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legendary
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@philipma1957 So you don't use a battery meaning at night your machine will offline?

How much is the cost for solar panel power only for your setup I know that sun is free hahaha but in my country setting up solar panels is expensive including the technician it could lost lot of money, How to break even for solar panel only in days ?

no my solar uses the grid as its battery.

say you do 280 kwatts for 5 hours(this was the average time of full sun)  that is 1400 kwatts in 1 day.

so 280-60 = 220 kwatts on back feed to the grid.

and x 5 = 1100 kwatts owed to me for night time running.

so 1100/19 = 58 kwatts an hour feed back to me by the grid.

basically the system earns me  1400 kwatts a day. it means I could run 19 s19's 24/7/365 for free.

or run 2x that at ½ price. which is what we do.

only a dozen states in USA make net meter the law so those are the states to use solar to mine .

grid-tied with zero batteries.
Isn't that wonderful? Grid-tied as the batteries when running your Asic miner is like a film trick that can never happen in my country, this is why I am jealous of miners in the US and UK, stable electricity just makes things easier.

Someone like me will have to use Batteries as backup when the sun is down to continue my mining operations, and the battery pack that will run an asic miner till the next morning is going to cost a lot of money, honestly, mining with solar without battery backup is a bad idea for people who are living in countries with epileptic grid power.

Many people chose to stay away from mining Bitcoin simply because of the lack of electricity in my country, it's a shame, to get even with Bitcoin mining seems almost impossible over here, also even if one can afford the batteries, ROI will be longer and also the batteries will weaken very fast.
Is electricity cheap in the UK?
I'm sure that with their weather it is not very profitable to use solar panels. But if you also use batteries, then it will be a very unprofitable event for making money. And in the US, not all states have a surplus of electricity.
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@philipma1957 So you don't use a battery meaning at night your machine will offline?

How much is the cost for solar panel power only for your setup I know that sun is free hahaha but in my country setting up solar panels is expensive including the technician it could lost lot of money, How to break even for solar panel only in days ?

no my solar uses the grid as its battery.

say you do 280 kwatts for 5 hours(this was the average time of full sun)  that is 1400 kwatts in 1 day.

so 280-60 = 220 kwatts on back feed to the grid.

and x 5 = 1100 kwatts owed to me for night time running.

so 1100/19 = 58 kwatts an hour feed back to me by the grid.

basically the system earns me  1400 kwatts a day. it means I could run 19 s19's 24/7/365 for free.

or run 2x that at ½ price. which is what we do.

only a dozen states in USA make net meter the law so those are the states to use solar to mine .

grid-tied with zero batteries.
Isn't that wonderful? Grid-tied as the batteries when running your Asic miner is like a film trick that can never happen in my country, this is why I am jealous of miners in the US and UK, stable electricity just makes things easier.

Someone like me will have to use Batteries as backup when the sun is down to continue my mining operations, and the battery pack that will run an asic miner till the next morning is going to cost a lot of money, honestly, mining with solar without battery backup is a bad idea for people who are living in countries with epileptic grid power.

Many people chose to stay away from mining Bitcoin simply because of the lack of electricity in my country, it's a shame, to get even with Bitcoin mining seems almost impossible over here, also even if one can afford the batteries, ROI will be longer and also the batteries will weaken very fast.
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I am searching about that how the mining setup will run on solar panel. If anyone from this board have their mining setup with solar panel then please share your opinion. I am planning to have one with some solar panels so I will mine for free.
It would take approximately 10 solar panels with an average capacity of 300 watts each to generate enough electricity to power a single mining rig.

well 3000 watts is about 15000 watts a day.

