Is the Ukraine War a Money Laundering Scheme?

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Quote from: paxmao on December 05, 2022, 03:08:30 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 04, 2022, 06:44:56 PM

Quote from: paxmao on December 04, 2022, 05:42:41 PM

No it is not. There are much more efficient ways to launder money and a war is always bad for business (unless you sell weapons). Laundering money is pretty much accepted by many governments as long as it is the "right people" laundering, they leave some chunks in the table for the politicians and drive somehow the increase in the property market. Nah... laundering works better in peace.

The Ukraine war isn't about little money laundering. It's about the foundation of US money, which is a gigantic money laundering scheme.

I don't know if Russia has its own money laundering scheme to control the world. But the US dollar certainly is one.

The reason for the US push against Russia is that the US banking dollar is a Ponzi, as well. And like all pyramid Ponzi's, it will die if it can't find more people and companies to add to the Ponzi. Russia simply won't allow itself to be added to this Ponzi. So, the US is trying to use force to do it... force through Ukraine.

This whole thing can be seen in my thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60995801. Oh, that's right. You don't want to check it out to see. Almost forgot.

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If you are truly on the side of the people of Ukraine, tell them to get their Bibles out, and read and accept the first 4 books of the New Testament. Everybody dies, and Ukrainian people will be dying faster if they keep pushing at Russia. At least, if they come to believe about Jesus, they will be raised to life in the last day at the time of the Judgment, when Jesus returns.

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BA, if you really want to be taken seriously, you are going to actually provide realistic evidence of the things your say, because it is very trendy to be a conspiracy theorist and it seems to be commonly accepted that anyone out there may know more than the people who actually know about things after studying all their life - but I do not. I am not blind, I do not fail to see the "scheme behind" nor anything like that. It is simply that I have actually bothered to learn about how the world works from proper sources.

Now, if you expect any kind of reasonable discussion, you would need to stop mentioning your imaginary friends (such as "God") or choose to go and talk to them.

BTW, Ukrainians are mostly Orthodox, which actually have a version of the Christian legends much closer to the original ones, kept by the Byzantines. You do not get to teach anything to them regarding Christian mythology.

Nobody can get serious reasonable discussion with somebody who rejects God. If Zelensky were a leader of a leading world country, he might be able to mess with God a little. But since he is just a puppet, he is designing his own downfall. And you are copying him. Change while you have the opportunity, before you are cast out forever.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky Moves to Outlaw Orthodox Christianity

Quote from: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelensky-moves-to-outlaw-orthodox-christianity/

Yesterday, President Zelensky of Ukraine announced Draft Law 8821, which will make the Ukrainian Orthodox Church illegal throughout the country. The law, if passed, will also allow the Ukrainian government the ability to confiscate all church property and outlaw both public and private practice of the religion.

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Zelensky announces a decree banning religious organizations and churches in Ukraine with “ties to Russia.”

His government has also been raiding Ukrainian Orthodox churches and arresting priests.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 04, 2022, 06:44:56 PM

Quote from: paxmao on December 04, 2022, 05:42:41 PM

No it is not. There are much more efficient ways to launder money and a war is always bad for business (unless you sell weapons). Laundering money is pretty much accepted by many governments as long as it is the "right people" laundering, they leave some chunks in the table for the politicians and drive somehow the increase in the property market. Nah... laundering works better in peace.

The Ukraine war isn't about little money laundering. It's about the foundation of US money, which is a gigantic money laundering scheme.

I don't know if Russia has its own money laundering scheme to control the world. But the US dollar certainly is one.

The reason for the US push against Russia is that the US banking dollar is a Ponzi, as well. And like all pyramid Ponzi's, it will die if it can't find more people and companies to add to the Ponzi. Russia simply won't allow itself to be added to this Ponzi. So, the US is trying to use force to do it... force through Ukraine.

This whole thing can be seen in my thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60995801. Oh, that's right. You don't want to check it out to see. Almost forgot.

