Topic: Is lying now part of human nature? (Read 969 times)

Lying is the most hated act in society today, yet people focus on this noble act. When a person speaks the truth, many excuses are made by making the truth a lie. We are often the victims of this lie that is being tolerated in the world today. People are now getting attracted to lies day by day instead of starting the path of truth. And people are getting involved in various criminal activities with most false witness in exchange for money. They have made lying a leading habit in their life due to which people are now afraid to tell the truth. And in this era, if people reveal the truth, instead of prioritizing it, they indulge in lies and this is how people's humanity is changing.

Dude if u ask me I will say lying dwells in every human naturally, everyone is involved.

The government sugar coat us with lies during election campaigns to gain our votes during election,
Religious heads tell lies too to gain more believers and worshippers,
Parents tell one lie or the other to either instill fear or believe in their children,
While children also indulge in petty lies just to avert punishment from parents.

Which ever way a lie is been told in our day to day activities we must know that it is with an absolute aim which is always cheating and deceit.

Lying an the like are part of human nature plus part of any other living species. It is evolution, as giving false or misleafing information can give some benefit so it can be a staple of human behaviour as it can be for many other species. Competition requires to use any available benefit or abvantage to create that extra bit that allows victory. Unfortunately, the moral aspects are irrelevant when this happens.

Unknowingly to humans we lie, because is something that is used by parents to raise their children that is doing wrong, so when that child grows up and find out that thing his or her parent told them actually save them from derailing, they will see reasons to want to do it in some situation to help them, so subconsciously they do it without knowing.

It's true that lying has become pretty common these days, and it can sometimes seem harmless. But deep down, we all know it's not the best thing to do. Maybe it's time we try to be more honest with each other and ourselves. Let's break the cycle together! 😊

how old is time to be against this statement because I know quite well that to lie is controllable it is something that you can control and also maintain so lying is human nature shower but the good thing is that there is an extent that he will pay on through to people then they will know that it's a way for you to deceive them or take anything that belong to them so lying is not good in any form

Lying is natural but we should'nt make it part of us I know how it could be sometimes,  it's tempting but it could be curtailed, it is very important to note that human beings have this in them but I believe we have control over ourselves, lying is not done intentionally most times there is situation you will find yourself you might not have any option than to do it in other to cover up, but today people has taken it as a habit thats repeatedly done and most people are even proud of it, lying causes distrust, just imagine when you lie to a friend or even your partner and he or she finds out that you lied do you expect such person to trust you again the answer is no, so iin this case  we should desist from making it a habit because it can damage your reputation by making you worthless in the eye of your friends and close associate.

I know that lying is a part of woman life but what I want you to understand that we will take it as auto why it has not been a culture so we need to be having the mama have also LED her to be telling to me you cannot because of someone give false information and you decide to be giving a false information every time so that is very bad and I can't impress that my own as a woman living

Lying is part of human nature and there were some persons that can never stop to lie. This is a trend that had crash so many relationship and make people to lose those things that are more value to them. We need to stop the art of lying so that we can as well make things and children xxoming up to stop lying. too.

every individual have its own life to live so I believe that whoever that is using line it is based on the kind of life you choose to live with because we Own condemns the attitude the action of line the art of being a liar so I believe that if we acknowledge lies it will become generally accepted in any country that is why nobody embrace lies

Unfortunately yes lying has become our nature and we can't help it ,its too common that people don't consider it as a mistake now .
But trust me lying leads you to nowhere you have to face the reality and truth at some point of time and you cant run away from that.

Lying is something we humans can't do without, we live in a society where saying is truth is more risky than lies, we live in a society where even the truth can't set us free again, so we have no other option than lying.
I can't attest to say I have seen anybody who don't tell lies, some people lie in business, politics, marriage, etc. Because it's seen that if you truth is told, you might not gain in business, or might not win in politics or might loose your marriage...
That's my say though

Lying had always been part of human nature since creation, to begin with. It is just so bad the way it has creeped into every facets of civilization. Even most careers require one to tell lies inorder to be seen as a team player or tell lies to get promoted.  
Infact if you tell the truth too often, people get to maim you, call you a pastor or preacher, exempt you from certain occasions and even call you feeble or weak.
It is just the way society has normalized lying that makes it look cool, else it is one way to become delinquent fast.

If lies can be the outcome of an election result and upon which power position is attained, tell me where else and how else lies cannot thrive?