15kwatts if grid power is 15000/24 = 600 watts 24/7 for free

if you use a battery you can only run the battery down to 50%

so 15 kwatts may do 400 watts 24/7  since unlike the grid you do not get to run all the day excess on a battery

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I am searching about that how the mining setup will run on solar panel. If anyone from this board have their mining setup with solar panel then please share your opinion. I am planning to have one with some solar panels so I will mine for free.
It would take approximately 10 solar panels with an average capacity of 300 watts each to generate enough electricity to power a single mining rig.
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Thank you for your advise and I know that these will I face but want to know that if anyone have tried it with their mining rigs or not. I first want to know from the experience of other that how is it running in the time when it is sunlight and the solar panels are working. I want to know that how much is it possible.

Actually, he already answers what you need if you talking about how long the miner will run with solar panels it depends on your solar panel how much can produced and battery if how much can store.

If you want a diagram and how to calculate a mining setup with solar I suggest you check this PDF file below

- https://www.sit.ac.nz/Portals/0/upload/documents/sitjar/2021/SITJAR_-_Naveed_3.pdf

Take note this is an off-grid setup

Also check this thread to get some idea for on-grid setup https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solar-energy-bitcoin-mining-5337081

The laid-out study is really nice and in detail. However, felt bad after realizing that they are still asking everyone to check their own results in the conclusion. They still think there might more factors that can affect the way solar-based mining can work. Though the study is carried out on E9 antminer and probably geolocation is the major factor in everything, OP shall also take note of where they live. The amount of sunlight they receive, the night cycles and everything must be precise to have a stable mining protocol.

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There are no guarantees with regard to the financial analysis set out in this paper. Prima facie,
for the case study performed for setups in New Zealand, the Antiminer E9 setup appears to be
the most attractive in terms of its payback period, which is a good measure of its relative
profitability and its exposure to the risk from volatility. However, there are several factors that
we believe aspiring solar miners should consider before embarking on a solar mining venture
in New Zealand

The rest of the analysis is just based on how reactive the market is and earnings can change as the volatility changes, price dips or ups, etc. The usual factors. This is worth reading research for a person like OP who is going to get into it. However, the odds of success are really less when it comes to solar energy mining.
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Solar panels only generate electricity when the sun is shining. To mine continuously, you'll need a reliable energy storage solution, such as batteries, to store excess energy generated during the day for use at night or during cloudy days. Wouldn't it be too expensive?
Or combine with alternative energy sources. Or even in the old fashioned way, connect to the outlet at night, because there are nightly tariffs for electricity consumption, which can be cheaper in cost. Why not a solution, huh?
Solar panels do not provide a stable flow of energy even during the day. At night, in the morning and in the evening, the miner will have to consume electricity at the prices of energy companies. These panels will save electricity consumption at a higher cost, but the miner will still need to calculate the economic benefits of installing solar panels.

They are stable if you are grid tied. Basically my panels on thr biggest built do 1200 to 1500 kwatts a day.

The grid smooths them out. I get net metering which mean if I burn 55-60 kwatts an hour mining I spend zero a day on the miners. Roughly 18-20 s19s at no cost.

and various tax incentives to do it.

But the reality most of the world does not properly subsidize them and you lose money with them .

Its complex to know if they would work for mining since some areas will fuck you if you use solar.

Some states do not net meter they give you zero for your excess solar in the day.

some states do true net meter.

some states do flat rat 4-9 cents.

you have to be careful and understand your local rules.
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No, unless you have a thermal power plant used in conjunction with it or nuclear power. Don’t even think about wind power and energy storage. 100% professional advice.
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Solar panels only generate electricity when the sun is shining. To mine continuously, you'll need a reliable energy storage solution, such as batteries, to store excess energy generated during the day for use at night or during cloudy days. Wouldn't it be too expensive?
Or combine with alternative energy sources. Or even in the old fashioned way, connect to the outlet at night, because there are nightly tariffs for electricity consumption, which can be cheaper in cost. Why not a solution, huh?
Solar panels do not provide a stable flow of energy even during the day. At night, in the morning and in the evening, the miner will have to consume electricity at the prices of energy companies. These panels will save electricity consumption at a higher cost, but the miner will still need to calculate the economic benefits of installing solar panels.
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I am searching about that how the mining setup will run on solar panel. If anyone from this board have their mining setup with solar panel then please share your opinion. I am planning to have one with some solar panels so I will mine for free.
Mining will not be so free, because you will have to spend a lot on equipment (solar panels are not at all cheap). Wouldn’t it be better to start with cost calculations and perhaps traditional mining using electricity from the outlet will be more profitable, more stable and easier?

