Is there any problem if we reveal our winning strategy in gambling?

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

i think it just myth,i never believe if share knowledge can make you lost that knowledge,that bullshit. it happen because they want share their strategy with you,and me too,i dont have strategy,so i can said this Grin

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

Some gamblers may have a superstitious reason not to share their gambling strategy. The only logical reason I can think of to not share a gambling strategy is if the strategy is so good that everybody uses it which in turn casinos change the rule to prevent.

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impossible cause the casino games are designed by math scientists, ordinary people won't win or hardly win in the long term, unless the players are super lucky, but there is only a few people like that. if there is a bug on the games, players may use the exploit to profit, the most famous example is hufflepuff on primedice.

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If you don't want to tell anyone, just tell me, I promise I won't tell anyone! If you tell me, ill carry whatever message you desire in my signature, for as long as your method works... deal?

Seriously though, I can see why the dream of some winning strategy seems attractive, but I would prefer to keep gambling fun. I just have a few bets if I win good, if not good, cause either way i'm walking away =)... thats my winning strategy anyway lol.

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Quote from: adaseb on December 29, 2015, 04:49:04 AM

Second, why would you post a winning stragegy? If it works for you, keep it a secret and make as much money as you can with it.

Maybe you can't make as much money as you can if you reveal it and let also others win with that strategy?

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

I don't think it's real,first let me tell you i think there are no strategy in gambling,yes there are some strategy but that's to reduce loss not to always win..so if you think some big players are winning BIG then that's because they have experience and ofcource luck with them..Gambling is dependent on luck mate,Even the big players who think that if they reveal thier strategy they will LOSE,it's wrong because there are no strategies in gambling..they can lose even if they don't share thier strategies so we should know when to stop

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people only keep secret if they find out bugs to exploit them more and more

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I think it will not be a problem, there are no strategy that really work 100% in gambling, their strategies maybe wont work on others

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Quote from: Junko on December 28, 2015, 12:44:13 PM

The reason someone would keep their "winning strategy" to themselves - whether it is an actual winning strategy (eg. in poker there are various many winning strategies depending on the game) or if it is some bug exploit in a casino's programming - is because the more people who know about whatever the "winning strategy" is, the harder it will become to make profit from it. Think about it.

It's hard to believe a strategy for play gambling exist out there.
Even we often see people try to sell out their strategy and some people says it works I doubt on it. As you said unless there is a way to exploiting system they will never share it.

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Quote from: adaseb on December 29, 2015, 04:49:04 AM

Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

There are a few problems with this. First of all I don't really think most senior members really care if you post your strategy or not.

Second, why would you post a winning stragegy? If it works for you, keep it a secret and make as much money as you can with it.

Third, is your strategy really fool proof or was it just blind luck?

Sorry to say.. but i think you have not got my point.. in fact i posted here to clear my doubt from senior members.. I am not going here to post any strategy or my intention is not to say my strategy is correct or i have a strategy.. and also it is not to fool any one that i have a strategy.. it is just to clear my doubt.. Sorry.. if i hurt you with my post..

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

There are a few problems with this. First of all I don't really think most senior members really care if you post your strategy or not.

Second, why would you post a winning stragegy? If it works for you, keep it a secret and make as much money as you can with it.

Third, is your strategy really fool proof or was it just blind luck?

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

their may be some strategy and it is correct that when you revel your secrets in this forum, then very soon you will be seeing that you are loosing your bets, but mostly their is no secret in winning strategy, as the software changes all strategy within few bets.

This is my view and experience.

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Thanks for all the replies i got for my question.. In fact i posted this question...just to know the reality .. in my experience.. from the last one and half months i used to play the dice game.. normally i use bot.. i tried so various strategies in dice roll.. all the strategies worked only 3 or 4 days continuously.. but on 4th or 5th days fails.. I think the bot.. it self has the program to fails the strategy .. which gives continuous profits.. may be it is not correct.. just my view.. It is not to blame any site.. it is only my general view.. which i got from my playing experience..

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you're not just the only who is going to discover that strategy anyway, if one is playing the game for a long time and with the amount of motivation, anyone can learn the technique and will reveal it.
so hare it because you'll get credit if it work. Grin

I do play poker and techniques are revealed but implementing it totally needs a skill and memory.

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Okay, let me try to tackle this one. There are techniques that can give the player an edge against the house in certain situations. There are bet progression techniques, card counting techniques, and shilling techniques....many of which are not "illegal" but are not permitted in the "brick and mortar" houses. If one were to find a place where they could take advantage of these techniques then one shouldn't bring it to anybody's attention because those techniques would then be prevented from being practiced.

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There's no such thing as a gambling strategy for players, the only one's that have a winning strategy are the owners themselves. They need to protect their business and investors.

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I strongly believe that if any one have a really working strategy in gambling they will never think of revealing it to any one instead they will try to make as much as profit from that method before site fix that bug or issue. But as per me there is no such working method available in gambling.

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

it is because some people are thinking that they have a real winning strategy.
and if they will reveal it to public... almost everyone will try used it and the gambling site he's using will also know about it and take actions or precautions about it. But in reality theres no real real winning strategy. you just dont have to be greedy and control your emotions. and about poker or blackjack. it depends on your skills +luck. luck is always need in gambling.

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Quote from: dooglus on December 28, 2015, 05:35:58 PM

Quote from: Nimbulan on December 28, 2015, 04:44:10 PM

thats non sense in my opinion, there is no strategy that would let anyone win money from casinos in a long run because if there were such thing it would be unprofitable for it to exist as people would win all the money from the casino

It is still possible to make a long term profit playing blackjack in some casinos. If you win too much they'll ask you to stop playing.

But I dont think that blackjack need some strategy to play because you just need to have luck on playing blackjack. But for dice games, sometimes you really need a strategy to get your profit but like people always said in the long run they will lose it. Thats why you need to stop when you still can so you will keep on getting the profit slowly

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i think the dice was set up as for every 1 person wins 2 people must lose.
or 2 BTC in 1 BTC out.

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Quote from: Rubberduckie on December 28, 2015, 08:16:50 PM

If anyone does have the "winning formula" with sports or any
other platform they would never give that out!!!

why so it can be caught? and changed and made it so you cant
win anymore?

Just like those touts that sell picks for money for sports...
they are all losers and just good at marketing.

there is a reason billy walters doesnt sell picks. Cause he wins!

Dude, you are totally wrong.
They may be some losers, but:

1. Bookies are limiting winning players very very fast. Usually to 1-5 euro per bet which is ridiculous. Only few (less than y fingers) are not doing it. And some of them have too crappy odds.
2. If you are winning tipster with a lot of followers, you could give your picks for free to trade the odds. First you back your team, then you are giving or selling the tip, then bookies are adjusting their odds and lines goes down, because 3000 people starts betting at same line. And finally you are laying = $$ profit. I have a list few+ line movers.
3. Income diversity
4. You could selling picks from a gambling restricted county.

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If anyone does have the "winning formula" with sports or any
other platform they would never give that out!!!

why so it can be caught? and changed and made it so you cant
win anymore?

Just like those touts that sell picks for money for sports...
they are all losers and just good at marketing.

there is a reason billy walters doesnt sell picks. Cause he wins!

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I think certainly there is a problem, when everyone is using the same strategy, of course the robot will know the problem, and fix it, I think if you've got the right strategy, use for yourself

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

I don't think so, but if we reveal our winning strategy maybe make the sites "react". but in sportsbook reveal our strategy become good. because if we win our follower maybe give you tip.

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It depends what type of "gambling" you are talking about.
There isn't any strategies which works on a long run for casino games. They are just for recreation and fun.
In other hands for sure-bets, poker and so on, there are "strategies" but it's better to keep a wining ones for you.

For example if you know a surebet between two bookies with a 103% total, you should be very fast and taking it. Because if you post it public, a lot of people will try to take it and bookies will simply adjust their odds on that event. It's the same with low division soccer games. Lines are dropping really quick. On the other hand major leagues like NBA, NFL and NHL have a lot bigger volume.

In poker, if you play with a lot of regulars, they can use what you are writing to adjust their game against you. So still -EV.

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

Yes, because if winning strategies are known by everybody site owners take caution for that strategy. In time that won't work. That's why great gamblers only give few information. That also applies for sportsbook gamblers. We don't share our all gaming strategies. We give only slightly info about them. You have to figure out remaining.

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I think they are having you on how can you knowing their strategy make them lose unless they cheating

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well if there was such a strategy to always win against the casino, even though i really really doubt about that, there would be no difference at all on how much people would know about that, so i dont think thats the right thing that you said about not telling the strategies

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

No. Because they don't have a strategy.

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I think the most accurate there is no strategy other than patience. I think there is no force that exceeds it.

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Quote from: Nimbulan on December 28, 2015, 04:44:10 PM

thats non sense in my opinion, there is no strategy that would let anyone win money from casinos in a long run because if there were such thing it would be unprofitable for it to exist as people would win all the money from the casino

It is still possible to make a long term profit playing blackjack in some casinos. If you win too much they'll ask you to stop playing.

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

thats non sense in my opinion, there is no strategy that would let anyone win money from casinos in a long run because if there were such thing it would be unprofitable for it to exist as people would win all the money from the casino

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every day i see to the dice site chat more user write "i sell my strategy", but is only a fake, because in gambligng/dice don't have strategy, is only lucky, martingale not is strategy and don't work .

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No, you can reveal it if you would like. It doesnt make you lose more money, it cannot get saturated.

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

In short the senior members here telling you that are almost certainly lying. There has to be winners out there sure and they no doubt have a strategy that they keep to their self. Why would you tell anyone when you are raking in the doh how to do the same. How many more people would that person tell and how long would that last before the casino cannot keep up.

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It wouldn't cause a problem. And chances are, they just got lucky and made a profit so they think it works.

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The reason someone would keep their "winning strategy" to themselves - whether it is an actual winning strategy (eg. in poker there are various many winning strategies depending on the game) or if it is some bug exploit in a casino's programming - is because the more people who know about whatever the "winning strategy" is, the harder it will become to make profit from it. Think about it.

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

I don't have any strategy, all i do is roll and get lucky lol. even if someone/i did have strategy or have found some bug why would i/anyone would give that away? it will obviously get blocked that's why no one shares.

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Get your game girl

Yeah because once they reveal the technique everyone might start following them and if that happens gambling sites will discover the tricks and update their models accordingly so the tricks won't earn anymore.Basically tricks here apply Loopholes.

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If just me i wont reveal any winning strategy lol( but sad there wont any method for winning). I wanna earn it by myself and dont wanna spoil my earning method.
But anyway when you see people actually posting about selling winning strategy, i think thats all is not true its fake maybe. They want to scam for sure

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If I could have a winning strategy (short/long term I don't care) I would be very happy to share with my friends, because I think that nothing change to my luck or my earnings....
That's the karma...if you give help, you receive help back!
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Quote from: Snail2 on December 28, 2015, 11:04:33 AM

The only sure winning "strategy" if you know a bug in the server script and you exploiting that. Otherwise there are no winning strategy in pure luck based games. If we are talking about bugs, then yes, I can imagine that some people don't want to reveal that.

if it is a bug, usually the person wont even want to share it to use it for themselves or sell it at a ridiculous high price. otherwise the winning strategy is just some ways to reduce the risk, not really winning. u can win a few things but in the long run, the house edge will creep in.

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There are some sports betting arbitrage makes sports bettors earn profits in the long term, and it is strategy, some of them know programming, so they can program arbitrage bots to bet. It is definitely strategy and ability to earn money

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The only sure winning "strategy" if you know a bug in the server script and you exploiting that. Otherwise there are no winning strategy in pure luck based games. If we are talking about bugs, then yes, I can imagine that some people don't want to reveal that.

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These people who claims that they got some working winning strategy just want to get some intention and feel importance when some new members insist to share with them.Actually they don't own such strategy in reality.If someone gets some bug that dont share or not even talks in public.

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

No. I don't think it is real. Majority - if not all gambling strategies are not working, and being in fact collection of gambler's fallacies, fake beliefs and superstitions.
There is not even one gambling strategy proven to work. All I ever seen was lucky streaks and not constant performance.

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There is not such a problem if someone wants to reveal his sol called winning strategy.Instead this will be helpful for site owners to fix these things.First off,I do not believe there really exists such thing in casino gambling.

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There is no such a strategy which can be relayed on with exception of some trick which can work for a short period of time.If someone calls these temporary bugs/tricks winning strategy is childish claim in my point of view.

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I heard about things like that in the sports betting market. In that case I might understand because if a lot of people take the same odds for a given event, they will have to change, and if your margin is low for any given strategy, you might lose it. But even there I think a good analysis of the game is more important than any type of strategy.
In the other types of gambling I really can't understand why it should influence, but I never tried ay strategy in dice etc, because when I play, I just do it for fun, and don't really have any type of optimal play.

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

I dont know but mostly they need to share their strategy to get feedback too on how everyone doing with the same strategy but there is no guarantee that you will get profit of course but it still worth to try. Loss or not that depends on your luck not strategy because there is no strategy that really can get you some profit unless you are lucky enough

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No winning strategy! Even their is one which is just fit to their habit. House edge is existing there! We cannot win over the house!

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Quote from: aizzaku on December 28, 2015, 10:28:17 AM

Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

They are just messing with you. yea they might have few ticks or understand game mechanics to get high wining rate but nothing is 100% sure that i tell u.
if u play the game or study it.. it wont take more than a week to understan the mechanics

why they dont say is maybe they are friends with the gambling site owners.. if everyone starts winning how will these owners make money.

the only profit in gaming is to gambling site owner rest 1 out of 100000000 might win big..but its all covred already

Exactly, there is no winning strategy, maybe some nice streaks but at the end you'll always lose. That doesn't mean you should stay aways from gambling, just do it for fun with money you can afford to lose. Consider it gone before starting and you'll see how much fun it can be. Gambling is entertainment, you are paying for that in a sense. Hell, you could even win some profit some of the time!

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

They are just messing with you. yea they might have few ticks or understand game mechanics to get high wining rate but nothing is 100% sure that i tell u.
if u play the game or study it.. it wont take more than a week to understan the mechanics

why they dont say is maybe they are friends with the gambling site owners.. if everyone starts winning how will these owners make money.

the only profit in gaming is to gambling site owner rest 1 out of 100000000 might win big..but its all covred already

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If it's gaining profit from a gambling website and you make it public then this gambling website can take measure to this method.
So don't make it public & keep it private.

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Quote from: spiritual3 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:30 AM

Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

Im only a casual gambler and not an expert, but as far as I know there are no winning strategies in pure gambling, you can talk about strategies in games like poker where skill is involved, but I don't understand how skill is involved in stuff like dice, slots and whatnot.

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Some senior members told me that they never reveal their winning strategy in gambling. Because, it may make them to loss. Is it real?

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