence and aggression. It's an historical slurr on the sport IMO.
I'll bet that the unfortunate event in which that Arsenal supporter was shot was in
an attempt to try and quell the possibility of violence, it was done out of fear and panic,
it shouldnt have happened.
Have you ever seen a fan watching football at home, even drinking beer or not, and after someone has offended his favorite team in any way, he kills himself? I'm sure there hasn't been a single case. Here, the crowd effect, which provoked riots, and as a result, there was an accident in someone was killed. For me, these are two different things. To die for your favorite team, or to die as a result of a random bullet that could fly from where the riots are happening. But yes, I often see a drunken crowd of fans of one or another team who are ready to literally "tear apart" anyone against them. What can I say? People are drunk, caught up in the crowd effect, and everything that can happen to them in this state is only their choice. I don't feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for those who accidentally become witnesses of these crazy fights.
Why are you guys surprised? There are many sick people in the world today, some have no endurance over everything, they break easily.
In my country a son shot his father because he told him not to go out and watch some football match, there are cases of fights breaking out in sports centre because one team won and the other lost.
When you see people taking things too seriously you need to believe them, don't make them go mad when you already know what they don't like, this is one reason why I like watching football games at home instead of using football game center.
In my country a son shot his father because he told him not to go out and watch some football match, there are cases of fights breaking out in sports centre because one team won and the other lost.
When you see people taking things too seriously you need to believe them, don't make them go mad when you already know what they don't like, this is one reason why I like watching football games at home instead of using football game center.
Of course it is not worth to dying for Football club and i think football should be considers as entertainment sport and people life is more important than it but i don't think it would be so simple because for some of fanatic fans they will always be considers their favourite clubs is more worth than their religion even for their life and i think people at here have already know that there were some incidents involved to football fans which leads to the death and usually these fanatic fans is came from the countries which has a strong football culture and they will always be attempts to defend their favourite clubs reputation which usually those fans will turn to aggressive and attack to the people if their favourite clubs insults especially if it coming from their rival fans
This just further proves that society is on a rapid decline and before we know it there will just be chaos in the world. Everyone seems to just get extremely pissed off these days and it takes nothing for them to pull out a weapon and get stupid. IMO if we treat stupid with an appropriate response, maybe the stupid will start to disappear.
What would an appropriate response be? Well you kill someone in a fit of rage, maybe they chain you to a public town square and clip off a toe a day until you bleed out. If you live past your 10 toes, start taking fingers, then legs, then balls, or whatever order you want to start.
Let people see what ignorance gets ya and put the fear into them that they don't want it happening to them. Maybe they'll get some help for their anger issues before it's too late.
So to answer your question, no it's not worth dying for a silly team but from the way you explained it, it wasn't the players fault.
What would an appropriate response be? Well you kill someone in a fit of rage, maybe they chain you to a public town square and clip off a toe a day until you bleed out. If you live past your 10 toes, start taking fingers, then legs, then balls, or whatever order you want to start.
Let people see what ignorance gets ya and put the fear into them that they don't want it happening to them. Maybe they'll get some help for their anger issues before it's too late.
So to answer your question, no it's not worth dying for a silly team but from the way you explained it, it wasn't the players fault.
A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
First of all this is very devastating news and no one deserves to pass away in such a way. Anyway, I do think that both the fans and the security guard is at fault here. I understand that it is a joyous occasion for fans but they need to respect the rules of an establishment and what its owner wants. They could have just left and went to a different place if they wanted to be loud. On the other hand, it could have been handled a lot better by both the manager and the security guard. No violence should have been used to silence the rowdy crowd.According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
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WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
How is this a question? The answer will always be no. In under no circumstances it will be worth it to die over your favorite football club. I do not think that fan expected to die anyway when he went to that place and decided to celebrate his team's win. 
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
That is really bad. As for me I have not gotten into any argument before with anyone about any club. Maybe because I prefer to gamble more than watching the football matches or because I see it not worth it as those people they are arguing about do not benefit my life. Many people do not think before they act. You like a club but what is the club offering you that will make you kill and injur people. I hope they will be arrested and be given the right judgement if truly that is what happened. 
