Topic: Is Satoshi Nakamoto's networth ever being rated? (Read 273 times)
It could also be that Satoshi Nakamoto has no bitcoins at all in his possession. Maybe he decided to destroy all private keys of all the blocks he mined after he decided to vanish from his project. Problem is, you can't prove that no key exists anymore. I assume no-one would believe him, especially criminals. It's his life insurance to stay anonymous. This should be respected, no matter what!
There is no point trying to know his net worth because someone who chose to be anonymous, will be very hard for you to know his net worth. You will need to know him physically first before talking about his net worth. Since Satoshi Nakamoto has decided to keep his indetity hidden, I don't see enough reason to why I shouldn't be bordering my self about that. What I just know about his monetary aspect is that he has some bitcoin in his possession.
Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney).
Jameson Lopp wrote that Hal Finney was not Satoshi Nakamoto with some of his analyses to prove it.
When Satoshi announced the first release of the software, I grabbed it right away. I think I was the first person besides Satoshi to run bitcoin. I mined block 70-something, and I was the recipient of the first bitcoin transaction, when Satoshi sent ten coins to me as a test. I carried on an email conversation with Satoshi over the next few days, mostly me reporting bugs and him fixing them.
Satoshi Nakamoto is not only early Bitcoin miner, Hal Finney is one of them.Jameson Lopp wrote that Hal Finney was not Satoshi Nakamoto with some of his analyses to prove it.
There's this site http://satoshiblocks.info/ which identifies a miner called "Patoshi" who likely was Satoshi him/her/themselves. It's quite interesting to read the whole story and how the attribution was done. It's quite technical though and needs some deeper understanding of Bitcoin mining details.
If the attribution of blocks to the miner "Patoshi" is more or less correct and if we assume it's actually Satoshi Nakamoto then this miner mined somewhere in the ballpark of 21954 blocks, times 50BTC block subsidy that's roughly 1.1 million BTC. Only a few of those BTC ever moved (Hal Finney got some directly from Satoshi's block #9 e.g.).
Can you call this Satoshi's fortune? Well, it depends. Personally, I don't expect any of those roughly a million+ BTC to ever move again. Satoshi Nakamoto will not resurface on its own and I hope for him/her/they to remain anonymous forever. This is the way.
P.S.
My Patoshi blocks watch-only wallet gives me the following balance as of today (it's not entirely correct as very few blocks are likely wrongly attributed; they've been spent at times and in a manner which doesn't quite match so far observed behavior of the miner "Patoshi"):
If the attribution of blocks to the miner "Patoshi" is more or less correct and if we assume it's actually Satoshi Nakamoto then this miner mined somewhere in the ballpark of 21954 blocks, times 50BTC block subsidy that's roughly 1.1 million BTC. Only a few of those BTC ever moved (Hal Finney got some directly from Satoshi's block #9 e.g.).
Can you call this Satoshi's fortune? Well, it depends. Personally, I don't expect any of those roughly a million+ BTC to ever move again. Satoshi Nakamoto will not resurface on its own and I hope for him/her/they to remain anonymous forever. This is the way.
P.S.
My Patoshi blocks watch-only wallet gives me the following balance as of today (it's not entirely correct as very few blocks are likely wrongly attributed; they've been spent at times and in a manner which doesn't quite match so far observed behavior of the miner "Patoshi"):
Code:
time bitcoin-cli -rpcclienttimeout=0 getbalance
1096252.00539449
real 6m34.653s
user 0m0.003s
sys 0m0.003s
If ever we found out how many Bitcoin that Satoshi Nakamoto owns then we can estimate the net worth but as others have explained where no one knows how many Bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto have and also his identity so that we can add the other net worth if there's another so, the answer to your questions is stil not known. I'd rather focus on different topic instead of this one because no one will be able to answer your questions unless Satoshi Nakamoto publicize himself then we will be able to do it.
It is difficult to know Satoshi's bitcoin worth because he has numerous addresses and he/they are anonymous as you can tell if he's just one person or they're many because for me, with the growth that this digital currency have recorded since it's invention means that it was well planned and it's not just one person that brought up the idea. Apart from Satoshi Nakamoto, I think it would be very difficult to know many Bitcoin investors hodling or worth because a lot of them have so many wallets of which all cannot vibe traceable.
