Topic: Is Satoshi Nakamoto Alive ?! (Read 522 times)

I am not sure how exactly you have come to this conclusion.
Satoshi has always tried to remain hidden. When Gavin went to the CIA, then Satoshi instantly stopped and sent this email (tldr: I've moved on to other things.".
Satoshi sent this email on Apr 23, 2011.
Since then, we have no clue about his whereabouts. So, does he really give you the impression of a guy that would show up?



Let's say he does. Let's say he moves his coins and tries to sell them.
Where would he do that? In a CEX?
You know that the authorities will contact the CEX instantly and they will freeze the coins, until they are done with inspecting Satoshi (the real person).

it is good Satoshi stays anonymous, the quest of knowing who the person is, has also prompted people to buy Bitcoin BTC which is a vital speculation strategy used by the creators. Also, there would be countless regulations for blockchain technology if a face is tagged to bitcoin since it was the first ever coin.

I think we would, my hunch is that he's definitely the kind of guy that would definitely show up and will show his presence, he would be expressing his sadness for the loss of his friend Hal, and I think that those bitcoins in those addresses are going to be given back to others like some sort of digital money rain. It's easy to actually hide your identity, and knowing Satoshi and his genius, I think that it's easy for him to forge another identity which he can then use to scour the world wide web without any worries that someone would identify him.

I don't think so too but thing about it this way, he's the richest man in the world and he can decide to probably flood the bitcoin market with those old bitcoins to literally shake the market but the problem is that, he's never going to be able to sell it all at once, would be difficult I think.

I don't see any reason the appearance of satoshi would cause a bear market or how it would have any impact on the bull, majority of investors doesn't even know who or what sataoshi is and probably doesn't care, it would probably be a government thign, who knows what charges they have been keeping against him or why he chose to stay hidden, the only fear I guess people would have is the 1 million billion he has and if he choses to sell might cause a big crash for a while and it could start a whole uproar and cause investors to start to withdraw  their money, I guess it's quite possible, but any way he coudl still stay in hiding and sell some bitcoin and at same time it would still have that impact on the market.

It doea actually. If his indeed alive and can access his wallet dont you think its not gonna make a bubble? Of course people will get panic that a possibility Satoshi can dumped his bitcoin share could be a tragic blow to market and possibly whole financial sector. But lets hope that if his indeed able to touch his wallet he wont do anything that ruins its current state.

I kind of view this in the opposite side from your view, there may be serious panic selling of BTC in the short term because if people suddenly start to see selling of Bitcoin on the address that is linked to Satoshi, It would seem like Satoshi got vital information and that's reason to sell, especially now that the bull market is around the corner, even me I will be curious to know , having known that we are about creating a new ATH. A lot of investors would be wondering why the address is selling despite the fact that Satoshi doesn't control or manipulate the price of Bitcoin.

Anything related to Satoshi Nakamoto will always be a long debate that will never be resolved at any time.
The true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is still unknown, and there will always be a lot of speculation if there are similar or related questions to Satoshi Nakamoto regarding who he really is.
And as you said, Satoshi Nakamoto's real identity cannot be ascertained, whether he was alone, in a group or something else and it is also unclear whether he or they are still alive or not and no one knows it accurately.

Bitcoin has proven it's genuineness over years to people without it's existence. So if he decides to make its identity known, I don't think Knowing he's identity can have any significant effect on the coin or it's investor

I can't be sure of one of them because maybe I could guess wrong. No one knows for sure whether Satoshi was one person or a group - while his identity is top secret, you are right that several people have claimed to be Satoshi, but all of them are fake.

He may be alive or dead - also they are still there even though none of them revealed his identity ^{[if it was a group].} I don't know - I'm not going to make a big deal out of it because the reality is that a lot of people don't want him back because they're afraid of the assets he has in wallets.

I don’t even think of it as a way of burning. I don’t believe that was the user’s intention. I think it just has to do with gratitude that they’ve made so much so they just wanted to send the money there even if they know it could be a waste. People are crazy; Elon sent a car to float in space just because he could afford it. What if this user has made Billions of dollars and did it just because they could? I’m only thinking though.

For many years, this question has been asked constantly in the forum and on social media: Is Satoshi alive? Some believe Satoshi is alive, while many people have claimed to be the real Satoshi for various reasons. Others believe Satoshi is dead because he disappeared for many years after creating Bitcoin. It is worth noting that no one can answer this question because Satoshi did not reveal his real identity and remains anonymous.

