Topic: is Russia really supports Philippines and Vietnam against china? (Read 2635 times)

Being friends doesnt mean that you go in a wrong side when one of your friend is in need. I mean im sure russia is not a shit to go to war together with china and let the entire world to be destroyed just because them and china are friends knowing that china is being greedy and uses force and militiry capability to take advantage against smaller countries. China is not respecting asean and also the international law which im quite sure russia is in opposite. Today is not like the past where war was superior everyone has learned for every consequences the war can give.

If my friend since birth is at war with his enemy because he knocked this guy down without reason i will stop them fighting but not going to any sides.

Hoping russia thinks like this.

Russia has no reason to support Philippines against China. China is one of the few friends Russia is having right now.

Maybe someone from russia can comment on this:

http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/96489/20160726/russian-ambassador-china-respect-unclos.htm

In my opinion Russia may or may not support Philippines. Well if they'll support Philippines I guess they'll do that because there's benefits. I also think that Philippines will not go to war againat China since their military power are far inferior than China and China have more manpower from Philippines.

Pollution problem may prevent that. Its wishful thinking from Chinese viewpoint, but if there is not a solution for clean air everybody dies.

yes that is a fact there is no doubt about this. because China is the next rising power of the world and Russia do not like having anothe Super power therefore they are trying how to stop China from becoming next super power.

What for fucking argument?
Check where is Gibraltar.

Yea we are immune to this because who will go to bomb Croatia.It is more chance that they will bomb other country which is bigger and more dangerous for them.My country will not be in any nuclear war.

The entire sea shouldn't be owned by Chinese government. It's like Turkey claiming Mediterranean sea.


America, Russia and China would launch nuclear bombs, Croatia is immune to this?   

My country Croatia was not against China in sea theritory law.Slovenia country was trying with corrupted money to pay law to get our theritory but they were discovered by Croatian spying equipment.Throw nuke tu America is best maybe right now to save Europe from he'll.They don't deserve better.Now AmeRica want srole theritory from China maybe.

China are claiming islands that are even closer to the Philippines than them. The islands and waters they're getting into are even reachable by small boats from Philippines mainland.

Ohh a Free Expert in Chinese Affairs.
Explain about "Limitations" please.

Why You harass Iran not? There is the same, people was going to have 6 children per family.

You are cheap anti Russian troll.

Mister, what for the shit is Your Head?
This Government is Greedy or Generous?
If They are Greedy, why they care about "feeding their ever growing population"?

The "Western" mode of living suck, and it irritate You, that in China is No crisis, and around You are homelesses and closed busunesses.

GTFO Racist Hater.

Now Chinese population is not not growing anymore because of their limitation.I hate a China .They are destroying Europe economy and that i rd allu really make me angry and they are destroying dart with so many gas.I hate China they eat dogs better go and eat that little small dick small tots and small pussy pupils and save dog population.

That's so obvious, Chinese greedy government need more minerals to feed their ever growing population. Things that chinese build on Scarborough island is not a military equipment, it's a tool use to take marine life and mineral resources.

GTFO dude. Samsung is Sud Korean.

Buy 100% Chinese phone, not foregn business in China
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/index.htm


"Made in China" is the perfect sign of quality products.
All Panasonic, Logitech and ASUS are Made in PRC.
Honda produce there "Honda Jazz" - "Honda Fit". a 100% Made in China.

It is  better if Russia support Philippinea o and Vietnam against China because everthing is made in China i dont like China stupid products which can live 1 year and then they die forever.My samsung mobile phone was old 1 year and then suddenly crap he die omg fcking yellow chineses.

That's not a big issue since russia has enough reserves to sustain itself.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15567854

they really dont care about the 9 dash line they are there to get minirals and shit because there country is polluted they want to pollute other place now and alos what they really want was to start a war. building airfields in scarboro shore is the great evidence. when they start the war flying from scarboro shore to other asian country will only took them in just a minute. remeber scarboro shore are at the center of west Philippines Sea.

The 9 dash line really has no basis at all. Even international judge don't know this kind of law that China keep on imposing. The 9 dash line violates a certain law and overclaim a property.

Yeah. They insisting that taiwan is a part of china while taiwan want to be a free a country. They didnt want china because of its dirty government. Because of that claim they make a law about one china law. Hahahha. To obvious that they are greedy. They make a multi billion infrastructure to an island that they only claiming and no legal basis so that they will not surrunder the island easily

Because they know they can get something on it but once the island is already(means no more resources to get), they will abandon it and leave the island dying.

China still claims Taiwan and Tibet. I don't think they give back once they control.

That island that Chinese keep on insisting to claim is full of natural oils and huge number of sea life which means once they owned it, there's a chance that they will drought that island and if nothing more to get they will surely give it to Philippines.

Yes Russia has changed sides after the Philippines won its claim over the Spratlys after the arbitration hearing. But lets hope that war will not occur in the West Philippine Sea. As of now the President is making a move to contact and made a peaceful conversation with the Chinese Government. If it succeeds there will be no more war but if its then a third world war may possibly take place and China will be at the disadvantage as well as the Philippines too.

the tension in the west philippine is going to be worse now because of social media. i hope it will not trigger the war. china must stop bullying small country in asia. there claim has no proof and legal basis

Those Chinese arent too greedy, what you think?. Claiming lands thats too far away from their teritory. I think theres something on that island that no one knows because they still claiming that land even theyre already lose in the case regarding to island dispute.

Even those countries that are quite near in the island doesn't mind to claim that they own that land and this Chinese that is very far on that Island still want to insists that they own the island.

Russia wants to show that they also have what it takes to be a super power and wants to show that they can act like how US do.
Its good to have one reasonable super power that will neutralize conflict but China's president isn't one of those reasonable person. And with that they may never gain respect!

I dont know about that, what i know is russia wont support China if ever WW3 erupt(hope not). One single mistake in negotiation will surely erupt.

It isn't Russia, it's every country in the world against China. If you look at a map, you see clearly how ugly the Chinese government is. There's no logic to say those waters are Chinese. It's one of the few times where Russia and the US are on the same side.

Dreaming about people dying? No. I'm saying it wouldn't be in China's best interest to think it can conquer the world with army.

No no no they lost it all when the controllers or Beijing decided that it was a good idea to make a plant product illegal... Corruptions, criminalization, lost of trust, loss of rationality, disunity ensued. This shit could have been produced directly on the mainland and no import would have been necessary furthermore don't need to be a genius to see how unattractive those products are even more if their prices drop lower than quality tea...


It's Chinese territory dude... Stop the propaganda... For 2000 years no person living in Asia would have contested it...

Harmonious solution would be a gesture to permit an acceptable solution for the fishermen from the sea coats to live from the sea in a sustainable fashion...

But let's go to the core of the issue... Philippines never did the sacrifices of China regarding the one child policy. Your people breed like rabbits, spawn children like eggs, and of course will never be able to leave a sustainable Earth for anyone if not managed from the outside.

So from those harsh words it's simple: shut the fuck up and accept the return to reality or face a population reduction so drastic and harsh that the Philippines people will not need anything from the next thousand year. Why? Your people will be very little.

I hate rapid breeding population wanting always more... You are on an exponential path. Exponential tfrosth, then cliff.

Sorry, you should have adopted rational Christianity aka post enlightenment and more precisely define by if you can't afford chidren don't make some.

Precious Chinese children will not suffer because of rapid breeders, expect ultra violent confrontation if their must be. No nations on earth will be able to sustain a supply chain near China... Impossible... It would be like attacking the us I the golf of Mexico... And you would see what would come next in the event you decimate the actual fleet.

Are You about Missilistic Nuclear War?
Are You Dreaming to survive such event?

China is not prepared for a world war against US/Russia/Nato, they would lose.

Chinese lost a lot of wealth when they got addicted to drugs, become more during communism time, what is your point?

Right but the fact that China refrain from engaging any good negotiation with Philippine it will never be a harmonious as what we think. We can't just simply give our island that's been prove in tribunal that recently happen but at the same time we don't want war that China looks like that's what they want to happen.

Im still hoping China will engage in a negotiation eventhough we're facing currently a cold war.

yeah I think they're supporting Philippines against china. maybe Russia know what really country owned that maritime territory and us is supporting Philippines too . I don't want another world war again its really hard. citizen will suffer if that's happen, another mass killing so many innocent people will going to die that we don't to happen.  lets us pray that will not happen. china is really a bully country we all know that territory is really owned by philippines

On average on the last 2000 years China hold 1/3 of the world wealth... You can see it as reversal to the mean...

China is a bully country. They start building infrastructure in the land that they only claiming. Because they know that they are powerful and their neighbor country will not defy them. They as a superior in asia and they think that he owns whatever their want

Resources they need... Enough said... What ever the us navy will sail where ever they want (no one can oppose then) and the chineses will exploit those waters. The only hope is that it will go smoothly between everyone involved. That this exploitation will done in a sustainable way and that a win win solution can be found with the Philippines...

Russia could be diplomatic intermediary in this case because both China and Philippines appear to think positive about Russia.

CORRECTION: Its not an island. Thats why China is fortifying it to create an "artificial island" . If its an island, the worst is, they can claims 120? NM around it as part of their EEZ. Its only a rock,shoal,reef etc . An island defined as those could sustain life.

Russia would make a tough decision since China and Russia were allies. They do have connection regarding market and any other stuff which China and Russia ties. If russia would support philippines rather than china maybe there would be WW3 since USA EU are involved too. So Russia,USA,EU vs China?  Looks like a Red Alert Game to me... hahah

Well....China wants a piece of Russians east territory also....
I think they want these lands as strategic points not as economy resources

Its difficult for Russia to go anti China at this point of time when its economy is struggling. They need investment as well. USA is not going to invest in Russia.

I salute to those kind of respect and following to international laws. Russia is a powerful country whose also an ally of China but in terms of decision, Russia defends to the right ones and does not tolerate China to succeed. China dont have to reclaim lands especially its to far beyond its territory even though they lose the case theyre still thriving to reclaim that land. Im wondering why china like it so much?

We - RUSSIANs respect international law and we will protect any weak from any kind of aggression....even if aggressive side is our alliance...enough of "Right of Power"....world must be changed

The war that might happen since countries are very much scared wit hthe military weapons owned by China could be in the form of economic warfare. The Chinese will soon drown into that salty waters craving for the resources they need to feed their 1 billion population.

The word about China not honoring the international court's decision is going to make them look like the main villain in the far east.

That's the hard reality that China is trying to take control over Vietnam and Philippines, but Russia gives support as China and Russia were directly opposite to each other.

There is one eternal rule in China, once the army is in motion no one knows how far it will go... Including the leadership in Beijing;-).  Rule 1 never angry a dragon, find harmonious peaceful sustainable beautiful and elegant solution easily reframe by a win-win.

Good news if we have such alliance like Russia, Russia is a big help for us. Not for starting a world ward but for assisting us.

I don't like the concept of having a world war 3 because even though we have big alliance, they won't stake all their military force just to help Philippines they still think on their own fellow countrymen. If WW3 started any side of it is a losing situation for Philippines.

Russia is unlikely to take an anti-China stance in this case. Philippines is one of the most important allies of the United States in South East Asia (along with Japan), and the US-Russia relations are not that warm right now. Moreover, the Chinese-Russian ties have improved after the imposition of Western sanctions over Russia.

We will see this next week.

Yeah, chinese government insisted that they own those islands. It is very obvious that this island is ours that it lies beneath our territory. And I think that the court sentence will side on the Philippines. But, I don't think China will honor this sentence, they don't follow the rules or even honor the United Nations. They are hard headded fools claiming what they want to claim and not considering the laws. I think a war is a solution to teach them a lesson and to lower their pride.

This are only words.
In shortest time will be a court sentence.

China doesn't just act randomly and grab some islands without reasons, these islands are said to have oil to which they've conduct oil exploration before and after they've found out, they tried to claim its theirs. They could come up with something if diplomacy can rule. 

In fact its beneficial for the Philippines to be with China than ally with US.

About what negotiations Are You talking if there is a international court sentence is going out in shorest time (about 4 days)?

Yes is true. They are greedy and bully but its not going to bebeneficial for philippines to go war, it MIGHT be better to just To negotiate with the Chinese to see what has to be agreed for these dispute.

Transnational issue. World war 3 would be much less probable. Given that Russia and China are allies I doubt it will happen.

What "pipelines"?
Show me some Pipeline From Iraq to Germany.

GTFO Clown Expert in Oil Trade

Pipelines...

How Syria have the possibility "to interfere with energy transfer from the Arabian peninsula to Europe"?

Will they place mines in the Mediterranean Sea or hit Jew owned tankers with missiles?

I can't find a quote from Putin on this issue... I read that Russia is arming Vietnam...

One underlying strategy of Russia seems to make and keep their energy customers dependent by all means (Syria to interfere with energy transfer from the Arabian peninsula to Europe - now opposing China extraction in South China Sea).

If the interest of Russia are at depends of others it's not a win-win...

Create islands across USA.

Chinese claims like the nine-dash line is too much. A very overlapping claims affecting many nations. They are invoking the historical claims it seems they want to claims even the Philippines. They are creating an artificial islands to augment their claims. They are greedy and bully.

Who is thinking, that Chinese Popolar Republic will respect not the decision of https://pcacases.com/web/ ??

Its the Chinese that don't want to unite, they don't honor international obligations even when they've participated creating these maritime law.
I don't think Philippines will go war against China. its like cavaliers vs gradeschool midgets.

well im not convince on what putin said. we all know that china and russia has a great alliance so why putin takes side to the enemy of his alliance. im a little bit confuse about that. but i believe in putin word.

What I don't get is why countries has to take sides. Can't all countries just unite and respect how things are things. I don't really get why they are fighting with a land and sea that doesn't belong to anyone. It belongs to the environment an not which coutry is which.

Well, its a good news for me as a filipino. Russia is known a highest rank when it comes from military next to america. Maybe they can help Philippines from stopping the chinese government from claim.our sea. Chinese is continuing the reclamation instead of talking to our government. We won the case from the hague, why chinese not honoring the desicion?

is Russia really supports Philippines and Vietnam against china about the maritime territory conflict.? Russia and china are well know alliance, will Putin statement is through? if its not, i smell a world war 3.