Topic: Is the Bitcoin Foundation behind the disappearance of Satoshi Nakamoto? - page 2. (Read 2755 times)
May 16, 2014, 04:38:35 PM
but, Please!!! do not call newsweek reporter
May 16, 2014, 04:30:28 PM
The core team should not be beholden to the foundation. They should leave and become independent. I think the community would understand and support them in many ways. IMHO.
Xtib
Xtib
The problem is that there is a "core" team. There must be no "core" team, independent or not.
The "core" team is beholden to the Bitcoin Foundation because the Bitcoin Foundation pays their salaries. Fortunately the Foundation's project has become increasingly less important because there are a few new alternatives that are gaining traction.
May 16, 2014, 04:09:40 PM
Wow I better grab my tin foil hat! Conspiracies abound!
It is dangerous to start such rumors without even a hint of evidence.
Besides everyone knows he is living in a Birmingham AL trailer park with JFK and Elvis.
It is dangerous to start such rumors without even a hint of evidence.
Besides everyone knows he is living in a Birmingham AL trailer park with JFK and Elvis.
I thought the double wide was in Montgomery? That's not a rumor, that's pure truth.
BTW: I love your Veg-O-Matic. It makes such thin french fries. LOL
Sorry the vacation double wide is in Birmingham.
You gotta try the Ronco Fryolator!
You are actually the first person to catch the reference. I was feeling kind of neglected until just now.
10 years from now Satoshi is found in a trailer in Birmingham and they hunt you down because YOU KNEW all along! You tell them it's because you slice, dice and make julienne fries out of information. LOL
May 16, 2014, 03:56:44 PM
Wow I better grab my tin foil hat! Conspiracies abound!
It is dangerous to start such rumors without even a hint of evidence.
Besides everyone knows he is living in a Birmingham AL trailer park with JFK and Elvis.
It is dangerous to start such rumors without even a hint of evidence.
Besides everyone knows he is living in a Birmingham AL trailer park with JFK and Elvis.
I thought the double wide was in Montgomery? That's not a rumor, that's pure truth.
BTW: I love your Veg-O-Matic. It makes such thin french fries. LOL
Sorry the vacation double wide is in Birmingham.
You gotta try the Ronco Fryolator!
You are actually the first person to catch the reference. I was feeling kind of neglected until just now.
May 16, 2014, 03:11:19 PM
Why is there a Bitcoin foundation and why is it important to Bitcoin or to me?
Would it make more sense for this thread to be the basis for policy makers to act on? First tell us if you think the policy makers are Reasonably Intelligent.
Have you checked the Bitcoin foundation forum recently. One of your own members equated the content to that only found in elementary school and he is pro Bitcoin foundation.
If you cannot take care of your fast food organization( Thanks Brian), then how can you claim to be leaders in the Bitcoin community as a whole? Enough excuses its time to clean house.
Xtib
I dont understand why u think that this house is so important ? A protocol does not need a house. Does SMTP has a foundation ? Please check => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/does-a-protocol-need-a-foundation-611393
U cant really dismantle a house as long as they are not dependent on u. U & me can form a foundation. What the hell others can do with that ? We just need to make sure, this foundation does not change any of the salient features of the protocol using the core dev team.
May 16, 2014, 03:03:53 PM
Why is there a Bitcoin foundation and why is it important to Bitcoin or to me?
Would it make more sense for this thread to be the basis for policy makers to act on? First tell us if you think the policy makers are Reasonably Intelligent.
Have you checked the Bitcoin foundation forum recently. One of your own members equated the content to that only found in elementary school and he is pro Bitcoin foundation.
If you cannot take care of your fast food organization( Thanks Brian), then how can you claim to be leaders in the Bitcoin community as a whole? Enough excuses its time to clean house.
Xtib
I dont understand why u think that this house is so important ? A protocol does not need a house. Does SMTP has a foundation ? Please check => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/does-a-protocol-need-a-foundation-611393
May 16, 2014, 02:13:31 PM
Why is there a Bitcoin foundation and why is it important to Bitcoin or to me?
Would it make more sense for this thread to be the basis for policy makers to act on? May 16, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Why is there a Bitcoin foundation and why is it important to Bitcoin or to me?
May 16, 2014, 01:01:12 PM
Too many coincidences.
The stupidity is beyond belief.
Xtib,
Your only purpose in creating this sock puppet account was to slam the Bitcoin Foundation. At least explain why you have mounted such a vendetta against it. What is your ultimate goal? Is it to destroy Bitcoin, perhaps?
May 16, 2014, 12:01:43 PM
Wow I better grab my tin foil hat! Conspiracies abound!
It is dangerous to start such rumors without even a hint of evidence.
Besides everyone knows he is living in a Birmingham AL trailer park with JFK and Elvis.
