Topic: Is there a movement for change in Iran? (Read 556 times)

The first anniversary of the start of the protests, which began a year ago and continued for more than four months. This anniversary is passing slowly after the police forces tightened surveillance and imposed more sieges to silence the voices and prevent the protestors from stoking protestations again on the first anniversary. The officials stressed in every speech that they would not abandon the essence of the Iranian hijab as an obligation for every woman, and that the security forces were entrusted with enforcing all the laws related to wearing the hijab. This is because the morality police force had been dissolved as a result of those protests to satisfy internal and international public opinion during protests.

We expected that the Iranian position would shake a little and that it would face more international isolation due to the human rights issue, but it seems that the world has forgotten its interests, and we saw Iran supplying Russia with drones in its war in Ukraine. Then, a few days ago, Iran was accepted for membership in the largest global economic alliance “BRICS.” .

At the same time, Iranian youth, and women in particular, are still publishing video clips with bare heads without a veil in a symbolic movement that the protests are still continuing, in addition to support from outside Iran, as many Western cities are still having marches in support of Iranian youth in front of Iranian embassies and diplomatic institutions.

The fact that the current regime is shit does not mean that the Sha was anything else but a dictator. People that flew Iran and more quietly people living in Iran consider the guy a better alternative. I mean, if I had to choose then yes... However, Iran is not a poor country and many people are educated, so there is fertile ground for a possible non-theocratic Republic, but that is nearly impossible to achieve while the ignorant and the corrupt have all the guns.

On the "world mafia"... anything specific? Because the US was quite happy dealing with the Sha, so it must be someone else.

Iran in the 70'is when the Shah of Iran (King) was in power before the world mafia removed him

There is a movement, but every time there are protests, the Mullahs send the protesters to prison, by the thousands, an kill a few hundred. The protest lack organisation or leadership. The regime cares not for pacific protests and the protesters do not have any means to take the regime down by force.

The theocratic regime is strongly imbricated in some classes of the "Republic"... unless there is foreign intervention, it is unlikely to change from the inside. The "morality" militias are pretty much a gang of thieves and the regime is cosy with them.

I would not like if Iran somehow managed to deviate the attention from the violation of human rights towards their nuclear capabilities, as a Venezuelan, I have been a witness of how horrible a regime can be against their own citizens for the sake of power.

I do not think it is a coincidence the Iran, Russia and China feel comfortable enough to keep strong relationship with Venezuela. I do not know for sure how bad the HR violations are in those other countries, but anyone who is willing to perpetuate what happens here cannot earn my support or sympathy.

And I am not talking about oil or geopolitics, I am talking about corruption and how people get thrown in jail here and justice obeys those with cash in hand... not even mentioning the prosecution for political ideas.

It is noticeable that since the outbreak of the Ukrainian war, Iran has succeeded in establishing declared alliances with the eastern front led by Russia and China, which made it easier for it to get out of its international isolation imposed on it by the nuclear file.  Alliances that enabled it to reposition itself in the region (consensus with both Saudi Arabia and Iraq) and in the world as well, through economic agreements with Venezuela and China that depend in large part on commercial exchanges in the currency of one of the two countries, not in dollars or euros.

 This new situation for Iran made it easier for it to overcome the issue of human rights that the West accuses it of, which has become focused on Iran's role in its alliance with Russia, which explains the Israeli newspaper's announcement of US-Iranian consultations to reconfigure a new nuclear agreement.

The supreme leader of Iran is having an official visit in my country now, it seems. Rather than signaling change there or here in Venezuela, it shows how two authoritarian and anti-democratic regimens are willing to support one another in order to keep their people oppressed and whatever illicit business of them running for as long as possible.

Iran won't allow a transition in a pacific way, sadly so won't Maduro.

There is currently a gasoline shortage here, perhaps this is about Maduro trying to convince Iran to provide more support and infrastructure in that regard, in exchange of more natural resources and business opportunities in our country, getting closer to the sphere of influence of the United States and Israel.

The Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth announced today ongoing consultations (presumably unannounced negotiations) between the Biden administration and the Iranian authorities to reach a new nuclear agreement in which America commits to respecting Iranian nuclear facilities, since they will necessarily be monitored. This proves two important things: First, America and behind it the Western powers have turned a blind eye to all those accusations regarding human rights that they have been directing to the Iranian regime, in addition to turning a blind eye to Iranian support for Russia in its war against Ukraine with drones. Secondly, this may be a service to Israel, which is considered the first direct target of Iran, which does not hesitate to declare its direct hostility to Israel (it targets it through the Lebanese Hezbollah and the support of the Syrian regime that refuses normalization with Israel), and this explains The journalistic primacy enjoyed by Ahronot invites you to publish the news.