Knowing this doesn't matter much. What he did was an ideal security precaution to protect him from governments and central authorities and is one of the reasons for the success of the decentralized Bitcoin system, which countries and regimes are trying to suppress and stop. Still, it continued against their will and gained widespread adoption and reliability. Maybe things would have been much worse if Satoshi had been around us and his identity had been known.

What if also coins are moved out from other wallets to the Genesis wallet or any other wallets rumoured to belong to Satoshi? What do you think will happen to the price of Bitcoin? It will spike, right? Well, I would think that if coins begin to get sold from these wallets now that we're in a bull run it won't cause much panic. People will hardly notice it. Panic might come if it were done in the bear season but definitely not now.

I think "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a generation, It's not the real name.Nobody knows who and where live or dead!

Very strange indeed and it can only give the idea that the sender might have access to withdraw the coin in the future. But all these are just mere speculations as there's no evidence to back it up.

But BTC is not a random altcoin like Shiba or Bonk whose success depends on how many coins burnt. BTC has a way of burning itself considering the amount of lost BTC.

It is very likely that Satoshi is dead and no one will everly withdraw from that address or still Satoshi himself has forget the details to access the address.

Maybe the donator had also donated to the above mentioned names.

Not that this is excused by any means. Donating to an address that you know is highly unlikely to ever move its coins is kind of strange. But, I understand that the reason behind this move is:
(a) support the whole network by "burning" some coins.
(b) support satoshi by donating him some of my coins.
Yet, again, the amount is so big, that it could be donated to some charity or open-source development projects.
My humble opinion.

It will be terrific if Satoshi Nakamoto came online and said that he wants to sell all his Bitcoins, it will create so much FUD that Bitcoin could crash really badly. But that’s just imagination because even if he were to come back, I don’t believe he will come to destroy what he built. If on the other hand, he gave a speech or wrote an article on the visions he has for Bitcoin, it will give investors hope to even invest more.

I think the $1.2 Million was just someone trying to say “thank you for building Bitcoin, I have make just too much money from it”

It is a different condition when you compare to Vitalik Buterin. When people know him as the creator of Ethereum, people won't be so surprised because there is nothing to exaggerate. But when people know Satoshi, it will be shocking the world. The story and the role of Satoshi in crypto industry, it makes him to have a special value. Moreover, people doubt he may be caught by the government and the future of crypto will be doubtful if we know who Satoshi is.

When we stop discussing about Satoshi's identity, it also won't change anything. But we won't waste our energy and efforts anymore if we stop discussing about him. However, everyone has the right to discuss anything, including about Satoshi.

Yes, we only waste time and efforts. It is almost impossible to reveal the identity of Satoshi. Satoshi knows well how to hide his identity, an average people like us won't have the chance to know it.

I don't see a reason why we would have a bear market if Satoshi comes back and starts moving his coins from any of the addresses you mentioned, and I don't see any reason for him to do that anyway, he can't risk his life by coming back and letting the world know that he is alive because he wouldn't be left alone if he does that. Who knows? He might be alive, watching everything, using Bitcoin not using these marked addresses.
I'm pretty sure that he would never reveal his identity or let the world know that he is alive even if he is because he knows it can become a life threat to him considering how many people, including governments, hate him.

How do we know if a person who is antonymous is alive or not, all that we care now is the bitcoin he made and had left for us to use in ither to be completely free and decentralized from the government authority over our finances, i don't see any reason why i should be more concerned about Satoshi himself than the bitcoin he intended on us, what must always be alive is bitcoin and the bitcoin network.

About last week I did a thorough research about satoshi, I came across his last post on the forum, the history of bitcoin and the forum also about their respective purposes.
I really loved to hear about his presence for he needs to be awarded for his invention. His invention is really a feat. Imagine all of us now using bitcoin, learning trading, investing in what the author might be alive or dead. That feeling of knowing him would have been wonderful.
Over the years bitcoin had created:
-Employment
-Wealth
-Investment
-Means of payment
.Income and lots more
It has mean different things to different people. Most of us are surviving to due to its practice and adoption. we are able to pay bills carry out different projects. We been able to raise funds for re-occurring and capital needs.
We all just need to respect the almighty founder.

Could be, could be not as well.
I'd rather keep myself private if I'm Satoshi though.

Yes.  I bet we would.

I shortly mentioned my opinion on this only a few days ago.  If Satoshi would come back AND reveal their identity Bitcoin would be bearish for a while in my opinion.

Satoshi Nakamoto is a very neutral identity.  We know not much about them.  If they come out and reveal themselves, the best scenario would be some body who is charismatic and almost impossible to suspect of any thing.  But how lucky could we get to have their identity revealed in the BEST way possible?

The reality would be much different.  Satoshi is probably politically oriented too.  That would be a problem.  If they were from Russia, it would be yet another problem.  If they would be from the United States hinting to have a some what relation to a Three Letter Agency, that would be yet another problem.  And so on.  And so forth.

Do not hope for this to ever happen.  I REALLY doubt it would because revealing themselves would affect their personal safety as well.  Most big Governments would offer BIG money to influence things.  It is true that Satoshi does not have a direct influence over Bitcoin but it is also true that people are kind of foolish and do not care how Decentralized Bitcoin is if there is a charismatic person who hypes every body up.  Such as Justin Sun, Vitalik, you name them.

So far there have been no signs or opening of the curtain that could reveal Satoshi Nakamoto's true identity, his hiding is still very perfect even though many parties are trying to dig up his identity. From the start he chose to remain anonymous, My assumption is that he will never return or show his true identity, if that happens, it will be a failure for him.
The question of who Satoshi Nakamoto really was and why he finally disappeared as if he had been swallowed by the earth after creating something big that could be the forerunner of a future transaction system still crosses the minds of individuals, governments and groups who really want to know his identity. If someone openly claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, this confession is very difficult to accept widely, even though the person making the confession was the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

Perhaps many major events will occur as a result of the appearance of this very mysterious figure, including a very significant surge in Bitcoin. But if you look at the price of Bitcoin traded today, it looks like Satoshi will still choose to be anonymous because without having to show his identity to the public, Bitcoin is still able to soar high.

It doesn't change anything. Do you see any strong impact happen to Ethereum when people know who is the creator of that coin? Nothing right so maybe the same thing will happen to Bitcoin and people will just continue to do their thing especially on investment.

The only changes will happen there is people will stop discussing any related to his identity and people will just continue to speculate about its future.

Maybe best for you not to think deeply about his identity since you can't get any accurate answer with that since up by now people are still speculating about him and there's so many threads the same like this created because people are just curious about him.

Remember that movie series 'Vicking, in the last episode when the lead act Ragna, who had been gone for a long time and his family and people had moved on, suddenly showed up, their expressions were like, "why did you come back". So Satoshi Nakamoto's, anonymity has become his identity, if he were to show up now, I doubt that he'll get that heroic welcome, because since he or them created Bitcoin and disappeared, we've moved on with Bitcoin, and we're thankful to him for giving us this decentralized digital asset, that we,re hoping that it's value will outlive us, as it's doing very fine without Satoshi, ever since he exited the scene.

Although it has been debated ad nauseam, it is reasonable to keep talking about him in the forum he created. To me, these threads are homages to our founder and keep the newbies informed about facts that we may take for granted, but which are new for the youngest, for example.

Yes, they could use the search bar instead, but we both know that this won't happen. So seeing that this topic remains topical is a good sign of the good health of the myth, and not a reason to complain.

If Satoshi Nakamoto did not move his coins, no reason for the market to be bearish.

You did not know about Bitcoin distributions. There are many Bitcoin addresses with more than 100 bitcoins. Satoshi Nakamoto is not the only Bitcoin holders with 100+ bitcoin in a single wallet/ address.
Top 100 Richest Bitcoin addresses.
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

Addresses with Balance > 100 BTC
https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/addresses-greater-than-100-btc/

I think if sathosi wanna come back. He would have revealed himself since. Although I don't see him as revealing him self to cause any bear market because people will tend to buy all his Bitcoin these days.

Moreover the BTCs that are being sent to his address seems to be a form of gratitude as you've said. But is that not also like burning Bitcoin?

Looking at it same way you illustrated above in connection to what is happening in Nigeria. Even if Satoshi wasn't anonymous, there's also nothing the government will do to harm bitcoin because it is very much decentralized. The nature of bitcoin is as such that Satoshi himself even if still working on bitcoin will not independently make decisions. There much be consensus. Even if the government arrests him and force him to bring bitcoin down, he would not be able to do same without the agreement of others. The worse scenario would have been many hard forks and disruption of the community. The worse they would have done is to tax him hugely which is more of an individual issue than bitcoin issues.

Well i don't still doubt if Satoshi is not active with us currently in this forum and any other place just reading the news and seeing people killing themselves to say they are Satoshi while they are not. If you look strongly today you would noticed that the solidity of bitcoin foundation today and currently was as a results of Satoshi remaining unknown otherwise bitcoin could have been threaten by now just as what is happening to some of the centralized coin and exchange now for example, Binance is facing some difficulty in my country after haven detained their staff to reveal some transaction carried out by my country users.
This alone could have been threat to bitcoin progression

Well, knowing if satosh Nakamoto is alive, it’s not really matter or something that is compulsory you should know.
What I think is important is knowing the reason why you are here following the rules the guidelines, exploring lines, no more on how to write learn how to create books articles, you can type your question actually on Google and see what they tell you because nobody can answer that straightly.
. It’s not really bad question you don’t know so you ask the question which is right someone might know but maybe I don’t really have an idea. I’m actually I’m a newbie

Craig Wright is far fro being the person of Satoshi and in his attempt to prove anything close to that has failed to yield any convincing evidence to support that claim, and if we should go along with Bitcoin ideology,  Craig is far from exhibiting any of the characteristics of bitcoin ideology as a way of proving that he has any connection to Bitcoin.
I am sure he already knows that,  and when it comes to Satoshi's real identity or if he is alive or not, that doesn't come out clear to almost all of us but then since Bitcoin is all about aninymiusity and privacy, he satoshi is playing the card well and on point to have gone exile and remained at that all this while.

If you are talking about the impact of crypto world to the global industry if Satoshi Nakamoto is alive and comes out to the public then I would say that it would not have much of an impact since other industries have their focuses and goals to reach. Satoshi Nakamoto is neither related to these industries' important matters to attend to.  But if we are talking about the impact of Satoshi Nakamoto going public to the cryptocurrency industry then I can say that the sudden appearance of the creator of Bitcoin will temporarily boost the market.  We might experience a sudden spike in the Bitcoin price which might last for some time until the market is getting used to Satoshi's presence.  The usual law of diminishing return.

There might be lots of huge events that involve Satoshi Nakamoto and probably he will be invited to the mass media for a forum or interview.  By this time, the spread of Bitcoin information will leap to a new height and the pro-Bitcoin government might invite Satoshi for a conference.

Anyway, all these changes are temporary since the market will eventually goe back to its normal move, so we might expect a huge correction after the huge hype created by the appearance of Satoshi Nakamoto.

If Satoshi comes online, it's going to spark a lot controversies and I think US will be focus on finding out who is real Satoshi than the investigations they are doing right now. I don't think Satoshi would want to compromise Bitcoin with too much talk and will appear with his means of identification. He might be around us or even in the Forum and nobody will ever know, that's the advantage you get been a private person due to good privacy.


If Satoshi was going to move this wallet, he would have done so since. What I need you to know is that, these wallet you see that people are wasting time on waiting for Satoshi to move these Bitcoins from their respective address might remain there forever. Satoshi might have another Bitcoin in his wallet sitting somewhere in even the latest segwit and nobody will know nothing, he create Bitcoin which is censorship resistance and freedom, he should know better how to move his wealth in Bitcoin without anyone knowing. So relax.

I thought I have understood many things about bitcoin, but after an unknown sent bitcoin worth over 1 million dollars to the genesis address, I became more confused about bitcoin and feel there's conspiracy somewhere.
I asked myself these two questions;

• Could this be Craig Wright proving he is Satoshi
• Or some people are somewhere maybe Satoshi, using the BTC in Satoshi address as reserves to avoid hijack and manipulation of the bitcoin network

Hmmm.

I have been seeing a lot of talk online that Satoshi is not dead but he's alive. That could never stop the price of Bitcoin going bull. We would be surprised that there assumptions might last for a while but not for long. It has been very long that many people had been admitting that they are Satoshi Nakamoto but through findings, it was discovered that they arf just trying to gain popularity so the media will carry them and make them the talk of the town.

 These are just mere claims and I don't think even though Satoshi is alive, he's going to do what will make people to find out that he's Satoshi. I know after a while many of the talks will die off and the price of Bitcoin will still keeps going bull..

To be honest no one knows that either Satoshi is alive or not but most of us believe that he is still alive. Some people think that Hal Finney was Satoshi Nakamoto and they also believe that Satoshi is no more. But none of those can prove that really that Hal was Satoshi.

In actual, Satoshi left Bitcoin community because his main idea behind creation of Bitcoin was to create something that would allow humans to transfer money without relying on centralized entities. Satoshi is our hero and even always remain our hero.

He left Bitcoin community intentionally and I'm very sure that he won't reappear again. He is just anonymous and he will remain anonymous forever.

On one side of the pole, I can agree with you that I should not impact our lives even if Stoshi is alive or continuously showing activity with the wallets he'd used previously. At the same time, the fear of the flow of a massive Bitcoin in the market can cause a huge fud. So haha in psychology it has something to do with that still Stoshi owns a massive amount of Bitcoins and if he's alive there can be a possible turning point in the current or any future trend of the market.