It is dangerous to start such rumors without even a hint of evidence.
Besides everyone knows he is living in a Birmingham AL trailer park with JFK and Elvis.
I thought the double wide was in Montgomery? That's not a rumor, that's pure truth.
BTW: I love your Veg-O-Matic. It makes such thin french fries. LOL
May 16, 2014, 11:53:08 AM
Wow I better grab my tin foil hat! Conspiracies abound!
It is dangerous to start such rumors without even a hint of evidence.
Besides everyone knows he is living in a Birmingham AL trailer park with JFK and Elvis.
It is dangerous to start such rumors without even a hint of evidence.
Besides everyone knows he is living in a Birmingham AL trailer park with JFK and Elvis.
May 16, 2014, 11:51:03 AM
1. Bitcoin.com is owned by Roger Ver, not MK
and Bitcoins.com is owned by Mark Karpeles
http://www.whois.com/whois/bitcoins.com
Either Mark bought it later or he is doing this conspiracy since 2000
May 16, 2014, 11:45:13 AM
satoshi is alive.. im not talking about dorian.. but during the dorian saga, satoshi (bitcoin creator) made an announcement that h was not dorian... thus he is alive..
The message wasn't signed so it doesn't count. 
May 16, 2014, 11:32:31 AM
1. Bitcoin.com is owned by Roger Ver, not MK
and Bitcoins.com is owned by Mark Karpeles
http://www.whois.com/whois/bitcoins.com
May 16, 2014, 11:24:39 AM
Conspiracy theories around bitcoin foundation are incoming .
Based on fact that he haven't touched his bitcoins in long it shows that he might be dead (I hope he is not).
If someone would do anything to him, he would already turn bitcoins to fiat and leave on some nice tropical island.
.Based on fact that he haven't touched his bitcoins in long it shows that he might be dead (I hope he is not).
If someone would do anything to him, he would already turn bitcoins to fiat and leave on some nice tropical island.
I hope he is ok too.
Xtib
satoshi is alive.. im not talking about dorian.. but during the dorian saga, satoshi (bitcoin creator) made an announcement that h was not dorian... thus he is alive..
May 16, 2014, 11:22:17 AM
Yeah, they killed him.
Has anyone checked under the foundation lately?
There is no body left, we ate it. At night BF members turn into monsters and eat people.
May 16, 2014, 11:17:56 AM
1. Bitcoin.com is owned by Roger Ver, not MK
2. Bitcoin.org is owned by Sirius aka Martti Malmi.
3. MK came to Japan as an employee of a French software company and then left it to form Tibane/KalyHost.
4. Why Gavin's surname is Bell ...it is not clear to me !!!
The bitcoinfoundation.org was owned by Mark Karpeles until a few days before he filed for bankruptcy. He transferred the domain name to Gavin. Who owned the Bitcoin name before Mark filed for Bankruptcy?
Check the Whois history of bitcoinfoundation.org...
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Administrative Contact Information:
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Information Updated: Mon, 5 May 2014 18:20:49 UTC
Name: Peter Vessenes
Organization: Bitcoin Foundation
Address 1: Suite 300, 71 Columbia St
City: Seattle
State: WA
Zip: 98104
Country: US
Phone: +1.2064864488
Email: [email protected]
Administrative Contact Information:
Name: Peter Vessenes
Organization: Bitcoin Foundation
Address 1: Suite 300, 71 Columbia St
City: Seattle
State: WA
Zip: 98104
Country: US
Phone: +1.2064864488
Email: [email protected]
Technical Contact Information:
Name: Gavin Andresen
Organization: Bitcoin Foundation
Address 1: Suite 300, 71 Columbia St
City: Seattle
State: WA
Zip: 98104
Country: US
Phone: +1.2064864488
Email: [email protected]
Information Updated: Mon, 5 May 2014 18:20:49 UTC
May 16, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
Yeah, they killed him.
Don't tell anyone!
Seriously, the founding members are not all really early adopters (from: https://github.com/pmlaw/The-Bitcoin-Foundation-Legal-Repo/blob/master/Bylaws/Bylaws_of_The_Bitcoin_Foundation.md):
(a) Founding Members. The Founding Members of the Corporation shall be:
i. Gavin Andresen, Bitcoin Developer residing or doing business in Amherst, MA, USA.
ii. Peter Vessenes, CEO of CoinLab and residing or doing business in Bainbridge Island, WA, USA.
iii. Charles Shrem, CEO of BitInstant residing or doing business in Brooklyn, NY, USA.
iv. Roger Ver, CEO of MemoryDealers residing or doing business in Santa Clara, CA, USA.
v. Patrick Murck, Principal at Engage Legal, PLLC residing or doing business in Washington, DC, USA.
vi. Mark Karpeles, CEO of MtGox.com and residing or doing business in Tokyo, Japan.
vii. Satoshi Nakamoto, at [email protected], author of the white paper “Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System” published on http://bitcoin.org and owner of the PGP Public Key with fingerprint: DE4E FCA3 E1AB 9E41 CE96 CECB 18C0 9E86 5EC9 48A1.