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Oh this one case, definitely nope. Though I don't think the death was due to the football club technically, the idea was that there wasn't really any supposed event that would cause death, regardless of how intense the arguments that were happening between the two teams (In the latter sample of yours OP). Personally I'd shut the fuck up if someone from the opposite team had a gun and was trying to argue with me lol. But in most cases, we don't know the "had a gun" part, hence why those people aren't technicaly "dying" for the club.As for the first one, idk, doesn't sound like the players were at fault at all. Pretty sure the manager just doing a power trip move and the stupid security did a, well, stupid move.
In my opinion, football is only an external reason. In fact, the source of such aggression and conflict is in people. They like to provoke conflicts. Well, coincidentally, they turned out to be football fans. And on the other side of the conflict, no less aggressive employees of the institution were caught. So there are dozens of similar cases every day, and maybe hundreds. In this particular case, adults have made their own choice.
To answer your question directly, it's not worth dying for football or any other sports because they're for entertainment, the players gets over their loses so the fans should also get over loses. Although the case in discussion is quite different, a football fan didn't commit suicide because his team lost but died as a result of another person being responsible for his death. Excitements and feeling sad are parts of the experiences of football, the winning side will celebrate, both the team and their fans, the opposite will be the mood of the loser team. It's not good for people to celebrate wins and disturb other people's peace, although sometimes it's hard to contain excitement, so it's best for those that feels disturbed to either endure it or report to the appropriate authorities, instead of taking the laws into their own hands.
A lot of crazy people are just roaming around looking for an excuse to bite. What exactly leads to why they can just open fire on their fellow human beings who don't pose a threat to them? Noise is inevitable in a playground or viewing centre; if the manager is not ready for such, why then does he work in such a place?
I will still still return an indirect question to you that... "Of what benefit will I die for the sake of being a sport club fan"?
Nothing is worth dying for unless in protecting my family; if not thinking about it in a monetary sense, self is insane. No amount is to be offered that's worth dying for a football club that will continue to exist and continue their regular business without even noticing you.
Funny enough, unless some of the team members have to read this on the internet, the clubs are never aware of such inhuman behaviour fans carried out.
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
If I am asked this question in person, I Will respond to you... "For how much"? Because if I die the club activities will keep existing while I have exited.I will still still return an indirect question to you that... "Of what benefit will I die for the sake of being a sport club fan"?
Funny enough, unless some of the team members have to read this on the internet, the clubs are never aware of such inhuman behaviour fans carried out.
Sports are entertainment but to celebrate here you have to give your life is a grave injustice. You see Manchester City celebrated the victory against the team and Arsenal fans can have and celebrate in case of victory, but the person who shot John Ssenyonga is definitely a scoundrel, and was a big killer in his time.
That is why he got the courage to shoot, so I say that person must be punished under the law. I have seen many incidents in my real life that have happened in our country, but I have not come across a fatal incident. Maybe there was a fight between fans of both teams but I never like incidents where life has to be given, so that person who killed him should be punished under the emergency law.
That is why he got the courage to shoot, so I say that person must be punished under the law. I have seen many incidents in my real life that have happened in our country, but I have not come across a fatal incident. Maybe there was a fight between fans of both teams but I never like incidents where life has to be given, so that person who killed him should be punished under the emergency law.
No, your favorite sports team is not worth dying for. Life is beautiful and amazing, and there are many wonderful things in it besides your favorite and unloved teams and besides sports in general. Sports are cool, but they are a stupid reason to die. In fact, I have to say that being a sports fan is quite dangerous. But it is one thing to be a quiet football fan who enjoys watching a football match at home, and another to assert yourself in friends with other fans or to get into a conflict with a representative of the law. Although, in all likelihood, the deceased football fan was not to blame for the conflict.
I understand how annoying that kind of noise can be, but what the building manager and the authorities did to try to handle the situation was excessive and unnecessary, especially to the point of shooting an unarmed person, which is out of line. They could have done something more reasonable, especially when dealing with football fans, repressive measures are usually not necessary. I hope that the guilty parties are punished appropriately for their actions, and that the families of the victims can get justice for the death of their loved ones.
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
If I am asked this question in person, I Will respond to you... "For how much"? Because if I die the club activities will keep existing while I have exited.I will still still return an indirect question to you that... "Of what benefit will I die for the sake of being a sport club fan"?
