Is Macron's tour of Africa too late?

KingScorpio

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Quote from: asche on March 17, 2019, 05:15:25 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on March 17, 2019, 05:13:35 AM

Quote from: asche on March 16, 2019, 10:36:04 AM

Quote from: Jet Cash on March 12, 2019, 12:31:25 PM

many of the population is learning Mandarin instead of French.

You do realize French is still a legal language in most of African countries, meaning it is taught in school?

This is not the case for Mandarin, or even Chinese in general.

poor africans, french is so incontinous and difficult to learn.

German is no better...

i didn't said that german is easy, but german is a purpose and usefullnes driven langauge, that got reforms not according to how it sounds but according to how usefull it is for communication

the correlation of written and spoken langauge is in german by far better then french

asche

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Quote from: KingScorpio on March 17, 2019, 05:13:35 AM

Quote from: asche on March 16, 2019, 10:36:04 AM

Quote from: Jet Cash on March 12, 2019, 12:31:25 PM

many of the population is learning Mandarin instead of French.

You do realize French is still a legal language in most of African countries, meaning it is taught in school?

This is not the case for Mandarin, or even Chinese in general.

poor africans, french is so incontinous and difficult to learn.

German is no better...

KingScorpio

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Quote from: asche on March 16, 2019, 10:36:04 AM

Quote from: Jet Cash on March 12, 2019, 12:31:25 PM

many of the population is learning Mandarin instead of French.

You do realize French is still a legal language in most of African countries, meaning it is taught in school?

This is not the case for Mandarin, or even Chinese in general.

poor africans, french is so incontinous and difficult to learn.

but most is not true actually

Mometaskers

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Quote from: sheenshane on March 16, 2019, 09:27:07 AM

Quote from: Mometaskers on March 13, 2019, 09:43:40 PM

Africa can be considered a Chinese colony now. Most of the infrastructure China is building are roads, bridges and ports - the better able to transport the resources they are craving for and to make it easier to dump their cheap exports (which has already killed off some manufacturing in smaller Asian countries).

France and China can actually help each other to colonize the African territories. Last time, I have seen a video about China letting countries to borrow from them and if the country will not be able to pay on their dealt time, China will take a piece of their land and will build a structure to be considered as an investment for long term purposes.

We can't tell that France's Marcon's tour is too late because, in fact, they are actually ahead of the time. If they will set an alliance with China, they would be the best partner.

Help each other? I remember the last time the British and French helped each other help themselves and how well that turned out for the entire world until now.

asche

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Quote from: Jet Cash on March 12, 2019, 12:31:25 PM

many of the population is learning Mandarin instead of French.

You do realize French is still a legal language in most of African countries, meaning it is taught in school?

This is not the case for Mandarin, or even Chinese in general.

sheenshane

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Quote from: Mometaskers on March 13, 2019, 09:43:40 PM

Africa can be considered a Chinese colony now. Most of the infrastructure China is building are roads, bridges and ports - the better able to transport the resources they are craving for and to make it easier to dump their cheap exports (which has already killed off some manufacturing in smaller Asian countries).

France and China can actually help each other to colonize the African territories. Last time, I have seen a video about China letting countries to borrow from them and if the country will not be able to pay on their dealt time, China will take a piece of their land and will build a structure to be considered as an investment for long term purposes.

We can't tell that France's Marcon's tour is too late because, in fact, they are actually ahead of the time. If they will set an alliance with China, they would be the best partner.

BADecker

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Gaddafi would have become a great power in Africa because of this. Sure, he wielded his power in many bad and wrong ways. But there was a lot of great good that was coming out of him. Too bad it was for the wrong purpose. I suspect that Macron is going to sneak over to Libya just to find out first hand a new way to make France powerful again, by copying Gaddafi's general mindset without his methods.

The Great Manmade River by Muammar Gaddafi

The Great Manmade River by Muammar Gaddafi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuazqa_r3Z8

Cool

mOgliE

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Quote from: Jet Cash on March 12, 2019, 12:31:25 PM

It will be interesting to see if Macron can recover influence in countries where many of the population is learning Mandarin instead of French.

France has the complete power in most of its ancient colonies. France is, truth be told, still a colonial empire though not as big as before.

Asia can't do shit and all its investments are just good news for France for a quite good reason:
France controls its former colonies both with military and currency.
The currency of 8 countries is directly controled by France with the Franc CFA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_African_CFA_franc

Additionnaly France has a strong military presence in Africa including Gabon that you were talking about:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_bases_militaires_fran%C3%A7aises_dans_le_monde#Gabon

With even more bases than USA in Western Africa xD

Basically Africa is for France the same thing as South America for US.

Mometaskers

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Africa can be considered a Chinese colony now. Most of the infrastructure China is building are roads, bridges and ports - the better able to transport the resources they are craving for and to make it easier to dump their cheap exports (which has already killed off some manufacturing in smaller Asian countries).

Seems no matter who the world power is, Africa still gets the raw deal.

Beerwizzard

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Both France and China are willing to use African natural resources. It will not cause any development of African countries. Then why should we care about France here? Situation from Chinese point of view is more interesting.

And answering the main question of the thread: