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April 23, 2018, 03:48:53 AM
#28
It can be rarher profitable if you make a plan and analyze all the pros and cons.

Personally I've invested in Cryptonex back in October-November and keep buying some more from time to time depending on the rate and market situation.
So my profit includes:

1. Cryptonex project offers its users pos mining which I use regulary - The profit is 12% annually. To get the reward from mining, I registered a web wallet, bought some CNX coins, transfered it to windows wallet. And now I just keep it online .
2. CNX is increasing while it is stored in my wallet and brings additional profit.
3. Just now I've started dealing with Cryptonex p2p platform, and you know, it can bring some extra money on crypto purchases and sells.

This works for me and I like this project.

Reviving an old post just to shill for your coin? I can appreciate the effort.

Just some thoughts:

1. Cryptonex volume on coinmarketcap seems to be UNRELIABLE because the reference is the cryptonex exchange itself. This was the case with Bitconnect which turned out to be a SCAM.
2. Cryptonex website uses all stock photos. Makes it like nothing is real.
3. What is blockchain acquiring? What does "the world's first blockchain acquiring" even mean? It may intrigue some teenage ICO investor but in reality it seems like BS. The website doesn't even explain this in the FAQ. There is no whitepaper.

Overall, Cryptonex smells like a SCAM.
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January 18, 2016, 03:59:02 AM
#27
I would like to PoS myself. I do not want to give control to others. PoS just need a very little computing power.

I think you have a good attitude towards this problem... I wouldn't trust a staking pool, there are to many variables... I've read Gleb Gamow's thread on stakeminers, about the fact that they are unsolvent. Keep the coins on your own rasbpi (like suggested in this thread). It'll cost you a couple bucks a year worth of power, but you'll have access to the private keys holding your coins at all times Wink
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January 18, 2016, 03:53:12 AM
#26
I would like to PoS myself. I do not want to give control to others. PoS just need a very little computing power.
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January 06, 2016, 07:17:23 AM
#25
So that is just a service to stake the coin on your behalf.

But should be PoS earning same in percentage terms on all the coins? If you have more coins than I, You mine x% coins, I will also mine x% coins.

That's the PoS pool that seems to be serious (be careful about giving control over your coins, though). You can find more information about how it works in their thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1091402.40
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January 06, 2016, 05:10:28 AM
#24
btw, this might be interesting for PoS investors
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-rokos-flavors-crypto-full-node-os-iot-devices-feedbackdiscussion-1084908

There are currently some PoS Pools that collect coins from investors to gain higher profits from staking.
I'd be very careful. I have been scammed by such a service 1 year ago and read something that one of the current providers doesn't so to be 100% legit, too.

Always think about: As soon as you've transferred your coins to such a service, they are out of your control and you never know if your coins are still available the next day. So it might be better to use a Raspi and use a solution like the link I posted

Can you just sell your coin to them?

Do you really mean sell or send?

The link I posted is a Linux system with several wallets included, so you can use a simple Raspi to stake your coins.
The PoS pools I mentioned are similar to usual PoW mining pools. But instead of hashrate, you deposit your coins there (like an online wallet). They use all deposited coins from all users to stake (gain higher PoS earnings due to higher amount of coins) and each users gets a share depending on the percentage of his deposit.

I hope I was able to answer your question?

So that is just a service to stake the coin on your behalf.

But should be PoS earning same in percentage terms on all the coins? If you have more coins than I, You mine x% coins, I will also mine x% coins.
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January 04, 2016, 05:26:42 PM
#23
btw, this might be interesting for PoS investors
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-rokos-flavors-crypto-full-node-os-iot-devices-feedbackdiscussion-1084908

There are currently some PoS Pools that collect coins from investors to gain higher profits from staking.
I'd be very careful. I have been scammed by such a service 1 year ago and read something that one of the current providers doesn't so to be 100% legit, too.

Always think about: As soon as you've transferred your coins to such a service, they are out of your control and you never know if your coins are still available the next day. So it might be better to use a Raspi and use a solution like the link I posted

Can you just sell your coin to them?

Do you really mean sell or send?