Lying is part of human nature but there are people that do it out of proportion. I have heard a real life experience of this and I was so much surprised.
I cannot say I don't lie, but if I tell lies I rarely do it and maybe I do it only when it's necessary. Either to save someone or to gain escape punishment, such as lies to your manager or lecturer for missing at work or in examination respectively.

But then I have lives with someone who tells 90% lies in everyday life. This dude tells lies and uses lies to cover lies and unfortunately it has become part of him that he cannot be able to say the truth anymore.

Lying & deceit has probably always been part of human nature. Even since early man there was probably deceit & theft of food or mate etc.

Humans follow laws but many have no moral compass. Nothing that human beings are capable of is off limits really. There are many bad people in the world sadly.

Maybe you have forgotten that the truth is bitter and lies is sweet in the mouth. Some people can not stop lying because the live by it. There are even people the lie to make money especially those government officials giving us that wrong estimate whereas they have hidden agenda to syphon money from the government purse. Things are really happening and it can never stop unless tye world ends. Politicians are the one that lie most because they always do that to embezzle money from the government account since they are the one in power to make decisions.

I think everyone must have lied at some point in their life. But never lie to hurt or lie about other people's mistakes.

Lying seems permissible if it's for the good. But never lie just for the sake of evil.

very right - 8/10 people are most liar. PEople lie all the time to save their face even on for the petty things - and this has made the world a terrible place.

Lying is something you can't control, no one can fully understand what's on your mind, no matter what the purpose of lying, most people will lie, but a lie needs many lies to cover it up.

Lying has become the norm, and it may be a lie casually, but some lies are well-intentioned, which can resolve many problems, but may reduce people's trust in you, and white lies are acceptable.

every human being who is still alive will continue to always lie, and that cannot be stopped by anything.
because there are 2 definitions of lying, namely,

1. lying for a crime
2. lie for good

lying for one's crime will continue to lie to others for personal gain and will be done every now and then as if it had become a habit. and in the field of cryptocurrencies there must also be someone who always lies for the sake of profit


and lying for good is so much better. because someone lies with reasons for the sake of goodness like, people lie to hide something that harms themselves.

So the conclusion is that it doesn't matter to lie. the most important thing is not for crime

The answer is no, as long as the human can still speak. Lies have been a part of our daily lives, which is not good; we usually lie when we are scared, hurt, or have a selfish desire to bring down others. The only problem with telling lies is that the people who tell them don't get intimidated or have second thoughts about saying them afterward. As for myself, I tell lies, but later on, I will tell the truth since I can take it. The current generation is much worse; they lie for their own good and will even lie to their parents.

Correct people lie all the time to clear their bads and destroy their own image -  i don't like people who lie all the time
I don't even make friends with the lier to be friend you have to speak the truth otherwise - I back off

Lies will be covered up with other lies.
deception is the deliberate manipulation of information, behavior and images with the aim of leading others to conclusions or beliefs that are not true. lying is a trait and almost every human being has ever done it, either for good or for misuse with a specific purpose. lying has become a part of human daily life, and it can be said that generally a person lies only in certain situations. however, basically lies have become an inherent part of human life that cannot be avoided. someday we will also do it, either for good or for personal gain.

Lying is something that has been there even before we were born,so since it has been there is like part of we human, dishonesty is also what makes us human.

Our capacity for dishonesty is as fundamental to us as our need to even trust ourselves, which ironically makes us terrible at detecting lies. Being deceitful is woven into our very own fabric so much that it would be truthful to say that to lie is human.

Sometimes people just lies they want achieve something else because theirs no lies that doesn't have it reason of lying to someone, but lie's is not part of human, it can be part of human when it's desperate of achieving what it desire, so that is why i dispute the fact that lies is not generally meant for human

If we think it then, it could be true. Lies can either be intentional or not or perhaps because we've forgotten or chose not to be a part of such and reject it completely but, that doesn't justify the act to be right. It's wrong but, an undeniable part of human nature and the next we know, we are already committing the act.
Is it really possible for humans to live without telling a lie every now and then, I supposedly not and so it's one of those things we are forced to live with but, we don't have to be selfish about it though. It shouldn't come at a greater cost of some else's expense but in all, we have to realise the truth will surely come out at some point.

There are decent and transperant people who still exist without being indulge in lying or being compromised in any activities they are being found. Most at times they lies because they want to meets up with their target for instance, at work place or as a workman who have lot of activities on their hands. Few days ago I called a plumber to come help and get my tap fixed which I already paid him for the task his to do but I noticed he weren't sincere to inform of not coming at the same day because he had other jobs at hands. This can be lie and also a deliberate and intentional acts.