We do not know how much Bitcoin Satoshi owns and whether he will spend it or not, so we cannot answer this question. All talk about Satoshi is speculation because we do not really know whether he is alive or not, but inevitably his appearance will bring about a major change in the direction of Bitcoin.
Everyone talks about bitcoin that Satoshi owns, but I see the greatest impact on the extent to which Bitcoin will be decentralized if Satoshi exists, meaning can s/he/they convince all the full nodes of the necessity of making the block size 16 MB?
Everyone talks about bitcoin that Satoshi owns, but I see the greatest impact on the extent to which Bitcoin will be decentralized if Satoshi exists, meaning can s/he/they convince all the full nodes of the necessity of making the block size 16 MB?
I've gone through your contributions and it is likely not to have made any changes towards by curiosities of knowing about Satoshi Nakamoto and his networth. The fact of his anonymities has blindfolded his traces which has it impossible of compiling of having access to his assets in order to rate his worths. It's Indeed baffling and this has got me to just concluded that Satoshi Nakamoto as may had been on speculations doesn't exist. He's not a software and I'm of the scientist believes that what claims to exist and can't be proven doesn't exist his claimed existence doesn't have a place/point of contact.
Everything is mystery about him since we can't really say any accurate and people just speculate but they can't find any exact tracks that can point out if he's a real person or not. Maybe we should respect if people behind bitcoin want to be anonymous forever since maybe he just want to remain like that so people or any legal entities can't disturb him. Expect to many speculation will arise since as for sure there will be another people will talk about this questions.
So we can expect to get the same answer especially if Satoshi will remain to be anonymous to anyone. Best to focus on bitcoin since this is give more value on our time rather than talking about those speculative thoughts.
I've gone through your contributions and it is likely not to have made any changes towards by curiosities of knowing about Satoshi Nakamoto and his networth. The fact of his anonymities has blindfolded his traces which has it impossible of compiling of having access to his assets in order to rate his worths. It's Indeed baffling and this has got me to just concluded that Satoshi Nakamoto as may had been on speculations doesn't exist. He's not a software and I'm of the scientist believes that what claims to exist and can't be proven doesn't exist his claimed existence doesn't have a place/point of contact.
I wouldn't worry myself about the net worth of Satoshi Nakamoto, or whether it's an individual or a group, or why he choose to remain anonymous, I'm sure that he has a good reason for his choice. the important thing is that he, she or them was able to make a great impact in the world by creating something that has changed the naretive of transactions and investments, and it's adding value to people's finances everyday. I guess his anonymity will have to do with the privacy that comes with Bitcoin transactions, where the identity of a holder is not known, just like our identities in this forum.
Since his initial appearance using the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, until today no one has been able to find his true identity. He is still anonymous, it is very difficult to audit or verify his overall net worth. What we know is that he still has Bitcoin in his Wallet, the First Bitcoin address is claimed to be his.
There may be several other wallets in his possession that are not known to the public and several other assets besides Bitcoin such as houses, cash and other properties. As long as his identity has not been revealed to the public, it is very difficult to identify his net worth.
There may be several other wallets in his possession that are not known to the public and several other assets besides Bitcoin such as houses, cash and other properties. As long as his identity has not been revealed to the public, it is very difficult to identify his net worth.
So I ask, is Satoshi Nakamoto who is the inventor of this bitcoin technology richer that those populated world influential richest investors who still invests in his investment technology platform (bitcoin)?
I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
Or does the sake of his bitcoin anonymity affect all ramifications of his life to stay anonymous?
Well theres people who are still richer than him. Plus we cant confirm either that bitcoin he have considered valuable since he never access his fund since then worse case is his dead already so those coins are also not included in the supply unless someone can access his fund and started unloading it. Once that balance started to move either him or anyone who have access on his wallet there will be a lot of chaos or hearsays. I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
Or does the sake of his bitcoin anonymity affect all ramifications of his life to stay anonymous?
How you rate the net worth of someone you don't even know, it doesn't work that way. Any ratings you give would be inaccurate as your most likely going to do your ratings based on what ever wallet the figure has been associated with before which wouldn't be all the figure has fit as possibly, there would be wallets that wasn't disclosed to the public and those too belongs to the figure.
Again, net worth isn't restricted to Bitcoin hodlings alone. There are very much properties, businesses and other life properties/belongings to be considered in this context.
Still, it doesn't do you any good knowing either.
Again, net worth isn't restricted to Bitcoin hodlings alone. There are very much properties, businesses and other life properties/belongings to be considered in this context.
Still, it doesn't do you any good knowing either.
Greetings house. I have been asking myself this question without an answer so I brought it up here to hear your contributions.
Bitcoin is a fast if not even the most growing online investments in the globe with a Total supply of 21 Millions of the Bitcoin which has been a trend in a global massive adoptions.
Now most of the world richest investors are investing in the bitcoin with an aim to make more money in addy to their financial portfolios.
So I ask, is Satoshi Nakamoto who is the inventor of this bitcoin technology richer that those populated world influential richest investors who still invests in his investment technology platform (bitcoin)?
I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
Or does the sake of his bitcoin anonymity affect all ramifications of his life to stay anonymous?
Before you ask this question, maybe you should have asked the question of whether the world knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto?Bitcoin is a fast if not even the most growing online investments in the globe with a Total supply of 21 Millions of the Bitcoin which has been a trend in a global massive adoptions.
Now most of the world richest investors are investing in the bitcoin with an aim to make more money in addy to their financial portfolios.
So I ask, is Satoshi Nakamoto who is the inventor of this bitcoin technology richer that those populated world influential richest investors who still invests in his investment technology platform (bitcoin)?
I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
Or does the sake of his bitcoin anonymity affect all ramifications of his life to stay anonymous?
We need to ask questions based on there relevant not just admitting something that is not in existence.
Even the government has tried somw many ways to unveil who Satoshi was but till not, there is no answer to such question and everything is becoming a misery we need to forget about so we don't create unnecessary pressure.
So now asking things like these are completely waste of time with most chances we will never know about this all as well because now it's almost more than one decade and all things are going without him smoothly and these things will be gone for long time with latest technology will also join, and many developments will be happened but no one will be able to know about this all.
Greetings house. I have been asking myself this question without an answer so I brought it up here to hear your contributions.
Bitcoin is a fast if not even the most growing online investments in the globe with a Total supply of 21 Millions of the Bitcoin which has been a trend in a global massive adoptions.
Now most of the world richest investors are investing in the bitcoin with an aim to make more money in addy to their financial portfolios.
So I ask, is Satoshi Nakamoto who is the inventor of this bitcoin technology richer that those populated world influential richest investors who still invests in his investment technology platform (bitcoin)?
I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
Or does the sake of his bitcoin anonymity affect all ramifications of his life to stay anonymous?
Before you ask this question, maybe you should have asked the question of whether the world knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto?Bitcoin is a fast if not even the most growing online investments in the globe with a Total supply of 21 Millions of the Bitcoin which has been a trend in a global massive adoptions.
Now most of the world richest investors are investing in the bitcoin with an aim to make more money in addy to their financial portfolios.
So I ask, is Satoshi Nakamoto who is the inventor of this bitcoin technology richer that those populated world influential richest investors who still invests in his investment technology platform (bitcoin)?
I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
Or does the sake of his bitcoin anonymity affect all ramifications of his life to stay anonymous?
We need to ask questions based on there relevant not just admitting something that is not in existence.
Even the government has tried somw many ways to unveil who Satoshi was but till not, there is no answer to such question and everything is becoming a misery we need to forget about so we don't create unnecessary pressure.
So I ask, is Satoshi Nakamoto who is the inventor of this bitcoin technology richer that those populated world influential richest investors who still invests in his investment technology platform (bitcoin)?
I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
It seems you just haven't heard of it.
Satoshi's Bitcoin assets - or at least what we think belongs to him because we can't clearly say it - are currently around USD 50 billion. Due to the strong price fluctuations, the assets move accordingly. Forbes even lists Satoshi as one of the richest people in the world. Here is an article from 5 days ago that deals with exactly this topic.
https://news.bitcoin.com/satoshi-nakamotos-growing-fortune-nears-entry-into-worlds-top-25-richest-individuals/
Satoshi Nakamoto's identity remains unknown, and there is no verified information about his/her net worth. While there have been attempts to uncover his/her identity, none have been conclusively proven. It's unclear whether he/she holds a significant amount of Bitcoin or has sold any over the years. In the absence of verified information, any claims about his/her net worth are speculative. The anonymity surrounding him/her has certainly contributed to the lack of concrete details about his/her financial status.
It is clear that Satoshi have not sold much of his coins because bitcoin transactions are public. So, all the addresses that belong to Satoshi are just public. But we need to say is that since the identity of Satoshi is not known, he could have other sources of income which can not be known since his identity is not known.It is high time we acknowledge that Satoshi is not known and can never be known.
Just to reiterate what most have already mentioned, it can be challenging to know the exact net worth of Satoshi given that his identity is completely unknown. No one really knows who or what he/she is- he may be a part of an organization; or even just a single person; or a group of people.
While it may be possible to get a glimpse on the amount of BTCs he has given that you can check the addresses of his wallet and the transactions that he made, I do think it is futile to do so.
Satoshi Nakamoto, up until this day, is one of the greatest mysteries that we have yet to discover. Everyone is curious about his identity- perhaps he intentionally did concealed his whereabouts for his safety, etc.
While it may be possible to get a glimpse on the amount of BTCs he has given that you can check the addresses of his wallet and the transactions that he made, I do think it is futile to do so.
Satoshi Nakamoto, up until this day, is one of the greatest mysteries that we have yet to discover. Everyone is curious about his identity- perhaps he intentionally did concealed his whereabouts for his safety, etc.
Another point of consideration is how easy or possible is it to trace the entire holding capacity of someone whose wallet is not completely identified, himself is also pseudonymous, so tell me what are you going after to know with these, knowing it also does not make sense to the people because they are not yet fully convinced that bitcoin or cryptocurrency is not a means of financial fraud, that is part of the reasons why many countries are yet yo accept the adoption of bitcoin as a legal tender, also if Satoshi happened to be among the richest on earth, what do you think others will say, that he is using that as an advantage over himself to accumulate more wealth or what.
Now most of the world richest investors are investing in the bitcoin with an aim to make more money in addy to their financial portfolios.
not many of the richest people in the world have invested in bitcoin, because most of the richest people think that bitcoin is still a speculative asset that is not very stable, so they choose to avoid investing in these assets.
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So I ask, is Satoshi Nakamoto who is the inventor of this bitcoin technology richer that those populated world influential richest investors who still invests in his investment technology platform (bitcoin)?
we cannot calculate how much wealth satoshi nakamoto has to this day. since his identity is unknown, how could anyone estimate his wealth. so we cannot conclude how much wealth he has compared to these rich people.
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I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
Or does the sake of his bitcoin anonymity affect all ramifications of his life to stay anonymous?
Or does the sake of his bitcoin anonymity affect all ramifications of his life to stay anonymous?
I guess, only a few of Satoshi's wallets are known and the rest of them are still unknow. I don't know if all of his wallets are known or not. Another reason is, that all of his coins are not in active circulation. All of his known wallets are inactive at this moment. He did not move a single satoshi since he disappeared. This could be a reason why people do not discuss Satoshi's net worth. Another fact is, we don't know if it's he or they. It could be that Satoshi is a group of people. Or maybe a person. But, I always thought this is one person. It's tough for a team to remain anonymous. But it's very much possible for a person.
Satoshi Nakamoto's identity remains unknown, and there is no verified information about his/her net worth. While there have been attempts to uncover his/her identity, none have been conclusively proven. It's unclear whether he/she holds a significant amount of Bitcoin or has sold any over the years. In the absence of verified information, any claims about his/her net worth are speculative. The anonymity surrounding him/her has certainly contributed to the lack of concrete details about his/her financial status.
So I ask, is Satoshi Nakamoto who is the inventor of this bitcoin technology richer that those populated world influential richest investors who still invests in his investment technology platform (bitcoin)?
We don't know real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.We can not know how many bitcoins owned by Satoshi Nakamoto. Only can estimate it with Bitcoin genesis block and early addresses.
We can not know Satoshi Nakamoto fate now, alive or dead.