I think people have a misconception about how big the foundation is...it's not like a big organization. Most fast food restaurants have more employees...
May 16, 2014, 11:00:22 AM
satoshi moved way from bitcoin way before the formation of the foundation, so un-foundation related, sorry to burst that bubble.
as for mtgox scammer, karpeles did run away from france as he had a court case related to fraud against him in france. thus he legged it. but this is also nothing to do with satoshi
as for mtgox scammer, karpeles did run away from france as he had a court case related to fraud against him in france. thus he legged it. but this is also nothing to do with satoshi
I am focusing on the founders of the Bitcoin Foundation. They appeared to be working as a team prior to the incorporation of the Bitcoin Foundation. The incorporation of the Bitcoin Foundation is a mere formality in this story.
Why leg it it Japan? Shortly after Mark arrives in Japan and becomes involved with Bitcoin, Satoshi disappears. Why did Satoshi give Mark the ownership of the Bitcoin name?
Too many coincidences.
Xtib
1. karpeles had other reasons to be in japan.. japan is not an issue, whether he set up mtgox in new zealand, africa or spain.. the story would be the same.
2. karpeles, satoshi and gavin are big figure heads of the early era of bitcoin i agree. but its not that the foundation made satoshi run away, its that big figureheads made the foundation (chicken and egg) you choose chicken controlling eggs. i choose eggs creating chickens
3. satoshi did not give the copyright to karpeles. satoshi did not want to register with a government agency 'bitcoin' (trademark not website) as it was against his anonymous-antigovernment nature. so karpeles registered it,
4. no coincidences, as its all tied to the history of bitcoin.. a ripple effect. without satoshi we would not have the protocol, without gavin we wont have the updates and bug fixes, without karpeles (in his honest days) we wont have had a bitcoin value which would have grown.. they all play their parts. like a well wrote story. they are the main characters in a book and without them the story would not be as epic as it is. so of course you will see plot lines of each character cross over each other.. as its part of the whole story. not a coincidence
May 16, 2014, 10:55:33 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto is the true father of the Bitcoin movement to create a decentralized currency. After spending years working on his project he writes a paper describing the essence of a revolutionary new protocol.
Gavin Andresen aka Gavin Bell began working with Satoshi to optimize the protocol for the masses.
During this time another shady character, Mark Karpeles, uproots his life in France and decides to move to Japan and start an internet company. Why Japan? Shortly after he arrives in Japan Mark buys majority ownership in MTGox. By that time MTGox is trading in Bitcoin and under Mark's control evolves into the world's largest Bitcojn trading platform.
But where is Satoshi Nakamoto? As the Bitcoin phenomena takes off we are told that Satoshi gives Gavin the alert key to the technology and somehow gives the rights to the Bitcoin name to a Mark Karpeles.
At least that is what we are told by Gavin and Mark. I guess we should take their word for it.
Satoshi Nakamoto subsequently disappeared never to be heard from again. Mark and Gavin founded the Bitcoin Foundation and have made millions leading and misleading newbies into a MTGox.
We now Know around 0.5 Billion dollars has disappeared. They seem to have a knack for making things disappear. Some call it transaction malleability...........What would you call it?
Xtib
Gavin Andresen aka Gavin Bell began working with Satoshi to optimize the protocol for the masses.
During this time another shady character, Mark Karpeles, uproots his life in France and decides to move to Japan and start an internet company. Why Japan? Shortly after he arrives in Japan Mark buys majority ownership in MTGox. By that time MTGox is trading in Bitcoin and under Mark's control evolves into the world's largest Bitcojn trading platform.
But where is Satoshi Nakamoto? As the Bitcoin phenomena takes off we are told that Satoshi gives Gavin the alert key to the technology and somehow gives the rights to the Bitcoin name to a Mark Karpeles.
At least that is what we are told by Gavin and Mark. I guess we should take their word for it.
Satoshi Nakamoto subsequently disappeared never to be heard from again. Mark and Gavin founded the Bitcoin Foundation and have made millions leading and misleading newbies into a MTGox.
We now Know around 0.5 Billion dollars has disappeared. They seem to have a knack for making things disappear. Some call it transaction malleability...........What would you call it?
Xtib
1. Bitcoin.com is owned by Roger Ver, not MK
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2. Bitcoin.org is owned by Sirius aka Martti Malmi.
3. MK came to Japan as an employee of a French software company and then left it to form Tibane/KalyHost.
4. Why Gavin's surname is Bell ...it is not clear to me !!!
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