You have the right idea. But regarding Abram (before he was named Abraham by God), he lied to save himself. Of course, he didn't have to, because God was protecting him. But he was weak, as we all are. We often talk what we think is right, but we miss a little at times, and so speak what is not truth.

Is lying now part of our nature? You say the word "now" as if its a trait humans just picked up and decided to try out. Lying has been there. Allow me use the word 'inherent'.
A simple question for you, op. If you asked to tell a fib to save a loved one from being hurt, would you or would you not?

 The thing is, as humans we do not want to make lying a habit but we can't help these things. Lolz, I'm not defending the action but even in biblical times, Abraham had to lie to save his wife Sarah from being taken.

you can, as long as you really mean it. I honestly think it's very important. but, if lying for the sake of the truth, I don't think it would be a problem.

for example, someone who is about to be killed. and the person to be killed is hiding somewhere without the killer knowing. we know where it's hiding. but maybe, when asked by the killer, do we see the person to be killed or not? we have to lie and say we don't know.

For me I lying is part of human nature and most we don't actually know we are lying

The funny part is we actually tell our self's lie ,that is OK for me to just say it won't hurt anyone 

People can never stop lying because they will always wanted to satisfy their selfish desires at any cost, lies has been what is now common to an extent that people have assumed lying as a lifestyle or a means to display their interest towards achieving a particular thing and they no longer see lies as something bar anymore but a smart way against another, also this digital world of technology has also help the increase in the rate people lie because no one can verify them from what they do or say using the internet or phones.

I guess...yes, lying is part of human nature, as always. Whatever the topics are, we have to remember that humans are prime animals as well. How to survive has never been wiped from our genes. Lying in most time is bad, because we don't necessarily have to lie to protect us. And sometimes, we lie just because we have to tell some white lies in order to let others feel better or avoid harms. Lying is not necessarily bad and taking it as part of human nature is acceptable.

People tell alie nowadays like that is their truth like they are literally that much into lies, no resentment, no regret just justifying their lies. Thinking their lies as harmless and for someone's benefit but keep one thing in mind lies are never harmless, one lie leads to another lie and so on .

I believe that any lie that was told to save anyone's life is more significant and valuable than the truth, which can lead to putting a person's life in danger. However, it's undoubtedly not a good practice to lie and make it your permanent habit.

Is now in every human nature to lie easily without feeling guilty just to cover up tracks. Everyone now thinks that lying is a normal way of life and sincerity doesn't pay if you choose to be.

I wonder what cultivates this kind of culture of lying in us cos we do know that lies can destroy trust and friends between friends but we choose it over truth without minding the repercussions

Yes I agree with your point sometime people tell lies to save a situation or to keep someone's heart and save them from getting hurt ,that type is harmless and causes no one any danger . But some people are fond of or in habit of telling unnecessary lies and that also can cause damage to someone .
But whatsoever the reason is telling lies should not be part of your nature and routine, if it's needed to tell lies it's better to remain silent.

Lying has been there in human origin, even from the garden of Eden, which the holy bible stated and as a result lying wouldn't be easy to comb.
Lying to o me can be classified into two:

Necessary lying: this very aspect of lying has to do with saving a situation at cost of lying and I've always tolerated this very one especially in relationships. And this kind of lies are mostly told when things are not deliberately done just to safe the situation and calm the atmosphere

Unnecessary lying: this very one is just a perpetual form of lying jus for the sake of not telling a truth or wanting someone get involved in something.
And this type of lie is done consciously and without remorse. I frown so much at this very type of lies at all time .

N/B. I'm not saying lying is good but I feel most times it is necessary to lie as human nature is highly unpredictable.

It's sad reality but yes lying is part of human nature now ,people are habitual of telling lies in their daily life. Although it is a difficult way to deal with things as you can yourself forget your lies after sometime.  Telling truth might be difficult at start but it's better than 100 lies.

It started as a small lie, and ended up being a big lie. When we lie once, we will lie again, and it will become an endless lie.

I think humans are not free from lies. Even an honest person may have lied once in his life. Some people lie for good, and there are people who lie for evil.

Despite all that, we humans are not perfect creatures. It's just that we as humans, we must always do good to humans and stay away from things that are immoral.

Of course lying is a big part of human nature. Consider the big lie that these guys are unraveling - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61172061.

People keep one telling lies in order to achieve what they want which is wrong perspective because i don't think that lie's can embrace anything in the life of someone that lies, but one thing is that in this period of time many people do lie to achieve their goals which is not necessary, so that is what i understand, in some of the statement people do make against some people and tarnish the image of other people people.

people not to lie is it possible?
Of course you can, because lying is a bad human trait.
if you continue to lie, there will be many things that will harm yourself,

• will not be trusted by others, that's for sure
• difficult to make friends, people who lie like to be shunned
• although honest, sometimes other people do not believe.

Be honest people, because honest people will always get a good place.

I always thought you’re better off telling the truth because wasting your mental energy on trying to remember lies isn’t a good use of your time. Plus if you get caught in a lie it’s awkward. I’ve found people appreciate the truth and hearing bad news can actually increase your trust for the person telling you.

I am shocked at the amount of lying done by officials lately. Covid for example was such a widespread lie to get people to take an ineffective vaccine. Now the White House is lying about us being in a recession. I’m honestly surprised by the blatant lies. I guess if people were smarter then lies wouldn’t be so effective and maybe wouldn’t be such an important role in liberal politics.

Lying is part of human nature, I have no doubt about it.

According to my observation, socially-savvy people are especially good with "white lies" to grease social interactions.

It's often found in the behavior of small children. They quickly learn to lie, even when their parents aren't lying to them.
-Who ate the chocolate?
-I don't know, mom?
-Did you?
-No!
-Tell the truth!
This is a conversation we come across in every single household at some point.

But it gets interesting. My mother had a stroke and it damaged her brain to the point that she reverted back to her early instincts. She would deny taking or eating something, even if she was holding it in her hand at that moment. She would also become extremely possessive and gluttonous, like a child.
I feel like these instincts are buried deep in our brains but in time we learn to suppress them.

There is no 'Now a part of" about it. Lying has ALWAYS been part of the Human Psyche.
Certainly not an admirable one and certainly something to be discouraged but nonetheless it has always been there and no doubt always will be.

Lying has always been part of human nature... since Adam and Eve fell into sin, and passed this sinning ability on to their offspring.

Lying came from the devil, who talked Adam and Eve into eating the fruit, and caused death to come into the world.

We are all very familiar with the word LIE, as familiar as we know the word honest.
Every human being must have lied. everyone, or at least almost everyone knows that lying is a bad thing. however, in order to avoid unpleasant situations, we often lie.

Humans are creatures that are destined to have many traits, the meaning of the word lying is very broad in scope. lying is the deliberate manipulation of information, behavior, and self-image with the aim of leading another person to an incorrect conclusion or belief.

every human being has their own emotional nature, emotional nature is a natural trait that exists in humans and cannot be compared. Human emotional nature can change at any time, because human nature is dynamic. the dynamics of emotional nature can be influenced and affect many aspects.
so the most appropriate answer to the OP's question, of course back to each individual.

There are different perspectives how people think about lying ,some people think it as harmless,some think it as good for someone but honestly lying is not a good habit whatever the intention is. If you think someone can get hurt because of your truth it's better to remain silent instead to telling lies and raise someone's hopes.

I think no human is perfect and as such would have flaws. Lying is one of them. To say a human can do without lying is a bit of a stretch. It's like a necessary evil..

 You lie to either get away from a situation or incriminate someone. But I doubt humans can do without it

sometimes many people lie for the safety and interests of themselves or others, but if humans are given a book between the two choices of lying and doing good, many people will lie. but we return to ourselves again what he did was good or bad, because humans have been given a smarter mind to choose

Lies are human nature that is always there. If you continue to lie, it will be something that is detrimental to others, as well as to yourself.

Sometimes there are many people who lie because they have to. If we want to stop lying, the only way is to always be honest in every situation.

Regarding honesty, actually some people are not honest with themselves. For example when he had an accident, and it made him not okay. Then someone asked how he was 'are you okay?' surely we will answer 'I'm fine' that's also in my opinion, including lying anyway.

But I don't know, that's just my opinion.

I don't think lying is not supposed to be part of human nature, lying is a nature of man. In the normal life just the way we have bad and good, the same way we have truth and lie. These characteristics is a nature in man lifes .

Initially,lying was not supposed to be part of human nature,but the world is corrupt,and no man seems to be truthful anymore,so it looks as if everyone is following the trend.One bad thing about lying is that once you lie,you always feel uncomfortable,that is to me oh,I don't know for other person's,but my conscience always have a way of flogging me if I lie.

Home training can also be why people develop lying as an habit,  a child who is coming up and have habit of lying. If the parents keeps rebuking that child from such habit from small the child will quickly drop the habit. But where no parental control to stop the child from lying, the child will see lying as a life style that is not bad.

People lie to get what they want, most people wouldn't want to say the truth and remain in pain. Like they always say that the truth is bitter and lies sounds sweet to tell that is why most people prefer to say lie to remain their comfort zone.

People tell lies for different reasons, either to seal a business deal or to gain fame in the environment they found themselves,  Most times people lie because the society has been polluted with all kinds of evil so nobody is going to listen to what you say unless you say things you know that will please them which are lies. I only lie when I don't want people to understand what am doing or where my next line of action will go.

^^^ has to do with the fact that nobody knows the truth - except, maybe, a tiny bit here and there. But everybody wants to be esteemed... told that he is good by other people. So, he exerts the little bit of truth he thinks he knows, just so he won't feel so insignificant.

Perhaps that is why I post in the forum. But even if I don't have the complete truth, back off and look at what I say from a distance, and see how it fits with whatever  is going on in the world and life.

Man was born and conceived in sin,It is human nature to sin,it's only God that that cannot lie,I'm not trying to justify the fact that lieing is not bad,it's quite bad but most activities today are done using lies,that is to say that one lies to get what they want.  People tend to love lies than truth in today's society,that is why most people prefer lieing than saying the truth.

No man can say since he came to this world he never lied before. Lie is part of the nature of man,sometimes  we lie to protect ourselves to people who can be toxic by not giving them information of our real self, sometimes lie can just be the only option to save your life at the moment. When lie comes be what can hinder a brother or sister in one way or the other, lying against someone else this is when lies becomes evil. Lying to benefit from someone is evil

Of course, humans can avoid telling lies because nobody was born with that nature, it is a habit that one cultivates to live so stopping it only requires the person(Lier to say things that he or she is aware of or better still keep callm. Also, the society we live in today accepts lies more than the truth so for you to convince them you tend to say lies so long as it will help you to get what you want not minding the fact you're doing the wrong thing.

The truth is, humans will always lie and let's accept that fact. Every individual in this forum at some point in time must have told a lie. The difference could be what prompted it and for what purpose the lies is meant to archive. You might lie to save or cause trouble and some other times to keep your ego. Non of that is acceptable as they all hide what is actual and ought to be accepted no matter how bitter it might have seemed.

Let's be clear on something, even choosing not to tell the truth and by that I mean, avoiding to tell the truth could typically be classified as lying. You know the fact but have chosen to keep it in the shadows. Its often best you let the receiver deal with it.

   There are two types of lying , maybe bad or good. Sometime White lies can help us to hide the real thing to avoid any conflict or Argument. An the other one can cause a war or conflict. Lying it's connected in our life we can not deny it.

Lying is against all moral believe, yes is accepted because no tribe that likes lies or benefits from lying, to lie bring some hindrance to certain opportunities, right now i believe that nobody for this Earth who likes lies and who believe with likes. I does not tell lies because it can deprived some thing if the person I'm dealing with notice, so we need Skip that from our memory knowing likes can bring down our reputation.

Lying is against every moral belief but then, it kind of has become essential in most people's lives. Humans can't help but tell a lie or two and will go as far as calling it a "necessity".
 I don't think the human beings can live without the art of lying now as it has sunk into our minds that it's one of the means of survival.

Lying is against the accepted norms and value of the society, therefore it cannot be part of human nature. Just as a child is born blank without knowledge of anything until the family and society begins to inculcate certain behavior that is how humans learn how to lie. Although sometimes  we are forced to lie because of certain conditions such as lying to avoid sanctions or get certain favour, but it does not in anyway entail that it is part of human nature. Believing that it is part of human nature would give us the boldness or excuse to keep lying. The question you would asked yourself is how do you feel when someone lie to you? Do you just say, it's part of human nature or you start distrusting that person. Lie leads to so many ills in the society, hence it should be abhorred totally. 

Telling lies did not start today. It has been there right from man's creation in Eden according to Bible narration. We saw how Jacob deceived and lied to his father Isaac to get Esau's blessings. His grandfather Abraham also did it to save his life before Abimelech. Today most people lie like it means nothing anymore. Husbands lying to wives and wives doing same. Even children. The painful one is clergy doing same in order to entice their congregation so they can relax and feel excited to bring out money.