Wait a minute. It looks like we won't know how OP's saga ended with mining on solar panels, because he's been offline since February.


Solar panels only generate electricity when the sun is shining. To mine continuously, you'll need a reliable energy storage solution, such as batteries, to store excess energy generated during the day for use at night or during cloudy days. Wouldn't it be too expensive?
Or combine with alternative energy sources. Or even in the old fashioned way, connect to the outlet at night, because there are nightly tariffs for electricity consumption, which can be cheaper in cost. Why not a solution, huh?
legendary
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Solar panels only generate electricity when the sun is shining. To mine continuously, you'll need a reliable energy storage solution, such as batteries, to store excess energy generated during the day for use at night or during cloudy days. Wouldn't it be too expensive?

If your area has a proper grid and gives a fair deal it works.

If you use batteries it is very hard for it to work as batteries die fast. Plus they cost a lot.
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Solar panels only generate electricity when the sun is shining. To mine continuously, you'll need a reliable energy storage solution, such as batteries, to store excess energy generated during the day for use at night or during cloudy days. Wouldn't it be too expensive?

That is why OP asked everyone here because in my opinion that would be expensive and inefficient if we don't know about batteries One of the problems is corrosion to batteries too. The best way is to do mining like philpma did store electricity in the grid.

I think the best is mining with solar panels during the day and mining using the grid at night at least this method I believe can save electricity.
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no my solar uses the grid as its battery.
grid tied with zero batteries.


Wait wait I still don't understand is the scenario goes like this.
So you set up a solar panel and then energy from the panel goes to the grid and some of it goes to miner. When night comes the grid owes you energy from the day and you took it at night? Is that right

Well, that is clever   Shocked but in only happen in couple of states in US?




yeah NJ has true net metering.

Ie every k-watt you send to the grid you get back at night.


A list of states with some net metering all vary their deals.


https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2020/03/which-states-offer-net-metering/
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no my solar uses the grid as its battery.
grid tied with zero batteries.


Wait wait I still don't understand is the scenario goes like this.
So you set up a solar panel and then energy from the panel goes to the grid and some of it goes to miner. When night comes the grid owes you energy from the day and you took it at night? Is that right

Well, that is clever   Shocked but in only happen in couple of states in US?


legendary
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@philipma1957 So you don't use a battery meaning at night your machine will offline?

How much is the cost for solar panel power only for your setup I know that sun is free hahaha but in my country setting up solar panels is expensive including the technician it could lost lot of money, How to break even for solar panel only in days ?

no my solar uses the grid as its battery.

say you do 280 kwatts for 5 hours(this was the average time of full sun)  that is 1400 kwatts in 1 day.

so 280-60 = 220 kwatts on back feed to the grid.

and x 5 = 1100 kwatts owed to me for night time running.

so 1100/19 = 58 kwatts an hour feed back to me by the grid.

basically the system earns me  1400 kwatts a day. it means I could run 19 s19's 24/7/365 for free.

or run 2x that at ½ price. which is what we do.

only a dozen states in USA make net meter the law so those are the states to use solar to mine .

grid tied with zero batteries.
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@philipma1957 So you don't use a battery meaning at night your machine will offline?

How much is the cost for solar panel power only for your setup I know that sun is free hahaha but in my country setting up solar panels is expensive including the technician it could lost lot of money, How to break even for solar panel only in days ?
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There is an excellent video on this from this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9AlFJX6mOs&t=310s , that walks through solar set ups and how to optimize them and his experience with them. I thought it was very interesting. If you want meaningful mining then that might be a good place to start. I know this post is really old but just for people who might seeing this when I am writing this there are some fun opensource projects that use tiny single chip asic miners that are meant for things like solar mining such as the Bitaxe Project.
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Mining with solar can only be considered in countries with abundant sunlight like Africa. This doesn't mean that you can mine only with Solar energy because it will only serve you in the daytime bit at night it will be impossible.