I literally don't see any sensible reason why I will be asked such question when I am aware that when the club wins it doesn't put money to my account neither does it performs increment to Bitcoin market where I am invested on.
Likely, when they losses it does not still make my bankroll diminish so, whoever taking it to the next level of dieing for a club is a useless one.
You can count me in to live a century if deaths are determined by sacrifices of being a football fan because I can not be affordable dieing for one.
Both restaurant manager and security guard are crazy, although it might affect other people due to his noise, but they didn't think twice before doing that.
We live in a crazy world now, most people can't take stress and doing whatever they like, this might be the reason why we should embrace privacy. Making people hurt even it's really just for a small thing can lead you die.
What should they expect if our team won the match? no celebration and being quiet like teacher taught us when we're in school?
We live in a crazy world now, most people can't take stress and doing whatever they like, this might be the reason why we should embrace privacy. Making people hurt even it's really just for a small thing can lead you die.
What should they expect if our team won the match? no celebration and being quiet like teacher taught us when we're in school?
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
For me of course not because if that happens it will be ridiculous death, but I consider them as militants who are really willing to do anything for their favorite team even though basically no one will give their lives to defend football team because an incident like that also no one can predict will happen.But it should be victory party like that would be much safer when done at home, they can have fun in the yard without any risk, it won't even bother anyone, but indeed incidents like this have been repeated several times.
When I read the Topic titled I thought it was the same as the one I joined the discussion here some time ago but it is different. This is the second occurrence in less than three months. Extreme fanaticism is has dire consequences and they are not always pretty. But this story is not exactly about extreme fanaticism but more about being a public nuisance and disobeying the rules of the host. I fault the security guard for not exercising restraint over unarmed civilians who from the story posed no serious security threat to him or other customers at the restaurant. The owner of the restaurant could have invited the police to expelled the noisy football fans, that could have saved the the court case and jail sentence for manslaughter. It is never worth it dying for any football club because no football player in those clubs would.
The direct answer is no, but we also need to see from a fan’s perspective. Generally a fan becomes a diehard fan when he doesn’t have any person to love. He finds joy in the team and specifically for a player. He relates to the players of the club and hence supports them. But yes, we need to also know our limits. We know that, when you win something big, you celebrate a lot, and clearly the club’s win was something like a personal win for the fan. But the dying incident was something that was very unexpected.
A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
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I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes, but some set of humans won't just look away if they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan.
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
You know, when I saw this topic I thought he actually killed himself or got into a fight because of his support for his club, but In this case he was killed because he was celebrating. It's hurtful that in the world of pain, someone else created a joyful avenue for himself and his life is cut short because he was happy and celebrating. According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
CLICK ME!!!
I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes, but some set of humans won't just look away if they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan.
WHAT are your opinion? Is it worth dying for a football club?
He was murdered and the situations leading to his death is not just worth it at all. Football viewing center is always associated with arguments and jubilations for fans of winning teams. It's not new to the manager, even if he's a Manchester United fan, he shouldn't let his emotions mix with business. The guard on the other hand is very much trigger hungry and shouldn't have expressed himself with his gun in that situation.
Justice should be served hot!!.
A fan of the English Premier League club, Arsenal, John Ssenyonga, was fatally shot on Wednesday night while celebrating his team’s 2-0 victory over Manchester United.
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
CLICK ME!!!
I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes,but some set of humans won't just look away if they eventually got stired up by their close friends, opposition club fan.
WHAT are your opinion? Isit worth dying for a football club?
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
According to the BBC, the noise from the crowd infuriated the manager of the building who asked the guard to intervene while he switched off power at the restaurant.
The move reportedly annoyed the fans who decided to make more noise at the restaurant, causing the security guard to open fire. In that frenzy, 30-year-old Ssenyonga was hit while another was injured.
The case has been taken over by the department of Police and the two culprits, the guard and the manager as reportedly on the run.
CLICK ME!!!
I saw a similar topic a couple of months ago, still from the same Location. Infact, I almost gave up until I read the whole story in details... Is Uganda a place where such level of rascality happens almost all the time?..
It's even more concerning that the round leather game was invented for entertainment purposes,
WHAT are your opinion? Is
Edit: Was the manager's decision to way off the crowd, in a bid to quench the tumult the best? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Who's supposed to be blamed for this -- the MANAGER or the GUARD?
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