All lies are not bad , if you are lying for selfish reasons, it is bad but if you lie for humanity then it is fine because humanity is  above morality. Though we all are brought up not to tell lies and be honest and truthful in all situations  but we do lie. There are tons of reasons why do we lie and some are acceptable and some are not but bitter pill to swallow is that we do lie  which simply means that lying is in our nature and that is the bitter truth. We tend to lie in some situation because we think by lying we have some gains which is not possible to achieve if we tell truth. When we deceive someone by lying it is morally wrong and sin as well.

https://www.psychreg.org/lying-human-nature/

Lying is basically a normal life of human being,even when you intend no to tell it ,you find yourself already saying unknowingly then later question yourself for saying it at the first place ,lying isnt a good thing and it becomes an habit that is registered in your mind,stopping it takes a more effort of being careful ,thinking before talking ,talking less and asking yourself questions before talking ,processing every word that about to comes out of your mouth before uttering them out.

If you ask me 'if lying was a part of human nature' I would say yes! I mean, it's not a virtue that one should portray but still, it is a part of our very existence.

Just take a second to imagine a world without lies. I tell you, there would be lots of chaos. There is no such thing as a good lie but still, there are truths that immediately uncovered could result in serious distress situations. Little wonder why some nations have got red boxes kept away in some safe somewhere and they don't allow the public to know the truth of the political operations of there own nation and they call it secretes.

Secretes breath forth lies! Every human keeps a secrete and lies once in a while. What could be your reason for this? It might seem right but, a lie is a lie and it would hurt still, no matter what it's meant to cover.

I think that probably the most common lie is where one person knows the truth, and then lies to hide that truth. In many instances the truth is known only to that person, and it can be extremely difficult or impossible for others to determine whether or not they are lying. I flip a coin, and tell you it landed heads... how can you know if this is true?

One of the most amazing books I've ever read, Atlas Shrugged, talks about this and addresses, through Ayn Rand's objectivist perspective, a point that completely changed my view of the issue.

Rand says - through her realistic fiction characters - that for her, lying is submitting your perspective to someone else's, it's as if you recognize that the other person's vision is better or should be a substitute for yours, so you lie to adapt to it, which is to falsify reality, which never bears good fruit.

In the same vein, there is the perspective that when lying, you will always need to be careful in presenting your perspective, it will always require care and new lies and it is extremely counter-productive on a mental level.

Today I understand that there is no reason to falsify reality and that we all need to learn to deal with reality as it is. Of course, this does not mitigate the risk of differences in perspectives on reality, but at least everyone will be dealing with the same inputs.

Lying has always been an integral part of social interactions, not just for humans, but for animals as well (from butterfly larva pretending to be of ant origin just so they could take care of it, to wolves learning how to move their eybrows and become dogs to play on humans emotions for food). So no, we can't stop telling lies because it is an integral part if social interactions as well as a defence mechanism (facial expressions that are diferent from ones true feelings). I have to dissagre with Kant when he says that there are no conceivable circumstances in which lying is morally acceptable.

The factor's of lie's is the way of getting something that doesn't belong for you, people enjoy lie's and mostly people who is jobless and willing to to win what does not belong to the. Humans nature is not about lies and is not something we can stand and say it is good to tell somebody untrue to benefit from the person, some religion skip that, and they don't bring such policy to board

Lying is not supposed to be part of the human nature, but human nature and the life of human being is so wicked and evil that you can't live a free life with them if you don't lie to them.I'm not justifying lies,but with what is happening in the society today,it is only those whom have determined to be lieing that can make money.Lie is used to cover the sins that one has committed.It is only those that have chosen the path of God that lives without lies.Only those who have the fear of God in them  that does not lie.But it is good when we live without lieing,and it is moral to live without it.

Lying only exists if something's that's spoken of is demonstrably untrue with intent. In fact, a lot of peoples' lies aren't actually lies. They're mistakes from being uninformed thus there isn't any intent to say something that's false. Ignorance is human nature more than anything.

Lying is part of a politician's nature, though 

Yeah, I've shared that link myself a few times. The number is quite astonishing, and I do think this is a big part of his success, the speed with which one lie is replaced by the next. Our modern 24-hour news culture is a big part of this as well, everything is 'breaking news', up-to-the-minute... and whenever Trump said something outrageous, it wasn't like everyone could sit back and assess it over the next day, it just got buried five minutes later by the next lie... and there was no time to focus on that one either, because the next one had already appeared, etc. The fact that he was able to keep this up almost without a break is quite a skill in itself.

A habitual liar did get elected into the WH.
He successfully spat out over 30,000 "untruth" and misleading information and had people gobble them up. Information that could be easily verified too. He's probably skilled in the art of lying to continuously fool people over and over enriching himself in the process.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

Diogenes of Sinope (l. c. 404-323 BCE) a Greek went around streets with a lantern in Athens. he was searching for an honest man. To his surprise he found none. But I believe I am one   Any ways its a place where we all want to maximize our profits. Profit of one is loss of the other, and to make profit lying become part of game. Stay honest, they will fool you, or else take the charge get smart, even if you are called a liar.

Yeah, definitely, I was talking more about the evolutionary origin of lying and the extent to which lying is 'natural' behaviour amongst the human population.

Certainly the modern world is very different to the world we've lived in for the vast majority of our evolutionary history as a social species, and selection pressures are no longer the same. It's no doubt true that habitual lying can be rewarded much more now than it has been in the (evolutionary) past, because we live in a global society where we can interact a lot more with people we don't know*, and the stuff we can lie about is no longer easily verifiable (or necessarily verifiable at all). The guy who keeps telling his tribe "There's a lion coming! Get back to the cave!" gets found out, and kicked out of the group. The guy who says "The reason you don't have a job is all these immigrants" does not get found out so much. Who knows, one day a habitual liar might even rise to become POTUS...




* as I'm doing right now. Although I'm not lying!

People at default tell lies because they see it as the normal thing everyone does. But the fact that majority tell lies doesn't make it right. Sometimes situations warrant people to compromise standards by lying, they see it as an act used to save themselves of trouble and its becoming the human nature, but it's not supposed to be. Personal standards and determination not to tell lies helps a lot in staying away from lying.

Theirs some kind things that is not suppose to be present. Asking if lie's is part of life and which everyone knows that many people choose lies as hobby and especially scammers that gives false information to extort funds from people. Humans has already taken it as culture so since culture is demand lies and corruption can not stop except every body is comfortable of live living and we kny that is no way every body can be comfortable of live

Lying is a bad trait no doubt, but sometimes some person don't like the truth, that's just how they are.

Considering Africa for example, if a child did wrong and tells the truth he still gets the beating of his life, but if lying sometimes give him/her an escape the route which they take.

The Bible also say the truth will set us free, but most of the time we end up have troubles sometimes for tell the truth. I'm not saying lying is better but it is an escape route some times.

Internet often distorts these things, e.g. it may seem that there are more liars around... but in the end it's still about surround yourself with people that you can trust.


It can work the other way too, can't it? For example, politicians and business people tend to lie a lot but have no problem reproducing, and often hold an edge over hoi polloi. I can imagine an outcome where the species is dominated by liars. I don't think we're anywhere near that or moving significantly in that direction, and if it were to happen it would basically kill any kind of progress (Soviet Block comes to mind, where deception, corruption, and theft was rampant), but it is in theory possible.


None of the negative ratings you got are for "giving away Bitcoin" or "good deeds", and most refer to documented untrustworthy actions. E.g. collecting Bitcoin to begin your scheme under a guise of "investment" and then renaming it to some sort of charity when the abysmal ROI of said investment became obvious. Speaking of lying, you do realize that your trust ratings are public, and so are the references? Why do you lie so blatantly about something so easily visible? Rhetorical question.

People have grown so accustomed to lying in their daily lives that in spite of being an honest person, I find that most people take what I say as not being truthful. Try telling my story at a bar sometime… I’ve literally been laughed at for saying things I don’t even think are hard to believe. I imagine if I told my entire story, 999 out of a thousand people would call me a liar. Want to see this in action? I’ve been giving away Bitcoin on a weekly basis for 10+ years now and people still call my organization a Ponzi scheme and I’ve even been left negative trust for my good deeds, because the reality that I’ve been giving up so much money for so long when I didn’t have to seems too hard to believe to be true for most people so they assume it’s a lie. Funny how human nature works. People are quick to put their own immoral beliefs on others and assume that everyone is as shitty a person as they are. The sooner in life you learn this, the better.

Lying is an evil trait because if you used to tell lies, you will become addicted to it in an alarming way. Because the more you tell lies, the more you don't care about your stories whether it's true or not, and sometimes you tell lies stories to make people laugh, and when you find that entertaining to others, you keep doing it as if seems you don't really care about the consequences. But do you know that slandering people are far worse lies than you could ever do? Better not to be engaged with such action before it's uncontrollable.