Mining is 24hrs,so the best way to use solar is to use it with grid but only solar wouldn't work. Mining with Solar is very expensive because the batteries don't last due to the power these mining equipment consumes.

you should delete this as it is not very accurate.

As for how much power a good BTC basic needs at least 1800 watts for a 2 board s19 pro will do about 63th.

a three board s19 pro 110 th can do 2500 watts and about 98th

So lets say you have the s19 pro and under clock.

2.5 x 24 = 60 kwatts. a day

you need 35x400 watt panels grid tied. they will do 14000 watts for an average of 5 hours.

70000 watts or 70kwatts.

  you use just under 3 for 5-6 hours back feed 11 to the grid for those 5 hours giving you 55kwatts for night time. the grid swaps it back and forth for you.

so a home with  35 panels you need to spend around 28k to install it.

It will allow for 1 s19 for free till it breaks.
then replace it with an s-21 run it for free til it breaks.

the setup is battery free. battery free is the key grid tied is the key.

or get batteries at a 75% discount from a source I do not have.
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Mining with solar can only be considered in countries with abundant sunlight like Africa. This doesn't mean that you can mine only with Solar energy because it will only serve you in the daytime bit at night it will be impossible.

Mining is 24hrs,so the best way to use solar is to use it with grid but only solar wouldn't work. Mining with Solar is very expensive because the batteries don't last due to the power these mining equipment consumes.

you should delete this as it is not very accurate.
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Mining is 24hrs,so the best way to use solar is to use it with grid but only solar wouldn't work. Mining with Solar is very expensive because the batteries don't last due to the power these mining equipment consumes.
The solar power needed for mining bitcoins depends on a few things, like how big the mining setup is, how good the mining tools are, and how sunny the place is. But here is something for you, just one machine for mining bitcoins might use anywhere from 500 watts to 1.5 kilowatts of power.
1st thing to make clear: Other than USB stickminers or small pods like those from Sidehack, BTC miners draw a LOT of power - not just "500w to 1.5kw". For the past few years bump that high end to an average of around 3.2kw with some of the largest (over 200THs) pulling over 5kw.

About batteries: This is an excellent guide to the different types and how to take proper care of them: https://deepcyclebatterystore.com/how-to-maintain-batteries/  Key take away from that guide is that you MUST charge them properly and you should NEVER discharge the storage batteries below 50% of their capacity on a regular basis...
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The solar power needed for mining bitcoins depends on a few things, like how big the mining setup is, how good the mining tools are, and how sunny the place is. But here is something for you, just one machine for mining bitcoins might use anywhere from 500 watts to 1.5 kilowatts of power.
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Mining with solar can only be considered in countries with abundant sunlight like Africa. This doesn't mean that you can mine only with Solar energy because it will only serve you in the daytime bit at night it will be impossible.

Mining is 24hrs,so the best way to use solar is to use it with grid but only solar wouldn't work. Mining with Solar is very expensive because the batteries don't last due to the power these mining equipment consumes.
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solar mining is good with saving cost in the end. for first cost maybe in my country around $1600 usd/kWP for first time installation after that you no need bigger cost. The solution mining cost bigger only cause electricity. so far yeah you better using solar base mining system where it's cost per month later is cheap. better you look up to store valid for solar panel. Like trusted company. cause i have got the broken solar panel in online store shop. so better be carefull before you buy.
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I am searching about that how the mining setup will run on solar panel. If anyone from this board have their mining setup with solar panel then please share your opinion. I am planning to have one with some solar panels so I will mine for free.
I have that. Not sure about cost of electricity in your country but I have 25 machines and 1 machine brings approximately 6$ per day net
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Solar mining only make sense if you are going to use both grid and the sun, you start mining in the morning once the sun is up and in the night you turn to grid, this will make your spending on electricity become lower, this is the solution I recommend for some guys in other part of the cities in my country that claimed that the electricity bill is too high for them.

What I hated the most about using solar panel to run miners is the backup, batteries become weaker as you enjoy the journey, but alas this won't last very long, even if you have the best brand of batteries I give you the few months, 6- 8 months max, the batteries won't be strong anymore, it's like their life span will be short..

The only way to go about this is use sun only to mine and use grid to complete the 24hours cycle.
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Seeing this thread from a year ago about mining setups with solar panels is intriguing. If you've pursued this idea, I hope your venture has been successful and sustainable. Combining solar panels with mining can be a smart way to offset costs and reduce environmental impact.
Having solar energy as a back-up option for the cheap electricity? Yes, but running only on solar energy? Probably too costly and unsustainable. Think about the number of solar panels and batteries one has to buy for the farm to run day and night or during bad weather without interruptions or without the batteries getting completely drained, not forgetting the periodic maintenance and replacement costs.

To hell with the "environmental impact"

I have 280+115+45 = 440kwatts of solar

They produce about 2.2 megawatts a day. 2200kwatts

A s19 uses 80 kwatts so

2200/80 = 27 s19's can be run 24/7/365

No batteries
No batteries
No batteries

We are all grid tied.

The commercial grid acts like our battery.

So if we burn 80 kwatts an hour when sun is up and we produce 440 kwatts with solar. We back feed 440-80= 360 kwatts to the grid

once it is dark we get those kwatts back.

No mining with solar will work as none grid style ie batteries suck they break too fast and cost too much.

I only knew one solar guy all battery mining and he has access to endless recycled golf cart batteries at about 10% of normal cost.


So to repeat

 grid tied may work

batteries will not work

that is the general rule of thumb for solar mining.
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Seeing this thread from a year ago about mining setups with solar panels is intriguing. If you've pursued this idea, I hope your venture has been successful and sustainable. Combining solar panels with mining can be a smart way to offset costs and reduce environmental impact.
Having solar energy as a back-up option for the cheap electricity? Yes, but running only on solar energy? Probably too costly and unsustainable. Think about the number of solar panels and batteries one has to buy for the farm to run day and night or during bad weather without interruptions or without the batteries getting completely drained, not forgetting the periodic maintenance and replacement costs.

To hell with the "environmental impact"
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It is possible to generate electricity by harnessing the sun's light and run Bitcoin mining with that electricity, but it is not that easy to generate electricity by installing solar panels as easily as we plan to install solar panels. According to those who do Bitcoin mining, in case of high voltage electricity required for Bitcoin mining, solar panels should be installed in a place where maximum electricity production is possible. Before constructing the solar panel you must observe the place where you want to install the solar panel. By observing the number of hours of sunlight in a day, how intense the sun is, how likely it is to rain in the area, if you think that your location is the best place to install solar panels, you can take such a plan. People who have mined Bitcoin with solar power will probably give you such a suggestion.
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I am searching about that how the mining setup will run on solar panel. If anyone from this board have their mining setup with solar panel then please share your opinion. I am planning to have one with some solar panels so I will mine for free.

We know that the solar panel is recharged when there is intense sunlight, what if for example the rainy season comes and there is not much sunlight, can its recharging be carried out even if there is not much sunlight that happens to the solar panel.

Maybe the solar panel is okay to use for Bitcoin mining if you are in the UAE, but if you are in other countries it seems that it will not be an effective way to make your Bitcoin mining profitable. Because we know it needs to be running 24/7.

That’s entirely correct.

To answer @OP yes there are many players in the mining industry who are running their miners on the solar panels. The success and failure is different story since that depends on region in which they have the set up. As stated in the above quote a reference country such as UAE might have higher side of sunlight considering they are geographically positioned at correct sun sight.