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If you are truly on the side of the people of Ukraine, tell them to get their Bibles out, and read and accept the first 4 books of the New Testament. Everybody dies, and Ukrainian people will be dying faster if they keep pushing at Russia. At least, if they come to believe about Jesus, they will be raised to life in the last day at the time of the Judgment, when Jesus returns.

Cool

BA, if you really want to be taken seriously, you are going to actually provide realistic evidence of the things your say, because it is very trendy to be a conspiracy theorist and it seems to be commonly accepted that anyone out there may know more than the people who actually know about things after studying all their life - but I do not. I am not blind, I do not fail to see the "scheme behind" nor anything like that. It is simply that I have actually bothered to learn about how the world works from proper sources.

Now, if you expect any kind of reasonable discussion, you would need to stop mentioning your imaginary friends (such as "God") or choose to go and talk to them.

BTW, Ukrainians are mostly Orthodox, which actually have a version of the Christian legends much closer to the original ones, kept by the Byzantines. You do not get to teach anything to them regarding Christian mythology.

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Quote from: paxmao on December 04, 2022, 05:42:41 PM

No it is not. There are much more efficient ways to launder money and a war is always bad for business (unless you sell weapons). Laundering money is pretty much accepted by many governments as long as it is the "right people" laundering, they leave some chunks in the table for the politicians and drive somehow the increase in the property market. Nah... laundering works better in peace.

The Ukraine war isn't about little money laundering. It's about the foundation of US money, which is a gigantic money laundering scheme.

I don't know if Russia has its own money laundering scheme to control the world. But the US dollar certainly is one.

The reason for the US push against Russia is that the US banking dollar is a Ponzi, as well. And like all pyramid Ponzi's, it will die if it can't find more people and companies to add to the Ponzi. Russia simply won't allow itself to be added to this Ponzi. So, the US is trying to use force to do it... force through Ukraine.

This whole thing can be seen in my thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60995801. Oh, that's right. You don't want to check it out to see. Almost forgot.

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If you are truly on the side of the people of Ukraine, tell them to get their Bibles out, and read and accept the first 4 books of the New Testament. Everybody dies, and Ukrainian people will be dying faster if they keep pushing at Russia. At least, if they come to believe about Jesus, they will be raised to life in the last day at the time of the Judgment, when Jesus returns.

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No it is not. There are much more efficient ways to launder money and a war is always bad for business (unless you sell weapons). Laundering money is pretty much accepted by many governments as long as it is the "right people" laundering, they leave some chunks in the table for the politicians and drive somehow the increase in the property market. Nah... laundering works better in peace.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 03, 2022, 07:04:28 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 03, 2022, 01:11:42 PM

Where have you been all your life? Don't you realize that people who make donations are expecting something in return for their donations? Sure, they might not be expecting it directly from wherever they donated to. But they often expect it back directly in one form or another. Very few people donate out of the goodness of their hearts, just for the giving of it.

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Think about how silly it is to claim donations to Ukraine to fight a war are a ponzi scheme because the funds are used to fund bioweapons labs (which don't even exist).

You're just mashing together two idiotic conspiracy theories that didn't make sense on their own and make even less sense mashed together.

Don't be so gullible. You can worship Putin and hate Biden and still not believe every Pro Putin anti Trumpless America mess that gets published on naturalnews or zerohedge.

Other people know the bio- labs exist. Funding for the war comes from the US dollar banking system Ponzi.

You are simply proving that you are part of the conspiracy system's PR.

As long as you sit up there on that cloud, being part of the US media propaganda campaign, you just might convince yourself that all your propaganda is really true... at least until it starts hurting.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 03, 2022, 01:11:42 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 03, 2022, 01:03:36 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 03, 2022, 12:52:25 PM

Here is one of the places money was launder to in Ukraine, through the now defunkd FYX.

FTX laundered money to Ukraine for biological weapons shelter funding

Quote from: https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-12-02-ftx-laundered-money-ukraine-biological-weapons-shelter.html#

Cryptocurrency holdings in FTX that were supposed to go towards Ukraine’s war efforts were instead funneled into biological weapons shelters, we now know.

The unraveling Ponzi scheme involved collecting investor cash and quietly using it to fund Ukrainian bioweapons projects – and all with the help of the National Bank of Ukraine, which was laundering money in collusion with Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF).

SBF launched a “charitable fund” called the Future Fund, the board of which was occupied by himself and Caroline Ellison, his former girlfriend. That fund, in addition to supporting the corporate-controlled media, was used to construct and design bioweapons shelters throughout Ukraine.

Money that was invested into FTX was routed by SBF into the Future Fund, which then disbursed it to Ukrainian bioweapons projects as well as the Biden regime and the Democrat Party at large. There were also several Democrat super PACs on the dole from the FTX scam.

As you may recall, Russia’s defense ministry blew the lid on Ukraine’s many United States-funded biolabs, only to be accused of spreading “propaganda” and “misinformation.” Now, it is undeniable that these Ukrainian biolabs exist and that FTX played a crucial role in funding them. (Related: Learn more about how Binance, an early FTX investor, is also tied to globalist entities such as the World Economic Forum [WEF] and the Chinese Communist Party [CCP].)

“There are 25-plus U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine which, if breached, would release and spread deadly pathogens to the U.S. and world,” said former Democrat politician from Hawaii-turned-anti-establishment hero Tulsi Gabbard back in March.

“We must take action now to prevent disaster. U.S. / Russia / Ukraine / NATO / UN / EU must implement a ceasefire now around these labs until they’re secured and pathogens destroyed.”

Tulsi Gabbard was right all along: U.S.-run biolabs are everywhere in Ukraine

Gabbard’s statements were backed by testimony from Victoria Nuland, the Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs in Eurasia. In speaking before Congress, Nuland admitted that biological research labs do, in fact, dot the landscape of Ukraine as Russia claimed. Nuland did not call them bioweapons labs, but putting the pieces together reveals that this is exactly what they are – especially now with the FTX revelation.

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Nonsense.

Ukraine used FTX to convert all the donations it received into fiat currency. Donations. Not investments. That's the end of the story.

Where have you been all your life? Don't you realize that people who make donations are expecting something in return for their donations? Sure, they might not be expecting it directly from wherever they donated to. But they often expect it back directly in one form or another. Very few people donate out of the goodness of their hearts, just for the giving of it.

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Think about how silly it is to claim donations to Ukraine to fight a war are a ponzi scheme because the funds are used to fund bioweapons labs (which don't even exist).

You're just mashing together two idiotic conspiracy theories that didn't make sense on their own and make even less sense mashed together.

Don't be so gullible. You can worship Putin and hate Biden and still not believe every Pro Putin anti Trumpless America mess that gets published on naturalnews or zerohedge.

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Quote from: royalfestus on December 03, 2022, 01:16:46 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 03, 2022, 01:03:36 PM

Ukraine used FTX to convert all the donations it received into fiat currency. Donations. Not investments. That's the end of the story.

I would like to know why anyone would want to launder money into Ukraine? What will they gain from moving the fund there. Regardless of the means used, I can understand the transfer of weapons into a war zone. Hryvnia has fallen badly in the last year, why would a money launder convert to a plummeting coin when he can deal directly in dollars? Hryvnia does not have enough liquidity for transactions in dollars

It isn't laundering money into Ukraine. It is laundering money through Ukraine. The article in my post two or three posts up shows that people in the US and other places - Biden family and many Democrats and other big money people - are getting US money, etc., back from what is going on in Ukraine. Money laundering.

It's very complex, and I don't understand all of what is going on, but Ukraine was being used by the US the same way that Wuhan was being used... to produce bio-weapons... Covid

If it is good or bad for this to happen in the long run, who really knows? We don't have a clear picture of all the bio-weapons being produced in the world by all the countries. It might be fighting fire with fire. But the methods being used in Wuhan and Ukraine... the methods that involve the US... are illegal for the US to do.

One thing is ultimately certain. Bio-weapons will be used to decrease populations >>> equal, to kill off people. That is the part that is not good.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 03, 2022, 01:03:36 PM

Ukraine used FTX to convert all the donations it received into fiat currency. Donations. Not investments. That's the end of the story.

I would like to know why anyone would want to launder money into Ukraine? What will they gain from moving the fund there. Regardless of the means used, I can understand the transfer of weapons into a war zone. Hryvnia has fallen badly in the last year, why would a money launder convert to a plummeting coin when he can deal directly in dollars? Hryvnia does not have enough liquidity for transactions in dollars

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 03, 2022, 01:03:36 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 03, 2022, 12:52:25 PM

Here is one of the places money was launder to in Ukraine, through the now defunkd FYX.

FTX laundered money to Ukraine for biological weapons shelter funding

Quote from: https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-12-02-ftx-laundered-money-ukraine-biological-weapons-shelter.html#

Cryptocurrency holdings in FTX that were supposed to go towards Ukraine’s war efforts were instead funneled into biological weapons shelters, we now know.

The unraveling Ponzi scheme involved collecting investor cash and quietly using it to fund Ukrainian bioweapons projects – and all with the help of the National Bank of Ukraine, which was laundering money in collusion with Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF).

SBF launched a “charitable fund” called the Future Fund, the board of which was occupied by himself and Caroline Ellison, his former girlfriend. That fund, in addition to supporting the corporate-controlled media, was used to construct and design bioweapons shelters throughout Ukraine.

Money that was invested into FTX was routed by SBF into the Future Fund, which then disbursed it to Ukrainian bioweapons projects as well as the Biden regime and the Democrat Party at large. There were also several Democrat super PACs on the dole from the FTX scam.

As you may recall, Russia’s defense ministry blew the lid on Ukraine’s many United States-funded biolabs, only to be accused of spreading “propaganda” and “misinformation.” Now, it is undeniable that these Ukrainian biolabs exist and that FTX played a crucial role in funding them. (Related: Learn more about how Binance, an early FTX investor, is also tied to globalist entities such as the World Economic Forum [WEF] and the Chinese Communist Party [CCP].)

“There are 25-plus U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine which, if breached, would release and spread deadly pathogens to the U.S. and world,” said former Democrat politician from Hawaii-turned-anti-establishment hero Tulsi Gabbard back in March.

“We must take action now to prevent disaster. U.S. / Russia / Ukraine / NATO / UN / EU must implement a ceasefire now around these labs until they’re secured and pathogens destroyed.”

Tulsi Gabbard was right all along: U.S.-run biolabs are everywhere in Ukraine

Gabbard’s statements were backed by testimony from Victoria Nuland, the Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs in Eurasia. In speaking before Congress, Nuland admitted that biological research labs do, in fact, dot the landscape of Ukraine as Russia claimed. Nuland did not call them bioweapons labs, but putting the pieces together reveals that this is exactly what they are – especially now with the FTX revelation.

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Nonsense.

Ukraine used FTX to convert all the donations it received into fiat currency. Donations. Not investments. That's the end of the story.

Where have you been all your life? Don't you realize that people who make donations are expecting something in return for their donations? Sure, they might not be expecting it directly from wherever they donated to. But they often expect it back directly in one form or another. Very few people donate out of the goodness of their hearts, just for the giving of it.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 03, 2022, 12:52:25 PM

Here is one of the places money was launder to in Ukraine, through the now defunkd FYX.

FTX laundered money to Ukraine for biological weapons shelter funding

Quote from: https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-12-02-ftx-laundered-money-ukraine-biological-weapons-shelter.html#

Cryptocurrency holdings in FTX that were supposed to go towards Ukraine’s war efforts were instead funneled into biological weapons shelters, we now know.

The unraveling Ponzi scheme involved collecting investor cash and quietly using it to fund Ukrainian bioweapons projects – and all with the help of the National Bank of Ukraine, which was laundering money in collusion with Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF).

SBF launched a “charitable fund” called the Future Fund, the board of which was occupied by himself and Caroline Ellison, his former girlfriend. That fund, in addition to supporting the corporate-controlled media, was used to construct and design bioweapons shelters throughout Ukraine.

Money that was invested into FTX was routed by SBF into the Future Fund, which then disbursed it to Ukrainian bioweapons projects as well as the Biden regime and the Democrat Party at large. There were also several Democrat super PACs on the dole from the FTX scam.

As you may recall, Russia’s defense ministry blew the lid on Ukraine’s many United States-funded biolabs, only to be accused of spreading “propaganda” and “misinformation.” Now, it is undeniable that these Ukrainian biolabs exist and that FTX played a crucial role in funding them. (Related: Learn more about how Binance, an early FTX investor, is also tied to globalist entities such as the World Economic Forum [WEF] and the Chinese Communist Party [CCP].)

“There are 25-plus U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine which, if breached, would release and spread deadly pathogens to the U.S. and world,” said former Democrat politician from Hawaii-turned-anti-establishment hero Tulsi Gabbard back in March.

“We must take action now to prevent disaster. U.S. / Russia / Ukraine / NATO / UN / EU must implement a ceasefire now around these labs until they’re secured and pathogens destroyed.”

Tulsi Gabbard was right all along: U.S.-run biolabs are everywhere in Ukraine

Gabbard’s statements were backed by testimony from Victoria Nuland, the Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs in Eurasia. In speaking before Congress, Nuland admitted that biological research labs do, in fact, dot the landscape of Ukraine as Russia claimed. Nuland did not call them bioweapons labs, but putting the pieces together reveals that this is exactly what they are – especially now with the FTX revelation.

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Nonsense.

Ukraine used FTX to convert all the donations it received into fiat currency. Donations. Not investments. That's the end of the story.

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Here is one of the places money was launder to in Ukraine, through the now defunkd FYX.

FTX laundered money to Ukraine for biological weapons shelter funding

Quote from: https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-12-02-ftx-laundered-money-ukraine-biological-weapons-shelter.html#

Cryptocurrency holdings in FTX that were supposed to go towards Ukraine’s war efforts were instead funneled into biological weapons shelters, we now know.

The unraveling Ponzi scheme involved collecting investor cash and quietly using it to fund Ukrainian bioweapons projects – and all with the help of the National Bank of Ukraine, which was laundering money in collusion with Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF).

SBF launched a “charitable fund” called the Future Fund, the board of which was occupied by himself and Caroline Ellison, his former girlfriend. That fund, in addition to supporting the corporate-controlled media, was used to construct and design bioweapons shelters throughout Ukraine.

Money that was invested into FTX was routed by SBF into the Future Fund, which then disbursed it to Ukrainian bioweapons projects as well as the Biden regime and the Democrat Party at large. There were also several Democrat super PACs on the dole from the FTX scam.

As you may recall, Russia’s defense ministry blew the lid on Ukraine’s many United States-funded biolabs, only to be accused of spreading “propaganda” and “misinformation.” Now, it is undeniable that these Ukrainian biolabs exist and that FTX played a crucial role in funding them. (Related: Learn more about how Binance, an early FTX investor, is also tied to globalist entities such as the World Economic Forum [WEF] and the Chinese Communist Party [CCP].)

“There are 25-plus U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine which, if breached, would release and spread deadly pathogens to the U.S. and world,” said former Democrat politician from Hawaii-turned-anti-establishment hero Tulsi Gabbard back in March.

“We must take action now to prevent disaster. U.S. / Russia / Ukraine / NATO / UN / EU must implement a ceasefire now around these labs until they’re secured and pathogens destroyed.”

Tulsi Gabbard was right all along: U.S.-run biolabs are everywhere in Ukraine

Gabbard’s statements were backed by testimony from Victoria Nuland, the Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs in Eurasia. In speaking before Congress, Nuland admitted that biological research labs do, in fact, dot the landscape of Ukraine as Russia claimed. Nuland did not call them bioweapons labs, but putting the pieces together reveals that this is exactly what they are – especially now with the FTX revelation.

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The Ukraine war, itself, might not be a money laundering scheme. But the OP and all kinds of news shows us how some aspects of the war are being used as various money laundering schemes.

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