The link I posted is a Linux system with several wallets included, so you can use a simple Raspi to stake your coins.
The PoS pools I mentioned are similar to usual PoW mining pools. But instead of hashrate, you deposit your coins there (like an online wallet). They use all deposited coins from all users to stake (gain higher PoS earnings due to higher amount of coins) and each users gets a share depending on the percentage of his deposit.

I hope I was able to answer your question?
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January 04, 2016, 05:07:27 AM
#22
btw, this might be interesting for PoS investors
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-rokos-flavors-crypto-full-node-os-iot-devices-feedbackdiscussion-1084908

There are currently some PoS Pools that collect coins from investors to gain higher profits from staking.
I'd be very careful. I have been scammed by such a service 1 year ago and read something that one of the current providers doesn't so to be 100% legit, too.

Always think about: As soon as you've transferred your coins to such a service, they are out of your control and you never know if your coins are still available the next day. So it might be better to use a Raspi and use a solution like the link I posted

Can you just sell your coin to them?
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January 03, 2016, 12:11:56 PM
#21
btw, this might be interesting for PoS investors
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-rokos-flavors-crypto-full-node-os-iot-devices-feedbackdiscussion-1084908

There are currently some PoS Pools that collect coins from investors to gain higher profits from staking.
I'd be very careful. I have been scammed by such a service 1 year ago and read something that one of the current providers doesn't so to be 100% legit, too.

Always think about: As soon as you've transferred your coins to such a service, they are out of your control and you never know if your coins are still available the next day. So it might be better to use a Raspi and use a solution like the link I posted
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January 03, 2016, 12:00:27 PM
#20
Question is: IS PoS profitable. Nearly nothing in crypto IS profitable (unless you scam other people). It can be profitable but there's no guarantee.

Sure, there are price ups and downs. But if you are honest to yourself, that's not only a crypto thing. Check many FIAT currencies, stocks, indices or whatever. Each product you can invest money in has price swings, some are more, some are less extreme.

Like it was said before, you need to do research (like when investing in the "real world"). There are scammers, there are legit and smart people with good ideas but a lack of time and funds and of course established coins with active development.

Crypto and especially altcoins are very speculative & volatile. Invest only in coins you really have trust in. Don't invest more than you can afford to lose (it's sad to read when people lose their whole money in crypto). The same rules that are valid for any type of investment. Don't give the control of your coins to a 3rd party if you aren't 100% sure they are legit (i.e. PoS pools).

Ok, now you invested in a coin you like, keeping the wallet open and hope for results. PoS is like most investments not a get-rich-quick-scheme, due to the nature of staking. The idea of PoS what not to make stakeholders rich, but to secure the blockchain, so a coin needs longterm holders who from time to time sell a part of their coins but keep the majority.

And what to do when price goes down? What would you do as an investor of Apple when the price of the stock goes down? Nothing, cause you have trust in the company and believe the price drop will be only temporarily. There are a lot of factors that can cause a price drop, a huge price increase/decrease of BTC, holidays (people cashing out in FIAT), pump&dump and more. Have a look at stock-/forextraders. They take the advantage of a price drop to buy more for cheap and unload that portion when price comes back.

Just an example (not a PoS coin but will show what I mean):
http://prntscr.com/9lgrsx
A popular and established altcoin with some price swings in both directions. Buying the lows, selling at highs, together with extra coins from staking, would result in a nice profit. Currently, most altcoins rates are very low. But check out last April, the pump&dump period. All who bought for cheap in the bad months before made awesome profits. And as pumpers won't stop, the next p&d period will occur, for sure.

TL;DR
With a good selection of coins, patience and trust, you can make profits from PoS investments.
Nice and truth Smiley
Longterm and never gamble with funds you can not afford to lose is key factors for a healthy investment enviroment.
Never run it by emotions, but follow your plan!
POS is a virtual miner, and your earnings will vary just as with POW mining.

Happy staking!

IW
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January 02, 2016, 11:00:37 PM
#19
Question is: IS PoS profitable. Nearly nothing in crypto IS profitable (unless you scam other people). It can be profitable but there's no guarantee.