Anyway.. May Stosshi live long and be a Bitcoiner nothing to worry about if he's alive haha there is a possibility to buy Bitcoin at a low haha, I'm waiting for such an Opportunity to grab Bitcoin in cheap to make some generational savings as well.

I agree with the quote below, it does matter an enormous amount if Satoshi starts to sell, and hopefully the effects will not last too long.

Satoshi Nakamoto is very unlikely to still be alive IMO. Intelligence services of some big countries like USA, Russia or China would have already found him if he is not protected by one of them at least. In addition, he would have left some legacy message to Bitcoin users and humanity IMO and send his Bitcoins to some charity fundation or a poor country if he doesn't want to use them. Hal Finney had been very badly ill before dying why he did nothing for him if he's not himself Satoshi?

Okay, now I am overwhelmed by the number of posts which are being posted on this forum related to Satoshi Nakamoto. I could clearly understand why the OG members do not reply or respond to these threads as they are already done explaining similar stuff again and again. OP, doesn't matter if Satoshi is even alive or not. That clearly doesn't impact your life. What he/they built for all of us is what matters i.e. Bitcoin.

yes of course, maybe he is behind the scenes now, he will appear when the price of bitcoin is 1 million dollars lol. but it doesn't matter if he's still alive or not, if he doesn't sell his 1 million bitcoins that's more than enough

There will be a temporary massive panic in the BTC market if/when Satoshi starts to sell his huge pile of virgin coins. This will present a great opportunity for people with the guts to go against the crowd. The damage could be more severe and long-lasting if it combined with bad news related to the on-going post-FTX drama, and more countries "banning BTC", etc. Our bear markets get pretty predictable after a while, but the FTX hangover is real and not over with yet.

ps. When the market is hot and Bullish it is easy to say "to the moon!", remember to sell some, "hodling" 100% is for brainless idiots IMO.

This address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa is indeed the address that received the first 50 bitcoins that were mined.

Today this address has ~8,500 UTXOs. Most of them are dust.

If Satoshi returned, chances are we wouldn't know   Satoshi has managed to stay perfectly hidden. Nowadays, staying hidden in the digital world seems almost infeasible, but yet, Satoshi approached (unless proven differently), the perfect anonymity.

I highly doubt that Satoshi would ever move his coins. The real person behind Satoshi must be owning bitcoins in other addresses that we are not aware of. Satoshi is a digital persona, linked with the initial blocks that were mined. But, the real person behind Satoshi could be anyone and, of course, they must have other coins somewhere. Having said that, I believe that Satoshi is just using bitcoin like everyone of us.

I'm curious why you think the world knowing the identity of Satoshi will cause a bear market?

Satoshi being dead or alive doesn't matter because he has already fulfilled his purpose in the invention of Bitcoin, it does not matter if his actual identity is known to the world rather is the fact that he solved a world problem even against the government and won.

Giving Tribute to our heroes is what we as humans do and Satoshi with likes of Hal Finney are no exception.
The world knowing Satoshi does not really matters in the long run because we all will be history and Bitcoin will still remain.

What do u think would be the Impact of Crypto world if  Satoshi Nakamoto is Alive and come out on Public ?
would we have a strong Bear market ?!

Some of these addresses especially the genesis address, hold more than the 50 BTC mining reward as some Bitcoin users occasionally send BTC to addresses belonging to Satoshi as a tribute.

As in January of 2024 an unknown user sent 26.9 BTC valued at about $1.2 million at the time of the transaction, to the address Satoshi used to receive the first ever Bitcoin block reward. This transaction brought the holdings of the genesis address to almost 100 BTC.

Address                     Balance   Notes
1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa   99.69 BTC   Genesis address
12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S   18.43 BTC   Address used by Satoshi to send the first user-to-user Bitcoin transaction to Hal Finney
12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX   51.35 BTC   n/a
1HLoD9E4SDFFPDiYfNYnkBLQ85Y51J3Zb1   50.07 BTC   n/a
1FvzCLoTPGANNjWoUo6jUGuAG3wg1w4YjR   50 BTC   n/a
15ubicBBWFnvoZLT7GiU2qxjRaKJPdkDMG   50.06 BTC   n/a
1JfbZRwdDHKZmuiZgYArJZhcuuzuw2HuMu   50 BTC   n/a
1GkQmKAmHtNfnD3LHhTkewJxKHVSta4m2a 50 BTC   n/a
16LoW7y83wtawMg5XmT4M3Q7EdjjUmenjM 50.02 BTC n/a
1J6PYEzr4CUoGbnXrELyHszoTSz3wCsCaj   50 BTC   n/a