Currently, we have not heard any comments, whether from the White House or from Tehran, whether with affirmation or denial, which suggests that the news is true, and we also have not heard the West's position on this news. It seems that the West is preoccupied with its position to resolve internal issues related to the Russian-Ukrainian war and the exacerbation of the immigrant crisis.

There are various problems in Iran. There is war and rebellion here. No matter how hard the people of the country try to stop it and they have to sacrifice a lot to continue their fight to be free. If Iran had more military power then others would not be able to keep pace with Iran and they could live independently. For this I think countries with more military power should help Iranians. If the economic situation of the whole country changes, they can easily become militarily strong, the countries that can help with money should definitely stand by the Iranians.

In principle, it can be said that there is indeed a movement for change in Iran, since the talk about it in the media has literally ended, and they consider this to be incidents that are considered more important. Much more important and dangerous events took place in Iran than what happened with Mahsa Amini, and the world media did not react to them with the same degree of enthusiasm. Yes, this confirms that there are real embarrassing events that took place with the Iranian regime, and perhaps at a certain period it was unable to justify it to some extent, since it is inevitably an active element in the crisis.

Mahsa Amini was nothing but a link in a series of events that the world touched upon within the media interaction based on political loyalties, but it reflected part of the truth anyway. At the same time, the sudden silence of the international system was certainly the basis for the conspiracy theory. Not everything that applies to these concepts can be an embodiment of what can be explained later.

I am still waiting for a real revolutionary event that is capable of real change in Iran. This may not happen soon, but indications of its occurrence have begun to appear more and more, and it will inevitably lead to a sudden explosion, the consequences of which no one is able to predict.

Well, difficult to say for certain since there is so much conflicting information out there. From what I understand, there have been protests in southern Iran following the death of Mahsa Amini, and some sources say that these protests have continued for four weeks now. However, it's also true that information coming out of Iran can be unreliable, especially given the country's semi-isolated status and the lack of access for international humanitarian organizations.

That being said, I think it's important to consider the context of the protests. Iran has faced a lot of international pressure and sanctions over the years, and there are certainly many people within the country who are dissatisfied with the government and its policies.

In my opinion, possible that these protests are part of a larger movement for change within the country, but it's also possible that they are being exaggerated or misrepresented by outside sources.

There are ongoing protests against the Shah's rule and martial law, with videos circulating of students chanting slogans against these restrictions, particularly those affecting women's freedom. While official media is downplaying the protests and suggesting they have subversive purposes with foreign support, the demonstrations have now reached their fourth week.

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I do not think, that there is any movement for changes in Iran. They like this life in old traditions. For more information about Iran just search: travel in Iran here - www.youtube.com.

I think that this happened last year and it has settled the problem which happened that time was effective for many people where affected but right now I don't think that that issue is still in existence so I believe that's why now the problem or the fight between the both country has been negotiated and be settled amicably

I want to address a point that may be absurd in the eyes of some.  It can be seen that the protests stopped, and it can be said that Iran (the Iranian regime) succeeded in containing the protests (I do not know if they can be described as opposition) with the least possible damage if we exclude some arrests and a few sentences between imprisonment and execution.  The issue is almost no longer circulated in media circles, and world public opinion has not continued to focus on the events in Iran, since it has claimed its interest in human rights since the beginning of the protests.

Please check this interesting article if you can read in French Smiley
https://www.i24news.tv/fr/actu/international/moyen-orient/1678892254-iran-de-nouvelles-manifestations-antiregime-marquent-la-traditionnelle-fete-du-feu

It seems that China entered the line and began to help Iran get out of the international isolation imposed on it by Western sanctions because of its nuclear file. After the protests in Iran failed to change the internal situation despite Western support, Iran strengthened its international position by lining up in the eastern camp with China and Russia, and it has already been proven that it supports Russia in its war on Ukraine by providing it with drones.
In a tripartite Saudi-Iranian-Chinese statement, it was announced that diplomatic relations between Tehran and Riyadh would resume, which had been severed since 2013 due to several issues, the most important of which was the conflict in Yemen.

The agreement includes the resumption of diplomatic relations between them and the reopening of their embassies and representations within a maximum period of two months, and includes their affirmation of respect for the sovereignty of states and non-interference in their internal affairs. Activating the security cooperation agreement between them, and the general agreement for cooperation in the field of economy, trade, investment, technology, science, culture, sports and youth.