Sure, there are price ups and downs. But if you are honest to yourself, that's not only a crypto thing. Check many FIAT currencies, stocks, indices or whatever. Each product you can invest money in has price swings, some are more, some are less extreme.

Like it was said before, you need to do research (like when investing in the "real world"). There are scammers, there are legit and smart people with good ideas but a lack of time and funds and of course established coins with active development.

Crypto and especially altcoins are very speculative & volatile. Invest only in coins you really have trust in. Don't invest more than you can afford to lose (it's sad to read when people lose their whole money in crypto). The same rules that are valid for any type of investment. Don't give the control of your coins to a 3rd party if you aren't 100% sure they are legit (i.e. PoS pools).

Ok, now you invested in a coin you like, keeping the wallet open and hope for results. PoS is like most investments not a get-rich-quick-scheme, due to the nature of staking. The idea of PoS what not to make stakeholders rich, but to secure the blockchain, so a coin needs longterm holders who from time to time sell a part of their coins but keep the majority.

And what to do when price goes down? What would you do as an investor of Apple when the price of the stock goes down? Nothing, cause you have trust in the company and believe the price drop will be only temporarily. There are a lot of factors that can cause a price drop, a huge price increase/decrease of BTC, holidays (people cashing out in FIAT), pump&dump and more. Have a look at stock-/forextraders. They take the advantage of a price drop to buy more for cheap and unload that portion when price comes back.

Just an example (not a PoS coin but will show what I mean):
http://prntscr.com/9lgrsx
A popular and established altcoin with some price swings in both directions. Buying the lows, selling at highs, together with extra coins from staking, would result in a nice profit. Currently, most altcoins rates are very low. But check out last April, the pump&dump period. All who bought for cheap in the bad months before made awesome profits. And as pumpers won't stop, the next p&d period will occur, for sure.

TL;DR
With a good selection of coins, patience and trust, you can make profits from PoS investments.
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January 02, 2016, 04:09:39 AM
#18
It is too hard for me to mine bitcoin for many reason such as the price of miner hardware,  the difficulty of bitcoin,  and many others reason,  alternate of this problem is that i have to do mining by staking the pos altcoin,  but there is a problem here because i dont know pos mining is profitable or not,  mah be you all guys here have an exleriences with staking pos coin,  please i need your help!!!
POS can absolutely be profitable, but like others are pointing out you will need to diversify good to "absorb" the price swings.
A good diversified portfolio will provide steady incomes over time.

We have many POS coins for sale in our OTC thread, and we always provide all help needed to get you going.

Happy staking!

IW
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December 29, 2015, 07:31:19 AM
#17
Yes, PoS can be very profitable and I ve been investing and mining PoS coins for over a year. Much better then PoW, no need for hardware, electricity and similar stuff.

There is one VERY important catch though, you need to select the appropriate coin, not all are the same. Here is a small guide which I have set up about the best way to select a good PoS coin.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/altcoin-staking-the-new-way-to-get-altcoins-and-stay-in-the-game-1088925

Let me know if something s unclear, always glad to help out.

Do you have you any experience with the Nubit, Nushare, Peercoin system of staking, minting, and dividends?  It seems very complicated but it's actually a pretty simple, however, robust system.  If you have any experience with the system please share.
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December 29, 2015, 04:10:35 AM
#16
no, because even the storngest one is facing a heavy loss in its price, it does not matter what interest they offer if after soem time you lose 1/3 of your value, it can be good if you also help your earnign via pos, with treading

otherwise you're only asking for losing money

Not true, there re several coins which are holding and even gaining in price. Cause good PoS coins have great inflation control mechanisms, similar to BTC block halving. This means less supply to the market, so it all comes down to patience.

If u do plan to have quick flip, then yes, most of these coins are not for that kind of people.
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December 29, 2015, 12:08:44 AM
#15
I have experience with pos mining when using Captcoin for staking i have about 35000 capt on my wallet but unfortunately the blockchain is dead,  my capt wallet never syncing again.. And for now nothing i can do with my 35000 captcoin
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December 28, 2015, 07:41:55 PM
#14
Mining profitably is for serious players not hobbyists.   Do somethin else

Proof of stake mining could be a completely different game, you can't assume it would immediately require the same cost and effort to reward as traditional mining.