There are some lies that are necessary for example, telling your wife about her cook was good to prevent her from being disappointed after a long day of work to preserve your relationship and live a happy life but I think that's the only valid reason you could ever lie and there are some more but I just don't know 

for now it's hard to leave lies because even lies can become a necessity. and hard to leave

Usually someone becomes a lie too for some reason. and not without reason.

As you said, lying is a natural human habit. This habit is very difficult to break, if we only lie once then we will lie the next time, and so on

I think lying sometimes has always been a part of human nature, for at least as long as we have lived together in groups and possessed sufficient intelligence to misrepresent the world to others.
From an evolutionary perspective though, persistent liars will be selected against, and people with a tendency for habitual deceit will gradually be weeded out of the gene pool... this is because we have memory, and learn to distrust those who always deceive. Reciprocal altruism is a cornerstone of our success as a species, and if you always behave in an untrustworthy way, then you lose its benefits.

Some lies are necessary sometimes to not hurt someone's feeling. Lying however becomes irritating and a problem when someone begins to tell lies for the most unnecessary things. So every human somehow has told a lie, but  not all humans continue telling lies...some become mature and understand that no one will beat you up at that stage if you told the truth.

The thing is reality it is very difficult before you found a statement that contains two hundred characters with out lies what they said for the post you quotes and reply is nothing but the truth because lies has become culture to people and it is few of people who does not take lies serious as norms but many people lie to get what they want and the world now is not seeing the truth as real and believing that lies is what they choose as the truth

jes the world is either so complicated that they say the wrong things or they simply don't understand it so they say wrong things, this makes even many jews liers or trash talkers, although i would strictly distinguish those.

with liers being people that deliberately say wrong things to gain something, like a trader that wants to sell better, while trash talkers are people that don't know better without admitting it.

american jews like bill maher and jon steward, are trash talkers as they don't want to lie but they don't admit that they don't know better
but heavens/god/allahu akbar/the gods still give you a warning sign from such people, they blind their eyesight (punishment for shortsightedness), and make them wear big fat glasses, like jon steward and bill maher indeed do.





so you end up seeing jews that pretend to know stuff without being humble about their knowledge and admitting that they don't know a lot but they wear big fat classes that will warn them from them.



so i think strictly orthodox jews, muslims and christians  that are humble and admit that they don't know better can be considered "not liers" like for example Ben Shapiro but their information could be trashy. so indeed ben shapiros information could be trashy but as a orthodox jews he is humble and admits that.
so heavens/god/gods/allahu akbar don't have to warn you.



Ben Shapiro is humble about his knowledge and publicly admits that, he fights against far left woke extremism, but he still lives with limited information and based on that some of his information is trash. like for example his jew nazi allegiance with Zelinski against Putin.

note: that Bill maher and Jon steward are now forced to wear glasses since Qanon!!!!

if they don't admit that their knowledge is limited and their source not divine and holy they are trash talkers.

regards

I like that you were being honest about not liking being liked to. No one likes being lied to yet we all lie to each other. It's really hard for me to accept that it has become a societal norm to lie

I don't think so we can ever do that, Lying is a very basic human activity, an activity which almost everyone does on daily basis in some form or the other. You said lying isn't good, I think this blanket statement is not really appropriate, lying can be at times best to calm down the situation, it might not be a permanent solution but can be a big temporary fix in multiple situations, but yes it does hampers the credibility of any human being, as normal it is for any human to lie, equally frustrating it is to hear a lie from someone, I don't know about everyone but I feel a very big dissatisfaction and frustration whenever someone lies to me, so even though telling lies is a part of normal human nature, listening to lies really isn't.

Once you accept that truth is subjective, lying becomes impossible.

Lying is a typical human activity. Actually when your kids start lying that's when you know their brain is maturing. That said, societies in the past had made sure to discourage it for the in-group. I think that these days the "progressive" culture is more permissive of it. Usually when it's in relation to pet movements - for example the slap on the wrists women get for making false accusations or when minorities report fake hate crimes like Juicy did.

Telling a fib today is considered harmless and most people seem to lie so quickly and are very good at it too. We all know lying isn't good anyway it's being looked at but we all indulge in it and very frequently too. And today, it is considered harmless and a little white lie; almost innocent lol.
Can we as humans ever stop telling lies?