For most religions, they managed to overcome the backward view of women and medieval legislation. Only the Islamic religion still has extremist groups in huge numbers capable of influencing. The Iranian example is not much different from other religious countries, or in which the reference for governance is religious. I can mention the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, in which the system of government and legislation is still based on religious references that control the destinies of the people, especially women, whom they always master in torturing.

Religious fanaticism is the bane of religion. Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, and others promote peace and harmony. But some religious teachers introduced inhuman views and beliefs and so many people became disciples and followed these teachings.

Without education how would the girlchild understand religious teachings? How will they live a good life? Women shouldn't be treated less than animals. I don't think there is any religion that supports the poisoning of people because of their divergent beliefs. These actions by these fanatics is brutal and barbaric. The government should investigate this crime and bring the perpetrators to book. But, sadly, the government supports this inhuman action but they can stop the protest by violence because it can further fuel it.

News emerged today about strange incidents that have taken place in Iran since last November, during a wave of widespread tension in Iran due to what the morality police had done in the case of Mahsa Amini. The incident is represented in the exposure of school students to poisoning in more than one school, and with the recurrence of incidents, the matter became suspicious.

The first incident targeted more than 250 girls in several schools in the Iranian city of Qom on November 30, then cases of poisoning appeared in ten other schools belonging to other Iranian provinces. The Iranian city of Qom is distinguished for being a religious beacon and a symbol of religiosity.
A few days ago, cases of poisoning reappeared in several girls' schools in the Iranian capital, which prompted the government to open an investigation, but it does not seem that it was dealing with the matter seriously enough.
All the accusations were leveled at conservative groups that refuse to let girls study, even if it is in private schools, to prevent mixing with boys. Their way of expressing their ideas may seem strange, but it helps them since the government is tacitly complicit with them and may be encouraging them since educated women who were leading the recent demonstrations and caused the abolition of the morality police in a historical precedent.

The matter appeared to the public after the German Foreign Ministry and the United Nations announced today their deep concern over the silence of the Iranian government in this regard, and demanded transparent investigations into the matter.

3 years after his arrest, Tehran announced the execution of the Iranian-British citizen, Ali Reza Akbari. Akbari, who previously was the Iranian Deputy Defense Minister, was arrested in 2019 and convicted of espionage for Britain, a charge he has always denied. With his assertion that he was subjected to torture and forced to make wrong confessions.

It was shocking and surprising. The news sparked a wide wave of international criticism, represented by condemnations from Western countries, sanctions against Iranian officials, and promises to hold Iran accountable for the execution of Akbari.

It is noteworthy that Iran has arrested dozens of Iranians with dual nationalities or permanent foreign residency holders in recent years on charges of espionage and national security. Some suggest that the death penalty against Reza Akbari was a reaction to the sanctions imposed by Britain on Iran's morality police and prominent security figures, in response to Tehran's crackdown on anti-government protestors.

Wednesday, was the day of the Iranian student, which is an annual anniversary.
Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi moved to a university and delivered a speech in conjunction with the high frequency of protests again since last Monday, which coincided with a wave of general closures in shops and stores as a solidarity step in support of the protests that did not stop even after the issuance of laws suspending the work of the morality police and the promise to review Hijab laws.

Ibrahim Raisi focused in his speech on explaining the governmental measures coinciding with the protests regarding the wave of general closures and the status of the Internet, which he confirmed that it would not be possible to lift the ban because it is an entry point for hostile foreign forces, he said.
The president looks as a support for the Iranian student, as if it was a position adopted by all the authorities, without mention the hundreds of students who are still under arrest due to their participation in the protests.

You are not reacting to the facts I mentioned earlier which is why you didn't quote them. You are just venting out.

That's off topic since the recent riots had nothing to do with Hijab to begin with, specially with rioters in cities like Zahedan and Kurdistan who are the origin of the unrest and at the same time are quite radical when it comes to how women should dress!

That's funny because if you really believed that you would have never followed the Western media for news or worse the Saudi backed terrorist media.

You think BBC is telling you the truth? The same BBC that barely covers how British police over a year ago kidnapped, raped, murdered and finally burned the body of Sarah Everard before dumping it in a pond and at the same time has produced 170000 fake content involving an Iranian woman who died of natural causes because of a prior brain surgery about 60 days ago!

I think this pooya dude is an agent of mullas or a treacherous sympathizer , as you can see from his posts, he is supporting these murderers.

Since im on my phone, dont wanna waste lots of my time quoting several posts, so im just gonna react to them without quotes.

First of all hijab is not compulsory in islam just like believing in God, afterlife etc. What you should know is that, not complying with the commands of God and teachings of islam is actually considered as committing a sin, like lying, stealing, fornicating, drinking blood and alcohol, gluttony, squander, murder, incest, deception, sodomy, greed, pride, tyranny, gossip, wrongful accusation, use something that you forbid others from using it, etc. Therefore if the government wants to punish hijabless women, they should punish anyone committing the sins mentioned above.

That being said, there is absolutely no doubt that iran has many foreign and domestic enemies, but we don't want to live without the rule of islam, that's why most of the people don't support the protests while we all hate our government, supreme leader aka our domestic enemies.

At the same time we don't like the fact that the protesters and our foreign enemies have the same goal.
So we are stuck between two enemies, unfortunately we have to choose between bad and the baddest.

For now western foes proven to be the baddest, so for now we are gonna sit and wait for mullas to change roles with the westerners.

After more than two and a half months of protests, and after hundreds were arrested and dozens were killed, a decision was finally issued abolishing the morality police and promising changes that would include imposing veiling laws that would be announced within a period of 15 days.

The Iranian street has finally succeeded in putting an end to the morality police apparatus, which has been operating since 2006 in a sort of parallel apparatus to the judiciary, as it includes men in green uniforms and women wearing abayas who roam the public squares and monitor the extent to which people adhere to what is called public morals, especially women who do not wear Hijab or wearing it in a manner contrary to the law. It was also a bold step that the authorities agreed to discuss the law imposing the wearing of the hijab, which was approved since 1981, a few years after the victory of the Khomeini revolution.

I do not know if anyone shares my position, but I am very happy for the victory of the Iranian street over the mullahs’ authority and forcing it to fulfill its demands for freedom and emancipation from the ridiculous martial law.

This morning, I saw what was reported in some Iranian newspapers on the issue of popular protests, and they confirmed almost categorically that the scale of the protests had receded and that the authorities had succeeded in containing them relatively, despite the Western mobilization to continue them and continue to disturb the regime.

All newspapers confirm that decisions will be issued soon regarding the ruling policies in the Islamic Republic and amendments to the veil law.

This is the first time, frankly, that I have seen the publications of Iranian newspapers, and my attention was drawn to the margin of freedom that the press enjoys in making bold statements that I thought were completely unacceptable in Iran. "Jomhouri Islami" newspaper described the current calm as a fire under the ashes and that change is an inevitable necessity.

The media can also help to spread the voice of the people but if it's hijacked by the wrong people we could be hearing different stories which might not be the real event that took place so we just have to be very careful.
Iran is a good country and if the international voice heard a out a fake news then this might send a wrong signal and Iran entirely.

Unfortunately, there are many who still do not believe that there are actually protests in the Iranian street, or that the people are rising up against the mullah's rule.
In an important precedent that took place today, the Iranian forces arrested the niece of the Iranian Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, for recording a video clip describing the authorities led by her uncle as a criminal regime that kills children. In the same context, a bank manager was arrested on charges of providing services to a non-veiled woman. One of the rappers, too, had his family expressing concern for her son's life after he was accused by the authorities of being hostile to God and corruption on earth, in light of the messages he expresses in his songs.

It cannot be denied that these disturbances are receiving support and mobilization from Western powers (hostile to Iran), and this can be understood in the context of strategic wars, but it can never be denied that the Iranian street aspires to change.

The good thing about this worldcup is that non Europeans teams are performing well and it's like breaking the EU supremacy in football. EU have created there supremacy by keeping football worldcup in EU and now they are having hard time playing football in Asian environment. Qatar has spent 234 billion usd on this worldcup still BBC is busy doing negative propaganda about the arrangements done. Clearly West control the media houses and can say whatever they want.

I keep telling you about the propaganda United States is spreading against Iran with reliable "western" sources about their Iranophobia project and yet you insist of reading, believing and spreading the same propaganda!

Take the recent World Cup drama. Before they national team went to Qatar they were threatened by US-backed London based terrorist organizations. Yet they went. Then they started threatening them and their families to be murdered if they won any games or sang the national anthem.
This is not a speculation or accusation, if you visit these players' social media you can see all of it posted and still up IN PUBLIC! because apparently terrorism and threat of violence against Iranians are allowed on social media like Instagram (a US based and US controlled social media).
They didn't sing the national anthem and then lost the game against England because they had no focus because of all these threats.

Later a dozen terrorists were arrested by Qatari and Iranian security forces and these players were assured to be safe as the terror cells were neutralized. Next game against Wales not only they were focused, they sang the national anthem and they won the game 2-0.

But of course WashingtonPost is never going to tell you these things. The propaganda machine is only allowed to cover the part about not singing national anthem in first game.

Yesterday, In a special session on the suppression of Iranian protests by the regime of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the United Nations Human Rights Council voted in favor of forming an international fact-finding committee in this regard. The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights has called for an independent and impartial investigation into the protests in Iran.
The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights also said that the investigations into the killing of Mahsa Amini did not follow the principles and standards of a fair investigation, in addition to the internet shutdown and the intense repression of the demonstrators.

What happened during the World Cup from the Iranian official team was a clear message to the popular position that no one can deny. Iranian people are very civilized and enjoy a good standard of living compared to other peoples. A people at their level cannot continue to accept the mullahs' regime and the moral police. Perhaps he does not need to change the regime as much as it needs to change the rules that are based on religious jurisprudence.

I believe there is indeed a real movement of people in Iran which is trying to bring a social change in that country, to end what they perceive to be an oppressive regime. 
I am personally not sure of the size of the protest and the movement itself, because I can't trust the media on that matter.

We must not forget Iran is a foe of the United States and many of its allies, which leads to suspect to what extend there is some kind of intervention going on or even biased information being broadcast through TV and internet. Not Certain what the outcome will be, either.

It is possible that they want changes in the country, this is the 21st century and we shouldn't be hearing these kind of news. It is a nationwide annoyance against these mediocre laws that even their soccer players representing them in the world cup refused singing to the anthem, the biggest show of grievances against their country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/11/21/iran-world-cup-protests-anthem/

Well, in my opinion, though there are many protests in Iran, they aren't good enough to bring changes in the country as they are not well organized and properly formed. Also, the difference in sect and thoughts of the people of Iran is responsible for the same. But yes, the media is highlighting and creating hype.

Today, 800 people were officially charged with fueling the protests. International news indicates that more than 1,500 people have been arrested since the protests began. Can you confirm that no one has been killed by the Iranian police forces since the protests began?
There are violations of human rights almost everywhere, but this cannot explain or justify their occurrence in a particular place. Perhaps if we compare the situation in Iran to other regions, it may be better off, but does this explain the stoning of Soraya or Salman Rushdie, whose blood was sanctified by the Supreme Leader personally? As far as I know, the majority of the Iranian opposition lives in exile and has no hope of returning to Iran.

There is human rights issue everywhere. However, it is far less in Iran. I dare say less than anywhere else in the world. Last year alone US police murdered 4900 prisoners, French police is regularly shooting protesters and blinding a lot of them, UK police recently had a clash with idiots protesting against Iranian police and UK police brutally beat all of them and arrested most! in Saudi Arabia they recently hung 81 people for no reason half of them were children from age of 9 to 14.
How many cases you can find from Iran?!

The biggest problem we have in Iran IMO is too much freedom and political representation. Literary anybody is doing whatever the hell they want and say whatever they want. For example over the past couple of weeks a separatist is literary inciting violence in Zahedan (city in Eastern Iran) and advertises separatism. A crime that has up to 8 years prison anywhere else in the world and in Arab countries specifically in Saudi Arabia the punishment is beheading. In Iran on the other hand, due to freedom of speech nobody arrests that asshole.

Except that the negative things you read on social media is produced by US military in their cold war project with Iran. Here is a study by Stanford university: https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:nj914nx9540/unheard-voice-tt.pdf

I can understand the situation you describe to me, since my country witnessed a similar situation during the Arab Spring. But in this way, we deny that there is a human rights issue in Iran and that the people suffer from a decline in the level of freedoms and political representation. If the well-known media cannot be trusted, the testimonies shared on social media platforms, in addition to Iranian cinema, cannot be denied, all of which describe a deteriorating state of the human rights situation in Iran. If a people is suffering from all this pressure, it is natural that they are supported in their protests against external forces with malicious intentions.

As an Iranian living inside Iran let me tell you that this was the biggest CIA operation with a multi billion dollar budget that were in action over the past 3 years at least. This had nothing to do with "wearing a veil" (Iranian wear scarves not veils). This was a viral news about police beating a woman to death which turned out to be a lie. Imagine the George Floyd and Black Lives Matter movement in US but based on a lie since the footage is released from the moment she is arrested, moved to the station and her walking around healthy and untouched and her falling down because of her preexisting medical condition.

The protests weren't only in Southern Iran, they took place in most of Iran but they basically lasted about 2 or 3 days since that was how long it took the authorities to solve the legal and privacy issues and go through the bureaucracy before they can release the video footage I mentioned above and other privacy invading information about the deceased such as her medical history (eg. the prior brain surgery that had created complications, her fathers statements about her preexisting condition, their troubles in acquiring the medicine she needed because of the sanctions that US has enforced that prevents importing said medicine and has significantly increased their prices which is the example of medical terrorism that none of those English outlets are allowed to mention).

Over the past couple of weeks (after the initial days) all we've seen were some scattered destabilization attempts by either young idiots who are brainwashed enough to still not believe the footage that was released (like those who still think earth is flat) with trained foreign operatives and some terrorist cells trying revive a finished unrest by killing innocent people and blaming it on the government. Majority of such actions are neutralized like the woman who was caught carrying 50kg of explosive material trying to plant it in the Grand Bazaar, but sadly a handful of them fall through the cracks like in Shiraz: [Disturbing content ahead:] https://en.irna.ir/news/84924878/Sensitive-Content-Shiraz-terrorist-attack

There is not yet any final official count but the last one I saw was 43 deaths with 30 of them being security forces.

99% of the names they are reporting in foreign media (such as the London based outlets that are considered terrorist organization) are people who are either alive or had died long ago. In fact there is currently a trend in Iranian social media from people who see their own names in said lists like on BBC and post a video about being alive and demanding these outlets stop spreading lies. Or their families who are now forced to talk about how their daughter had died 6 months ago in a car accident or another family who were forced to reveal their daughter committed suicide 2 weeks ago by jumping off a building (the footage of it exists too!).

There are no "Kurdish fighters" in Iran's Kurdistan. There are only terrorist organizations in northern Iraq (not Iran) in a region between Iraq, Iran and Turkey and all 3 countries have been fighting them. These are the groups that are being introduced as "Iranian" and wanting "freedom" which interestingly enough have ties with both United States and ISIS. They have been trying to smuggle a lot of weapons into Iran over the past couple of weeks to create artificial bloodshed which are mostly seized and neutralized by the authorities.

P.S. The 30-page long report released by the intelligence community is actually a pretty good case study of the biggest operation in the biggest and longest cold war that is we've been fighting. https://isna.ir/xdMFyK
The old Stanford University's 57-page article had also found a tiny part of the same thing (the part about brainwashing campaign) that is reflected in the above report too https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:nj914nx9540/unheard-voice-tt.pdf

It seems that the Iranian government succeeded in eliminating the popular protests after weeks of continuous pressure, in which more than 200 Iranian citizens were killed and hundreds were arrested on various charges.

The Iranian prime minister had directly accused America of fueling and supporting these protests, while some parties called for not entering into any agreement with Iran regarding the future of the Iranian Republic and to continue imposing more sanctions on it.

This strengthened the position of the Kurdish fighters in Iranian Kurdistan, but their cause is different because they want secession and the declaration of autonomy, and the issue of basic freedoms is not a priority for them.

In a step in support of the protests in Iran, the US State Department announced that it had allowed American companies to transmit news of the protests from inside Iran, explaining that it had imposed sanctions on those responsible for suppressing the protesters.

On the other side, France had announced its support for the manifestations in Iran, and also the European Union  called on to stop the repression and release the detainees.

It is noteworthy that the death toll has exceeded 100 people, more than a month after the start of the protests, a quarter of them are school-age children.
The internet has also been cut off since the protests began more than a month ago.

I am not in the "interest" phase of what is happening in the Iranian state. however, the demonstrations in Iran have claimed many victims and the current action is no longer just a regime protest, but demands democracy and human rights.
at least, the news spread in the international media voiced something uniform.

Iran's protests must be a turning point for women, life and freedom. Iranian people have experienced systematic oppression, especially against women.
Through mass protests and social media support, the Iranian people are doing everything they can to reclaim what they want. since the protests began, the movement has been led by women, and the slogan is women, life, freedom.

Religions are our way to lead our life,it's a path and direction that one has to follow in life. But any religion either its Islam or Christianity they teaches us tolerance,patience ,freedom of speech and freedom to live your life, it teaches us to respect each other and respect other's point of view.
This is not Islam that is killing a girl for just not wearing a hijab ,this is brutality.
And this is among one of the teachings of Islam "If you see someone doing something wrong raise your voice against it".
So this movement will have an impact on Iranian people and their thinking process.

A month has passed since the murder of the young Kurdish woman, Mahsa Amini. Protests are still spreading in the country every day, according to videos circulating on social media. And with the rise in protests, the number of detainees rises, and with it the number of deaths as a result of the authorities' use of live bullets. This is according to what is announced by the official Iranian media, while reports by non-governmental organizations indicate that the numbers are much higher than those announced.

For reference, it is women who lead these protests in defiance of the authorities and social norms, and many of them dared to remove the veil in public squares and burn the image of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei.

In theocratic regimes, especially those in which the ruling is derived from an Islamic reference, women are more vulnerable to persecution and more limits are placed on their activities in order to limit their role in society to limit them to their role within the family. On this basis, it is the one who is at the mouth of the cannon with every rebellion, whether it is subjected to violation or led the protest movements.

Today in Afghanistan there are only women who are demonstrating against the Taliban laws that prevent them from entering secondary education institutes. Their demands may be limited and small that do not exceed individual freedoms, but they are able to mobilize public opinion against the regime to make the demands larger.

What the Iranian people are doing right now is commendable.  We have heard so much bad news from the Iranian government over the years and especially recently with politicians chanting, "Death to America."  However, the people are standing up for their rights and making a splash on the global stage.  Particularly the women are showing an unbelievable amount of courage.  I didn't expect that the Iranian people would be setting an example for all of us, but that's exactly what they are doing.  I have hope that they will bring real change to their country and give women a much better quality of life in the future. 

It seems that we all agree on the difficulty of achieving change in Iran, whether at the level of the existing political authority or the norms adopted by the society. This can be confirmed by reference to a recent time when the Iranian people tried to rise up, raising different slogans each time. And every time the policy of repression confronts them and extinguishes their revolution.

The international parties cannot support these moves as long as they decide to isolate Iran internationally because of its nuclear file. As long as this isolation continues, the Iranian people's chances of achieving change remain limited.

That's not what's hypocrisy. Human rights, civil rights are on a whole other scale better in the west, than in a country like Iran. This is not just about hijab, it's about general tyranny.

What is hypocrisy is when we in the west talk about human rights, but go do business deals with dictators. Then human rights become all talk.

The Iranian people have a right to fight for freedom and dignity, and not supporting this would be hypocrisy.

Also this is not something the Iranian people have chosen. This is not a democracy where a majority can choose the direction. Is the legitimacy of a government in your opinion, just whoever have the biggest hammer to beat the population into submission, they should then rule?

Yes, that's right!
My question is, is this what Islam is about, or is it a religion of wickedness and heartless tyranny? It is always important to respect the laws of the land. Iranians have all the rights to make hijab compulsory if French/India can ban it. It is not a rule that should be ignored when it comes to torturing prisoners to death. It doesn't matter how many protesters there are, Iran is impervious to western hypocrisy.

There is no such thing as a right thing when there are two wrongs!

Yes, it's difficult. To actually revolutionize it, the government have to be forced out in one way or another, or be forced to change the system fundamentally. There are several ways this can happen in a revolution.
No doubt it's very difficult, the question is if it's within the realm of the possible or not.

South Korea got it's democracy from the military dictatorship when 5 million people went on the streets. They simply surrendered to the giant sea of people.

In other cases the pressure leads to an inside coup, though the Islamic republic has done a lot to avoid this scenario from happening.

A general nationwide strike could also be something that could put immense pressure on the regime.

Another question though. If revolution doesn't come now, does it come later by pure demographic tendency. The protesters are very young, many teenagers, where as the rulers are old men with the supreme leader being 83 years old. If the younger generations, generally despise the regime then the pressure might simply grow and grow over time.

tbh it will be very difficult for this movement to be able to revolutionize the Iranian government,,, because we know that most of those who sit in the Iranian government are patriarchal and highly uphold male superiority.. especially Iran is a country that highly respects Islam and according to their understanding patriarchy very important in Islam

I actually came here to see if anybody were talking about this.

Let me first say that I have a bias because I have an Iranian wife, and I know a number of Iranians trough her. All of the ones I know wishes for regime change. The group around me is of course not representative of the population as a whole.

I would also say it's extremely hard to make opinion polls inside Iran. If you call phone numbers, they can easily be scared to answer honestly, and if you use internet polls there can be bias in who takes the poll.

However there is a data point that proves massive dissent towards the current regime. In the last general election in 2021 (Let's be clear, this is not an actual democratic election system) there were a movement among people that were fed up with the current regime, and that movement agitated for vote boycott. If you compare to the former turnout numbers plus the increase in blank votes, it's actually 32% of the population who participated in the boycott. On top of that, it is unknown how many actually already didn't vote in the former 2017 election, for  the same reason. which had a turnout of 70%. But it's probably a good share of the last 30%.

This is already a big share of the population, based on the official numbers. This is of course if you even believe that the numbers are accurate and the boycott weren't even larger. It's very embarrassing for the regime and this is a country where the press is highly state controlled, and propaganda driven and you might be prosecuted for political view which the regime deems threatening.

Official numbers show 32% boycott + N% of the ones already not voting (The elected president got 35% of the populations votes). I think the the number is most likely significantly higher but I can't prove it. No matter what it's a massive amount of people who actually very well could decide the outcome of a presidential election if they were actually allowed to vote for any candidate they wanted.

This was how the Arab Spring began in Tunisia and spread to other parts of the Arab world. Although the Arab Spring didn't bring the expected changes in the Arab world there are few positive amendments in government. We cannot guarantee that this protest in Iran would lead to major changes in the government because a large part of the population is still held down by some religious beliefs that counter the purpose of this protest. Most Muslims don't believe that women should enjoy freedom and liberty.

Another impediment is that Iran is highly isolated from the world which would make it very difficult for some Western powers to penetrate the government or protest. The protesters need financial and moral support for them to continue this protest. But we cannot totally write off these courageous and fearless protesters, maybe they might become the catalyst for the change Iran needs.

That is why we normally said, christian RELIGION is the best, you will never and ever hear that Christians kill another christian because one disobeys law of Moses or disobey the dispensation of GRACE (Jesus Christ)  or another Religion fellow because he insulted Christ. But we see these things from the opposition Religion. I don't know why. Because of veil a very brilliant scholar was brutally killed and the so call police is very happy and comfortable that they have done a great thing to be promoted by the authorities. It is very bad. Well I am not from Iran so I can't give the situational report over there but the freedom socialization must be giving to  the citizens. If possible Liberal Democracy should be practiced in the country.

What has happened in Iran is the same thing that happens in my country.And only thing that can make a change in the protest is for the government to implement the request of the protesters. If the government refused to implement the outcry of the protesters then the police will be doing it as an habit.   

This is what I also thought, because this happened with the so-called Arab Spring in 2011. Where the media deliberately exaggerated the popular manifestations demanding the overthrow of the regimes, which later turned out to be among the strategies of the countries benefiting from that political change.

Iran is a dictatorial country, as described by its enemies and as reports issued by it unofficially tell us, but no one can really determine the popular will if we take into account that the society is conservative and fundamentalist.

The conclusion is that it is not possible to determine the popular will based on protests published by the media from countries that are in conflict with Iran.

Personally, I support change in Iran, and I do not hope that the Iranian people will remain under the authority of religious sheikhs, but the current scene does not really reflect the reality of the situation.

In the wake of the new government in America and the international politics that had erupted, everyone is minding their own business. At that time, they became interested in the country, but the economic situation in most of these countries had partially halted international politics and the contributions of world leaders. In support of the Russian war, Iran has provided aid to the Russians. There is a need for Iran and Iranians to work together to restore democracy, and religious sentiment is also contributing to the divergent views on the issue.

I don't think the protests is getting bigger as the international media reports even if most of the social media is banned in Iran still Instagram is working there so if the protests gets bigger and the government is trying to hide from the international still it can be shared in some way so people may find what is the reality.

There is no denial of what they are asking but when the government is strongly oppose it with the name of their religion and its laws then it should be fought to the current evolving world.

Four weeks ago, protests erupted in southern Iran after the death of the student Mahsa Amini who was arrested by the morality police on charges of not wearing the veil and brutally abused her, which led to her death.

Since the outbreak of those protests, and since Iran is a semi-isolated country due to the sanctions imposed on it based on its nuclear file, all the information we receive from official media hostile to the Iranian government or from countries opposed to Iran. I mean, the information is not from a reliable source, especially since international humanitarian organizations have no activity inside Iran.

According to international media, the protests have reach their fourth week with the publication of videos of students chanting slogans against the Shah’s rule and martial law that restrict women’s freedom, while the official media reports that these protests are limited and have subversive purpose and are supported from abroad.

In your opinion, is there really a large-scale protest movement that aims to bring major changes in the country? Or is this only media incitement aimed at inciting international public opinion against Iran?