If you have information that says otherwise, please share it with us...

True but risk of coin price dropping is present as others mentioned.
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December 28, 2015, 07:20:14 AM
#13
Yes, PoS can be very profitable and I ve been investing and mining PoS coins for over a year. Much better then PoW, no need for hardware, electricity and similar stuff.

There is one VERY important catch though, you need to select the appropriate coin, not all are the same. Here is a small guide which I have set up about the best way to select a good PoS coin.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/altcoin-staking-the-new-way-to-get-altcoins-and-stay-in-the-game-1088925

Let me know if something s unclear, always glad to help out.

nice work and thx for that link. I wasnt even interested in this but happened
upon this thread and read your link. Very cool!
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December 28, 2015, 07:12:01 AM
#12
no, because even the storngest one is facing a heavy loss in its price, it does not matter what interest they offer if after soem time you lose 1/3 of your value, it can be good if you also help your earnign via pos, with treading

otherwise you're only asking for losing money
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December 28, 2015, 02:46:32 AM
#11
Yes, PoS can be very profitable and I ve been investing and mining PoS coins for over a year. Much better then PoW, no need for hardware, electricity and similar stuff.

There is one VERY important catch though, you need to select the appropriate coin, not all are the same. Here is a small guide which I have set up about the best way to select a good PoS coin.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/altcoin-staking-the-new-way-to-get-altcoins-and-stay-in-the-game-1088925

Let me know if something s unclear, always glad to help out.
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December 27, 2015, 10:29:17 PM
#10
Mining profitably is for serious players not hobbyists.   Do somethin else

Proof of stake mining could be a completely different game, you can't assume it would immediately require the same cost and effort to reward as traditional mining.

If you have information that says otherwise, please share it with us...
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December 27, 2015, 10:21:20 PM
#9
Mining profitably is for serious players not hobbyists.   Do somethin else
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December 27, 2015, 05:34:25 PM
#8
By "POS" you mean piece of shit mining, yes? That's about all mining is any more unless you're willing to dump millions of dollars/euro/pounds/yen/yuan into an operation that offers the scale big enough to earn a profit.

Ok, kidding aside, proof of stake mining does sound interesting and a great way to combat the 51% threat and potentially make bitcoin mining accessible to "the rest of us" but I couldn't find any info on the web about profitability. Maybe you should give it a shot and then let us know how profitable you are...keep us informed via posts here.
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December 27, 2015, 04:56:48 PM
#7
Can have some profit depending on the coin. Some coins do pay a % of the coins you have and do it fast, but at the same time those coins lose value in markets and you end up having lest total value.

Get informed about coins before, and mostly, you have to have lots of coins to make a decent profit.
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December 27, 2015, 03:45:03 PM
#6
Depends on the coin and the algorithm. I tried to mine, harvest and forge for various POS coins and there were only two which are really worth it if you do not have a big coin stake. NEM and BitcoinDark.
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December 27, 2015, 02:36:23 PM
#5
Yeps this should in the altcoin section
Staking POS can be profitable. However, it is a bit like investing directly in altcoins. It is very risky and it could just be that you won't make ROI whithin an acceptable period.
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December 27, 2015, 01:54:21 PM
#4
Yes this would be better suited for altcoin section. But to put it simply, mining POS coins is like earning interest on the amount of coins you have in your wallet. Interest earned is in the form of new coins, or fractions of coins.
It can be profitable, wouldn't hold my expectations too high though.
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December 27, 2015, 01:36:57 PM
#3
it will be better if you moved it in altcoin section
i think there will a lot of people can answer your question there
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December 27, 2015, 01:34:22 PM
#2
How do u mine a PoS coin ? As I understand, PoS is already mined. If mining happens, it is PoW.
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December 27, 2015, 01:32:04 PM
#1
It is too hard for me to mine bitcoin for many reason such as the price of miner hardware,  the difficulty of bitcoin,  and many others reason,  alternate of this problem is that i have to do mining by staking the pos altcoin,  but there is a problem here because i dont know pos mining is profitable or not,  mah be you all guys here have an exleriences with staking pos coin,  please i need your help!!!
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