For example, if someone from Germany think about this project then they would take twice the timeline of ROI as compared to a desserted place where sunshine is intense and also available most of the time.

Solar panels can provide stable electricity since they store it beforehand and thus power supply unit can smaintoan steady supply.

The only problem is “how long it will last”.

It’s not about whether you can do it or not, but it’s about Return on Investment that you need to decide. It will take more and more time if you reside in a region like Germany or UK and it will be lot less in region like let us say  Norway where you can get sunlight for as long as 76 days straight.
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I am searching about that how the mining setup will run on solar panel. If anyone from this board have their mining setup with solar panel then please share your opinion. I am planning to have one with some solar panels so I will mine for free.

We know that the solar panel is recharged when there is intense sunlight, what if for example the rainy season comes and there is not much sunlight, can its recharging be carried out even if there is not much sunlight that happens to the solar panel.

Maybe the solar panel is okay to use for Bitcoin mining if you are in the UAE, but if you are in other countries it seems that it will not be an effective way to make your Bitcoin mining profitable. Because we know it needs to be running 24/7.
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I am searching about that how the mining setup will run on solar panel. If anyone from this board have their mining setup with solar panel then please share your opinion. I am planning to have one with some solar panels so I will mine for free.
We know that for Bitcoin mining need uninterrupted electricity. Otherwise Bitcoin mining not possible. It consumes a lot of electricity. So now many people Looking for alternatives. So now solar panels could be alternative i think. But it also need high voltage power. I think in future solar panel will be more popular for Bitcoin mining.
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Thank you for your advise and I know that these will I face but want to know that if anyone have tried it with their mining rigs or not. I first want to know from the experience of other that how is it running in the time when it is sunlight and the solar panels are working. I want to know that how much is it possible.

Actually, he already answers what you need if you talking about how long the miner will run with solar panels it depends on your solar panel how much can produced and battery if how much can store.

If you want a diagram and how to calculate a mining setup with solar I suggest you check this PDF file below

- https://www.sit.ac.nz/Portals/0/upload/documents/sitjar/2021/SITJAR_-_Naveed_3.pdf

Take note this is an off-grid setup

Also check this thread to get some idea for on-grid setup https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solar-energy-bitcoin-mining-5337081
Thanks for sharing the links it helped me.
I was meant to meet a person who have personal real life experience it make us more confident as there is always a difference in the theory and practical work in any field.
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Thank you for your advise and I know that these will I face but want to know that if anyone have tried it with their mining rigs or not. I first want to know from the experience of other that how is it running in the time when it is sunlight and the solar panels are working. I want to know that how much is it possible.

Actually, he already answers what you need if you talking about how long the miner will run with solar panels it depends on your solar panel how much can produced and battery if how much can store.

If you want a diagram and how to calculate a mining setup with solar I suggest you check this PDF file below

- https://www.sit.ac.nz/Portals/0/upload/documents/sitjar/2021/SITJAR_-_Naveed_3.pdf

Take note this is an off-grid setup

Also check this thread to get some idea for on-grid setup https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solar-energy-bitcoin-mining-5337081
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Mining requires 24/7 power availability to be profitable.
Just solar panels don't provide that. You need either energy storage to accompany that or take from grid at times your panels don't supply power.
Building electricity storage solution at present is very costly and will not be profitable for you.
Relying on grid and using 100% supplied by panels when they produce is your best option right now.
Thank you for your advise and I know that these will I face but want to know that if anyone have tried it with their mining rigs or not. I first want to know from the experience of other that how is it running in the time when it is sunlight and the solar panels are working. I want to know that how much is it possible.
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Mining requires 24/7 power availability to be profitable.
Just solar panels don't provide that. You need either energy storage to accompany that or take from grid at times your panels don't supply power.
Building electricity storage solution at present is very costly and will not be profitable for you.
Relying on grid and using 100% supplied by panels when they produce is your best option right now.
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