Many things we don't know about the Bitcoin founder and it does not make sense to estimate his wealth or wonder does he still invest in Bitcoin. He even does not need to invest more money in it with many bitcoins he has.
Bitcoin is not an investment technology platform!
Dear, you have shared a good thread one of yours well stoshi Nakomata is has vanished himself from the public eye for a long time a nobody knows the actual reason behind this. Satoshi Nakomata also has been an active member here on BitcoinTalk and his account also has been offline for a long time. But as far as I remember some months ago I heard a news he had done activity through his wallet they had made a trasction of Bitcoin to unknown wallet.
Nobody knows stoshi nakomata has done this activity by himself or someone else has done this. I think he had made a trasaction of around 100BTC which is really a big amount. Did you knew that? If you have any kind of idea must share i would like to know your opinion. well for now i have added your topic on the sheet i would read it in spare time besides this i have read only some points.
Mia Chloe has said it all. its very much impossible to calculate an anonymous networth. Satoshi Nakamoto is an anonymous individual or organisation and he or she or them has to physical contact with people for us to know how rich he or she or them is.
Just very simple if I don't know you and nobody knows you, how then can I calculate your networth? we have to be in contact or see your physical assets and other assets that are linked to you before we can say this is all yours and as such this is your networth and you and I know that Satoshi is never to be seen or has not been seen, even his mined bitcoins are not in the same block so how then do we prove he owns them, it's not just possible to determine the net-worth of an anonymous entity.
Just very simple if I don't know you and nobody knows you, how then can I calculate your networth? we have to be in contact or see your physical assets and other assets that are linked to you before we can say this is all yours and as such this is your networth and you and I know that Satoshi is never to be seen or has not been seen, even his mined bitcoins are not in the same block so how then do we prove he owns them, it's not just possible to determine the net-worth of an anonymous entity.
Other big investors can have their Bitcoins traced to just a few wallets hence making it easy to estimate their net worth. Satoshi NAKAMOTO on the other hand is a pseudonymous entity so we can't really tell if it's a person or organization.
The biggest reason you can't estimate Satoshi's net worth is because he stored every Bitcoin mined in different blocks in totally different addresses so it will be very difficult to map or trace it out. Hence making it impossible to track him down.
However Satoshi was known to have mined about 1million Bitcoins which he did from the first few blocks starting from the genesis block. And during those blocks, mining rewards were very large.
You can go though Bitcoin milestones and facts to get more info about how much Bitcoin Satoshi estimated to have mined before he disappeared.
The biggest reason you can't estimate Satoshi's net worth is because he stored every Bitcoin mined in different blocks in totally different addresses so it will be very difficult to map or trace it out. Hence making it impossible to track him down.
However Satoshi was known to have mined about 1million Bitcoins which he did from the first few blocks starting from the genesis block. And during those blocks, mining rewards were very large.
You can go though Bitcoin milestones and facts to get more info about how much Bitcoin Satoshi estimated to have mined before he disappeared.
Greetings house. I have been asking myself this question without an answer so I brought it up here to hear your contributions.
Bitcoin is a fast if not even the most growing online investments in the globe with a Total supply of 21 Millions of the Bitcoin which has been a trend in a global massive adoptions.
Now most of the world richest investors are investing in the bitcoin with an aim to make more money in addy to their financial portfolios.
So I ask, is Satoshi Nakamoto who is the inventor of this bitcoin technology richer that those populated world influential richest investors who still invests in his investment technology platform (bitcoin)?
I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
Or does the sake of his bitcoin anonymity affect all ramifications of his life to stay anonymous?
Bitcoin is a fast if not even the most growing online investments in the globe with a Total supply of 21 Millions of the Bitcoin which has been a trend in a global massive adoptions.
Now most of the world richest investors are investing in the bitcoin with an aim to make more money in addy to their financial portfolios.
So I ask, is Satoshi Nakamoto who is the inventor of this bitcoin technology richer that those populated world influential richest investors who still invests in his investment technology platform (bitcoin)?
I asked this because I haven't heard about Satoshi Nakamoto's networth as other investors are globally rated.
Or does the sake of his bitcoin anonymity affect all ramifications of his life to stay anonymous?
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